ThinkPad P16 Gen 1 REVIEW

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Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 1 Mobile Workstation: lenovo.vzew.net/zaA4zr
Specs:
12th Generation Intel® Core™ i9-12950HX Processor with vPro® (E-Core Max 3.60 GHz, P-Core Max 5.00 GHz with Turbo Boost, 16 Cores, 24 Threads, 30 MB Cache)
Display:
16.0″ WQUXGA (3840 x 2400) OLED, touchscreen, 400 nits, antireflective / antismudge, 100% DCI-P3 color gamut, low blue light, DisplayHDR™ 500 True Black, Dolby Vision® HDR, X-Rite® Pantone® Factory Display Calibration
Memory
Up to 128GB DDR5 4800MHz (4800MHz native, 4000MHz actual)
Battery
94Whr
Supports Rapid Charge (charges up to 80% in 1hr)
Storage
Up to 8 TB PCIe SSD Gen 4 Performance (2 x 4 TB)
Graphics
Optional: Integrated Intel® UHD Graphics
Optional: NVIDIA® RTX™ A5500 (16GB VRAM)
Optional: NVIDIA® RTX™ A4500 (16GB VRAM)
Optional: NVIDIA® RTX™ A3000 (12GB VRAM)
Optional: NVIDIA® RTX™ A2000 (8GB VRAM)
Optional: NVIDIA® RTX™ A1000 (4GB VRAM)
Optional: Intel® Arc™ PRO A30M (4GB VRAM)
Security
Discrete Trusted Platform Module (dTPM) 2.0
Self-healing BIOS
Webcam privacy shutter
Kensington NanoSaver™ lock slot
Match-on-chip touch fingerprint reader
Optional: FHD Hybrid IR camera for facial recognition
Audio
2 x user-facing speakers with Dolby Atmos®
2 x far-field mics
Dolby Voice®
Camera
1080p FHD with privacy shutter
1080p FHD & IR with privacy shutter
Dimensions (H x W x D)
30.23mm x 364mm x 266mm / 1.2″ x 14.3″ x 10.5″
Weight
Starting at 2.95kg / 6.5lbs
Color
Storm Grey
Connectivity
Intel® WiFi 6E* AX211 802.11AX (2 x 2)
Bluetooth® 5.1 or above
vPro®: Only On vPro® processors
Optional: WWAN** FIBOCOM L860-GL 4G LTE CAT16 with eSIM
Optional: Near Field Communication (NFC)
* 6GHz WiFi 6E operation is dependent on the support of the operating system, routers/APs/gateways that support WiFi 6E, along with the regional regulatory certifications and spectrum allocation.
** Optional WWAN availability varies by region and must be configured at time of purchase; it requires a network service provider.
Ports/Slots
2 x Thunderbolt™ 4 / USB4™ 40Gbps / USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (supports data transfer, Power Delivery 3.0, and DisplayPort™ 1.4)
USB-C 3.2 Gen 2
2 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 (1 x always on)
HDMI 2.1*
SD Express 7.0 card reader
Headphone / mic combo
Optional: Smart card reader
Optional: Sim card slot
*Up to 8K/60Hz with available NVIDIA® discrete graphics or up to 4K/60Hz with available Intel® integrated/discrete graphics.
USB port transfer speeds are approximate and depend on many factors, such as processing capability of host/peripheral devices, file attributes, system configuration and operating environments; actual speeds will vary and may be less than expected.
Keyboard
Backlit
Numeric keypad
Spill-resistant
ISV Certifications
3DEXPERIENCE®
ANSYS®
ArcGIS®
Creo®
MicroStation®
NX®
Solid Edge®
SOLIDWORKS®
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Green Certifications
EPEAT® Gold
ENERGY STAR®
TCO Certified 9.0
RoHS compliant
Preloaded Software
Lenovo Commercial Vantage
Microsoft Office 365 (Trial)
McAfee LiveSafe™ (Trial)
What's in the box
ThinkPad P16 (16″ Intel) mobile workstation
170W or 230W AC adapter
Internal battery
Quick Start Guide
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Video Index:
00:00 Intro
01:36 Specs & Pricing
02:32 Unboxing, Build & Size
04:11 Hinges, Keyboard, TrackPad & TrackPoint
04:32 Ports & Connections
05:22 Internals & User Upgradeability
06:35 Display
08:08 Webcam, Internal Mics & Fingerprint Scanner
08:50 Performance, Benchmarks & Gaming
09:32 Competition
10:31 Thermals & Fan Noise
11:02 Battery & Charging
11:34 Audio
11:58 Pros & Cons
13:58 The Score
14:20 Final Thoughts
27:59 SSD Test
33:52 Webcam
37:41 SSD & RAM upgradeability
44:33 Cinebench R15
49:52 Cinebench R20
01:07:40 Thermals
01:09:32 Cinebench R23
01:17:12 Bonus: ThinkBook Plus Gen 3

