This 1969 Mercury Cougar Gets Down!

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3 жыл бұрын

Just driving home and seen this sad 1969 Mercury Cougar, I knew I had to save it. It sat in the same place we rescued the 1976 Lincoln. After it was pulled out of the warehouse it was for sale about a mile down the street from my shop. Does this car still Get Down? Does it have any fun left in it? I think it may........
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@deanwhite9897 3 жыл бұрын

Please don't destroy that car it's worth more than you know

@davidleland8729 3 жыл бұрын

Great Find! Keep it original and by no means don't dirt track it! That would be a terrible waste of a great car!

@gavindesjarlais4491 3 жыл бұрын

Has holes in the roof

@davidleland8729 3 жыл бұрын

@@gavindesjarlais4491 That's an easy repair.

@Wooley689 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like a good candidate for an easy restoration instead of thrashing it around. Worth a few good dollars as she is.

@romans828. 3 жыл бұрын

No respect around here for these classic finds. None at all.

@gavindesjarlais4491 3 жыл бұрын

You try fixing a rotted roof

@Wooley689 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic find. Cougars and Mavericks are basically unknown to the younger car generation. Remember the Eliminators, two guys in high school had them, one was green and the other was red. Badassed rides.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Awe man if I found an Eliminator, that would be Game Over! That’s a nasty car, meaning bad ass!

@Rev.Clarence 3 жыл бұрын

Man, my sister had a '68 Cougar...360 V-8...Carter, I think, 4 barrel carb. All original... I was so jealous! Lmao

@bmacd2112 3 жыл бұрын

Cougars are a lot of fun! Oh, and the cars are nice as well.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! I see what u did there lol

@olikat8 3 жыл бұрын

I have a very close friend who is very much a cougar. Very petite & pretty, we have been mistaken for a married couple a few times (we have known each other for years), even with my younger daughter who is tall & blonde. Funny thing? She makes about $200k a year

@jerrydaniel2541 3 жыл бұрын

That ford is a keeper!! Don't totally mistreat it. I'm sure you want.

@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus 3 жыл бұрын

Wheel covers are late '70s - early '80s Ford, used on Fairmonts, Zephyrs, Fox Mustangs, etc. Vinyl top is definitely aftermarket with the strange lower routing pattern.

@lloydgreen4091 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Brad, those are called Sequential tail lights. Shelby Mustangs also had them. That FULL vinyl roof is Not a Landau roof. A Landau roof from that era, the Vinyl was covering Only the rear Half of the roof. Sad to say there's not that Big of following for the Cougars, kinda like late '50s & up T-Birds. If you find someone who loves it more than you, don't be afraid to flip it so it will get taken care of & loved, & use the $$$ for your other builds. Actually the TWO Gems you've got are the Doug Headers!!! & the Vintage Rail Dragster. I know it's unbelievable, But it's True. You should be able to find a good home for the Cougar easily. Remember... ALL Cougars Require a lot of Upkeep !! LOL Again Thank you for Your Service.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree, I see them for sale all day for 3000. This one sat for 20 years and it’s a shame. These cars like to get opened up, and we always have a great time with these cars. I can’t stand when people let them just rot away

@davechampagne9697 2 жыл бұрын

Would like to give two thumbs-up, I love seeing these old rides,put back on the road. I would trade my rust free 95 Isuzu trooper, for an old ride.

@davidjohn6070 3 жыл бұрын

I owned/drive to high school junior year a '69 Cougar drop top w/a 351C 2 bbl in '78. It was a very strong running engine and transmission. It had the sequential rear turn signals. Very rare find these days.

@custardpie40 2 жыл бұрын

I felt like shedding a tear watching it get trashed in dirt....that car/ year has memories ..someone will dish out bucks for it.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t worry, the roof was fixed and the car was getting restored last I seen.

@ShadeTreeKennyT 3 жыл бұрын

I always shoot some PB Blaster in the cylinders, then add a little two stroke oil on top of that, if the engine has been sitting and not run for years. At the very least, if it spins freely with a breaker bar, I give that first crank with two stroke mix gas, just to make sure everything is getting some lubrication after sitting dry all that time. That car is in great shape, might wanna give her some love on that roof and body/paint. I'm not a fan of vinyl roofs, but maybe peel that one off and see what you're workin with....might be able to paint it. That ending though? Bo and Luke would be proud! 😁

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Top is completely gone. But I am noting the two stroke gas on the first crank. I’ll keep that in mind on the next one, no doubt

@robertvance1873 3 жыл бұрын

That looks way to savable to run the Piss out of it.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

There all savable! This one is really cool, but I’m not scared to have a little fun with them either….I changed the oil

@robertvance1873 3 жыл бұрын

@@PoorBoysGarageUSMC hey it's your car, you don't see cougars that year in such good condition it's a good candidate for an Eliminator Clone.

