Thank you very much for this authentic and very good comparison. I liked your complaints regarding keyboard key travel and new track pad. This reminded me similar story when 10 years ago Lenovo did the same when they remove the old style keyboard and introduced the chiklet one. I don't understand why they keep repeating same errors just to follow Apple trend. 😕

thankyou for covering what matters to us thinkpad heads.

more people needs to see this. this is a big change and might as well be a deal break to a lot of us ThinkPad users. Thank you so much. You saved me so much money.

Bring back 1.8mm

The only reason I bought Lenovo was the nice keyboard. Thank you for this video - just saved me a bunch of money. Thank you.

I've got a P14s Gen3 AMD and my partner has the P14S Gen2 Intel. Both are nearly specced to the max apart from the SSD (I plan on getting a 2TB drive for mine at some point). In terms of keyboards. I initially disliked the new keyboard but honestly, don't hate it. I tried the laptops side by side and noticed that the Gen 2 keyboard, while longer travel feels mushier. The new keyboard clicks in nicer. 2 things annoyed me however: 1. omission of micro SD card slot. - That would have been nice extra bulk storage in the laptop. 2. ommision of the keyboard drainage hole. Luckily I don't tend to spill drink stuff on my laptops, but so far nobody mentioned how the spill resistance on these laptops has changed.

These reviews are SO damn good, helping me choose

Being a long time ThinkPad user, my quandary is I cannot have both 16:10 display and 1.8mm key travel in the same machine, I must get an old ThinkPad with 1.8mm or new 16:10 ThinkPad but not both.

If I remember correctly - you CAN upgrade ram on T14 Gen3 but only on Intel models. On the AMD models, all of the RAM is soldered onto the motherboard, but on the Intel version, one of the memory modules is slotted and it can be replaced.

I am tempted to pick a gen 2 with i7 5850u... Killer performance and 1.8 mm key travel.

Well the video has not ended yet but I need to say it...what a great video I've seen. Thank you so much!!

This reminds me of the days when Dell set the standard regarding build quality. Then one year they went downhill hard and were longer number one. Is it just me or does it fell like Lenovo is about to suffer the same fate?

Great comparison video!

cooling x13 vs t14 g3: unluckily T14 G3 is just allowed to draw 20 watts! As is the X13. So I expect similar performance. Not such a problem with AMD. I have L14 G3 AMD here atm and is allowed to draw 25 watts with single heatpipe instead of dual heatpipe in T14 G3 AMD (and intel+nVidia config). you can ramp it up to 40 watts with "ryzen controller" though.

I had decided for a T14 or T14s with AMD as my next dev laptop, my XPS 13 is getting old. Unfortunately, (at least here in Sweden) they only come with Qualcomm nfa725a chip, which is not supported in Linux. There is no option to change on Lenovo's site. So I can choose between non-working WiFi with AMD, or a power-hungry and hot-running laptop and worse battery life with Intel. :(

Nice review!

gold standard not for long. Will get to 1.35mm in no time ;) luckily I find the 1.35 mm keyboard on Z13/Z16 for example way springier with more pregnant pressure point and resistance than the 1.5mm keyboards, whereas the Nanos 1-35mm keyboard is a bit too soft for me. Best modern keyboard with 1.8mm has my P1 G3. But I go back to my modded T430 with 2mm classic keyboard regularly.

Given all the issues, what modern laptop would you suggest I get for business related work ? a must is a 16:10 aspect ratio screen... Thanks for your informative video.

This is sth like when Mac introduced Butterfly keyboard back in 2016 in the name of slim body design.

That is "Ashoka Stambh" on your P15 machine, National Emblem of India. The Pillar of Four Lions. { PS: Stambha means Column, Ashoka is for King Ashoka who ruled Indian Subcontinent for around 35 years} 👍from India!

Thank you for this video. I plan to buy the same Thinkpad T14 Gen3 with AMD CPU, can you tell me if are you satisfied with your choice? Is it reliable? U mentioned some sudden restarts, and thought that it is up to the windows, is it? Or it it is due to AMD platform?

Man you got Indian Emblem on p14🤔 What about getting a T14 gen 1 now, as price have went down? Please suggest...

Would it be possible to for you to do an experimental T14 Gen 2 & Gen 3 LCD Assembly Swap? Can you test if connectors are same? 1080p Webcam & LCD working? Thanks!

