Sick of this shit they give opportunities to ppl who are bound to mess up

he's said he's sick of the way the industry works now, just two chords playing over and over, so i guess he stopped trying

@@JusTVIDSE I remember him saying this. He's sick of the way the music industry works, so he decides to make it even more worse? Screw him bruh

@@Aywusgod problem is all that counts in this society is Money and complex music isn't commercially succesful especially in the times of playlists. If you want to make a living of real music you have to play shows all the time and you can barely live of it.

@@gehteuchnichtsan7911 I feel u, but in Pvlace's position I wouldn't really give a shit tbh. You make big money making music. That's the dream for all of us. I'd kill to be stuck in a studio everyday, even if it's just creating 2 chord 8 bar loops. You could still make it fun. And you could just make that creative shit on the side. Pvlace threw everything away

I swear… I can’t believe it.

Can’t believe PVLACE would throw his career away like this 😭 just fucking credit your homie

@@colinf0x57 thats being greedy 🤷🏽‍♂️

I remember those cook up vlogs shit was inspiring fr Sad seeing how their relationship fell apart

hope they don't remove it

Fr Man Smh

exactly this was pure greed, laziness and lack of respect. just a sad situation all around, hope gunboi can get the justice he deserves

Same happened to me, guy wanted to buy the beat, made the song but just couldn’t pay for it. Always had excuse for not paying.

And a lot of your favourites have been doing it since day one.

Not even beats.. Melodies.. How lazy you have to bee to struggle to find 4 nice chords?

Prove of the ALECTO pleas

"the Michael Liangelo"? Who said this lol most of his melodies were sounding like some medieval gettogether. Everytime he showed loops there were like 2 out of 20 that genuinely catched me.

Michael Liangelo? I think you meant Michelangelo lol

@@infrarot4052 bruh his loop on k like a russian is crazy asf

@@kago1739 😂😂😂

hahha niemand gibt einen fick auf rin hahah

@@sbjncn ok

Haha huge opportunity

@@sbjncn wtf

@@colinmason7613 bruder pvlace hat für thugger, juice und all die produziert der juckt sich nicht für rin

yeah thats the easiest way to tell. just check the flp date. lol

big facts bro i render out shit too 💯💯💯💯

I dont render my midis in the beat project, I do that when I export the beat, then I arrange the loop and export It but also a lot of people do the other thing

@@JoJoBeats6670 I used to do the same now its a mix of both but also I always sample out the midi so in case of a vst not working or any issues i have that midi in sample form. And I do the zip loop package when I can remember to. That zip loop package is dope cus it puts all the sounds,samples, vocal takes all in a zip pack.

Work only with ppl where u get a good vibe not the ones u feel where it gotta be forced

he's just money hungry and probably saw beat making as "easy money". hes in it for the wrong reasons and now ppl are clapping back on his fakeness.

@@3moryk most people nowadays are in music for the wrong reasons and especially as rap producers/loop makers!!

some people would rather party drink and do drugs

Safest way

or if you use loops, don't sell the beat

facts. also always complained in general. mostly about how his "simple 2 note beats" would place and make thousands instead of the ones he works hard on (imagine complaining about making $1-5k from 5-10 minutes of work). turns out, he barely worked hard at all.

@@3moryk *2 chord beats

He actually would say he doesn’t care if people steal his packs for free

@@noone-dq2qz no you got it wrong. He wouldn’t care if someone DOWNLOADED “his“ packs for free but he would still insist on the royalty share if the beat would get placed.

@RelaxWithBrando what’s your point? Some people don’t think the way you do and sell loops to make money. It’s their melody and right to share them. And nobody wants your loops so no worries there my guy :)

Fck pvlace at this point

Feels like everyone with public success gets a sudden urge to convince people they came from nothing, and it's almost never the case

@@SloanBellamy I agree, but most EU producers only make it big in their respective countries at best, which is still really small time compared to the American scene. The fact that Pvlace got so deep into the American Hip Hop industry as a European kid basically is very impressive (tho not so much anymore).

This is the rap game. All the big artists have scammed someone at some point and not cared about it.

Agreed

Fr ich bin krass geschockt, und dann noch Fernser Team zu sich einladen und eigene Serie produzieren lassen...

@@6mane Größenwahn ;)

@@6mane und in so interviews bullshit reden, digga wie erbärmlich ist das denn

@@6mane er ist halt immer noch ein geisteskranker producer aber natürlich eklige aktion

and to be honest to this day i dont think wheezy stole i feel like pvlace gave it to him and expected something in return and got nothing

Even tho you have to admit that the german used in the message was definitely written by google translator or sum. this doesnt sound like a native german wrote it, seems kind of fake to me. im not trying to defend anyone, i just want to point out that this message seemed a little sus to me

@@yungwee3380 I agree. even for an angry person who rushes a text message, there are lots of unusual mistakes like "B" instead of "ß" and missing Umlaute. ive seen this errors before with non-native speakers who have a different language keyboard setup (they dont have ß so they substitute with B). even a translation program wouldn't put B instead of ß. my conclusion is, the sender is a very bad german speaker and doesn't natively use german keyboard setup. definitely sus message and not something you would expect from a manager or other official source.