@rickymayberry3521 3 жыл бұрын

If that’s what you were gonna do with a great classic like that,it was better off right where you found her......

@damianjackson9084 3 жыл бұрын

Wont hurt it only a bit of mud

@leroysmith5074 3 жыл бұрын

wow good looking car bro

@sascontracting8749 2 жыл бұрын

You are the man bro I live in Boston can’t wait to retire move to the sticks and rip on some oldies

@jerrydaniel2541 3 жыл бұрын

These cars were one step up in luxury from the mustang. I almost bought one in the early 80s. Very nice looking car. See quite a few of them around in the western states.

@craigbowley6783 2 жыл бұрын

Don't ruin that car! Keep it and put a badass engine in it. You don't come across those very often. Those cars are rare and collectible.

@thomasdavis5784 3 жыл бұрын

The tail lights are called a sequential system it was also used on the mustang calif special in 1969

@olikat8 3 жыл бұрын

Love it...first the Falcon & now this Cougar. I'd love to find a '68 Cougar XR-7

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Or an Eliminator! Love to find one of those

@damxgopak457 3 жыл бұрын

That's a fairly rare car shouldn't fuck it up.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t i changed the oil

@TheOne-ex8cs 3 жыл бұрын

@@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 🤣

@gaetana.cincire5821 3 жыл бұрын

Thanx mom !

@damxgopak457 3 жыл бұрын

That was a special order roof the landau ornament belongs there.

@smarternu 3 жыл бұрын

With the kitty cat.

@not2fast4u2c 3 жыл бұрын

Just subbed to you a week or so ago..I grew up around cars this old and Enjoy seeing them being saved

@aliyahyazwaid3280 3 жыл бұрын

You are the best👍💯

@bungeycord5971 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing survivor car and great video !

@burt66669999 3 жыл бұрын

Looks good !!!

@RobertBrownbrowncone 2 жыл бұрын

Cool car, great video!

@gunjiweber42 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome car, I have a 68 the same color

@oldmanintheshopbuiltnotbou8726 3 жыл бұрын

good job brad

@chadswanson7843 3 жыл бұрын

1969 mercury cougar accessory brochure shows the Landau roof bars being an available option. Wonder if that is a rare top on the car. I could not find a pic anywhere of a top like that.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t either. Thanks for the update on the Landau option.

@zaffinod 3 жыл бұрын

How much to take the Cougar off your hands? And: did the tyranny fail?

@GibbyRipps 3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah bro

@grandcrappy 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I woulda put a lil oil in the top end to avoid the dry cranking after that long.

@andydiaz7296 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet I want.

@effortlessrob1114 3 жыл бұрын

That's such an awesome find! And the exhaust u did really set it off. Great stuff man.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro it was a fun car! I love getting these old rides going and open them up a little. That’s all part of the fun

@damianjackson9084 3 жыл бұрын

Love it nothing wrong with having a little fun won't hurt she's still saveable after a good blat this channel should have way more subs

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

That’s what we say! More subs is always a bonus, lol

@IronHorseGarage 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome stuff!!!

@jerryhunley3072 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, dirt tracking man!!👍👍😊🇺🇸

@gaetana.cincire5821 3 жыл бұрын

kEEP GOING KID...YOU'LL GET IT .

@gaetana.cincire5821 3 жыл бұрын

I've burned tires off of a 67' cougar. 3speed 289 lock diff. So a 69, 351...I can relate !

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Hells yeah!

@robertvance1873 3 жыл бұрын

Such a waste of a great Car

@06roadntrack 3 жыл бұрын

Such a cool car and she wants to run and drive why trash it seems nicer than some of the others just patch holes in the roof

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Just opening up the 351 a little. These old cars like it. We drive it normal as well, you just got all the edited thrashing, lol

@dhardclass 3 жыл бұрын

It has the open chamber heads in it good for 700 plus horses .

