3 and a half hours? I'm in for a treat

13:15 listened to this in public. Regrets. 0

I think y’all might forget that an easy way to do MASSIVE mounting damage is to ram one monster into another, this actually makes two mounts pretty consistent.

So much stuff you all missed on lance. Guard advances any direction but forward are now only available after hits, the charged swipe (despite taking longer) does way more damage than the 3 poke combo (the swipe does more than even the charge finisher!), leaping thrust has had its range reduced noticeably, bumper camera lock on L2 has been replaced with wirebug which effects certain tech for guard advances, you can now long hop and then continue to do the other two hops (unlike in world), etc. Also you can do sweep, poke, sweep, or poke, sweep, poke, doesn't need to come at the end.

I guess the HH trips will really help to deter LS users from tripping at the head. At least now the weapon that trips at the head... is one that belongs at the head.

As someone who learned Hunting Horn recently in Iceborne, my issue with Rise's Hunting Horn is not the song mechanic, but what they did with the normal attacks. In previous games, each input would always result in the same attack regardless of where you were in your combo (e.g. forward X+A is always the overhead smash regardless of what the last move you used was), but in Rise, they added combo paths to memorize and also made it so that you can no longer influence the next move in the combo with a directional input. They also removed the standalone hilt stab, which is absolutely unforgivable.

These are by far my favorite videos in a loooong time. I hope you guys continue to do this once in a while ongoing. It's so great to hear you feed off of each other's passion for the game.

I miss the gigginox coffin hh from 3u, it was just atmospheric bells iirc Also just give us bagpipes, please give us bagpipes

Listening to these two talk monster hunter is just so chill you can tell they are so passionate about the topic. Really enjoy these podcasts so much 👍

This is probably my favorite podcast atm, keep it up guys i love listening to both of you

I’ve been waiting for this podcast. Hearing about MH:Rise from content creators I enjoy listening to is a highlight to my day! Thanks

Great one! Still feels unreal to have a podcast with those two. Please keep it up!

I'm really happy how long this is today, also I love hearing these discussions about the weapons you guys are having, I'm happy you guys are doing this podcast

Can't believe there's still so long to wait... My hype levels are overflowing! Thanks for the awesome episode 👍

Rurikhan!!!!! I have news in the demo. If you go to quest info you can find the Locale Information. It states the there are no outbreaks and no upsurges. This is very exciting information that the possible return of outbreak monsters are back and brings a lot of what if's for what's to come.

Listening to your guys' discussions and impressions of some of them weapons I haven't tried out in the demo yet really has me excited to try them out! As always thanks for a really entertaining and informative podcast!

The perfect length. Thanks guys 👌🏾

Man I love these so much can’t wait for the next one Thanks rurikhan for all the work you do Happy hunting!

Just listened to the whole thing and loved every minute of it! Excellent content, and @Rurikhan you could’ve easily slipped a couple more ads in there without being intrusive. Only two ad breaks for 3.5 hours of content... you’re too good to us dude and you deserve to make that money!

Hehehe been waiting for this. Thanks rurikhan. Sheilds up!

Leaving a comment to show support. I absolutely love this podcast

Extra long episodes are always welcome!!

Can semi-confirm the internal mounting timer. When I fought in the demo, Great Izuchi was slapped by another monster and was able to be mounted. I did and after that, left it alone to concentrate on the actual target. After a while, the Great Izuchi and my target meet again, Izuchi is immediately slapped again and was ready to be mounted another time.

Easily my favourite podcast from my 2 favourite youtubers . Keep it going guys

I love listening to these podcasts while playing the demo and iceborne. Looking forward to trying sns and charge blade in rise as never played them before! Keep up the good work on the podcasts!

I've been waiting for this treat!

Dudes ... the HBG silk bind block is amazing - you can use it on roars or even Mizu bubbles ... likewise, the SwitchAxe silk move goes thru roars. It’s nasty. Food for thought. Loving the new variety these moves add.

The Fight Club 🧼 reference was pure gold

59:46 The silkbind moves all have different cooldowns. Some have short, medium and long cooldown, DBs counter has short cooldown for example..

They should not nerf palamute on calling it mid combat, that thing is not instant you have to wait for your dog to come at you and doggo should not be stunned/kockout or got hit while going at you. This is a good option IMO and this is the best thing for blast weapon/charge blade users as they’re weapon loosen their sharpness real fast, and when your in arena where it’s hard to get a safe spot to sharpen this is a good thing.

Good stuff, I like the longer podcasts

Always awesome when both of you come together, makes the long day of work pass a little faster. Thanks for this guys! \[T]/

Combining 2 passions for me while I work. Monster Hunter and podcasts!

Before the demo I guessed that every weapon would have 3-4 moves based around specific templates, to match the two sheathed silkbind movements. A jump directly upwards, a pull forwards, some kind of returning move in the form of a silkbind, and a brand new move (usually a counter.) All of the missing moves seem to fall within this template too so we can have an idea of what to potentially expect. (I could be way off too but this seems to make a lot of sense)

Woo! Highlight of the week so far!

