Where is this girl with the timestamps? I am missing her too much. When will she come back? She did such a great job.

Damn right Adult skating supports skating worldwide! Be great if the national associations actually REALISED that

A Dave leave/Jenny Kirk figure skating consultant agency is deeply needed!

It depends on who your friends are, I guess … but: Jonathan's suggestion that Nathan's performances would not be the kind you would show to a non-skating fan would only make sense if this person also had no interest in sports. Nathan Chen is precisely the person who would most interest non-skating fans in the sport of figure skating (emphasis on "sport"). I was rather impressed myself not only by his athleticism but also by his two new programs (which I prefer to the ones he skated last year).

This and that 13:10 Boston open 17:16 Hackensack vs new rink 20:32 Lindsay Thorngren, Nancy 24:45 qualification system ISP challenge 27:48 Jason Brown 30:00 music issues 32:43 Alexa Knierim/Brandon Frazier 45:05 Jessica/Brian Kayne/LeDuc 58:38 Alyssa Liu 1:00:00 Bradie Tenell (1:05:00 Alexia Paganini) 1:08:16 Mariah Bell 1:16:45 Jason Brown 1:21:50 Nathan Chen Nebelhorn trophy 1:29:28 Deniss Vasiljevs 1:31:05 Matteo Rizzo, Gabriele Frangipani 1:31:38 commentator 1:32:08 russian whistleblowers 1:33:55 Green/Parsons dance program Dancing with the stars 1:36:54 hosts, Johnny Weir, older seasons, Tyra vs Ted Barton Russia 1:44:10 Eteri text message scandal 1:46:20 Mikhail Kolyada

1:29:28 Starts the discussion about the Nebelhorn Trophy. Jenni Saarinen and Gabriele Frangipani were my favourites at this event. Jenni is yet another finnish lady with huge jumps, stunning presence and amazing skating skills, very underrated, she moved to Kostner's coach this season. Gabriele added the quad toe this season, moved the 3a in the second half, i've to say beating Rizzo was a bit of a statement for him, the fight for the Olympics spots there will be interesting to watch.

My other issue with Mariah's FS is that she skated the whole thing like she wished lyrical music was on. Literally no change in speed or style with each song, like they tried too hard not to go over the top and fell flat.

Thank you Dave and Jonathan, watching TSL and your Patreon judging videos... the best!!!❤️❤️❤️

Now that you know Shae did Abba..how do you feel?

I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't comment much about the Nebelhorn Trophy. After all it was the first International figure skating event of the season (ISU sponsored). It was only Deniss's shirt, sleeveless or not, meagre mention to his first quad, vague reference to Gabriele Frangipani's program, the rookie commentator. Ladies - zero mention, didn't exist. And Eva Lotte Kiibus (the winner) is a rising star. Dance, Pairs, didn't happen. So if figure skating is dead in Europe (to which strangely Moscow and St Petersburg belong…), you're not helping to ressuscitate it. Nathan's programs may have many quads, but Deniss's programs were far more fascinating. That said, I usually enjoy your This and That. From Portugal, in Europe.

I clicked on this video because I saw Nathan’s name got listed in the subject. Knowing their view of Nathan in the past I hesitated initially for a second but clicked regardless - hoping that the pandemic might have not only changed the world but also this channel...Of course, sigh, most people don’t change...I like both Nathan’s programs this season. So beautifully skated. Nathan’s music and artistry has the level of depth that few skaters can reach. For example, for his FS program, if you truly understand Philip Glass’s music, you will then really understand, appreciate and watch in owe of Nathan’s interpretation and performance.

Waking up to Debbie taking over the call and telling Igor how to run his classes was exactly the energy I needed today!

I gotta admit, even knowing that you accidentally got the choreographers mixed up for Mariah, it's hilarious how you're all drilling poor Adam and the weird ABBA transitions (plus the "you should do programs for an intermediate skater" comment) when this was done by Shae Lynn Bourne 😂😂 It really puts things into perspective for SLB and I hope she listens to the constructive criticism and adjusts Mariah's musical transitions. Also, Nathan's programs looked way better choreographed and more cohesive. Which makes me wonder why is SLB giving something so unfinished to Mariah. Now that she has a Kostornaia program in the making I hope that we won't see an obvious program quality contrast between both skaters. I would hate to presume that SLB has her favorites... As for Adam, he deserves an apology 😅

Krigor Studio consumes my life. 10-12 classes a week. I plan my schedule around ballet and jumps! Worth it!!!

