TIME STAMPS 1:18 - Old competitions LADIES 2:44 - Judging for Ladies, Assistant Technical Specialist 5:34 - Under rotations! 6:17 - Bradie Tennell: bad under rotations, under rotated combination, tight jumps 8:01 - Importance of truthful judging for worlds, etc 8:45 - Tom Zakrajsek: COVID-19, Paige Rydberg 11:02 - Back to Tennell 11:26 - Strangeness of nationals: overinflation, positive about Zoom meetings 13:40 - Costumes: Bradie's backfiring jumpsuit and hair, packaging 16:08 - Alysa Liu: future with Jeremy, constant smile, uncalled under rotations, Olympics are possible but require hard work 20:39 - Gracie Gold: bad music, best inherent skating quality, improving 23:56 - Mariah Bell: struggling lately, Olympics are possible, judges tried to help but did not deliver 28:11 - Amber Glenn: good rotations!, needs better choreographer (Misha!), Cain's conflict of interest, 3A 34:05 - Amber vs Karen for world's team 34:30 - Karen Chen: beautiful free skate, cheated jumps 35:05 - Back to Amber vs Karen: Amber's better rotations, room to grow, should reward her changes; Karen's international favor 38:20 - Shin's calls 39:03 - Lindsay Thorngren: bad packaging and program for her light qualities 43:03 - Mitchell-Johannson Method (MJM) girls: tension and horrible skating skills 44:45 - Audrey Shin: pressure, bad jumps 46:04 - Cutout Audience 46:49 - Camera Angles PAIRS 47:28 - Alexa Knierim & Brandon Frazier: Alexa's excitement and personality, Brandon's brother-like role, good lifts, shaky jumps, developing connection, top group 53:58 - Jessica Calalang & Brian Johnson: Jessica's beautiful presentation and jumps, not succeed 55:22 - Ashley Cain-Gribble & Timothy LeDuc: better throw, not much potential, bad music cut 58:08 - Audrey Lu & Misha Mitrofanov: resize costume 59:07 - Olivia Serafini & Mervin Tran: need to fix lifts 59:53 - Emily Chan & Spencer Howe: Emily's beautiful skating/costume and bad tights 1:00:23 - Back to Mervin ICE DANCE 1:02:34 - Judy Bloomberg as Technical Specialist 1:03:44 - Kaitlin Hawayek Jean-Luc Baker 1:04:56 - Side track to gymnastics/Stella 1:06:20 - Caroline Green & Michael Parsons: interesting program 1:07:45 - Madison Hubbell & Zachary Donohue: costume failure, great skating skills 1:09:44 - Madison Chock & Evan Bates: better partnering 1:10:47 - Back to Hubbell & Donohue: predicted win, went safe in free dance, Hubbell's past with her brother 1:13:03 - Back to Chock & Bates: snake charmer program 1:14:28 - Hilariously bad choreography moment MEN 1:15:55 - Jason Brown: stunning Sinnerman program 1:16:47 - Horrible PCS judging: not giving Jason 10's! in comparison to Vincent and Nathan 1:20:43 - Nathan's costume 1:21:24 - Back to Jason: not getting rewarded for his great skating skills 1:22:01 - Nathan Chen: bad free skate and costuming, compared to other top men 1:24:28 - Vincent Zhou: improving short program 1:25:35 - Yaroslav Paniot: great jump technique, coming up to Jason 1:27:27 - Back to Jason: needs quad 1:28:34 - Back to Yaroslav: citizenship, good potential 1:29:00 - Todd Eldredge 1:30:12 - Back to Yaroslav: history, past Olympics 1:31:18 - Alex Krasnozhon 1:31:34 - Jimmy Ma: needs discipline, very talented 1:33:32 - Camden Pulkinen: not improving 1:34:04 - Back to Jason!: sophisticated, wonderful programs, Sandra/David free skate for Olympics 1:37:29 - Moment of Nationals: Jason Brown's short program! 1:37:50 - Lack of coach interaction 1:39:20 - Madison Chock's costume

