I feel like ai art will become so normal to see and find that actual art from real people will be thought of as ai, thats heartbreaking to hear from someone saying the time and effort you put into your art is fake.😕

This situation was so annoying because it was obviously traced but people were swearing up and down it wasn't 😭😭

I'm a decent-leveled artist, I've been accused of tracing over AI or using AI twice, both time the person ended up taking down their post because I actually stream so people defended me a lot and now I post a FULL process of everything I make. Part of why I was accused is because I dropped Twitter for ten days, training every day because I had enough of not being happy with what I did, and went back with a rendering level that had nothing to do with the one I had before (and people using my old SKETCHES vs my current full illustrations to prove the skill gap was too big). It's disheartening as an artist to see that more and more people are being wrongfully accused of this (not this person, tbh, I suspected her since day 1, because of the blue haired girl drawing, if you watch her right arm sleeve it goes behind her arm instead of on top of it and it makes no sense with the fabric/clothing cut), but it's tough for some artists that are going through this while they actually draw everything themselves. Honestly I'm part of the people that think that referencing (NOT TRACING) AI for poses and composition ideas is not a bad thing and can be pretty useful, and referencing (AGAIN NOT TRACING) the way AI shades actually helped me improve (I used to not use very dark and very light colors, which made my art look kinda dull. Now I ABUSE contrast, and this is because I studied a few AI pieces, also it showed me what NOT to do because god damn does AI mess up). I did not hide myself from that fact and anyone who followed my post during those accusations + all my friends know about this.

I prefer to call it "AI generated images" or "AI image" instead of AI art.

checked her account, and her most recent drawing is still traced AI. she’s actively choosing not to learn, doesn’t want to be better, and still wants to be a victim. she also posted her old REAL art, and it’s sad because she can clearly draw and her old art is so much more charming.

I feel like beginner/medium-level artists take "how to spot ai" way too seriously. Just because ai has one thing you do, or because one mistake they make you make it too, doesn't mean your art will be ai. Trust me, all artist knows what is ai and what is not. We know if you are a beginner making mistakes or not. We can see your process and preference in making art. Ai is not one thing, but the whole piece as a whole. It looks like a professional piece, but bland, no style, looks the same as every ai art. I think I've said this millions of times to younger artists, THERE IS NO WRONG WAY TO CREATE ART. Everyone is unique, have their own individual styles, and ai will never replace that. The amount of comments saying "I feel insecure because I did something ai would do" is insane.

the more i see videos like this one, the more i wish i could live in a reality where ai image generation was never invented, or at least never succeeded as an invention.

me knowing ill never be accused of tracing ai bc my art is ugly asf: 😎😎😎

People being worried about having their art mistaken as AI art is so funny to me. It's not hard to prove you're drawing it yourself. "ahh noo but my reputation is tarnished" posting proof is going to blow any accusations out of the water so fucking hard you'll rebound into art Jesus.

I saw it for myself The artist litteraly trace over AI generated pictures and don't bother to change the imperfections, as for exemple, the hands , weird AI hands but actually drawn

update on the artist: she posted on x a recording of her whole sketching process taking everyone's advice. whole screen, no bs (what most artists replying are saying, most artists are also supporting her ditching ai which is so wholesome to see instead of discouraging her to make art altogether)(it also actually looks way better) go check it out if you want to support artists ditching ai

dunno where these AI "artists" get the confidence to take commissions lmao. I'm here struggling with crippling imposter syndrome and feeling like my art will never be good enough to charge someone for. I am too lazy so I only draw a handful of times a year when I'm feeling extra motivated. most of my art live in my sketchbook never making it into the linework phase even. lmao the art process stops at sketching for me most of the time so it's hilarious to me how they have zero sketches to show and I'm here with a ton of sketches and almost no finished pieces,

"What if she really hates the undo button?" Right any artist no matter what skill level will undo ONE specific speck of line they didn't like regardless of whether it looked good or not. That's mostly why I rarely ever show any of my recorded art processes, a whole lotta undos and deleting of layers.