@Rev.Clarence 3 жыл бұрын

Those hubcaps are similar to the original but not the original ones.

@GearheadRob319 4 ай бұрын

Thats a hell of a ride. hope its still kicking.

@romans828. 3 жыл бұрын

Thrashing that classic is a disgrace.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

No letting them rot away is a disgrace!

@gavindesjarlais4491 3 жыл бұрын

It has holes in the roof

@jakereal3604 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like someone added Landau Bars from a 67-68 Thunderbird on the sides of the roof. I’d restore that!!

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 2 жыл бұрын

I think you are right. It needed a new roof, I definitely remember that

@glenbo2464 3 жыл бұрын

And that folks is how you have fun ! lol

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I say! These cars like to be opened up and have a little fun with, not rot away to nothing….

@benortiz2374 3 жыл бұрын

your a badass chanel keep it up youll be at 100 k soon love your chanel!

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks my man! Means a lot…

@lilliedickerson4415 3 жыл бұрын

I had one a long time ago

@machineman6498 3 жыл бұрын

No position to buy it off you or tell you what to do with your stuff, but can you update us on what finally becomes of the car?

@truegrits257 3 жыл бұрын

That's a keeper brother should take some of your cars to the ratty muscle car drag event's

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a must do….

@truegrits257 3 жыл бұрын

They got one coming up in middle of Oct mopar vs brand X at jakes drag strip in Alabama

@truegrits257 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure if they sell roof skins for these but if the poor boys way to bondo the hell of of the roof and prime and paint it put a new top on it and keep it inside

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

@@truegrits257 roof needs to be completely replaced. The whole thing is gone.

@truegrits257 3 жыл бұрын

Well lucky you got a car that does have aftermarket support can get a new skin for it for 400 bones. If you ever want to fix it you can just depends on how roasted the inner structure is could be a easy fix.

@janicedavies2521 3 жыл бұрын

Dont trash it restore it....................

@gtodave7576 3 жыл бұрын

My parents had a 67 and 70 cougar when I was young. The 67 had those hubcaps so I’m betting they are probably original

@gaetana.cincire5821 3 жыл бұрын

As soon as mom is done with the apple pie, she'll come over and will start it.

@user-fk3ty3sw1l 7 ай бұрын

I used to have a 1970 cougar with the 352 Cleveland I actually only paid $400 for it and it was not in bad shape they are a factory built race car and one of the best road hugging cars I ever drove it would get up and go! I sure wish I still had it my favorite muscle car.

@user-fk3ty3sw1l 7 ай бұрын

I meant 351 Cleveland

@ronsre-creations5289 3 жыл бұрын

The unique landau portion of the vinyl roof extending down the top of the quarter is a rare aftermarket accessory. The goofy t-bird s things on the xr-7 qtr medallion's not sure if their rare ?. I've seen 2 other cougars in the past 25 years with that same top. Not sure if it was a factory or a dealer add on?. Rare none the less. (Preserve it as from the corner down is all different from the standard vinyl top.) I've seen this on a 70 Mustang fastback too in california, that 1 looked extremely goofy ;) I have a 58,000 mile 69 Xr-7 R-Code 428 Cobra Jet, C6 Auto, Fact AC, Tilt away. Black with Black vinyl Roof and Black leather interior and Red stripes. Original color was Maroon. But you have a Great score there ! Semper Fi Brother !

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

It is a good car, only downside is it rotted away for so long the hole roof is toast, I mean the whole thing! Still a fun car though, for what’s left of it

@jimpatnode4445 3 жыл бұрын

Not a ford/merc guy but that car is worth fixing. I would like to have seen a popo grab ya 😆

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Cops and Marines stick together so he probably would have jumped in the car and done burnouts too

@scottkovacs7634 3 жыл бұрын

I bet my step mom would buy it, it was her first car.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

And is sell it to her….

@rayrayadkins6178 2 жыл бұрын

My grandma had one of those and it had a 289 rocket and a 4 speed

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t see those to often. Anything 4-speed is pretty tough to find

@jimschafer9196 3 жыл бұрын

Put the Holly EFI, JRGO loves, put on on his FE pickup, and a V6 Bronco.