Hey dude I love your videos! Can`t wait to watch your gameplay videos when the game releases!

Been waiting for this ever since the demo dropped 🎉

Wow 3 hours this is gonna be so good.

I can't wait to listen to this while hunting on the demo.

One function of these demos is to see how these things work out in the wild where people are going to do things the devs never thought of and to have stress tests in the wild.

Three and a half hours! I'm buckled in and ready to go!! Shields up!

Just listening to this in school is the best

Ruri and Gaiji: the monsters in the trailer look really cool Great Baggi: Am I a joke to you

I just started watching this but if you had mentioned you guys should do a co-op hunt together.

You guys nailed it that the longsword is TOO good, and I wish capcom would stop sucking that weapon off. It's so easy, there's no trade-off to it, there's no skills that it requires. I think I'm mostly frustrated because any other weapon that has a counter, uses shields, and more often then not they need to spec into guard to be able to even use counters. LS can just counter from the get-go without needing to spec into anything, with higher i-frames, no knockback, no stamina reduction, while a weapon that's literally build around countering, like the lance, has to spec points into guard to be able to even use counters towards mid-late game monsters. That's why 1/5th of the player base uses it, because it's so easy AND good in every possible way with no trade off or weakness and capcom won't stop adding to it, while every other weapon does have some sort of trade off.

Servers dropped for emergency maintenance in the U.S. as well. I wasnt able to download the demo until like 3am the next day. Same thing happened when Joker released for Smash. Just waaaaaaay too many people trying to get into the eShop simultaneously.

I think the issue with too much happening is partially due to the palimutes and palicoes but also people are used to having flinch res etc from end game of World. I still remember World, GU and 3U being like that alot, as a lance player getting knocked over alot haha, but maybe they can do more to fix that issue. Also my thoughts on the demo are 10/10, never had this much fun on a demo before, something about Rise makes me feel like I'm playing MH for the first time again back on Tri. Can't wait to get the full game.

Now this is a good podcast where they talk about the game!

I love the new swaxe. Buuut daaaang im running straight for either focus or power prolonger and then im sure it will feel much better

For Lbg, focus reduces cool down on moves, and special ammo boost increases their damage

Yea the tech they said about hammer is so true i just tried it against great izuchi. The I frames is for the beginning to i believe when the lvl 3 charge glow starts.

Oh man that MH3 victory music at the end, what a way to end off a great podcast. That theme is nostalgia overload!

Yes just what I was waiting for

Whatever way we all decide to hunt, the wire bug feels so damn good for weapon and positioning movement.

I love how Rurikhan smiles when Gaijin does the intro

I really feel like timestamps would help here if you wanna jump to your main wep

I think you're right about the internal mount cooldown. I mounted Rathian at the beginning of the hunt just to soften up Izuchi. After I killed Izuchi I picked up some buffs and then I went after Rathian and very quickly got a second mount, it caught me way off guard lol

Shepard did the math on the hammer combos btw :) I believe the input buffer is shorter this game.

Ruri makes so many good points about the Longsword and it's exactly how I feel. I also agree in regards to weapon advantages and disadvantages - I like knowing my weapon can't do everything. Once I know it can, that limitation is broken, and the barrier comes down - it almost invalidates every other weapon to me, and I end up moving away from it as a result.

I don’t know about y’all but I feel like weapons in Rise feel a lot more.. accessible. Like in ice borne trying out a new weapon for me made me real nervous especially slower weapons like great sword Lance and GL. To me it felt like I could never use them especially in later mid to end game hunts, but in Rise all of them feel really good and fluid and fun, and I feel like I could really end up using these weapons a lot more later on.

I’m coming from P3 to Rise. There’s so much changed that everything is so difficult. So far the Gunlance is feeling good for me.

one thing i loved to do in iceborne with dual blades was to see how long i could keep my combos and damage up, staying in demon mode with 0 stamina. I can still do that in Rise as long as i be careful with wirebug usage. try it

So hammer is exactly that, the biggest change is that the Power hammer is now a permanent stance. The normal hammer does less damage and KO but is faster than the slower and stronger Power stance

Can't get over how cute gaijin's avatar looks

I was able to mount twice pretty easily using LBG with wyvern mines attached to monsters. First happens pretty much instantly and the 2nd one happens about midway.

Gonna listen to this tonight while I best up some more mizutsunes

The wirebug gap closer for the lance is insane. Basically gives full uptime especially in coop when the monster is running around like crazy and since it can be a block gap closer or an attack, its a lance charge but faster. The reason people dodge for lance is to reset the pokes faster and its less risky than starting a counter attack to reset since missing a counter leaves you more vulnerable longer if you dont actually counter a monster with it. Along with this, it puts you back into position since you move slightly with a triple poke.

Real fire changes color depending on the chemical that initiates the burn. My chemistry professor introduced us to Purple fire, Green fire and even hot pink fire, my memory of the chemical names are gone but you can look it up.