When I saw Mariahs new programs I automatically thought she should use glitter in the air for her long and use abba (someone please edit that music and make it make sense) for her short. Also just stick with Adam as her choreographer, he's done her best programs the last few years. Hoping we'll see a triple axel attempt (even if its just a video of her doing one in practice) by the end of the season. Nathans programs are breathtaking. Can't wait to see them develop as the season continues.

I'm gonna need the time stamps... ,😜

When I heard Mariah’s music, I was like ‘oh boy....’

Mr. & Mrs. Lease are the highlight of my week!

I honestly don’t get why you don’t like Deniss more - he’s an artistic skater, with gorgeous lines and choreography, interesting program choices - and as inconsistent and heart breaking as your other favorited. It seems like everything that you normally like in a skater! You really watched that tango SP and the only thing you had to say was about the costume?

When arethe videos coming that you spoke about last week? You said that there would be another video on zhenya going abck to eteri and soemthing about sasha not speaking to rozanov? Are you still gonna upload those videos?

The one show we are waiting for!!!!

“If I drank and did club drugs, I would want that shirt.” Made my night.....LOL!

Omg Dave, your parents are so freakin cute! All the feels!! Mama Lease bringing us the scoop on Igor! 😍

Your parents are priceless!!

Deniss Vasiljevs performed two outstanding programs and the only you have noticed was his costume? You guys know how to focus on crucial issues xD

I’ve been waiting for this all week!

I think Jason's split jumps into and out of 3F (?) might be my new favourite entrance into and out of a triple (beating out the StSq in and Twizzle out by barely). I'm so amazed I'm just thinking "BUT-WHAT-HOW?!"

I personally enjoyed another epic episode of Russian never ending drama😬😁. It is better than any Santa Barbara I have ever signed up to watch

Advice/Consulting agency for skaters... brilliant idea! Also a relocation one would be necessary. Thank you for the good moments you bring the skating fans!

At least !!! Thank you Dave & Jonathan 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

I love ABBA, and Mariah can really bring it to life, but the music edit really needs a lot of work. Personally, I think its missing Waterloo. Whenever I think of ABBA, my first thought is always Waterloo. Forget Dancing Queen, Open with Mama Mia, then Winner Takes all, then either finish with Thank You for the Music, Dancing Queen or Waterloo. but there's not enough time to work 4 pieces into it, 3 would work. I'm sure with the right costuming, and once the "tits and teeth" have been put onto the programme, it'll be fabulous.

Mariah needs to skate to Mariah (Butterfly) or Janet (My Need)

I really enjoyed seeing your parents. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ I’ve been tempted to sign up one of Igor’s classes to improve my coordination and fitness level but I’m a real beginner. I only got as far as Basic Skills 1 back in 1994.

That Vasilijev costume. My. Goodness.

Dave, ABBA was done by Shae Lynn Bourne, not Adam’s fault 🙃

All this time I have been thinking of Igor as a much older. old school Russian. Big surprise!

Oh man, Tyra has been a drag on DWTS. With so many couples, they can’t have extra host banter when it takes away from the judges’ time to comment. And yes! on the results shows. There were some great performances - dance and music - on those nights. A much simpler time 😂

Yay I've been waiting for this!

I think Brandon needs to throw my queen Alexa with a little more arc. But the throw triple loop they landed was huge and I love this pair already. With skaters scrambling for normal ice time this summer, it’s amazing Knierim & Frazier already look this comfortable together. Their twist has a great foundation and is coming along nicely. It had more amplitude in the LP, so I think they just need legit time to get used to the technique. He’s a superb lifter. I loved seeing Alexa trying many new things with lifts and I think they will continue to tinker to find what suits them best. And they can jump. Their identity for this year is people who are happy and appreciative to be able to skate. Alexa looks joyful in that program and it doesn’t feel romantic, it’s just lovely pair skating. Most of the music is quite grand which suits their elements. I like the contrast with the SP too. And their look together feels fresh.