The PCS scoring in the men's short was literally a crime. They should all have their judging credentials revoked if they think that Vincent and Jason were in the same freaking universe of skating skills and transitions and performance. I know it's all quad quad quads but they inflate everyone's PCS so high that there is just no way that Jason can gain any points - and it's wrong, because the difference between him and the rest of the field should be significantly greater. It doesn't reflect what is happening on the ice and it is so frustrating!! Jason's SP is so technically difficult outside the jumps - every single move is a transition, he literally didn't stop to breathe, the speed through the whole programme was incredible. That takes complete mastery of the blade and incredible fitness and technical ability. I also honestly think that Jason should have had 10s across the board for that SP. Genuinely, what more could you want? Why have 10s if you won't use them?? The FS was definitely not up to the same standard - It was pretty clear that it was the first outing, and Jason said in press after that he was trying to figure out the pace of it and I think that showed, he was a bit tentative in the beginning and just seemed a bit more in his head. And an audience, lack of audience really affected that programme in my opinion. Obviously there were jump errors, and not unexpected considering how cold Jason came into this comp. But from what I saw in practice, his quad toe is looking much more rotated than I've ever seen it which is a big improvement. I think with some more outings, there is potential in the programme. BUT, SINNERMAN'S LIST FOR THE OLYMPICS!!! I just think he needs to bring Schindler's List back for the Olys. He's keeping Sinnerman and it's the perfect fiery, dynamic short programme, and would be perfectly complimented by the melancholy, haunting, lyrical free. Also he's comfortable with the programme, they can continue to add in transitions and tweak the choreo. I think with the way things are with the pandemic we can't rely on next season going ahead as normal so I don't know if there would be enough outings of a new programme to get it to where you want it for the olympics and lets be real - the end of Schindler's List where he collapses to the ice out of that final spin? It has olympic moment written ALL over it!!!

Does anyone else think that Tanith’s commentating is sooooo goooood! I wish she could do the other categories.

Jonathan you were on FIRE this episode! I laughed out loud(in agreement) so many times, LOVED IT

Golden Moment: Nathan Chen mouthing f@@@ at the end of his long program. Runner Up: Tanith White fan girling on Madison Chock. 2 Minutes I will never recover: Andrea’s interview with Vincent after the short.

Alysa Liu was such a positive surprise. Not the complete doom we were expecting. The judges helped her out and were GENEROUS with the SP score, and then buried her after the free, strange that they turned on her like that, if they’d been a tiny bit more generous, she could have nabbed silver

Totally, emphatically agree about Jason Brown’s short program. Beyond fabulous! Also, I’ve reviewed the rules for spins and I just can’t figure out the justifications for level 3 and level 4 spin calls for some of the top skaters, particularly among the men. Could you consider doing a comparative piece explaining the differences?

Gracie has nothing to lose. She has already achieved so much, so I don’t know why she just doesn’t go out and have fun. She doesn’t look happy when she skates.

This was a wonderful segment...Jonathan was on fire! Loved it! My favorite moments of the week were Jason's spiral and Ina Bauer. Thank you, TSL!

Paniot’s free skate is the one place I really felt the lack of an audience. It was an impressive skate on its own, but that choreographic sequence at the end would have been next-level with an audience going wild for it.

OMG OMG OMG - I've been waiting for this!

Thank you for such an informative discussion, I have learned so much about figure skating from watching TSL!!

You took the words out of my mouth re Gracie's music choice. It can't be easy to skate a clean program when you're skating to a piece that speaks to your deepest struggles and traumas, especially when you know that pretty much everyone watching knows quite a bit of detail about what you've been through

I was looking forward to this and you did not disappoint! Dave, I appreciated your passion about the absurd judging and Jonathan’s rants were on point. Whoever helped Alyssa repackage needs to get in touch with Bradie.

I was the cutout holding Nathan Chen right next to my boyfriend’s cutout holding Vincent Zhou. We wanted to cheer them on. According to IFS Magazine, Nathan said his long program costume was something Shae pulled out of her closet. No wonder it looks nothing like what he’d wear...

