Quite frankly Guy, what a simply beautiful and inspirational piece of music! Thank you 😀

I am using VSL a lot but not exclusively - I have loads of Spitfire and Orchestral Tools in there as well

@@ThinkSpaceEducation I know, I know. It's just I couldn't remember I had seen your face advertising for VSL before. That is what I meant.

@@Mansardian I didn't know they were going to do that!

@@ThinkSpaceEducation Hm, are they actually allowed to do that?🤔

@@ThinkSpaceEducation whoa really? I was a little surprised when I saw that yesterday too given how you usually review.

Real time nothing missed out - youre welcome!

Have you found the "Music and Ambience" playlists people create for each zones So nostalgic!

It is absolutely ridiculous that perfectly normal fine people like you have to suffer because of the choices your country makes that you have absolutely nothing to do with.

Yup. Sounds good. As I already have BBCSO Code I guess I'll pass for now.

Special edition harp is good as well

Oops. Are they not out yet?!

@@ThinkSpaceEducation haha maybe im just blind (which is also very possible :P) but when im exploring freebies on VSL site i dont see them too unfortunatelly. I hope they come out soon because i really like te sound in Your example. I guess that many of us will find them very usefull especially for fast sketching. The same i think about string runs and this soft piano. ...If some reason im wrong and im just blind :P and this 3 new freebies is out already please let me know where exacly i can find them :) Thank You for Your video. I love Your videos. Greetings from Poland

@@XeNoS_Music You're not blind, they haven't been released yet! I hope you weren't on an NDA with them, Guy... if that's the case, we'll tell the court we heard it from someone else ;)

Its actually pretty easy to combine them at the end of the day and Dorico makes it super quick.

Definitely.

@@ThinkSpaceEducation Thank you for your reply much appreciated

Yo yo I have a great tip for you. You can purge the kontakt plugins. This makes it that it only loads notes in the ram when they are actually in use. I work on a cheap laptop and can use a template just fine.

@@kazvanrooij How would you "purge" the plugins.

@@DanIel-fl1vc when you load a Sound into kontakt, up top little to the right of the midi Channel settings there is a “Purge” Button, that will unload all unused samples. Keep a look out on the ram used, as this will rise as you play. When you think the ram usage is getting high again you purge again. Also if you use several Kontakt instruments; keep them all in one instance of kontakt and make a multi instrument with each Sound set to its own midi Channel, and jus make a midi track for each Sound. That way you have as little memory overhead as possible instead of having one Kontakt instance for each track

If youve got all of synchron then no this is a lite version

​@@ThinkSpaceEducation ok, thanks enough for me at the moment,I bought Elite and Pro (love Strings Sound!!) and the rest of instruments this Library is all raight,Love Spitfire but VSL is more organic...magic! VSL Pianos too

I added my own reverb

@@ThinkSpaceEducation OK. It make sense. Thanks for your answer.

The 3800x is quite solid enough for most writing. 32GB of ram should be fine as long as you don't go too overboard and have a ton of patches up you don't use. I don't know about that specific Presonus interface, but Presonus is usually pretty solid. All in all, a 3800x and 32gb of ram is a really good way to start out. I see no reason you couldn't get an entirely usable full orchestral template going with that setup, though you'll probably start getting near the max ram-wise.

This is really hard as there is no real formula which will tell you how it would perform on your system. You should be ab le to run a really decent template on that spec certainly as much as the 100+ tracks Im running here but until your try it you cant know for sure

Ha! I should

Everything from VSL sounds meh, except maybe WW. It was always like this.

14 core Xeon PC 128gb RAM

Thanks Guy for another composing video!

No it was me cocking up the levels. See the link ats the top for a mix of the track

the staccatos are pretty short - but there are no string harmonics but then BBC SO has no bass clar so you pays your money....