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@youp1tralala Жыл бұрын

Nice review of this unit. Liking the updated presentation style. Key travel has gone from 1.8mm (P15/P17 gen 2) to 1.5mm as Lenovo is standardizing most of the Thinkpad line on it. Still enjoying my P72 from 2018 and still a beast for what I do. Glad to see 16:10 finally making an appearance in the P line but a bit sad there is no more 17' Thinkpad

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@manino12345 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmarcdavid I am about to get this laptop from my company, can you kindly advise if it can do 4K 120Hz to an external screen via HDMI please. This is an important spec for me as my own personal computer can I want the laptop to be able to keep up to what I am used to.

@maxehrlich Жыл бұрын

Good review, I didn't hear mention of the 3 buttons for the touchpad which is essential for me for doing 3d work on a train without a mouse. I love that it has a num pad too!

@ccgodoi Жыл бұрын

Great video and review, it helped us a lot! Thanks a lot and greetings from Brazil !

@reedwhit Жыл бұрын

Great review!! Thx....I just received a P16 gen 1 vPRO i7 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD, NVIDIA RTX A2000 8GB GPU and mine came with a usb-c RJ45 adapter in the box!! I usually leave this in the office and sometimes travel with it. So the bulk does not bother me. This is a corporate replacement for a 4 year old P52 i7 64GB RAM top end display and graphics...kind of heavy at 8lbs... which has been on life support for a while with a fan/heat issue. I'm just now setting up the new computer with software (GIS and CADD systems and database / ETL development... data heavy stuff) Thx again for the review, seems this replacement will not disappoint... same lighted keyboard layout and will run faster, quieter, cooler. I will chime in if I have any major snags.

@williamcohen3351 Жыл бұрын

Nice PC. Camera and mics are good. Keyboard layout is good. Nice numpad. Even though the key travel might be a little shallow once you use it for a short while you will get used to it and not even notice it. Definitely a powerhouse unit. Great review.

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Thanks William!

@BensStuff Жыл бұрын

I have 21D6004YUS and I love it. The thing is a beast and I've tossed everything at it and no issues. Plays any game on ultra no issues maybe cyberpunk .. 4k gaming no one can. I love the non black you barely see any finger prints.

@jgrant3353 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review Andrew. I have had two of these and both had back light flicker and track pad issues. For me, the back light flicker was easily visible when I set the background to medium grey and cranked up the intensity. I'd be curious to know your method. As far as the track pad, the top right corner of the track pad had almost as much travel as the bottom right corner. There were also times when the track pad wouldn't respond to a tap - I had to move my finger to a different location on the track pad to get a response. I still like the design of the machine, but I'm a bit nervous about trying another.

@meistercad Жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you so much for your work.

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Thanks really appreciate it!

@stevelarano Жыл бұрын

Great review!!!

@derikdang8829 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Andrew - very insightful! By the way, is there much difference between P16 vs P1 Gen 5 or 6?

@noahshaju2401 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Quick question…how would you rank this laptop to your previously reviewed ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5?

@Isydia Жыл бұрын

Excellent review

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@gallopingnuns6732 Жыл бұрын

Great review, as always. Andrew, I really enjoy your content. With apologies for the tangent question, did you happen to see a new version of the X1 Extreme during your CES travels?