Jonathan, this is the first time I have really enjoyed and appreciated H/B skating. It has very top notcht moments

Well, the judges for USFSA tests don’t require rotated doubles to pass tests, so why would they care if triples are rotated?

I'm not an expert but I loved Vincent short I felt it was the best I ever saw him skate

OMG guys!! I was searching for this video. Love from México!

Inspired now to rummage through my old VHS tapes in my loft. Great 90s stuff on there. Totally agree Gracie is the most talented. She is the one I enjoy watching most. Thanks for another great episode!

i just have to mention that tara and johnny’s commentary at this event was some of the worst i’ve ever heard from them, so negative and selective about seeing under rotations with some skaters but just ignoring them in others. i agree with you on amber, i would’ve loved to see her at worlds but both her and karen tend to be inconsistent so you really could’ve sent either and will get probably the same result but i think not having the depressing gravity song helped her a lot with the performance. also jason’s short is one of my fav programs of all time i love it so much

I only got to see bits and pieces that were uploaded on Utube as there wasn’t anyway to watch from UK. Wish the US and other countries would be like Russia and put theirs online for all countries to enjoy.

Also-I’m in LOVE with mariah’s free skate dress! So sad she didn’t do as well as we wanted, but she looked stunning!

Jonathan's rant about costumes at 1:23:00 honestly has me going YES YES and more YES. Nathan's programs are such a snooze and its a shame because he is such a brilliant athlete but gives zero attention to his costumes and choreography. The comment about "ballet dancers dont wear trash bags for a reason" is so accurate- the baggy costumes make his already iffy spins look worse. Whereas look at Jason- both his costumes were simple, but elegant and FITTED. It really maximised his performances- Nathan needs to magpie a thing or two from his teammate. Also, if I turned up to my ballet classes in ill-fitting shirts like Nate, you bet my ballet teacher would make me regret it.

Thank you for your service :-) None of my close friends are particularly interested in skating (though I am working on converting one of them into a Jason Brown fan), so I come here when I need someone else who's also going "Oh my god, did you see that" :D

I love camden and jason skating style.. But my number one love is yuzuru...the best.

Nathan's f-bomb at the end...LOL

Cannot believe you already have this up. I have not even finished watching the US nationals. How do you get so much work done so bloody fast Dave!? I just cannot keep up. Watch later.

Thank you for this!!!

I love Lisa McKinnon & Ladu dresses, the final flight of the ladies had some GORGEOUS dresses!!

was so waiting for you guys to interrogate the judge’s PCS for jason in the short program, DID NOT DISAPPOINT 😭

Mariah’s jump technique has always been weird... she wraps a lot and her landings are iffy most of the time with bending her leg too much. Internationally her GOEs are never that high. I think she’s very artistic though

I'm getting "There's A Reason Ballet Dancers Don't Wear Trash Bags" printed on a t-shirt

Jonathan is hitting the mark on Nathan today--that shoulder thing makes me want to cry. Also "there's a reason ballet dancers don't wear trash bags"!! I want so badly to like his work more than I do. I think he should watch his own tapes more. Loved Nathan's short program--but kept wanting to see Shoma doing it. Skating is sooo subjective.

Alexa and Brandon were phenomenal. Expectations rose after they won their first Grand Prix, and they were solid again here and delivered two beautiful skates. I like their packaging, energy, super strong element quality, and the confidence they have as a new pair. Alexa is just awesome. It's so impressive and rare for a new pair to do throws that much spring, height and distance. They're much more advanced than other US pairs in this area. They're going to keep getting better, and I fully agree they can already compete with Kirsten and Michael and even some other top pairs. I'm so glad they teamed up. A well deserved dominant win. Without a landed quad or clean program, Jason's not going to get a PCS edge much bigger than that despite his great skating. And Nathan does need a costume that shows his body line. Overall I loved this Nationals, despite some of the camera angles, and it gave hope that you can indeed run a major competition safely and successfully during this time.