"There's my cat being an menace" I want the cat.

good news: it seems like she has taken criticism to heart! her recent posts show a genuine speedpaint of an organic sketch, as well as practicing poses from real photos.

Tracing AI art 1:1 with all of its mistakes is just ridiculous and something I'd think as a joke.

a really good tip i heard from another youtuber is to take a screenshot of artwork you suspect to be AI, and put the bright whites and etc under a teardropper, kinda like how u did to show the rendering. the colors will go absolutely NUTS and go all over the color wheel, which this person's work does. or at least you can tell they didnt bother going over white with white. EDIT: heyy so this isnt exactly foolproof lol. comments talked about it, but if the image is low quality you might get that. so at least you might wanna use other methods to tell as well!

If it warms anyone’s heart, I saw a post recently of DALL-E 3 and how it’s gotten worse. It went from being able to replicate traditional styles to a HYPER ai style with the same exact prompt. The databased don’t discriminate on where they take art from, therefore it trains on AI made images too. It’s like inbreeding and it will ruin the databases eventually. And futher when Nightshade and Glaze combine, you can start poisoning them even more for using your art. So I have hope! (Although one treat is that when companies like Adobe make databases from real art made with their programs. Those cannot be poisoned or collapsed so easily. WHICH IS SCARY)

I saw a meme on tumblr recently. "AI should do my dishes and laundry so that I can do art and write poetry, not do my art & poetry so I can do dishes/laundry" Now that I see all these people using AI this way, I can honestly feel that some of these "artists" see the creation process and accumulation of artistic skill as a chore (ie. dishes/laundry) and they really really don't enjoy it and would do everything in their power to avoid it. they really want to get to the fun part, which is posting it on the internet and getting praised. this is why I can't call them artists. If the end result and the fawning is what they want out of creating art, then they don't even have the slightest clue what being an artist means. I'd say they probably felt more like an actual artist making slime when they were in grade school. At least they enjoyed the process. I seriously don't know whether I should be mad at them or pity them. They want praise, but they have my pity instead.

To be fair at 4:40 this is something I as a beginner artist infact did, moved to shading sections of my drawing while leaving some areas completely uncolored. This artist seems to indeed be tracing AI but the method they used here isn't really proof of that, and tood artists don't use this method that much not because they can't but because it can result in inconsistencies.

As someone with ADD, I absolutely don't do my rendering in a sensible order. I render the parts I'm most interested in at that moment generally. My lines and rendering also tend to change a bit from piece to piece.

Not every artist can actually tell if you are just a beginner or using AI, so pro tip, save time lapses or step by step progress images of how you do your work. If you can stream or record the process instead, even better. There really are some people that will accuse you of using AI just for making beginner mistakes.

It's not there anymore because they deleted it but they did post a sketch to "prove" that they sketch their own stuff and it looked NOTHING like their other art. It looked really beginner level, face and body and then excused it with "oh i drew it within 20 minutes"

5:45 You explained the basic and fundamentals of concept of color theory easier than most tutorials I've seen. This video has helped me more despite it being about a topic of artist tracing AI.

Oh yeah I had a chat about this fraudster with my pals on discord, the effort they're putting in with this could easily go to making fully hand-made art. Ugh, they're clearly a beginner artist just from how they're rendering over AI images... and the chicken scratch video they posted to prove they're legit - proves nothing

3:48 I would like to just say to this whenever I draw a art piece I will draw it like this. I will work on one little piece of the hair and do all the shading for that and then I’ll go onto the next piece of hair and then I’ll do that and I’ll do that over and over again until the whole drawing is colored, not everybody draws the same way.

You pointed it out very well. People who trace ai art make art that requires a lot of skill but with a lot of small mistakes that someone with that amount of skill and experience wouldn't make. When you see something drawn literally perfectly but with such mistakes it is suspicious

It's literally so easy for them to prove themselve. Just post full time-lapse from sketch bc they always only post their rendering and coloring process smh either way, it's clear that they trace over AI art so they have nothing to prove.