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Not yet!

@azku 10 ай бұрын

Very good video. Do u have any other alternative suggestion for medical imaging?

@TheMors1975 Жыл бұрын

almost 2 thousand dollars and they didn't even think to include it what are they thinking missing that RJ45 port in 2023- what are they thinking ?...

@stanleynyarkoaboagye4232 Жыл бұрын

Bought a low spec model of this 2 months ago. Planning to gradually upgrade once in a while. Hasn't disappointed thus far. Only down side is that it's short of enough ports for the size and very uncomfortable on the lap as it's got thick rubber feet pads at the bottom for ventilation. The weight definitely makes it too tough on the lap. Who am I to judge, it's meant to be a deskbased PC.

@dr.strange6458 8 ай бұрын

is the G2 newer or is it the G1? which one was released last

@halfstream1461 Жыл бұрын

Great review and very informational! Saw the live unboxing and this laptop is personally underwhelming giving the key travel on a desktop replacement. I Hate having to give up the 17 inch screen just to get 16:10. Might wait until the camm ram is available on this before ask work for one.

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@vitezslavstembera854 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how good are cooling capabilities of this model when compared to the previous P15. P15 has air holes also on sides, which definitely helped.

@kienmac518 10 ай бұрын

I bought this for work to run 3D and MS Oculus. I had Power issues when I was travelling. The Laptop didn't go back to Power Supply Charge after switching to Battery with an error on bootup. Then I did a whole bunch of Lenovo Updates but still failed. The fix was to do a COMPLETE DISCHARGE, by removing the whole PC back panel. A BIG -ve on Battery power options. Not sure if is persistent but read online a lot of people with similar issues.

@aryankhan1985 Жыл бұрын

Wait for you to review the razor blade 16 with mini led display and Alienware x16.

@rafaelperez9652 Жыл бұрын

This is an Excellent PC from Lenovo in my opinion with 645 nits of brightness as per Andrew's measurements, nice webcam and mic qualities as well. A nice port selection and good battery life rounds up the ThinkPad P16 Gen 1. Noticeably missing is that RJ45 port which may be a turn-off to some. Excellent review once again Andrew!! 👍😁

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rafael!

@umarchikobava7212 Жыл бұрын

The weird thing is - T16/P16s, which are thinner and lighter, have RJ45. Thank you, Andrew, keep up the good work! Looking forward for your review of T16.

@deanthompson4381 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Andrew, for this excellent review. I will agree with Michael about the updated graphics and presentation style, the color went well with the red piping on the laptop. This is an excellent laptop, for professionals. Very few negatives, companies will not bat an eye about the price. I respect Lenovo for their innovations in laptops. My Yoga9i just gave up the ghost, way too early, didn't hit the laptop jackpot. Thanks for this. A question, will you be covering the Samsung Unpacked Event this Wednesday, 2/1, on the mobile channel? Take Care.

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes I will be at the Samsung Unpacked event

@deanthompson4381 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmarcdavid Excellent! Looking forward to your views.

@drishalballaney6590 Жыл бұрын

Can you please also do a proper full review of the thinkpad x1 carbon gen 11? and maybe if possible thinkpad T14 gen 3 (or 4 maybe if it comes out ) Would also love to check if Linux if it works

@sanket.sharma Жыл бұрын

I ordered the top end of this machine and unfortunately had to return it after two weeks. The machine itself along with the monstrous power adapter is just too heavy to carry around. Despite being Linux certified, the support was wonky and had to spend many hours to get some some hardware to work. Also had trouble with my dual Lenovo Gen32 QC 10 setup - Windows 11 randomly switched one off. The fans are noisy under high load and the claimed ±7 hours of battery life doesn't really last that long. On my normal workloads (Running 1-2 VMs for dev work), the battery lasted about 2 hours. After a few tweaks, I was able to get 4-5 hours. Went back to a 2019 Macbook Pro with an eGPU.