If Bradie is going to go mod, we have to do something with her hair. You can't look like Swiss Miss or Heidi while looking like sexy mime. And then right on time you make that comment as well! LOL!

16:17 Alyssa Liu skated better than I've ever seen her skate. She's still a kid, she's a couple of months younger than my own daughter, and trying to find that space that ..... let's Britney this for a moment "I'm not girl, not yet a woman" ...... The Russian's package them as adults at age 9. I find that very unsettling. Alyssa is transitioning into adulthood, and she's growing, and her shape will change more. Forget the 3A and quad attempts, she has developed a sense of self, and awareness, and hopefully, this will continue to grow with her, and perhaps in 2 or 3 more years, she'll be a worthy "senior" ladies champion (again). I felt her skating this time around was so much better, it breathed better than I've ever seen before. I would love to see what could potentially happen if Jeremy was involved in the creative process for her in seasons to come. I think she (and Gracie for that matter) needs to watch the ice dancers, watch how they act and dance and perform, and make a killer music choice (with Jeremy) and let him choreograph it to suit her.

Thanks so much for calling out the judges!!! (And very rare Jonathan’s venting) The unfair and disproportionate PCS is the reason why we lose faith in this sport.

It was refreshing and humorous to listen to you. I was asking my boyfriend what was wrong with his Nathan’s shirt when I was watching him skate. I thought it was just me. Not! The shirt was awful.

It’s an improvement that Gracie didn’t pop anything at least.... gotta stay positive somehow. She looked so strong in practice :(

I thought I was imagining the under-rotations!! I bow to you both! Jonathan is on fire and on point today. 👏👏🔥👉

Unpopular opinion? I really don’t like Nathan’s long program- the whole thing- costume or lack thereof, snooze fest choreo. The music was so quiet all I heard was his skates on the ice and it was distracting! His technical content will always be spectacular, but in my opinion, to be an Olympic Champion, he needs a dynamic program to compete with what we saw Yuzu throw down at Japanese nationals. 🤷‍♀️

It’s my first time seeing all the American top men presenting their programs this season. Love Jason’s SP!! Glad to know this is what he plans to bring to olympics. I’m pleasantly surprised Vincent is more engaging in the programs, lots to polish up to do but he has all the time now that he’s taking a break from school. I’m a bit surprised by how lackluster Nathan’s programs are. At the start of the season I remember seeing lots of comments on the two masterpiece Nate has presented at the virtual comp. I wanted to wait until I can see all the top American men compete against each other so I didn’t check him out back then, had high expectations from all the fans buzzing but I must say I’m rather underwhelmed. Unlike Vincent’s situation, I think skipping on school might have a negative impact on Nathan, he seems drained and disengaged in this competition. Is the field too weak for him to get motivated? There’s something off about him that I can’t quite pin down on, but I think perhaps living a balanced school/skating life might be better for him.

Remember two years ago, when Bradie was doing triple lutz-triple loop? She may be (allegedly) training a triple axel, but we see no sign of the lutz-loop being restored.

One moment when I missed the public was at the end of H/D FP's Twizzels. Loved them!

Best Costume: Jason's black shirt & Jessica Callalang's FP dress

I hope Amber Glenn watches this for how beautiful David's defense of her is ❤️

Johnny made a comment that there should be more cameras so that the judges can have a better view of the skaters' jump. I think it was during Gabriel Izzo's short. Both Johnny and Tara seemed surprised at some of the scores but did not want to say anything more than what they said on air. Alyssa's skating looked better , but it seemed that the judges sent her a message that America needs her for the 3A and quads to compete with the Russians in the Olympics. I completely agree with Dave, C/B snake dance is still captivating. I also agree that Nathan will be behind Hanyu and Kolyada with that free program. I love that he won his 5th title but I would love to see Hanyu win his 3rd Olympic medal. However Kolyada's free is so captivating. Any chance that Paniot (? the one who got pewter) can be a threat next season?

OMGosh - My high school did the Disney trip as well! Loved it to so much. Also I had a sneaking suspicion there was another youtuber that thought you were sneaking videos from them because that person now had a watermark on their videos. I just thought they were being a little sus. This explains it. Weird they assumed they were the ONLY human able to get footage.

