Thinset . Which type is right for your tile job. EXPLAINED

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Sal DiBlasi

Sal DiBlasi

3 ай бұрын

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I am often asked what type of thinset should be used? So to answer this question you first need to know what kind of tile is being installed and on what kind of surface. Thinset mortar is the glue that holds the tile to your substrate, picking the right one for your tile and substrate is of critical importance. There are several material specifications for thinset mortar from the American National Standards Institute or ANSI for short. These specifications are ANSI:
A118.1 Dry Set Unmodified Mortar
A118.4 Dry Set Modified Mortar
A118.11 Dry Set Modified EGP Mortar (Exterior Grade Plywood)
A118.15 Dry Set Improved Modified Mortar
Using a thinset for a tile or substrate that it is not designed to be used for can lead to failures, so it is critical to use a mortar that is suitable for the type of tile and substrate in your tile installation. Thinset is basically a mixture of sand, and cement and other compounds to facilitate the hydration process. Thinset is the “Glue” that bonds the tile to the surface to which it is applied, and it does this by growing crystals as it dries and cures. The crystals interlock and penetrate into the surface of the tile and the substrate, bonding it all together. The longer the thinset is able to grow crystals the strong the bond and the strength of the thinset.
So what kind of thinset should be used in any given application? Well there is unmodified thinset, and modified thinset, and other kinds of thinsets, but we are just going to deal with these two types which are the most widely used. Unmodified thinset is a thinset that has no polymers added to it, a modified thinset is a thinset that has either polymers added to the powder during manufacturing, or an unmodified thinset that is mixed with a liquid polymer on the job site just before it is to be used. Modified thinset is the most widely used mortar these days and is recommended for most applications and types of tile. So why is there polymer in the thinset anyway? Well it is there to help the thinset retain moisture so it can grow those crystals we talked about earlier. Many of the substrates that tile is installed on are very porous and thirsty and will absorb the moisture present in the thinset, which in turn will prevent the thinset from gaining strength, the polymers help with this problem by keeping the moisture in the thinset so it can Hydrate (grow crystals) properly. So when you go to the store you will see that not all thinset cost the same, some are more expensive than the others, well you get what you pay for, the cheaper thinsets have less of the needed components, and the more expensive ones have more, so by extension better. Modified thinsets also add an adhesive quality to the bonding mechanism, as well as flexibility, enhancing the strength of the tile assembly. So modified thinset is used to install porcelain tiles on all kinds of substrates that call for a modified thinset. All tile installed by Sal DiBlasi, Elite-tile Company, in the Boston North Shore area. This video contains affiliate links, which means I will receive a small commission if you click on the product link. #tile #transformthetrade #howtotile #installingtile #howtoinstalltile #laticrete #mapei #Schlutersystems #diy #construction #ardex
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@jimhill6586
@jimhill6586 2 ай бұрын
I actually need this $hit explained to me. It is a detail that greatly matters. I'm diy, but very careful in my application. I have made mistakes. Know and do it right. Thanks Sal!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 ай бұрын
Glad I could help
@josephenis6161
@josephenis6161 2 ай бұрын
This guy has improved my tile work so much, every tile I hear his voice saying we got lippage here we got lippage there
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 ай бұрын
😊👍
@erwynbalbuena9900
@erwynbalbuena9900 2 ай бұрын
Sal is the tile guru!
@Eusantdac
@Eusantdac 2 ай бұрын
I renovated an entire bathroom a few years ago mainly after having watched his videos over the course of two years. And the bathroom still stands, no leaks, all good!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 ай бұрын
😊👍
@mwmilling
@mwmilling 2 ай бұрын
Excellent. Great detail and exactly what I needed. Thank you!
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@TheLantran
@TheLantran 2 ай бұрын
Good work as always
@motivationforlifestylechan6935
@motivationforlifestylechan6935 2 ай бұрын
Outstanding information thank you.
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 ай бұрын
You bet!
@papaalan1765
@papaalan1765 2 ай бұрын
You da man Sal, great series of videos for people. One question, I watched your older vid about installing glass tiles in the shower. For the smaller holes like for the shower head pipe I've heard people using diamond drill set to that diameter, for the valve say 4.5 inch diameter hole and with overlapping glass tiles in that area, what did you use to create the hole there?
@jordanbender261
@jordanbender261 2 ай бұрын
Hey Sal thanks for the videos. Curious what bucket you’re using for the mortar???
@MB031
@MB031 2 ай бұрын
I use white schluter all set for everything and that's it, best results.
@ssl3546
@ssl3546 2 ай бұрын
he literally gives an example in the video of where "all set" is not actually good for "all" materials. also it doesn't spread as nice as better thinsets like Multimax Lite
@Mikepopo99
@Mikepopo99 2 ай бұрын
​@@ssl3546 Yes but what if you use ditra or kerdi. Wouldn't you have to use all set on every single tile.
@oddopops1327
@oddopops1327 2 ай бұрын
👍👍😉😉
@therealbarnekkid
@therealbarnekkid 2 ай бұрын
I'm a little confused. Are you using the terms "thinset" and "mortar" interchangeably throughout this video? So do these two words refer to the same thing in this discussion?
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@chefplaz9774
@chefplaz9774 2 ай бұрын
Sal I know tile on tile is a big no no and it is wrong. What type of thinset should be used to install tile on top of tile?????
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 ай бұрын
Actually it is not, as long as the existing tile is solid and properly installed with no cracks or loose tile. Is it something I would recommend? No. Have I done it? Yes. I would suggest using a a bond promoting primer like amzn.to/4a1ZJ74 and an ANSI A118.15 Mortar.
@splanzza
@splanzza 2 ай бұрын
Holly funk. We'll figure out the pyramids before the thin-set. 😵‍💫
@frankcatrini4816
@frankcatrini4816 2 ай бұрын
so where does unsanded thin set fall into all of this, lol? actually havent seen unsanded thin set in years
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 ай бұрын
Never seen it, it always has some kind of aggregate, some can be very small.
@fctazz
@fctazz 2 ай бұрын
​@@SalDiBlasimy father had a tile biz for decades starting in the 60s and when I was a kid in the early 70s thats all they use to use. I think it was a bonsal product in 25lbs and was called unsanded thin set . It was super sticky, like a really sticky unsanded grout. They used it on all the Japanese and American mosiac tiles and when they installed floor tiles, they had to add the sand into it. When I started in 81 no more unsanded thin set was used, so it went out mid 70s maybe
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 2 ай бұрын
That was before my time, however you can get similar stuff with Glass tile mortars, and high end Silica free mortars.
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