I actually like the T14 because of the Intel i7 12th gen CPU. However, you make some very good points. - 1080p display (FHD) is best for battery life. - Windows 11 is trash 🗑. - No fan is a long-term concern since the laptop is commonly used by programmers, project management, or accountants. The later 2 work long hours at times. It could potentially overheat at a time when it is needed most.

Two P14s Gen 2. One is AMD Ryzen 5, 32GB Memory (16 Soldered, 16 slotted), touch screen. The second is AMD Ryzen 7, 16GB memory (soldered), non-touch. The second on (16GB) is slightly cheaper. Which one is the better option?

What's even worse than T14G3 trackPad buttons? I have the Z13 IPS screen version. I love the weight and build and the fake leather. It stays cool even tho half the vent on the bottom is fake, does have intake in the back too tho. The screen is gorgeous. Speakers are great. The keyboard feels cheap and not traditional by any means but I tolerate it. The trackPad is good but I don't use it. The touch screen has wacom support and runs a pen very well in photoshop etc. I can draw fine without the yoga flip style screen. The trackpoint is crap, much shorter than even a yoga trackPoint. All the software tricks can't replace the mechanical advantage of a taller trackPoint. Next, the removal of the trackpoint buttons is terrible! Don't believe the reviewers who never use the trackpoint. Here's a summary - I use "mid click enabled" mode so I don't have to hold the middle button while scrolling and this also allows one mid click to open links in a new tabs. But also, the mid click closes tabs as well. So, I'm often hitting the mid click button instead of the left click and losing my damn tabs. Also, if you click the very right side of the mid click raised dots, it activates the right click? The very left side of the raised dots doesn't activate the left click, it mid clicks as it should. They can't even map the button areas correctly and it can't be adjusted like it could be with the T440s. But the worst of all is the left click button area. It moves slightly down when you click it for some reason, which totally screws up the fake click vibration and sound mechanism. When I try to double click a folder, the sound and vibration often only registers as one click. It feels mushy and shitty and sticks sometimes or doesn't register at all. This problem cannot be fixed like the T14G3's as it's not the pad that's moving, the pad is squishing into itself. Absolute garbage. One more small gripe, the thinkpad logo sticks to my hand and feels like my palm is sweaty and sticking to the base, what a foolish design. They basically ruined what could have been my ultimate thinkPad. Anyone who values their cherished trackpoint function steer far away from this beautiful laptop.

I have bought T14s gen3 AMD Ryzen 5 with FHD touch and display is poor. I have bought T14 gen1 Intel with FHD non touch and display is also , poor. I have my main laptop P15s GEN1 with I7 and UHD display, and is very good, but i don`t want it anymore because cooler is on right side and trowing heat always and i use 6-8hours/day the mouse. Looking to buy a NEW laptop 14inch, with similar good display as the P15s (T14 (s) or P14 (s) or X1 carbon to have: - best display - good cooling - best decent to very good battery life - long keystroke When i`m saying about good cooling i compare the laptops i test now : P15s (have it since 1 year) and T14 gen1. I keep the T14 in bed with me and cooler is almost off, and no heat problem. WIth P15s you cannot do that. That`s why im looking for new and reliable 14inch laptop to fit my "requirements". I`m sure your advice would help me a lot.

Should I get T14 Gen 3 or P1 Gen 5? the 16 inch screen seems interesting to me since most of the IDE and software applications looks comfortable for me at 16 inch. but ya portability is a concern. What would you recommend?

@Mister M, what you decided - keep or return? Your opinion would influence my decision. Also, what about the WWAN, I didn't see such an option in Lenovo configurator - do you know if there is slot and internal antennas so diy upgrade is possible?

Thank you for your info-packed review. I have always had my Thinkpad Ts with Intel. Is AMD better ? Which do you prefer ? (I use my Ts strictly for work ie Excel - no videos or internet) Anne

Why oh why oh why has Lenovo gone down to a single m.2 slot for 2280's. I'm actually still holding onto a P15 gen1, just because it has two stinking slots. Now adding the annoying keytravel as a second beef. 1.8 is minimum required! Looking now for a Gen2 AMD Ryzen 7.

Nice video. I wonder if P14s gen3 amd with 400nit 1080 screen a better option? Is it the same as the T14 gen3?