It's funny seeing non artists in twitter defending the so called "artist" just because they put a proof that doesn't explain shit 😭😭 I saw they did a sketch but then again, the sketch never finishes (especially the face) and they never posts it finished?? Instead it was a different art entirely. And the reason I'm confident it was tracing is because meet the artist sheet. The bangs are inconsistent when usually artist tends to draw themselves consistently from hair and style for fashion. Tracing is okay for practice not to the point they make a commission out of it. I traced too but I used 3d model just to get a grasp of the poses and adds hair and clothes, since in the end, it's still your art. It's funny seeing them making a statement like the hand is from my own and proceeds to trace it (they can) but they also fucked it up with the perspective I gave the credit to sunvi for the colouring.

Although it's harder to fish out people who draw over ai 'art' , I feel there are clear signs, especially in the consistency of the the work, like it always looks like 2 people were drawing on the same canvas. Regardless its still bad cuz theyre essentially taking the stolen work of mutiple artists and drawing over it. 😪

I got 2 bachelors in art, and taking criticism is part of the art teritory. You dont go into art to be praised.... It's about self-improvement. If you can't handle people saying your art sucks then you shouldn't be an artist flat out.

im so sick of this.. cus of all this real artists r being accused of using AI all the time.. imagine staying up for days and nights to finish one piece of art and all u get is "AI".. this has happened to me several times and its really very frustrating..

not many people want to say it, but the main reason you can tell its traced over ai is because the coloring still looks amateurish. if her fundamentals were that good, then the rendering wouldnt be so bad

Has anyone who says/thinks "using AI for anatomy" is okay every heard of the numerous apps for figure posing that are literally designed for artists? Heck Clip Studio even has posable models built in. I'm just a guy who likes having a reasonable grasp of how things work & are made whether it is the CPU in my computer or the major steps that where involved in drawing & rigging the vtubers that I watch, yet I know about the tools that are meant for beginners to improve their anatomy skills while people who call themselves artists don't WTF. That said I don't know how artists feel about using something like the 3d models in Clip Studio for tracing rather than reference, as a layman it seems far less problematic, at least from a legal (mainly Copyright) perspective, than tracing AI NOTE: I am a Comp Sci Degree holder & though I have many qualms with current Copyright Law, to me current generative AI is generally just plagiarism & threfore Copyright Infringement with extra steps, though it is my understanding that tech companies & some governments disagree with my opinion of AI & how it operates

the way you had to add so many disclaimers to you explaining basic fundamentals hurts because I unfortunately had to engage with the supporters of the tracer, and so many of them would twist the things you say just to defend a fraud...

It looks like they used elements from MiniYen's (prolific AI user on DeviantArt) gallery. Compare the blue hair night city girl with the hundreds of city anime girl in a city on MiniYen's dA, the background is very much similar in style and colors. They must be very young and don't realize that using AI as "reference" is extremely recognizable to those with experience

This girl posted a whole book with her excuses for everything on twitter, and just refuses to record herself sketching anything This is the exact bs I've been worried about with AI art... as an artist who makes BOTH art and music... I'm so upset about this and how hard it is to avoid the possibility of lots people using ai to cheat their works This makes me feel so sad for where art is going :(

I'm glad this video reached me, recently I tried going for an art role for a server filled with artists. everyone seemed nice and I thought to myself "oh I would love to join in with convos and make new friends" I posted my art and some high level artists who were I'm guessing go through the process before they add in the users in discord channels. And I got accused of ai drawing for just "one" out of the 9 i posted. It got me really angry never in my life have i had my blood rage before I didn't lash out in the chat and instead I asked why... They straight up said "no" and 💀 Not even a convo to explain why I even had evidence of sketch anatomy from sketchbook to digital yes i still or used to go from sketching on book to taking a photo and improving it on screen. I admit that the dress i did was quickly shaded on book in more detail but i decided to go for a black grey deep bucket fill because i couldnt be asked and it was focused on the females face shape, hair and eyes more than the rest of the drawing. All i can do now is take it as a stepping stone to improve and hone my skills and technique. Get away from modern drawing and go for the traditional style. From now on i might just record my process or give picture process of everything i do. Though now im struggling mentally before and now this kinda just whiplash to the back and i'm trying to find motivation p.s Im also a college / university art student foundation going into games art after a gap year now. Its just heartbreaking