@rickymayberry3521 3 жыл бұрын

I watched to the end but wished I hadn’t.......:

@muhammednizammuddeenkhan8756 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome bro... Keep it up... Wish we had cars like this in south africa... Good content... Keep the action flowing... Unlike other videos that just bore the crap outa me coz they only talk bullshit.....

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Trying my best over here, thanks my man!

@ATOMSHAMRADIO 2 жыл бұрын

I always wanted one

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 2 жыл бұрын

They are definitely out there for sale.

@ATOMSHAMRADIO 2 жыл бұрын

Put some old slot rims on it it will look good

@aaroncurry7848 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah those are the original hubs

@scotthay1486 2 жыл бұрын

Mean machine. Good score. Should make a buck on this one if you don't wrap it around a lamp-pole. High fives.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, it needed a new roof. It actually got fixed, and I think it’s getting a restore last I checked, or may be a cool ratty driver……thanks Scott

@gaetana.cincire5821 3 жыл бұрын

aLL MOTORS...SPARK, FUEL LINE, COMPRESSION...NO SECRETS !

@dhardclass 3 жыл бұрын

😳No automobile cougars but a few Cougars 🙄

@charlieboisvert9699 3 жыл бұрын

Hi my name is Charlie love ya work. We live in good old North Carolina also in walnut cove where are you Buddy love to meet you I have a 1982 Cadillac Eldorado triple white she only got 75000 miles on her just thought I'd share so man car talk with ya love the couger

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

We are down here in New Bern NC

@charlieboisvert9699 3 жыл бұрын

Nice area my wife and I were there before we went to the outer banks beautiful

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

@@charlieboisvert9699 I retired from Cherry Point so we kind of got stuck here. But it is a beautiful area

@TheOne-ex8cs 2 жыл бұрын

It sounds like that cougar on Forza on Xbox 😃👍

@denislandry7577 3 жыл бұрын

Too nice a car for dirt track

@dannycasler4959 3 жыл бұрын

The vinyl top on this car isn't an original , The original ones didn't have the ''spear'' mouldings with the vinyl between them running back the quarter panels, I would tear it off and throw it in the trash! Do you let your boy rip around in these cars a little? That's how I learned to drive! In an old rusty Studebaker Hawk GT on the farm I grew up on I was 11 years old and I was in a 30 acre field with nothing to hit I pulled into the field and floored it and held it there I learned to drive flat out and sideways!

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Danny, I’m so upset! I woke that kid up at 8:00 and told him we are going to have the best time with you this Cougar. I was going to let him cut loose and all that stuff. We got it out there to my friend Jeff’s house, ripped it for literally 20 min and that was the end of it! I was a little sad, but I had all these different vids I wanted to do, and what you see is about what I could make of the footage. Man I’ll do better on the next one, no doubt!

@dustyowens9514 2 жыл бұрын

Now being the proud owner of it and watching this answers my questions about all the dirt in the rear quarters 😂 P.S She's being restored now not dirt tracked lol

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha Right on Dusty, that car gets down for sure! It was about to go to the crusher before I was about to grab it.

@ATOMSHAMRADIO 2 жыл бұрын

That stripe on the back pillar from a 68 t- bird

@gunjiweber42 3 жыл бұрын

Grecian Gold

@charlesgardner8928 3 жыл бұрын

The cougar and the third were the same car at one time

@gaetana.cincire5821 3 жыл бұрын

mORE STUFF IN THE CARB AND THE CHOKE...YOU KNOW !!!

@tecdesigns8183 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds evil, great vid thanks

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother, much appreciated

@robertclymer6948 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Sgt Brad! Too solid of a car NOT to flip it. IMO. Cheers from Motown! P.S. Find me a 67 like this one, and me and the trailer will be on our way.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

The car looks great in the vid, but the roof is toast! Not just a few holes, the whole frickn thing….

@robertclymer6948 3 жыл бұрын

@@PoorBoysGarageUSMC Convertible conversion? hmmmmmm

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

@@robertclymer6948 hahaha your not the first one to say that. I just could never get myself to cut a top like that. I don’t mind opening these cars up and having some fun, but slice a top off, that would hurt my feeling. I’ll just leave a few holes. Lol

@slavaukraine5117 Жыл бұрын

Still have this? Location if winning to sell pls

@gaetana.cincire5821 3 жыл бұрын

Well if your trip is lights...smoke it up and trip !