Literally still at work but listening anyways because the store is empty 💁🏼‍♀️

I enjoyed the music of the top 2 US pairs, Knierim and Frazier and Calalang and Johnson, especially because every other pair was skating to warhorses. Alexa and Brandon looked strong for only having 3 or 4 months of real training together. I can't think of many new pairs that looked that good 4 months in. It was promising that their twist was bigger in the free skate than in the short, where they did it a bit more conservatively. It was still a great twist though considering they were meshing two different techniques. I like Dave's idea for their short, but I think combining two versions of one song in a short program would be too much. It's true Jessica has underrotation issues and I would hope that these virtual competitions are still looking closely at rotations. But I like their programs aside from the jump issues and relatively small throws, which aren't as strong as the rest of their pair elements, which are great. Alexa and Brandon are still meshing techniques on their throws. It looked like Alexa was doing different flip technique than what is natural to her, so they understandably have some gelling to do. But they're promising for sure. When they get more comfortable with lifts, I'd like for them to try that beautiful arched lift position Alexa did with Chris on the lasso lift in recent years before they took it out. The longer she and Brandon skate together, the better they will get at showing Alexa off to her full potential. I think they ultimately will end up being a stronger pair than Alexa and Chris. I agree that Tarah and Danny's issues aren't Dalilah's fault, and it feels like they're just changing something just because they've exhausted all other options. Cain and Leduc were more of the same, I felt. I was mostly into the top 2 pairs here.

I was interested in hearing about the difficulty Igor had in getting insurance for his online fitness classes. Obviously nobody can risk doing much of anything without liability insurance nowadays, but I would think more insurance companies would be learning how to do this type of coverage.

My week never feels complete unless I watch your current video in it's entirety..at some point :)

Hi Dave and Jonathan, random question: how do you guys feel about skaters wearing gloves as part of their costume? There isn’t one Russian lady who doesn’t wear gloves( the beilmanns and blade-grabbing?) but bradie and Mariah do without them. Do the gloves keep your hands safe?

Very out of date discussion about Bradie being older. Older than Mariah? Older than Alexa? Older than Madison? The skating world doesn’t need ageism to be relevant. Celebrating longevity ought not be limited to male skaters, pair teams, or dance teams alone. It is time to foster a positive environment for the adult female skaters. Allow young women to grow and thrive without such pejorative chatter. I realize skaters must learn to ignore the noise of the internet. ALL skaters deserve the respect to mature and thrive in their field of sport.

Hey my lovely boys, I've only had a chance to watch a few of the new programs, but I did see Jason's. Liked the short better than the long at first viewing (but my view may change. A complex piece of choreography will often grow on me, especially as it develops through the season). What music is Jason skating to his short program to? Is it "Nemesis" -- the piece Nathan used for his short in 2017-18 (now the theme music to the Reese Witherspoon/Jennifer Aniston series The Morning Show)? Sounded a lot like it.

Totally agree with Dave -- Jason's footwork sequence to Slaughter on 10th Avenue was everything!

Okay but does anyone actually know whats going on in Texas? I thought everyone including the novice and jrs with the Cains were all at the same rink? Did some of the seniors switch coaches, or did the cains leave the rink?

Dave are you watching big brother this summer? Would love to know your thoughts!

I really don't understand all the hate towards Nathan, not the worlds best skater, but his performances are still amazing, and the new ones r bomb imo

If Mariah Bell’s going to be doing an ABBA program, it better not include covers, “The Winner Takes It All” (if you want a sorrowful track, use “Slipping Through My Fingers” instead), and more than three cuts. Also, it’d be great if they utilized some of the lesser-known tracks, such as “Angel Eyes,” “If It Wasn’t For The Nights,” and “You And I.” Unfortunately, I have a feeling that they’ll do the complete opposite of everything I just stated and it’ll be a complete and utter disaster.

Oh my goodness, Dave! Your parents are amazing.

Debbie! Pete! Igor! The best :)

Thank you

When we did our little club virtual event , the live stream was fine - but every couple of weeks now some music company will pull the video based on rights - then they release it again in a couple of days. LOL.