[edit: Finished revising. I know we can investigate better than this. Ty to anyone who reads this.] As an artist, I have an issue with this. Your nitpickings do not rule out that these could all be manual mistakes, or even more likely, an artist's preference. In fact, what if some artists are manually doing everything you pointed out, as a purely personal preference, just having been inspired by how AI art looks? Sound ridiculous? Then you haven't researched anything because that's exactly a study method that Whyt Manga published just 10 months ago. "STEAL from AI Art and become an art god" by Whyt, currently having 90k+ views means a lot of potential artists could've tried this out or are doing this. How have you actually proved tracing and ruled this out as a possibility just by "scrutinizing" images (really, you're just projecting your preferences) as a method of getting anywhere close to the facts? You aren't. I agree that this is a lose, lose situation, but setting up pressure for artists to "verify" themselves (by what standards btw? And how consistent is that going to be when practiced? With how quickly the tech is advancing you really think that won't be able to become fraudulent soon enough?) Not to mention an artist could also generate an image locally and tweak it following the traits and procedures you're talking about so it looks handmade but only took a small fraction of the time. How would you tell, then? It isn't until you can get actual data, actual evidence that this was using AI that you can then go and confront artists. Otherwise you're targeting artists who use a style that's been a target of AI farming and you're just going with your gut and preferences with poor reasoning and investigation methods. Even if all those images turn out to be 100% AI generated, that could only be trusted if either the person you're talking about has admitted to that or you verifiably found the actual source of the image. Your investigation approach would STILL not have gotten you anywhere other than a self-deception according to your biases. You labeling these aspects of the images as "sloppy" are not evidence, that's just your preference being projected. You being suspicious because someone could be just using a different process than what you label as "professional" isn't evidence of anything nor is it even reasonable because that's just a failure of imagination on your part. The ONLY reasonable way to see this kind of situation is if the visual choices look like the same patterns you see in AIGen. The hard truth of the matter is that your experience and biases aren't enough to tell the difference nowadays and it'll get even harder in the near future. Not even artists uploading WIP's will be good enough because of this reality. So stop doing it and stop promoting it with your platform. Stop endorsing "verifying AI usage" by shoehorning this tired, toxic, myopic, and elitist approach to "verify" someone's "skill level." You wanna find out if AI was used in this content? Actually investigate THAT with methods and tools that will ACTUALLY find out for sure. Meta-data, post history, tech that can source these images, and so on. But don't do this. This is what causes more drama, makes a hostile environment for new artists and those who do things different or have a different preference than you, and promotes a garbage culture overall.

Using AI to learn anatomy is like using a Wikipedia article as reference for poetry

As someone who renders sections at a time. I feel like this approach can spark a bad narrative. I have a more painting approach, but still add line here and there as needed. But since my process goes Sketch > Block out> some lines> Render my grayscale> Color... you get the point. Regardless of background i already know my characters environment. Im aiming to push values.