@abhishekomprakash4074 Жыл бұрын

Very nice review. How does "ThinkPad P1 Gen 5" stand w.r.t. "ThinkPad P16 Gen 1"

@SuleBandi Жыл бұрын

Hi there, is there a P16 Gen 2 on the way? Any information about a 2023 replacement/update?

@lilypond5793 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for highlighting the diminished key travel. I don't understand why Lenovo is moving away from excellence in keyboard experience. It should be a spec that they highlight, but instead they don't even mention it :(

@DelgenitoEsmildo Жыл бұрын

Nice work sir.

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@AS-bm5xv Жыл бұрын

Do you think I'd be able to take the red piping out and repaint it?

@TaiLe-dr5ve Жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew, I have just bought thinkpad P16 gen 1, do you feel the touchpad sometimes lag, slow response? I had reinstalled touchpad driver but still have problem. Thanks!

@acidforblood Жыл бұрын

Whats the idle temperature when this laptop is under low-medium load (not stress test)? Ex: A few applications open like Visual Studio, a movie in VLC in the background and some browser tabs open in Chrome. The resolution I'm getting will be 1080p with an i9 12900HX. Its supposedly just a beefy base model that was on sale recently. I know its subjective but curious.

@ForgoMangi Жыл бұрын

Out of all the ports lenovo could have remove they decided to be the ethernet, as an IT user, this workstation dissapoints me

@Tgspartnership Жыл бұрын

It would be more useful than that HDMI

@danielsiapin Жыл бұрын

What's the problem with using USB to Ethernet adapter?

@MZ_98 Жыл бұрын

@@danielsiapin Perhaps the need for an adapter

@vinodbehara4912 Жыл бұрын

This is not for IT student ....it is for.... heavy civil and mechanical designing purpose.....like autocad , revit , solidworks , creo.....

@PsycosisIncarnated Жыл бұрын

@@danielsiapin🤡

@reasonmath Жыл бұрын

I think i like the p17 maxed out myself hopefully they make a gen 3 of that model... I like the rugged quality it brings...also for ddr5 i want 512gb of memory to 1tb no Xeon??

@pssthpok Жыл бұрын

My first impressions: Fast, nice big screen, looks to be a capable machine. Personally I don't like an offset keyboard, I'd prefer no number pad and a keyboard aligned horizontally centered with the display. The keyboard travel is (like every other lappy I see these days) too shallow for my tastes. Fortunately I will only need to occasionally use the keyboard. The real surprise for me is that it advertises 3 usb-c ports supporting power delivery, but it does not charge over usb-c. It wants 170/230W, so it won't even try to charge via usb-c. According to Lenovo forums, it does support "power delivery for charging external devices only". So it's a usb-c hub for power delivery. Cynical me thinks this feature may have been added solely to claim usb-c power delivery on the spec sheet. Don't lose that power brick!

@leplane_ Жыл бұрын

Great comment! I'm typing this on a comfy W530 keyboard and it's a pleasure to type on it. I hear older Thinkpads were even better. Shame Lenovo went with this type of super thin chiclet keyboard, totally ignoring the requests of their users. It looks thinner than that of the the P1. But I'm glad they still offer a trackpoint option, which many of us still use. I do CAD and setup Max scenes with the trackpoint while flying or traveling etc, something you can't comfortably do with trackpads.

@Clm4655 Жыл бұрын

How is the P16 in comparision with HP ZBook vor graphical stuff (photo, webdesign) aside the fact that HP has RJ45 🙂

@summushieremiasclarkson4700 Жыл бұрын

Lack of inbuilt ethernet, at least 1gig kills its viability as a mobile workstation. Baffling oversight from Lenovo, for an otherwise decent looking chassis. It's not like it doesn't have the space for it. Anyway, great review.

@debrarealty Жыл бұрын

I just purchased this and it comes with a stylus pen but I can't figure out how to use it. Also there's no place to dock it so how would it charge? Thanks

@defunct__ Жыл бұрын

For a second I read it as a PIG Gen 1 😂. Joking aside thanks for a great review!

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

lol, now that I look at it yes it does look like PIG lol

@TaiLe-dr5ve Жыл бұрын

Hi, Do you know how to log in Advanced BIOS for thinkpad P workstation series? My laptop is Thinkpad P16 gen 1.

