Except when Jimmy Butler averaged 37 ppg on 60% FG on his head last playoffs lol.

@@NothingElseMattersJM😂 Real Talk

@@NothingElseMattersJMhe couldnt do the same on the nuggets who were a far worse defensive team?

@@woo_shynen8805 He was too passive and didn’t trust his jumper against the Nuggets.

Maxey was cooking him

While it is impressive, to be fair, it's not difficult to frustrate KAT (I'm a wolves fan, lol).

Yeah, He seems pissed alot.

KAT gets locked up by undersized players in the post all time

Yeah kat is a big softie

With wemby this year… i think he is the favorite

Stop it ….

@@CSDonohue11is not that bad of a take honestly

@@atlast7928 don’t let 1 video get you all out of wack

He should have won it at least 3 times imma be honest. Almost every player in the NBA knows Jrue is the best.

I'm a wolves fan, this made me laugh way too hard xD

😂😂

I still miss having him in NOLA

Dame is a loser lol

I don't think anyone expected it to be this bad. I was defending the trade lol. Not anymore 😂 But it's fixable. Need to bring in some perimeter defense by Feb and you will be in a better spot for sure.

@@Masoch1st 💯

@@Masoch1stI think the issue is compounded by the coach trying to give the bucks a new defensive identity. A lot changed fast for bucks. Jrue, Giannis, and Brook would often cover for any defensive lapses on the floor with just pure talent, instinct, and athleticism. The coach is changing defensive schemes in hopes of better results but it’s just no clicking at this point in time, especially with Dame replacing Jrue.

Fr, but idk what is changing for Boston. Last year Smart, Horford, and Grant were the primary defenders on Embiid. Now it’s Holiday and Horford. Not much changed, just Holiday is a better version of Smart.

Caruso? 😂 knock it off

Bucks never underestimated the defensive impact of Jrue, but they understood that having a guard like Jrue run the offense was not going to result in another chip.

​@@devinchinchilla7804it's a personnel issue for the Bucks. The Celtics have so much skill on and off the ball that they don't need an elite playmaker. He hustles just as hard as Smart, but he doesn't take a bunch of crunchtime shots.

What are these high peaks? Sixers beat the celtics but lost to the bucks chief. 😂

​@@devinchinchilla7804Jrue literally won yall that chip. Overrated Giannis has been bounced in the 2nd round or earlier his entire career then Jrue came in and won yall a ring in his first year

@@jdrmanmusiqking Bucks with Giannis, Khris, Jrue and Brook would have won multiple Chips. Jrue wasn't the reason we didn't win them it was Khris that held us back due to injury. Problem is Khris is still hurt and Bucks with no offensive firepower outside of Giannis gets beat vs good teams in the playoffs. We've been a defensive juggernaut for half a decade and just having elite defense isn't enough to win Chips. When Dame is playing Bucks are still an incredible team but I'm afraid our new Coach will be fired in next ten games unless he figures unless he can right the ship quick fast and in a hurry.

He’s no now. Look at the hole he left in Milwaukee.

Yeah agreed I miss time lord though but kp has been great and we want to win now.

I've noticed this too. The refs basically turn a blind eye to hanchecking if the defender is smaller than the ball handler. This has been the case for YEARS yet people think the game is just immune to defense against big players.

Ngl yeah they concept even falls on larger players who aren't big men like LeBron for instance

The Bucks had to make that trade. Jrue wasn't a good offensive player during his Bucks tenure. During the regular season he was great, but as soon as the playoffs began, his offense fell off a cliff. Just look at the numbers. They were really bad. We also have to wait and see with the Bucks. They played an offensive and defensive scheme for half a decade and now have to adapt to a new system. Whereas Boston situation is basically plug and play because there offensive core remained largely the same. Jrue basically took Smart's role while Porzingis has a similar role that Horford had.

incorrect! lol - on a couple things at least. the bucks have had a prob guarding elite wings since pj tucker left. also boston wasnt too small. last time they matched up, grant al and smart held giannis 10% below his shooting averages even tho the counting numbers looked great (and that was w/o a healthy rob roaming in help - which was what made their defense so good that yr).