You might get to it, but another suspicious thing, look at the dates of their posts. They are posting one of these EVERY day, sometimes multiple times per day. If they were really making these, that would be crazy.

here's a tip for people who can't draw hands it's called oversized hoodies

The argument about rendering before coloring other parts is kinda... Ehhhh... I do that. I do not use multiply/overlay layers and i usually just wand tool select the skin first and paint it, THEN i select clothes and paint on separate layer. It's a skill issue, i can't use multiply for shading. Whenever i do the colors look horrible and i refuse to do it like that. I usually go eyes>skin>hair>clothes>background ALSO I KNOW PERSONALLY artists that can't line art for shit and their line work is messy, but their rendering is in fucking sane. Duh there are artists who chicken scratch whole line work, yet theie rendering and posing is on whole new level, i have seen them do poses looking so dynamic and natural, feeling like they are literally moving and messing with your brain. Those are all my issues with the arguments tbh.

Imo, tracing over AI art and adding your own style is fine. Just don’t go claiming that it is something you produced from scratch. And *especially* don’t do it for commissions, that is just ripping people off.

4:02 I understand that in the case of this artist in particular we can say that...but believe it or not there are plenty artists out there who are able to visualize their light source like that so if you personally watched the video and are one of those artists (like me) you're valid. Some of us have more skills in this area and less in another

no cuz why did u explain colour theory so well to the point i actually understand it 😂

Well the first 10 minutes of the video have nothing to do with color theory tbh and there's nothing strange about completing a character without the background. This is just a cell shaded waifu where the only interaction with her surroundings is one major light source. Now the real reason why most people don't fully render stuff like this in bits and pieces, is because it's impractical. It's just faster to first do your flats for characters in one go and then move on to the next layer. Also no one does their lighting 100% correctly. It's always a combination of approximation and stylistic choices. Real world lighting is extremely complicated and 100% math based with far too many variables to deal with. Art style in question is known for using a very simplified lighting mostly do to time constraints in anime/manga. Obv this is likely AI and what she is doing is a common way of faking progress pics.

While I agree this is definitely traced, I've seen many skilled non-AI artists post their rendered WIPs without backgrounds. I think the most simple reason is that they DID a color draft of their background, but for the screenshot WIP they simply hid it to make the rendering stand out. So I don't think that's necessarily a proof that someone is using AI, but in this case is definitely suspicious.

"When live gives me the undo button, i will abuse it" me too XD

Yeah clearly AI, I can tell because I am the other way around. I started using AI because because my favourite character has not enough art. Tried all the fluff but about a month ago I thought F*ck this shit and got myself a tablet and started drawing. Still very shitty but I get 20-30 likes on pixiv for my doodles but now I easily more of the AI fuckups I have not really noticed before

I really love how easily you explain it for the people who aren't actually into art. I can show this to my friends, and I know they'll understand what you mean! Thank you for putting the work in!

My only thing with this video is what about artists who don’t draw backgrounds. At 8:24 you were talking about how only “really experienced artists” can render their pieces without a background but that’s just not true. I personally can’t draw backgrounds for anything. So I usually just keep it white or do something simple like make the background a different color. It’s just a character design if you don’t draw backgrounds but you can still add the shading and make it look right without a background.

We artists are good at AI spotting BECAUSE we are able to tell what is a beginner mistake, and what is an AI fucking up the process of generation. I was a silly beginner who made mistakes with proportions all the damn time, but the truth of the matter is that I have never had shit blending weirdly into each other, since I, being human, knew that the hair and necklace of my emo wolf boy oc were separate things and wouldn’t have the same line going into each other. Basically, if a bunch of artists say something is AI generated, usually, it’s worth considering.

I don’t mind if AI can influence or inspire someone to draw something on there own. But when you’re just copy-paste AI Generated stuff and money off of it, that’s where I draw the line. Though who the hell would pay someone to make AI Art, just download them yourself.

Can AI art just die already?? Seriously, it's only done more HARM than Good. I'm so tired of artwork being fed to AI, people being accused of using AI, people USING AI and DENYING it etc etc It's only made our artist community worse, because you have to do so much just to make sure what you're looking at isn't AI or is, it sucks so bad..

imma be real i also do the background after if finshed the character XD

My opinion: A.I. art is cool, but people shouldn’t be making money off it because it's not theirs. That's like asking Bob Ross to make a painting and then selling said painting and claiming it as your own. Also, I don’t know why you'd trace A.I. art. At that point, just do A.I. generation...GOOFY.