@andreyeliseyev Жыл бұрын

Is DDR5 RAM work on 4000Mhz only in 128Gb configuration? Is 64Gb config works on full 4800Mhz speed? Is 128Gb config is 32x4 or 64x2 sticks? Thank you.

@alishihade4751 9 ай бұрын

I bought a thinkpad p16 (core i9 12gen ,128gb ram ,rtx A5500, 2 TB ssd ). IT have only one problem which is cpu over heating so do you have a solution or I have to change it with another modle

@LinDahai88 Жыл бұрын

Would be nice to compare it with P1 gen 5... Especially it's dimensions, performance and battery life

@divyangvaidya9675 Жыл бұрын

Using a PC for Vivaldo for Verilog. This laptop can compete with the XPS series from Dell.

@dennisstello5227 Жыл бұрын

I have owned this laptop as my daily since autodesk university this past year. It’s a bit heavy but I didn’t expect a lightweight for this class of workstation. I have the hx class processor, 64g ddr5, 2 tb ssd, and the a4000 gpu My biggest complaint is that the cpu will not boost to anywhere near the levels I expect. My primary software used is autodesk inventor and autocad electrical and it really does feel comparable to my desktop 12900ks w/ 3080 but there are times I would like to have the extra cpu clock speed. I have looked at other laptops with this processor and 3080 class processors and they have a significantly higher output power supply. Possibly choked back?

@frankjgornickjr3676 8 ай бұрын

6 lb is great I've had flimsy laptops in the past and they fell apart one single light drop.

@schumy1975 Жыл бұрын

us$4650....i thought I heard it wrong the first time around so went back to listen to you again to double check...

@ohmyv3gatron Жыл бұрын

I really want to see one of these sitting next to the p17....

@jmcoelho7 9 ай бұрын

I like how they have retained some of the IBM legacy in these workhorse machines. I am NOT a fan of their proprietary power connector, had one on the original X1 carbon and i hated it

@papagen00 Жыл бұрын

4:21 shallow 1.5mm key travel on all new ThinkPads, except the T-series which has 1.8mm (but 16:9 screen, C'mon Lenovo!!!)

@user-up9mv1je1y 6 ай бұрын

AMD version?

@razvanrugescu Жыл бұрын

The new P16 is nothing like the P15 and P17 series we're used to. This doesn't look like ThinkPad. This looks like a gaming laptop. It's also less practical for a workstation: less performance, fewer ports... I bought the P17 Gen 2 and it's been my last chance for a proper ThinkPad workstation. Sure it doesn't have an integrated optical drive like the older models, but at least it has 1x ethernet port and 2x USB drives. I would've loved one more, but compared to this new P16 disappointment, it's a charm! There's no reason to buy a ThinkPad anymore, you might as well get a MacBook Pro...

@CM-yr6vw Жыл бұрын

Less performance? I have this same laptop 12950HX and run a 23,100 on R23 and all I did was repaste with TPM7950 (pad not paste). Even without a repaste a P16 with a 12950HX will absolutley destroy any P17. ANyone buying a P17 or P15 over a P16 with a 12950HX is a fucking lunatic. Nevermind pairing this laptop with a IETS GT500 cooler, which I also utilize when pushing it.

@razvanrugescu Жыл бұрын

@@CM-yr6vw The 2.60 Xeon W-11955M on my P17 surpasses the 3.60 i9 12900H on the P16 on every heavyload task you can name

@CM-yr6vw Жыл бұрын

@@razvanrugescu Glad to hear your 11955 does everything you need it to, and to your expectations. However, there is no factual foundation to be had in an argument on whether or not the 11955 surpasses the 12950HX. Completely different beast as you are comparing a CPU that hits a ceiling of ~12900 on R23 to a CPU that hits a ceiling of ~23K on R23. That is literally a 78.3% difference in scores. Nevermind DDR5 RAM capability.

@TheRealDraa 6 ай бұрын

the thinkpad gaming laptop.