@@NeoctixSpot On. Losing one of the best guard defenders in the league will obviously hurt but Jrue was being forced to play out of his element come playoff time, & try to be a 2nd Option Offensively. Now in Boston he’s a 4th Option so he can focus on Defense & Playmaking more

u been smoking something..... everyone agrees Boston was to small (way to small) but you, and tucker aint got nothing on Holiday, and U must really have problems because Smart didn't hold anyone to anything because he was getting humiliated every time down the court guarding big men and gettign smashed... Giannis can;t dribble witch is the saddest thing and he should have been able to lock him down, but the rest of them did do okay.... Do urself a favor and don't call someone wrong when you have no clue... or u do but you like to lie to yourself...

What happened in the Playoffs is Porter jumped Holiday (middleton started having injury problems) so JD had some bad stretches on offense, but he is a real good offensive player, and i do feel like he was having a hard time adjusting. but Porter came out of nowhere to become a strong contributor because when I saw him the first time I was like "WHO IS THIS BROTHER". If Middleton could have stayed healthy and if the whole team could get to less touches to be in rythem this team would have been fun to watch.

I think that is the big difference with his role for the Celtics this year. Jrue at times with the Bucks had to play 2nd option along with being the defensive anchor when injuries leave out Middleton. Bucks don't have anyone great to really step up from the depth charts. If the Celtics stay healthy, Jrue can spend more of his energy being a swiss-army stopper along with doing little things while the Jays attack the basket on offense and KP is the perimeter catch and shoot threat.

They should've traded away Middleton and kept Jrue

@@thenorthremembers728honestly I was against this cause I was SUCH a Middleton fan in 2021 & 2022, but I’ve faced reality. The dude is straight up washed. But the thing is Jrue has immensely more value than Khris when it comes to trades so that makes me question if Portland takes that deal, they got Jrue because they knew they could flip him due to his abilities for a contender

You have the freak to thank for that.

Yeah even if it works out In Milwaukee, how do you trade a guy who was loyal and you already won with

@@MrCcsboy yeah as a fan I’m totally disappointed in the organization and Giannis.

If it was a shooting big I think KP would still play help/run him at the perimeter either way. The key thing is that many of the face up bigs just can't punish a strong smaller defender like Smart/Holiday catching the ball from the perimeter. And KP is always hanging at dunker spot which is a good preferred position for him. Even with Embiid and his lackluster ability to split double teams coming to him, who else is he going to pass out to punish the Celtics for putting Jrue on him like that?

100%! also certain guys are physical mismatches for kp in the post so it makes more sense to have him bother big centers in help rather than strait up 1v1 - if they can* (to your/jason's point)

cant wait to see what they do against denver. its going to be chess

I love Jason lol

@@taylor7264 yeah I cant wait to see that Denver vs Boston matchup. I imagine Boston will go with KP and Horford in the starting lineup and put KP on Aaron Gordon so he cant help off of him. I think Jrue will honestly guard KCP or MPJ because Jrue is elite at navigating screens. Their first game against each other is in January so Jamal Murray should be healthy by then. That matchup could very likely be a finals preview.

@@taylor7264 It will somewhat be an extension of how they already play bigs. But many C's forwards and even Jrue will play a rotation of reps against Jokic at the perimeter. If Celtics can get KP to stay by the rim and not have to move and not compromise the defensive spacing, it will be a big win for them.

Nah people don't want real breakdowns and discussions. Not the masses anyway. Now if the NBA played 40 games only 3-4 nights per week and cleaned up all the foul drawing on both sides and the stars played every night then maybe they could catch the NFL

If the NBA YT channel can clean up their frickin playlist of game highlights so its not a mess to catch up, that would be a start among other poor things the NBA has for media. In comparison to what the NFL YT channel has done with organizing videos and what not, its no reason why they are light years ahead of the NBA in organizing and showcasing media. NFL being more popular is because they are more efficient with what they do for the schedule/competition in 5 months (and another 3-4 months of offseason coverage via draft, FA) than the NBA does with 6-7 months where nobody cares about games until after Christmas.