I saw this happen live, she went from 200 to 3500 followers in the span of a day. Really made me wonder if the only way to succeed Is by going the dirty route...

Oh yeah, i was on that tweet drama, there is art piece u didnt show with a weird thumb and the artist said they "use IA to trace and they have said it clearly"

damn, hearing "ai usually only uses highly saturated colors in coloring" really made me feel insecure as i LOVE using saturated colors ._.

The stickman rendering ironically looks much better than the AI generated image

i do love being called a very skilled artist bc i love to render skin first. you're right though i always go through and add environmental colors in to help blend the figure and background together. most of my backgrounds are kinda abstract but i like to make sure all the colors mesh. their level of rendering and posing doesn't seem to match their skills with line work (you need to be good at lines somewhat, even if you don't use lineart, its one of the most fundamental parts of art), hands, and accessories/hair making no logical sense but being rendered in full detail as though it does where as most artists who just scribble something in that doesn't make sense don't bother detailing it or adding to it, they just kinda leave it abstract.

I felt like i was being gas lit, i was like "nah they might just be overreacting","maybe they are just that good" then the tweet saying "i use ai came out"

This is incredibly frustrating, many amazing artists use wiggly lines and thin line art. Even Kim Jung Gi who even has lines like that on his digital artworks. Muddy Colors? Have you seen Yohann Schepacz or Jama Jurabaev's digital art? It's almost all muddy but perfect and intentional. What I'm saying is, This tweet is so sure to call out these specific elements as something a beginner or a tracer would do. A total manipulation for young artists to completely avoid these intentional styles. This tweet is doing harm than good. example: Thin lines are even harder because the amount of detail and shape to complement on anatomy is challenging, so avoid that now? Plus many artists do not hold their pen the same way (range of motion). Why does this person have to tweet something trivial like this? i know AI is crap but please let's avoid these stupid arguments too without really backing it up with concrete examples.

I've practiced line art a lot, and it's gotten pretty good minus that I still need to do a lot of perspective and foreshadowing practice, but I still have a lot of trouble with lighting and shading which can still come out wonky at times. I'm... Still really worried that my wonky shading/lighting will get me accused of using ai...

I render like a cat chasing a laser pointer. It’s chaotic, but it’s me.

What bothered me the most is that that person acted like a victim... and then they said like "yes, I copy it, I don't care 🤪" ... like wtf~ It also discourages me as an artist that they have gained so many followers for something they didn't create... 😿

I hate that anything me and MANY artists make that takes long is just kinda hated sometimes but when people make ai art or trace it most will defend it.

my professor told us that if you make an artwork you should start with the background first before the subject render. if you render the subject first, you'll make it so intricate and detailed but when you half-ass the background last minute, the subject will end up standing out (in a way that the subject no longer belongs there). and i've learned so much from that simple yet important piece of information. i've always drawn my backgrounds last and learning that really helped blend my characters and backgrounds together. if you are that passionate into learning art, you don't need ai to make a good drawing. you just need to learn.

Your cat is an AI apologist.

Also if you can't see any of it it's usually because clip studio has a timelapse option. But it's weird they said they used obs--in that case you would see all of it. But Ipad users only option would be timelapse is they use clip studio paint. Trying to record anything while drawing on my older ipad pro makes it overheat and literally shut down on me twice, or issues where it didn't record, as well as drain your battery insanely fast. Timelapse at least it saves it IN the document so as long as your file saves so does the timelapse! But yeah this artist I knew was fucked right away. Just wanting you give a heads up about some stuff you pointed out because lots of artists do that stuff and not everyone draws on pc. (though in this case they lied, since they say they used obs.)

The discrepancies definitely suggest it was AI that they then traced. The devil's in the details. However, I think it's a little bit off to suggest that because someone can't draw hands, they can't render without a background. I personally can't draw hands to save my life. However, I'm really good at rendering, even without a background; mainly, I spent far more time rendering an unfinished product to avoid drawing hands...