@manishnaik6574 Жыл бұрын

I dont understand, if the bottom is at 51 Degrees and the surface is around 46 degrees, how can you say its good thermals ? You can barely keep your hands on the keyboard to work. Just asking if I am missing something.

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Typing on it was not issue for me.

@usefulknowledge6074 Жыл бұрын

I've been wanting to own a ThinkPad ever since I can remember. It require a man to rob a bank to own one. Thanks for your review though.

@iptych Жыл бұрын

Go 2nd hand. I’m running an old T480 and it’s perfect.

@usefulknowledge6074 Жыл бұрын

@@iptychThanks, but still very expensive where I live.

@davejohnson2134 Жыл бұрын

What were they thinking not including an ethernet port? All business-oriented laptops need that port.

@reubs91 Жыл бұрын

Not really. Most are wifi connected with vpn.

@davejohnson2134 Жыл бұрын

@@reubs91 I didn't mean to imply that all users need that port, just it needs to be there as an option.

@reubs91 Жыл бұрын

@@davejohnson2134 yeah most also connect to a dock which has all that as well.

@andregenter4213 3 ай бұрын

3 kilograms and no network port? wth?

@crazyelf1 Жыл бұрын

Yeah not having an Ethernet port is a big loss. I wonder how hot the A5500 GPU and top Tier CPU gets.

@95TBake Жыл бұрын

It rips I own one with a5500 it's amazing

@crazyelf1 Жыл бұрын

That's good to hear. At least Lenovo has included adequate cooling.

@papagen00 Жыл бұрын

Why is P16 so much heavier than T16 ? they have similar form and specs.

@popokatapetl6995 Жыл бұрын

U sure about it, I thought they are same weight

@papagen00 Жыл бұрын

@@popokatapetl6995T16 3.62 lbs, P16 6.5 lbs according to the specs sheet

@BLITSFRAPPS Жыл бұрын

better than dell as the hard disc and ram is user upgradable.

@ItsMeProday83 Жыл бұрын

Waste of money; for ~3x less you can buy lenovo legion 5 pro on discount with same performance and better ports selection. Whatever, great review as always Marc!

@THE16THPHANTOM 2 ай бұрын

ooph, 5k laptop

@peacemakerle Ай бұрын

Have to work with this thing. Performs well, but... You can charge it exclusively via the Lenovo's proprietary power port. Together with the "docking station" you need two power connections - one for the docking station and one for the laptop itself. That's absolutely braindead. An idiot must have designed this. My company buyed it. Personally, I would have never ever. I don't want to be forced to carry the power adapter with me all the time. And with two power adapters it needs more energy than necessary. By the way, the docking station becomes very hot, thus a lot of energy is going lost here, too.

@interproservice Жыл бұрын

No ethernet on a power station? Very bad decision....

@villavan Жыл бұрын

No ethernet port ? Bruh...

@smilecome1 Жыл бұрын

you wrote P1 I guess you mean P16

@Romash. Жыл бұрын

lenovo is hiding another laptop inside it

@DigitalSamTV Жыл бұрын

3kgs tho.... Come on.....

@aluven Жыл бұрын

всю суть этой линейки была в клавиатуре и долговечности устройства. клавиатуру испортили. жаль...

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

Keyboard is still good but would have been better to have more key travel.

@indethbed2546 Жыл бұрын

yeah I'm not buying a laptop with that kind of charger again

@PandhegaPalibaya Жыл бұрын

I hate the red piping, it look cheap, look like gaming laptop crap

@andrewmarcdavid Жыл бұрын

I disagree. In person I think it gives it a more interesting and modern look .

@CM-yr6vw Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmarcdavid AD order some TPM 7950 from ebuy7 (takes a few weeks to come in) and I guarantee you are consistently hitting 22-23K in R23. I have two of these laptops with the 12950HX and both out of box would hit a ceiling around 18.5K. Both had identical results (within a reasonable margin) of between 22-23k. Hat's off to Lenovo for the vapor chamber. Finally a step in the right direction in terms of a thermal solution.

@quillaja 8 ай бұрын

agreed. pure black rectangle is the only thinkpad style