Did you not see the video when Jrue Holiday guarded him he only scored 2 points, which was the drop step, he accounted for 2 points out of his 27

@@Sizzle-uj6xl I watched the game.

@@iri101 and so did I? When Jrue Guarded Joel he scored 2 points on him, fouls, switches and other factors have to be accounted into the 27 on 50% however when Holiday Guarded him it forced Joel to be a passer in some possessions and caused missed in other, if he scores in Tatum or anyone else is that Jrue’s fault?

@@Sizzle-uj6xl Jimmy Butler 👀

The difference is Pat Bev was crying in the post game interview, where as Jrue actually won his match up.

He has not like this tho

He can't. No one can...

Yeah that probably wouldn't work, because Jokic is not trying to put dribble moves on anyone, he would just "bulk" him in the paint.

@@richatlarge462 he’s too smart and tall to double I’d love to see it tho for one possession at least

pump the breaks. The title is click baity but Jokic is beyond an all-star center. Dude is a LEGIT unicorn and even the Sixers/Lakers had to throw a bunch of strong bigs and wings at him on rotation to try make him pick his poison with the ball at the perimeter. So they can leave their big shot blocker closer to the basket to contest.

yeah but nothing works well against Jokic

@@Sotanath86q Facts. But there's other bigs not on his level but still have size and passing skill or the opposite end that have a lot of bounce that this will probably also fail against. Towns and Embiid are just the extremes of scoring bigs with lower passer vision that use strength over high flying that made them the perfect players to try this tactic against.

same time bigs are getting worse posting up. chicken or the egg?

@@taylor7264they are??

@@yuhhtempo come on mane. I’m just saying we have to paint the full picture

@@taylor7264 They might be getting worse generally, but like this video conveyed the ways in which smaller defenders are able to gain offensive fouls for routine post moves, make guys in the past who could bully (like Shaq/Ewing/etc.) not effective. This makes posting without fouling much harder against weaker defenders tougher for post ups today. For bigs who are skilled in the post AND can pass, (Jokic, Sabonis, Sengun and Duncan in the past) this just means they'll continue to feast.

@@simonribeiro7630 i disagree. guys like shaq would be more effective scoring in the post today than when they played. mainly bc there are less centers that are strong enough to bang w him. shaq made great passes out of doubles too but that has no bearing on whether or not he can post a mismatch 1v1 w/o getting called for an offensive foul. sure guys have become smarter/more crafty drawing fouls, but the game has evolved in a way that makes it easier for smaller defenders. shaq used to catch the ball w great inside position where he could just drop step and go up with tha ball - n if the defender was in the restricted area they couldn't draw charges. its totally diff today. look at the film they showed of modern bigs... it was siakam driving a close out and kat taking ppl off the dribble lol. ofc its easier for little guys to draw charges when bigs are trying to space n put the ball on the floor. even jokic (prob the best modern post up player) doesnt post in the paint often. he's running offense at the high post or they'll clear a side so he can iso 15-20ft from the basket. it works for him bc he can turn over his shoulder and hit shots from out there consistently and he has a decent handle. im a cs fan and ive loved jrue for yrs but theres no way in hell jrue holiday could guard shaq in the post😂 idc what era it is!

They are both on par defensively, Smart can do anything Jrue can

This is true because of Jokic's ability to pass and the Nuggets having elite cutters like Gordon. This strategy really works against bigs who can't pass out of doubles well.

Smart isn't really a guard though. Yes, Jrue is better -- slightly -- at all the traditional guard defense things like on ball defense, screen navigation and chasing. In a one-on-one matchup he is the best defensive guard. But the game is five-on-five Marcus is significantly better off ball and as a traffic cop and it's just more mathematically valuable to prevent layups than to decrease jumpshot efficiency. (Which Marcus also does; go look up Steph's shooting numbers against him.) But Marcus is a big who is 6'3" more than a guard. He plays like Draymond and KG. Sniffing out threats and deterring drives and filling in cracks in real time because he's reading the game so fast.

Anyone who watched basketball in the past decade knew Jrue was an elite defender. He's been getting All-Defense votes for 12 years and has been considered one of the best defensive guards in the league the last 5.

just crazy shot making really, not much u can do when players are hitting crazy step backs

HOW THE HELL DID JIMMY FORGOT TO PLAY BBALL AGAINST THE NUGGETS AND ALMOST GOT SWEPT?!