@@jekkt why do people use capital B if this german symbol can be transcripted like "ss" or am i wrong?

@@trueshaper1411 yes it should be like that

Post means mail in German. So he’s probably getting sued or something and the letter is on its way.

thats how you do it!!!!! people get mad when you bring out the paper work docusign account for me

it is upon us lmao

MG predicted this almost exactly down to the smallest detail of how it happened. Crazy

the day of reckoning is upon him. imagine having to explain this to ur parents

@@pillpoppa exactly! 😤😤

@@pillpoppa or ur whole village in Germany smh

Sincerity is absent in our zeitgeist. Chivalry is dead. Sarcasm is our first language. A generation fueled by hatred, greed and disgust. L L

@@tryingtotryistrying are you smokin dust

@@tryingtotryistrying 😐

@@tryingtotryistrying This....this is why you don't get invited to parties.

I remember watching his producergrind and being all secretive about revealing his master chain.bros master is prob just Gunboi this whole time 😂

my thoughts exactly

Same

Thank you man. Moist critikal is legend.

Damn bro

Bro, take that shit to court if it made any money. That sucks

Take that as lesson. Never give anything away for free

You can sue them, what you need to prove in court is that they listened to your track. You already have proof. They have no case, you do.

@hansmemling2311 it would have to be internationally since I live in US or I would have to go to Serbia. Too much hassle for probably not much of money.

Yuh his shit was damn near worse bro just put his tag on mp3s and sold them

exactly, he was a huge influence for me as a producer aswell. so sad to see it wasn’t him at all.

So he just stole the whole beat? No changes to it?

@@BblCharlieee yes niko just downloaded beats from a sample library and put his tag on them and sold em

@@KeegTheDemon oh god, so awful 😣

crazy to see you here, hi

@@RealChialike he said that he paid someone on the darknet to find out the e-mail account of Southside via Instagram and then he sent Southside a package full of loops.

@@BenBER527 Oh shit!!

he not even 808 mafia anymore they booted him lol it still says it on his bio but im sure he slow asl

@masonunterstrich to be fair, he got signed to 808 mafia before he worked with gunboi. All the loops he made by himself.

@@studioonewrld yes

That looked shady af haha

At that Point don't but his sample packs

I think you are talking about the „deconstructed“ packs. These loops were already used in songs and he put the presets, midi etc in there. But doesn’t change that he’s shady

It's standard practice for sample packs that you can use them as parts of songs, but you can't resell them, or upload the whole pack where people can get it for free. Unfortunately, there are people that buy sample packs and then upload the beats to Spotify etc in order to pass them off as their own work and to get paid for it.

@@AutPen38 you should be to get a sample or loop cleared and share 50/50. If you can't even do that then there's no point of even buying a pack.

oh hell no

@@d3rduck Just giving advice why it's a problem. Timbaland sad the same thing that we don't have Producer's anymore. Both Timbo and Swizz beats both agreed that we need more Producer's as there ja too many beat makers. There is a big difference between real Producer's and beat makers as the market is very over saturated with track makers.

This is a fucking braindead take

big facts bro this era dead ima bring it back to life 💯💯💯💯

​@@ronnellblack1827 6 months later you did fuc-all

This happens to every loopmaker atleast once in their career especially when you upcoming. Its actually a normal thing to not get credited and payed and its crazy

every producer will encounter this. I already had people shamelessly rip my beats off youtube, record songs, and then put them on spotify without credit or pay.

The only problem here…stop being a “loop maker” and especially stop uploading loops to splice then expecting credit later. It’s literally in the terms of use that they’re “royalty free” and “clearance free” when they come from splice. Can’t come back later and ask for money under those circumstances. Smh

@@zigafide that’s the most common thing as a producer. But this is way worst, because he’s a famous producer doing it. And this producers run up numbers and make a lot of money.

@@2gunzfilms425 man how slow you are? Nobody here talking about splice and it dosnt matter how we call us. „Loopmaker“ „producer“ the name is completely unnecessary in this topic. Its about getting no credit and no royalties for sending out to bigger producers who give af about the smaller unknown producers

A chance of getting ripped off 😵

@@Weaverbeats seriously tho 😂

So weird right. I thought Pvlace always appeared very intelligent. Never thought he'd be so stupid to do these things, and so recklessly

prob a mix of greed and carelessness thinking nobody would notice or if they did notice wouldnt care because of all the social media goodwill he built himself the past few years. pretty sad and pathetic honestly considering the brock luker situation just a year ago come to find out mans the same piece of shit

Right cause all of them have producers that they pay or at least I hope they pay their producers equally.

I doubt it lol

Their videos of them making their own beats

They do but a lot of it is just using their name for the hit. Most big names do the same thing murda Mike will Mustard etc. They can make stuff but getting the bag is easier

xDDDDDDDDDD

😂😂 I knew it was gonna happen

@@shinji1264 how so?

@@learn2xpand862 money

Pvlace is a traitor

why do u think he always had to have gunboi or alecto around him? cause they WERE Pvlace

Yeah at this point I just think we misunderstood Pvlace for being a solo producer. It’s actually a producerboygroup. Too bad he didn’t tell anyone

Right

Gunboi's beats/loops sound like Pvlace-style shit. Seems like he was his ghost producer for many years