South Korean skating is basically on black out due to the 'rona rise in the country. Not a zilch of fs news since July other than Young going back home. Not even program announcements...... I have a feeling that they may not even participate in the bogus GP series. Can't blame them though cuz apparently they're only relying on rinks far away from Seoul Edit: added more info

I love ABBA (have all the albums). I love Mariah's skating (my favorite American skater now). I loathe that program. The music is too chopped up and lacks a sufficient thematic impact. Plus, there is nothing ABBA-esque about it. Absolutely nothing.

You two are too FUNNY! love ya

JASON BROWN!!! all the points, give him everything, he has transcended everyone with his skating. His programs have me tuned in from the first note, watching every detail as he deftly performs them. He is perfection!!!

I'll donate for a Lisa McKinnon dress & whatever pants for Brandon. Lots of us would. Start a GoFundme!

I love coaching adults! I've mostly coached them on the learn to skate- pre competition level but definitely some of my favourite coaching

You're talking about Single White Female, David!

Dave, I love Single White Female with JJL and Bridget Fonda. It’s actually in my ancient DVD collection (remember those??!)- they don’t make films like that anymore! Makes me want to watch The Assassin and Dolores Claiborne now as well!

Boston is not part of the “super 8” events that folks can use to qualify to Nationals. Those events begin Nov. 9. - They are in: Blaine, Minn. Norwood, Mass, Spokane, Wash, Alpharetta, Ga., Ft Wayne Ind. Henderson, NV Leesburg, VA & Frisco TX. (And part of this is trying to avoid states (Cough Cough, California) that are just never going to open up again)

I think the quad thing could be a raf technique to keep Nathan safe in case he develops a funk with one of the quads. Don't focus on one. Keep it changing so Nathan doesn't dwell or get bored.

As a former figure skater, current short tracker who now spends all their time doing crossovers, I'm gonna take a look at Tracey's skater's crossovers

No mentioning about Elena radionova's retirement? She's truly underrated! I really enjoyed her performances, such a passionate and charming young lady, I wish her all the best

Is better analisys skating or the first quad of Vasiliev in this competition. Dennis is the example that in senior men, all skaters can learn and do quads.

Mr. & Mrs. Lease need to be on TSL more often. They need to do a "When Dave was Little" series.

Bradie looked injured to me...even her crossovers looked very labored and I immediately thought she must be injured. And that was 2 different rinks for the Texas people. There are multiple rinks in the Dallas area owned by the same company and look similar.

I want to see about what the US skating people that can contented with Russia. The other thing is that can people bring the ISU to change age rule from 15 to 18. There is some Russia coaches that want to change the age rule because of the quad jumping.

I love Dave's mom.

And as for DWTS...I miss the days when it was still 'Strictly Come Dancing'. With Bruno, Len, Arlene and Craig. It was soooo wholesome and british AND there was more emphasis on the dance and the kind of panto, suitable for all ages. I'm getting old.

Jonathan’s mean joke is me without filter

Beautiful parents

I want to try those Igor’s classes. At least the ones that somewhat work with my time zone! But I’m a little scared. Is it going be me working on my waltz jump and everyone else on the triple axel?

Alexia Paganini was 2nd at Nebelhorn and she didn't skate well at all. Can't figure that one out.

My two cents....I think everyone was really rough around the edges, I liked some better than others but they all need work. I'm not here to dump crap on one skater or another, it's a waste of time and ppl here are like Dems or GOP, arguing with them isn't going to change how they think. EVERYONE has fans and haters. I really hope all the skaters get their programs tuned up in time for their ONE grand prix event.

David I noticed you and Jonathan seem quite perturbed by Nathan Chen's performance. You really didn't have anything good to say about it,...the music, the skating, the jumps, the "artistry". Nothing was that good, you were both under-impressed! I wonder why. I know you don't like Nathan's style, or his look(s), and basically how he carries himself. But your reaction seemed more personal, like you didn't like him for some reason. And please don't tell me you are just being objective because if that were true you would have Something positive to say about his skating (he clearly out skated everyone here). So what's the beef? I'm just wondering...

Actually Adam choreographed Mariah's short

The first thing I thought after seeing deniss was like, "that's such a lambiel costume" wtf. I really do like him a lot though, that quad was a great step forwards.