3:13 Out of context question, why do you have a cutout/sticker of India’s National Emblem?

wow dude i love u, it works!

would you suggest getting the gen 2 (amd fully specced) over the gen 3 ? How big of a difference is the performance between the two and is it worth the cost of comfort of the gen 2

i dont understand this whole thing they are doing to laptop keyboards. they are making them unsable

I wanted to upgrade my T14 Gen 2 AMD to T14 Gen 3 AMD, but now I realize it's not going to be quite the upgrade I'd like.

Hi, after 9 months do you still use the T14 gen 3? How's the experience?

Hi, Thanks for the vid and info.. I'm wondering which I should get.. The P14s GEN3 with intel 12th gen and Nvidia Quadro T550 4GB **OR** GEN2 with the Ryzen 7 PRO 5850U and AMD integrated graphics... I'm using it for large PDF files (architecture PDFs) with 4K monitor.. My current T14s with intel 8 GEN is taking a lot of time to process the files while connected to my 4K monitor via Thunderbolt and since it doesn't support HDMI 2.0. I cannot get my hand on a Ryzen 7 6850 processor..

If I wanted touch anti glare, do you know if the anti glare by Lenovo is more effective than the glossy or even the same as matte?

Why did you even get the T14 gen 3 when you already have the gen 2? Was the gen 2 not powerful enough for you? It looks like you have a ThinkPad addiction 😄

sorry but what are you using all these machines for ? what kind of work are you doing ?

So I just ordered T14s gen 3. Is has touch unfortunately. I asked if anti-glare means matte and they told me yes. If I wanted no touch I had to spend another 300$. I hate the glare. Anybody knows if it is possible to have matte touch screen or I'm escrewd.

I too hate Glossy displays, however, looks like Lenovo is giving a 4K AR/ AS display which is actually glossy but have some anti reflective and anti smudge coating on them, do you think they are good enough like a matte display?

Hi. What FPS can that iGPU 680M handle for screen capture with OBS AMD encoder? Can the CPU or GPU handle 4k 30fps?

I have a t470 i5200u amd. Now I bought the T14 G2 AMD Ryzen 7 5850u and the touchpad and trackpoint are complete and utter garbage. I have never experienced anything even close to this horrible. The trackpoint drifts more often than not, the touchpad has (I'm serious) 150ms response time (sometimes you think it has not detected your action, repeat the action, and THEN it moves), the trackpoint middle button clicks before it registers a press (so you just press it really hard and hope). I have not used a mouse with a laptop for over 10 years, but had to order a mouse after 24 hours. I hate using this thing. Lots of people seem to have issues now. This appears to be a combination of hardware, firmware (which synaptics have been solving for like a year), and software (which the kernel devs seem to be solving for months).

Do the thinkpads have an EOSL date?

Does the T14 Gen 3 have a glass touchpad?

Is the T14 upgradeable? Can i upgrade the ram?

@Mister M, I've bought "T14 Gen 3" with 400 nits display and it has noticeable text ghosting when scrolling, especially on dark background - slow response time. And want to change it to 300 nits model. It is really noticeable with comparison with any other display. Can you, please, confirm that your model does not suffer from slow response time?

Can you help to run a speed test on "speedOmenter 2.0"? with your T14s G3 AMD? I am considering to buy the Macbook M2 or this one.

your G2 has a MASSIVE fingerprint reader - was this used in a healthcare setting? afaik that's the only place you had those

The keyboard and mouse, I'm so sad, can we go back please... and am I seeing it right they even don't have the blue dots on the middle key? damn that's my fidget toy😡

i want to use windows 11.... are these computers not stable with windows 11???

so true, im keeping my t580 , so sad that the key travel sucks. Bought my wife a x1 carbon 10th gen, the keyboard sucks ass. feels like cheap plastic and there is like zero travel. Jesus christ and to hear that al their models have it now. Forget about it, look elsewhere or buy refurb/used..

Battery on t14 no s is not acceptable. Should be 57Whr like (s) model

Lenovo used to be IBM when they were really heave duty machines. Now it feels like chinese make it cheaper and tackier...

What do you do for a living?)

windows on a thinkap 😭

u have so many thinkpads lol

win11 a piece of garbage super!!! => Linux ubuntu!!!!!