My mom bought me a book for my birthday off the TikTok shop and i noticed it was Ai (more fingers than needed, off eye placements, etc etc) and when i pointed it out she fought tooth and nail about it. Next she showed me a artist on TikTok who was posting MORE Ai art (it’s taken over her FYP). She messaged the Poser and blah blah blah, talked to them about giving me ‘Art tutoring’ and when I was hesitant to bring up my own concerns she blew up at me and told me she wouldn’t support me while supporting Ai Art. 💀🙏

Aw man, i saw them in a discord server asking for art trades and i almost fell for it, but the way they rendered the skin but had no clue about how clothing works just rang a bell for me... im a higher level artist and i know for a fact that someone who has that level of rendering should know basic rules of clothing folds ... they're actively trying to scam people to draw for them that way i guess? The sad part is they get a lot of recognition and people are actually Falling for the art trades they offer... This pisses me of so much as an artist

i think it wouldnt have been so bad if they didnt took comissions and just did it for fun/practise together with learning anatomy

what is with the 2 accounts under every thread defending this like they're being paid

I still don't get, how anyone can find tracing AI Art fun

"when life gives me the undo button , i'll abuse it" never said something so real

For me if AI art is used if its used in a sorta "ha ha funny" as in just a fun way and not used in a sorta fraud way as in taking talent away from artists.

3:57 WAIT that what i do 💀😭, i just completely uses shades shadow and lighting immediately after i use base color (The result are lighting nonsense, so eh..) One of the art just pure arse white bg and i added blue as if its night time 💀, make sense for me, im not pro-pro

Im actually learning a lot about art from this 😅. Ik me, as a beginning artist, I photo bash references, trace, then add some details, move things around and do all my own coloring and shading, and that process makes me feel kinda guilty, but if someone is completely tracing AI art it kinda defeats the point imo

She has started to improve her own drawings instead of relying on AI, she is actually a decent artist and I hope that she stops tracing and realises her skill.

I don’t see the issue in tracing Ai, not like someone actually put thought into making it- better to trace a robot than a real person. (I will be retracting this statement the very second Ai gains full sentience and gets sad abt being traced, though.)

I'm sorry but you have obvious traced art on twitter yourself with no statement saying that it is. I don't want to listen to someone be so critical over someone tracing regardless of AI being used or not if you are also tracing. Also a persons art process is unique to they're own. Just because someone sections off parts of the painting is not a sign of being unprofessional. Hell, the person in the video you are talking about didn't even hide it, they said they use AI in they're process.

The Undo button in traditional art is called an Eraser😅 Qell, not during coloring of course but when making a mistake then, there often is a way to save it anyway, but if it is beyond saving, then there is just the options of either start over or give up ^^

4:14 just felt like saying that this could be easily justifiable if someone just hid the other layers and let only the skin to post 🙏 (not defending at all, just wanted to say what came to my mind)

15:52 do people actually use ai for anatomy??😂

you can use ai for art *But make sure to use it as a skeloton like use it as insperation for your new art that you create your own rather than let the ai do it for you*

Just to make sure everyone understand, the point she make aren't absolute. Just like she said it herself. There are many artist who are shit at making background . So, many just draw picture with white void as background. . . And people do forgot pressing record button all the time. Some artist, even famouse one like kantoku do color part by part. Like skin first, hair first or clothes first complete with proper shading and highlights before there is any background.

I posted some concept sketches on Reddit earlier this week and somebody very agressively accused me of using AI because they didn't like the way my hands looked. I stood my ground and very quickly they silently disappeared after a ton of backlash. As you said, it's very easy to prove you're a human artist. My tip to any artist who's afraid of being accused of using AI: *there's no need to panic, stay confident and stand up to accusers* . Question them on why they think your work is AI and fire back hard proof and responses, accusers will tend to fall apart after one or two questions. Don't feel the need to justify anything if they get rude, you don't own them anything. The community will always have your back on this.