I'm so tired with Mariah and her lack of jump combo problem. Same thing happened to Eunsoo when she was with Rafael as well and it makes me wonder what the hell is the coaching team doing.

“Maybe put guyliner on Brandon” has been the quote that has gotten me through this week. 😂

'Nationals clean' was fascinating in light of the USFS fanzone live review feature. For the SP no elements were marked for review at all for Alysa or Gabriela Izzo. Bradie's 3Lz+3T was marked for review but ultimately did not get a call. All of Karen Chen's triple jumps were marked for review. Mariah's 3Lz was her only element marked for review. Amber's axel was marked for review. Interesting to have another window into how the sausage is made. Wish they made that data public in a permanent way.

Leaving the scoring aside, I have gained so much respect for Alysa Liu over the past year. She has grown so much as a skater and is maturing despite going through one of the toughest times as a teenage athlete, and she's done it all with a beautiful smile on her face. Seeing her struggle and work to overcome that has really impressed me, and I hope that she continues to find success as a senior skater.

If amber keeps skating like this, or getting better, I’m so excited to see what the future holds for her!!

Jason has class and long overdue for recognition. He is showing maturity in his skating. Far cry from all those who are just setting up jumps jumps jumps and no actual artistry. (if any of that makes sense) I have loved Jason since that Riverdance performance many years ago. Loving his maturity now and pray pray he gets it all what is deserved.

I was watching Kolyada’s long program for the thousandth time. Listen, every single man he competes against will just see their PCS pale in comparison. What a LOVELY LOVELY skater. It’s so exquisite! I say that here because I hope he can keep the technical fireworks strong enough to stay in contention for pretty much everything. Give it all to him! I say this loving Yuzuru and very much seeing why Nathan is so dominant.

Love old tapes!have loads of them too!

this sweater is peak vacation day quarantining

Dying w the opening re: Jeff D...LOL!!

Jason is the only one of the top three men whose programs I will watch again (and again and again for the SP). Glad for Vincent, he seems intelligent and is working hard, and obviously Nathan’s jumps are amazing, but in my mind Jason won the gold here. Totally agree with you guys that Nathan’s programs just seem like a placeholder this year - like he’s just treading water in this non-real season and working on something else behind the scenes. Sinnerman reminds me of a souped up Love is a B**** (Which is my favorite Jason program ever). And for what it’s worth I think he needs a new LP for the Olympic season. I wouldn’t go back to an old one there. In Ice Dance - totally agree with you guys. I’m hoping Madison and Evan get new programs for Olympic season. Can’t wait to see what they come up with.

I have a question for you guys. Which long program do you think Jason Brown for next season?

Tracy Wilson was actually at the event i believe! For like one sec she showed up on screen...

We're going in full lockdown and a curfew is imminent. Thank you Dave and Jonathan to bring us some levity.

I’m so sorry but I didn’t like either or bradie’s costumes... I think they keep getting worse and worse (in my personal opinion!!)

1:16:00 Jason has the thing you cannot teach. Enzman gave Jason 10s for Performance, Composition and Interpretation, and 9.75s for Skating Skills and Transitions.

Dave any more detail on the bun method? Would love to know.

Oh my gosh your opening soap opera gives me life!!!

Dave, are you maybe planning on inviting Dina Kuznetsova one more time? Your episode with her about 2018 Russian Nationals and their theatrics is such a gem. I would love to see her again ❤️

Dave, at least Chen shirt din't go up during the spins... I could't stand that....

Gracie has nothing to lose. She just needs to go in there and just go after it. She IS the most talented and is capable of winning, she just has to skate like she believes it. She looks to be in great shape. Hope that switch flips in this next year for her, she's still my fav. USA lady.

Kudos to Jonathan for defending the integrity of the Rachmaninov concerto. This usage was a vivisection of a musical masterpiece. I’m still waiting for something to even approach the beauty of Janet Lynn’s Ravel interpretation .....