Yes. The sport needs Mariah on the ice with Eunsoo. Too many besties and Rivals don’t swap recipes or braid each other’s hair. Like when Sasha clipped Michelle...twice pre Olympics. Send it. We need Jordan vs Isiah.

Oh my god I COMPLETELY forgot it was sunday then this came up!!!

10.10.2020, Ladies, 15-55MSK/14-55EU/13-55GB,SP. Show present - Elena Radionova, participants - Valieva, Trusova, Usachova, Frolova. Will not be at the competition - Medvedeva.

1,08,00 Mariah Bell

What about Karen Chen? Is she still competing?

I love your thoughts, but sometimes you expect too much from programs in this judging system. I fully agree there's always room for growth, but I don't know how much of a masterpiece you can expect out of Nathan when much of his program is taken up by quads. His programs are good and he's doing what it takes to win. In pairs, Alexa and Brandon look great together and they have good programs, especially for being new. I believe I saw Renee Roca in a photo working with them, not Benoit. Alexa is smiling more than ever, and when she looks at Brandon he smiles back in a way I thought Chris was often too shy to do. I like their rapport, and it will grow as they go along. I think they should be allowed to receive at least half of their funding from last season, especially since Alexa is reigning National Champion. It's already clear after a few months they deserve proper funding. Of course they're still learning together and merging techniques, and there are a couple of adjustments to be made on the lifts and throws, but their debut this early on went about as well as could be expected. For those who really follow pairs, you know most new pairs struggle with things like 1 arm lifts or clean twists. Alexa and Brandon are way ahead of the curve and it was a great first time out. Give them time because there's a lot of potential.

Ahhhhh Dave your mom and I share the same name!!

I had to pause you guys to watch Mariah Bell's ABBA program. And then I had to stop watching it. The music edits are so, so bad. And if I turned off the sound, I would have virtually no idea what she was skating to because there doesn't really appear to be much in the way of choreopgraphy.

Where can you find Mariah's ABBA video?

i have to disagree about bradie vs alexia though, like bradie alexia is still doing more of the same blah blah boring programs. alexia's packaging needs an upgrade too, it's like they're putting these boring generic programs that everyone else has done (beth hart, generic tango music, lalaland etc.) and i don't really know who the real alexia is. she could be pretty great if she figured out her point of view a little more. bradie kinda has that at the very least because of the confidence of being national champ and leading lady presumably.

I know the movie David. "Single White Female." Very odd. And Jonathan is correct. "Mamma Mia", that's so old. They could never do it again. They did that 10, 15 years ago. DWTS basically went down hill after Season 10.

You walk the Jason/Nathan tightrope beautifully and I completely agree with you. Nathan is amazing with the jumps, but Jason is interpretively brilliant. Justy as few can approach Nathan with the jumps, few can keep up with Jason in the non-jumping aspect of the sport.

Would mishin, if covid was not around, allow bradie to be his student and learn the 3A? He did have foreign students in the past.

JASON!!!!!!!!

I'm surprised you still think there is a real Nathan-Yuzuru rivalry. Hanyu can't beat Nathan. Only Nathan can beat Nathan. The talk about a quad axel is just that--talk.

Ladies 57:58

Aww, the parents...We had fun w Igor and Kristen at SA 07.."Go, Hackensack"..He aged in reverse.

Gentleman, I take issue with your critique of Nathan Chen's programs. One moment you say he is one of the greatest skaters of all time and the next moment you are saying you are completely underwhelmed. Last season all you could talk about was his costume. Really.....? You were in favor of more emphasis on performance and artistic presentation and less about the jumps, well OK. They have skewed the new rules in favor of Hanyu, which I personally feel is a little condescending to him but so be it. I am certain that Nathan will polish his programs to a brilliant finish, according to the new rules but I don't think that will be enough for you.....It is like you want Nathan to take all that brute talent and dedication and be someone else. Its like you want something nostalgic from him that he is just not giving you. Is it possible that you might be a bit contrarian ? Just saying..... Both of you are skating culture gurus and you do a great job of it. You are trend setters and taste makers and that in itself is a kind of power; all the more reason to be open and mindful. With all due respect, please put the knives away, people might get the wrong impression. .

Dave, isn't Mariah Bell 5'3"? You said "She is very tall".....that's tall?