What's the crime here exactly? Many animators and artists use rotoscoping and even trace over 3D models to achieve more realistic results gantz is a manga that does this many times there's even blogs about how the main artist would be nothing with out his team that sets up 3d models to trace over for him. I don't really see where tracing over anything no matter how it's generated is bad.

it would be okay if they werent posting their traced art online and opening comms...

That's why i usually have a layer below the sketches and actual line art that shows the environment I'm using

I am a self taught artist myself. I used many KZfaq tutorials to understand how rendering and anatomy works. I’ve spent the past 2-3 years to get to a skill level where my art was “decent enough.” It’s incredibly disheartening to know that with AI images, it becomes increasingly more difficult for people to trust whether a person actually drew something. I’ve started commissions in return for game currency recently (going pretty smoothly), and I always show my clients the sketch. Knowing that people will trace over these AI generated images to profit off of is just morally wrong to me. I feel like in a way, it’s kicking down the artist who are actually genuine. I’m even suspicious my friend is tracing over AI images, and it’s worse because they are posting it on KZfaq. I know AI images aren’t going anywhere, but it would be lovely if we could all go and support genuine and talented artists!

I love the fact that artists are upset at ai art and that art colleges are teaching artists how to properly use ai to assist artists 🤣🤣

so HERE is my question. What are the thoughts on people who will create ai art as a REFERENCE for something else? I know there are a lot of people who can not afford to pay someone to create reference art to then create the base line of their vtuber so they will turn to ai art to bring their description to life and ask for something similar. Not exactly whats shown, but just so they can get something as close to what they want as possible to give the artist a picture to go off of? This is something im fine with. Especially since a lot of the people that want this are not artistic at all so they cant come up with a concept on their own due to lack of knowing how to draw.

i feel like tracing ai pictures is not so bad in my opinion but only if its not sold as a commission or if its rendered by a real person or stuff like that, ai ‘art’ is just a mix of art from other artists the model learned to use to create their own pictures, that makes it lose its original ‘soul’ and calling it art does not fit well too for me as it has no process or a real emotion behind it and it may feel lifeless. When tracing it and maybe coloring or rendering it, it may look a bit off or something similar but it still has an artist behind it coloring the traced piece, giving it a hint of soul and other things, this is all my opinion too as art is different for everyone 4:32 and quick theory on that, they maybe have changed the background colors multiple times to see if it matched well to their idea of the background, and then changed it to white to post it. May be a dumb theory but thats what i can come up with to explain that. 11:01 same thing here, in a gray background it will make more sense as that greyish color looks more saturated on a more gray background! as i tried guessing before, it may be the fact that they used a different colored background and changed it to white to post it 12:39 then there the background was supposed to be white, so they didn’t need to change it. On the other drawing i think they may have redrew the piece to record the timelapse. The rendering skin first was probably because they like it more in that way as their own process of rendering, all just a guess! taking commissions and other stuff with AI is not a good thing for me, as you are gonna sell pictures not made by you but multiple people’s drawings and in a way i see it as somewhat ‘scam’ as you are getting paid for something you got on a generator by typing some words. Except if traced and rendered, it does not feel like its much worse, just if you tell the customer if they may like it or not if yes. Hiding it is a really bad thing if someone is paying you thinking it is all handmade. (i need to yap less)

people need to just call them self an ai artist if they do this shit..

I'm a shitty artist but I could TELL they painted over ai. They showed the color phase only and I could NOT SEE any of the sketch face, the way the hands and feet were painted expertly made it super weirder. I suck at anatomy, I suck at hands, and I've been inconsistent since I was young and still am, but you can freaking *tell* when it's ai. You really can. It was 100% traced. I even told them to do a timelapse or recording with their sketch included. If they need help with anatomy, clip studio has 3d models you can download and pose free on your own if you struggle with it.