@@ThinkSpaceEducation I'm not an expert, just looking for best-rounded first commercial orchestral library. But, as much as I like the instrument set, the SSD/DRAM footprint and flexible soundstage of VSL Synchron Prime Edition (supported by additional close mikes and mixer presets), I still insist, that omitting Spiccatos and Trills renders this library incomplete for beginner wanting to learn orchestration. There is a reason behind including them both in BBC SO Core and OT Berlin Orchestra. The problem is, that once you understand that you need them, I guess the only cohesive way is to supplement the strings with dedicated higher tier strings library (and pay twice as much?), and probably expand the hardware resources to host them. Not for laptop sketching anymore. Are you sure that VSL Prime Staccatos can reasonably replace missing Spiccatos? Unfortunately you didn't show Staccatos by Celli/Cbasses :-( Maybe they would rescue the show. Interestingly, also VSL did not include any instrument samples from this lib. We'll have to wait for more reviews. Thanks for the video anyway! :-)

Then there are some great free libraries out there - check out BBC SO discover, VSL Hello series etc

@@ThinkSpaceEducation I'm happy with my east west composer cloud, but I'm going to give it a try

@@santiagoacosta3372 EW cloud is great and perfect value

Springs?! You know that would be an original addition

Nobody pays me Daniela, you've been here long enough to know that. Lots of people have offered but I dont do this for a living - I write music adn run ThinkSpace! I get review copies sure but that's all. If I dont like something I wont review it.

VAL has moved away from hardware dependence

@@ThinkSpaceEducation I guess you know with the time my way of provoking. In fact the free gifts of VSL do often not help really to work with it. They just give a little impression but to use them makes just sense if you invest complete to a complete program. From sound really they make sense only if you do not mix them with other instruments. See I did have my concerns with spitfire because they did change the rules in silence. Fact is that they push now their customers to a unsecure system. the unloved dongle by a lot of users secure more their invest. We did phone with Steinberg and for shure they can register still their apps there. In fact their reaction that I like to offer a sell libaries seem me more a paper tiger to be compliant to European laws. Anyways… my English is still not good enough for yours courses. But there will be coming the time. In this I am shure. By the way we did find an arrangement with Spitfire Service. And such I do not see in the VSL anymore. In fact I lost because their marketing and service behaviors just the trust in them. I have not to concern much to the Synchron player as long you use it what he was made for. Gives a good workflow as long you make yours own system but if you just play the fabric setup it’s not really advanced in midi routing. But there is nothing you can not work out with different libaries.

In this inflationary market, I’d be shocked if they didn’t raise their prices eventually. I wouldn’t mind if some of their older products got a permanent price decrease (I love the VI instruments line, I’m not as impressed with my SE due to clunky legatos) but, alas, they need to eat too 😊. I’m just glad they didn’t go to a full subscription based system; those can really bite.

If you keep making multiple negative comments (about a company not about the specific product while under a video of someone that recieved the library for free)...yeah you are asking to be "consored"(even if i don't like it personally), and nobody is going to listen to what you have to say if you keep acting this way.

Seems like you have an axe to grind after a couple of negative comments? Why not take it up with VSL themselves instead on Guy's very helpful video? VSL are nothing but helpful and courteous. Their customer service is incredible and they really look after their composers. Recently, they have given out top quality freebies to all and continue to expand their existing collections. As a customer who is heavily invested in their libraries, they and the results I've been getting are exceptional.

@@misterpete1928 Nice you did some good experience with their service. I do not care their free libaries. They did push some to make a bit marketing for the new money maker iLok. And the discounts was not really one discount I have seen… same price level than any of their regular offers to push users to buy. If I compare their Service with other Companies they take for me one of the last places. A support Email from black Fryday is still not answered. To the libaries… as long you do not mix them with other libaries and use strict VSL in their system it works good. But if you mix than it does not work. They have a specific sound. And a reason a lot of composers do not go this way with them. The Spitfire Mix for example is for scoring much better. But others go to Dolby Atmos now. I can use the good 20 years old Absynth as Fx Plugin and Push anything through this effect channel to Dolby Souround and forward the bus to a Abbey Road Spitfire Dolby Atmos bus. As long VSL things they can ignore service requests since close to one year they have to expect that such will be announced at different places. Compare their Service with the service of other companies and this Libary is from sound point of view not the real burner that Hans Zimmer will do his next film with VSL. He did appear once I remember when they did open their building and use the location just once. Since this time he record different places and orchestras.