Because Jimmy is basically a taller version of Jrue in term of body type (Strong lower body), core strenght and body control, and unlike bigs like KAT or Embiid, Jimmy is just as fast as Jrue, maybe even faster, so Jrue can’t beat him with his speed, and can’t beat him with his strenght in the post because Jimmy is 6’7 not 7ft so his center of gravity is lower … It’s the same with Lebron, i’ve seen Lebron bullying Jrue many times, and that’s because he has the perfect combination of size, athleticism, body control and of course skills. Jrue can lock down or slow down slow big men with poor handles like KAT, AD or Porzingis, or small guys without an elite off ball game like Dame, Kyrie or Trae Young, but he will struggle against big strong/athletic/skilled wings like Jimmy, Lebron, Doncic, KD, Giannis, Kawhi, PG or Zion, or against super athletic and skilled guards like ANT, SGA, Spida or Ja, or against elite shooters and off ball players like Curry ..

@@Anthonydu01630actual analysis 🥹. Bravo my man

Cause he’s him

Impede Embiid LMAO

There's a lot left out of context in this game. So to be fair, I felt Embiid rushed a couple of these possessions because of the uniqueness of the look. That's not happening again. For example, the drop-step hook is absolutely the shot we wanted. The touch wasn't there and it missed. But what they don't talk about is how unconventional this front is and what it opens up: The 3-ball. We were like 3(or 4)-for everything from 3. If that doesn't happen again, both Maxey/Embiid are capable of hitting the cross pass to 'shooters'(I want my 76ers to go out and acquire some shooters because right now, the aforementioned big-2 basically carry 50% of our 3pt shooting.). The look annoyed Joel/76ers, but it did not impede our offense. If/when we see it again, it won't be nearly as 'effective'. Gimmicks like that only work the first time you see them.

Even when KP was with the Mavs there is film where he was trying to back down Smart in mid range. And he couldn't move Smart back at all. He had to settle for his janky fade away jumpers with no real balance to it and the shots clanked at the rim.

No he hasn’t

Yeah wait until the playoffs when he can’t hit a shot and gets abused all night long by jimmy butler

Lol jrue is absolutely useless in the playoffs. Enjoy the reg season tho

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@ballinboxer3676 have fun w 0 D dame :) i’ll take jrue as our 5th option

@@tannerholt3426 That's funny cause Jrue is also absolutely useless on defense in the playoffs lmao but again, enjoy the reg season

@@ballinboxer3676typical bucks fan don’t even appreciate what he did for yall lol poverty franchise

There isn’t a single one of those plays where there isn’t a double team or help defense. Nice try though lol.

If they win and the bucks lose again in the 1st rd the memes and karma will be glorious

@@neospiderman2165I’m hoping

Best timeline for C’s fans

The Celtics have been the 1 or 2 best team in the league for about 5 years. The fact they haven’t closed the deal is amazing. But now the team is just ridiculous. I cannot imagine anyone beating them. The Holiday pickup was just defensive icing on the cake.

​@@aguyfromnothere slow down man, there are still nuggets out there, who are hard to beat in 4 games

Bucks fans don't seem to remember reps where Smart also frustrated Giannis for stretches defending him inside.

Bucks valued Jrue. But they valued him a little too much after 2021. He ended up being the 2nd/3rd option on offense while still being the perimeter anchor. I feel it put too much on him especially when Middleton wasn't playing up to level in the playoffs. With the Celtics he can be more unleashed on defense because the Jays and KP are more of the options on offense.

OG, the real captain of the Leg Team, should win it. It isn't a scheme to have OG guard anybody, because he doesn't really give anything up, regardless of position.

Ben said it best in his Chet Holmgren video. There are 'unicorn bigs' in the league who are just parading as tall 3&D players. So it makes sense to treat them as such when they get the ball at the perimeter and especially if you have a strong guard who can play defense against them.

They just double him and make him turn the ball over.

@@shorewall they gotta clear a side It’s not that hard his teammates gotta be ready to shoot