Agree with the inflated scoring and under-rotate-gate. Speaking of 3L-3T... Dave! How would you compare Kristi Yamaguchi's 3L-3T during the 91-92 season against the under and suspected under rotated 3L-3T (like Brady's) at Nats? I mean, she wasn't the highest or most powerful looking jumper, but she landed that combo so successfully in many competitions (except when it turned into a sequence at 92 Nationals & the fall at 91 SA). When she executed them well, her blade looked to be facing the proper way despite her not having Midori Ito-sized power. How would you score her combo against how that combo was executed at this competition? Do you think if she were still competing (like Oksana Chusovitina in Gymnastics, who still vaults a double front), would she have made a formidable opponent (or made a strong case for podium finish) at the 2021 Nats. with a 3L-3T, and connecting her 3F-3T into a combo?

Great episode! And it was a great competition. Knierim and Frazier are so strong together. This partnership is elevating both of them and they will continue to grow. I was glad to hear your praise of them, including for smaller details like her exit out of that massive throw triple loop. They deserve the praise, they're coming along extremely well. I've thought for a while now she was one of the best pair girls in the world, so I'm very happy she has such a solid partner.

This is my opinion about the ladies: Bradie: Congrats to her for getting back the national champs, but she seriously needs to works on those combos, clearly under-rotated. And Girl.... please change the hairdo, matched it with the costumes at least. She has the potential but her packaging is always lacking. Amber: Good for her, great jumps, she's finally able to deliver 2 great performances (almost). To be honest, not a fan of her style (The music choices and the choreography). I keep comparing her with Liza Nugumanova's style in terms of music choices and packaging because she has a pop music choice but able to skate gracefully. Amber needs to have a new choreographer next season if she really wants to go to the Olympic. Karen: Finally!!!! She's back on the podium, but her under-rotation is keeping her off the 2nd or 1st. I feel she should be 2nd instead of Amber, Karen's PCS should be way higher than Amber's. or maybe Amber's PCS is too high (IMO). Alyssa: To be honest, I am shook! I didn't expect her to deliver this good. Of course, it was not her best performance, but she proved that she will work hard to get back to her form. Really interested to see her next season. Mariah: I think the ABBA's song should be banned from Figure Skating, I remember Mirai skated to similar music and had a meltdown during national. Mariah's jumps are scaring me now. It doesn't look effortless and there's always this pause before her jumps. I wonder what would be her next move.

Great episode guys!! I have many thoughts but one thing I’ll say about Amber Glenn is that while she may not have the most polished presentation, I feel she has (dare I say?) some of the best skating skills of the us ladies. There is just so much speed and power going into and out of her elements yet she has great control - very clear edges in her choreography. Kind of like a more polished version of Tonya Harding.

I went to rewatch Brady's SP after you mentioned the sparks on the "back" and now, that I noticed it really it's like 😳

Which one of amber’s choreographers were they talking about???

24:00 Mariah's music - I've discussed this before. It's the wrong edit. It could be so much better. Abba "could" work for her, but it has to be the correct edits, in the correct order. To be fair, the edit she used for Nationals was better than previous edits, but it's still like watching 7 year olds doing a hot ice. I would (if I were editing for her) open with Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie (if that riff is good enough for Madonna, it's good enough for Mariah). It's not too fast, it's got enough of a tempo to get the crowd (and judges) going. Mariah seems very attached to that particular version of Winner takes it all. It's workable as a middle section, and sometimes it's interesting to bring in a cover version. To end, she would need to consider the audience (and judges). In Europe, Abba's biggest song is Waterloo, it's what introduced them to us in 1974 at Eurovision. We over this side of the pond, will always think Waterloo and Dancing Queen as Abba's biggest tracks. If it's a homage to Abba, it would have to end with Waterloo. There's no other choice.

Where I get my actual technical information

What young American skater is inspired to skate to the sounds of Johnny and Tara’s voices in the background? God, they’re annoying.