I'm so glad I never stopped manually inputting the backhop. I knew they'd take away the auto-combo-backhop at some point.

The Great Sword in the demo is actually Gos Harag's arm.

I wish i could add multiple thumbs up on this video. You guys are so knowledgeable about monster hunter. I only put 275 hrs into MHGU and maybe 6hrs into Rise. To know what y'all know, must have been 5 digits or more of play time to truly understand the mechanics. Y'all are legends!

I like the palico. The only thing keeping me from using it in the demo is just getting to the monster, but im sure once we get the other fast travel points in sure I'll just use palico no matter what, while only using a palimute in solo play.

Loved the fight club reference

At 3:06:04 when Ruri mentions Magnamalo having acid reflux I laughed my ass off because I have acid reflux too and "hellfire" is the best term I can use to describe it.

HBG is much improved if you ask me. I dig the charge shot

If that's the case with Gunlance I would love it they did something similar for charge blade and give it the same access to phial types like Switchaxe does. I just want a blue flame Exhaust CB or or purple Lightning poison CB.

2:09:00 It's not the only discrepancy between the hunter notes and gameplay. The longsword also mentions that Iai Spirit Slash will go down a level if you don't time it, but it doesn't. it just doesn't deal bonus damage.

A cool taunt for Lance could be to bang your shield like a gong and it has a GP like you said.

This is awesome

With Insect glaive they removed the Iceborne descending strike and replaced it with a similar silkbind attack so in regards to charge blade I'm imagining theyve done a similar thing where savage axe mode will either be available via silkbind or some other mechanic. Perhaps more weapons are gonma get different playstyles depending upon the type of that weapon you've crafted too, similar to gunlance & HBG with its special ammo types.

I'm pretty sure that the kinsect in the demo is literally the basic bug that evolves into the other kinsects. Plus the kinsect when you use the recall has to be on the other side of the monster so it hits it on the way back in order to heal you. I was always able to heal myself with it if you throw the kinsect then recall toward the monster jumping over it. Or throwing it out leaving it alone then recalling when the monster starts attacking you.

Oh boi! Let me catch some tea ☕️

Regarding the 4 players and Palamute + Palico I think a solution could be to either have the Pals be absent when in combat - Like, you engage with the Arzuros and the Pals back off, then once combat ends the Palicos come in to help heal you up or the Palamutes come in and you can ride them to chase down the monster. That way they'll be in the hunt (and you can show off your cool Pal armor!), but they won't clutter the screen in combat. A second option would be to have the Pals cycle during combat - Like the previous example, but one Pal at a time gets to "tag in", for say about 2 minutes, and then they tag out and another one enters for 2 minutes or so.

The one time I forgot to bring my earbuds to work today...

if the kinsect isn't fast, get closer to the monster. you can call it back quicker too

Time to strap in, it’s gunna be a long one

I'm playing GU , will get Rise later but I love the hype for Rise. Something to work towards.

was playing hunts with IG while listening to this and i agree with Gaijin SO mcuh. Its so god damn much fun to be dashing around in the air so much. IT EXCELS SO HARD in thin areas. I would get hit by mizu fling back into the air and grab to a wall and instantly start just going ham mid air. I cannot understand at all why people think this weapon is 'dead'

For the palamute and palicos i believe they are going to be fine since with the armors you can get and they can bring back those skills to increase your companions skills and such i think it will be fine and that they won't be KOed that quick

Pali o will get chosen for min maxing when attack buffs

I think the sharpening on the palamute won't be to overpowered. While playing solo my palamute disappeared a few times after taking enough damage so it's not always around.

I’m just glad that some tetsucabra survived my great tetsucabra massacre in gu I was an insect glaive main and the best map to get nectar was the ancient forests so I’d collect my nectar then annihilate a tetsu to end the quest then after a few runs id check the farm for specific ones I needed

Oh shit! My kinsect guy missing comment got a shout out 😂

"I can swear in this podcast, right?" Savage Gaijin was born.

Oh yeah, so if we got Mizutsune, perhaps Lagiacrus can make a return as well

Do an instant slingshot after the kunai with the dual blades and hit it. Doesnt even have to be blade dance. The regular x combo is hella strong too or you do your 2 uprising spins. Most I've hit for with the kunai was 229 so far (with a hh in party) and 201 solo

One thing I noticed on mounting is I got 3 ish mounts on a monster, by using wire bug attacks, spider bug and ramming into it with 2 other monsters

Woot! I'm gonna listen while I do some village quests in mhfu. At 2:37:07 no siege mode in demo. The x+a combo does a melee attack. Loading the special ammo and firing mini gun style seems to be what siege mode used to be only mobile now. Purely supposition on that last bit. Think I've decided on HBG as my main for this game.

I'm hoping for Palamute race and Wyvern ride arena minigames in Kamura so you don't have to go on quests to do it.

For HBG multiplayer Charge shot will be the way to go but Single player just spam you regular shots till you're low on ammo