@79tazman 3 жыл бұрын

In 1969 the 351W was the base engine in that year it went right up to 428 SCJ anyway does that 351 have a 2V or a 4V?

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

@grandcrappy 3 жыл бұрын

He said H-code, that is 2V. But those breathers much better than a Windsor motor.

@teeoshbe 2 жыл бұрын

It a h code it came with a 351 Windsor not a Cleveland Cleveland is the m code

@jamesjones8957 3 жыл бұрын

You never mention if you change the oil and filter in the cars you find? Sludge in the pan and a clogged up filter can destroy an engine your trying to start. Just curious?

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I change the oil, especially if I know I’m going to open them up a little bit. I wish I could show everything I do but if I did these vids would be to long…..

@joedreblow5236 2 жыл бұрын

Where do you get your USMC apparel?? Those shirts are awesome!!!

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 2 жыл бұрын

Mostly eBay! I love my veteran shirts

@gaetana.cincire5821 3 жыл бұрын

How did 351 became Javelin AMC motors !?

@scottkovacs7634 3 жыл бұрын

You don't find them that rust free. Keep it and rip it. How's the super bee going

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Sold the Bee. We had a great time with that car, but it was killing the wallet, so I talked to Jadon and we just decided to start over. That car was nasty! I love these old cars…..All of them

@jnichols2839 3 жыл бұрын

I love hot rods too very much so, but you have never had fun til you been in a jet boat, especially a two seater on shallow water.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

I really want to try one. I’m working on that deal….

@gaetana.cincire5821 3 жыл бұрын

Of course, if seat leather is ok...engine must be too, right !?

@armondoborjas4362 3 жыл бұрын

That was the businessmen Hot Rod back i n the day. 351 ci.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

No doubt. Mercury’s are the higher end cars of Ford

@armondoborjas4362 3 жыл бұрын

Today there worth $$$ in the bank hope u got it back on the road for it's a cool ride

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

@@armondoborjas4362 in this condition probably looking at about 25-3000, not to big of money. Now if it was an Eliminator that’s a whole different ball game……

@armondoborjas4362 3 жыл бұрын

@@PoorBoysGarageUSMC it looks much better on the video. A project for sure 👍

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

@@armondoborjas4362 no doubt

@scottkovacs7634 3 жыл бұрын

I went threw the same thing on a rotor for my Ford truck. Believe it or not for a 95 F150 210434 miles 302 and still runs great. Do you give out free stickers

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

I’m out of stickers. We are on the process of ordering a few more with the new logo….

@bigbobk1963 3 жыл бұрын

Nice Brad.....Good ol ROCK AUTO LOL :) Pretty sure H code has a Posi ????

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Nope, Watch the video the part where I’m going around the circle

@bigbobk1963 3 жыл бұрын

@@PoorBoysGarageUSMC I saw dirt shootin up from both wheels....you would have to do burnout on street in straight line to find out for sure, put did see 1 wheel on circle!!! Still nice find....can't believe hide a ways still work

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

@@bigbobk1963 lol yep me neither, just fixed a vacuum leak and they came alive! Hahaha, coolest thing about the whole car….Happy Father’s Day

@bigbobk1963 3 жыл бұрын

@@PoorBoysGarageUSMC and the tail light are like TBIRD !!!! Hope Jaden n Momma do something nice for ya today Buddy

@matthewjacobsen9503 3 жыл бұрын

sell me that car, I had a 69 cougar in high school... please

@gaetana.cincire5821 3 жыл бұрын

Can it be moved up to 383, 390, 440...340 wedge ???

@bigmatlock62 3 жыл бұрын

what’s the most that you have found inside a car on cleanup. It reminds me of my second uncle , he used to drive around with $10k in the trunk in his. LTD “for emergencies” I have been waiting for him to forget what he did.

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, I talk about that in some of my videos around here. Honestly for as many cars that I’ve had besides the usual change and tools, I really never found anything that blows me away. I think when I was stationed up in DC, doing cars I found a silver chain in the back floor. I do find a lot of combs though. Lol

@timjones1464 2 жыл бұрын

Nice cougar man but why a dirt track car, it's in to good of shape to dog it on the dirt bro! That butch could be nasty with the right paint and wheels !!! The body's in killer shape and it runs strong!!!!

@PoorBoysGarageUSMC 2 жыл бұрын

It had a jag of rust in it. I thought it would be fun, and it was…..