So the mens team for the oly is set in my mind. Chen, Brown and Zhou. Some of those guys in the middle of the pack, had several years to upset Zhou and Brown and they keep making mistakes. Its sad to watch honestly

Here for the Bradie Party Celebrating Team USA’s 2021 National Champion! I’m inspired by her journey, and see an athlete who truly skates with heart and soul. Her ability to focus and persevere is balanced by an open-minded approach to challenges. Not content to repeat previous programs, she forged a path with her choreo and a coaching change towards new music, new forms, new performances. Her SP derives tremendous energy and verve from a musical counterpart I had never thought of but once I heard this particular “Florence” selection, it was a match made in SP heaven. Fun, lively, confident and sharp. The black costume enhanced with red accents. Very cool, very Bradie. Well done, indeed. Then her FS moved into completely new territory. Again, new to me music (and I am a musical omnivore constantly expanding my personal musical library), deftly composed by her choreo. Elegiac at first, then a moment’s pause, followed by a crescendo of sound and movement. The fabric coloration of the costume is sublime. Vulnerability meets strength. It’s an emotional program, daring in concept, art performed on ice. Brilliant. Admittedly, I’m amused by commentary about packaging, as if she, or any of the skaters for that matter, don’t know what to do with their own frisure or skin tone. After all, we live in the age of diversity and inclusion, so naturally, what an athlete/artist conveys is exactly what they choose to convey. Far be it from any of us to mistrust their abilities, as if this monetized chatter (ie your revenue stream) bears any import in this field of sport. Don’t let’s be disingenuous, your income stream depends upon commodification of the person and the monetized bravado of the internet. Bless your hearts, you try.

My problem with Bradie Tannel is that she always look lean forward... like people who are very tall walk down the streets. It distracts me from anything else... kinda Zagitova's "position" on her later years got me distracted from anything else (sorry I don't have a word for Zagitova's position when doing crossovers)

You *are* doing God's work, Dave :)

Also, Jason should train a quad flip!

I agree with Jonathan with Madison Hubbelll and Bradie's short costumes. The direction is good but the execution just went so completely wrong...

When I saw Hubbell's bodysuit, I was glad the Christmas wrapping dress was gone, but this was worse. Her costumes are too distracting although the freedance dress was okay. Agree with you on Tanith, she is a great commentator for ice dance.

Just when u think Nathan's costumes can not get any worse🤣 I don't want to say it but he ended up looking kinda...homeless...

Jason's short is absolutely stunning, but I really like the free as well. However, I think it's the kind of program that needs to be skated clean, with an audience, to have the maximum impact. I could totally see him having an Olympic moment with that, but he really needs to execute all the tricks.

Who is the woman in the opening that’s model posing?

dave's face talking about lindsay has me rolling

@jonathan - I am obsessed with that beautiful vase behind you.

Jonathan, how many pretty vases do you have? I've lost count

I just think if American Idol when I watch some of the skaters. MUSIC CHOICE! Abba for Mariah was a dismal choice.

Alysa Liu. Short program was fantastic and short was just ok. Bradie Short and long was fantastic was fantastic. I loved her skating was great. I really think that the ISU will call World as cancel

I’d like to see Gracie use a medley from Oklahoma! She looks a lot like Shirley Jones and could easily create the character. The Rodgers Hammerstein music with Shirley Jones’ voice would give the lightness and lift to let Gracie soar to the top. Just my opinion.

Can johnathan tell us more about the vase in the background

I didn't have a problem with Bradie's sexier black ensemble - it's better than the corny Disney princess stuff which she has outgrown - but she could really benefit from a stylist to put the entire package together better! Maybe dye her hair a hot blonde and put it in a more modern style and slap on a red lip with bold eyeliner! It would make such a big difference.

Also, TSL, for the upcoming Skate Canada Challenge episode, I know juniors isn't generally the focus, but it would be a crime if we didn't get Jonathan's reaction to the fourth-place junior dance team's _Cats_ program.

Pewter fashion moments : Jimmy Ma’s hoodie, VladiSWAGs.... whatever that was supposed to be for the free and Nathan’s Antonio Banderas/Shae Lynn rags