This can't be good.... || Wavegrove Islander

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INDEX:
00:00 Intro
01:25 The U.I
02:04 Disclosure
02:42 Testing
03:30 Level or sound?
04:41 Coloring
05:47 Wow
06:43 The problem with most simulations...
07:44 This is really cool!
08:14 Feedback or Feed Forward?
10:50 Conclusion
12:18 Support me!

Пікірлер: 171

@niklassilen4313 Жыл бұрын

Pro tip: to get lower ratio, reduce the incoming audio signal level into the compressor and use deeper threshold instead. (use the Level Cal knob, top right corner)

@Morjensful Жыл бұрын

This. A vari mu has a level dependant ratio, that is why this works.

@tunesquid Жыл бұрын

First one in a long time where I said "wow" out loud. Then said it a few more times during the demo. I haven't bought anything in a long time but I think I may just buy this. I'm impressed.

@tx3851 Жыл бұрын

There is a trial....just downloaded it....Loved your enthusiasm with this one!

@Ndumixo Жыл бұрын

You're the only plugin reviewer that reviews plugins with some technical knowledge in layman's terms. Your work is appreciated 👍👍

@Gamervidsman2000 Жыл бұрын

He's good, but... Panorama Mixing & Mastering > White Sea Stuido Not even close.

@NovianLeVanMusic Жыл бұрын

I prefer the White Noise Audio channel over (this guy's) White Sea Studio channel, mostly because of this guy's bleh personality and limited interactivity with commenters. And then of course there's Dan Worrall and Mixing with Mike.

@GarotMichaelConklin Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video, I picked this up a few weeks back and it’s literally on every buss track I use now… such great character.

@drrodopszin Жыл бұрын

The "Look at this! Woah" moment sent my dog into barking mode 😆. I am also going to try this thing out because the coloring sounded amazing even on my crappy laptop speakers.

@michaellarsen180 Жыл бұрын

i LOVE the sound of this plugin. Going on the wishlist.

@blue.sunset Жыл бұрын

Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis

@marvinrockon Жыл бұрын

The rather subtle saturation and it's coloration is reminding me of Kush plugins. Didn't heard about that company before, but damn, thats one hell of a great plugin.

@DaveLennonCopeland Жыл бұрын

Whoa! Looks cool, but yeah, yet another fancy compressor... 😃🎶🎵

@NYJhono Жыл бұрын

Wooooo! Two seconds in and I’m already super excited at a varis plugin!! Hell yeah!!!

@TK-yu2pv Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great song and gorgeous sounding analog multitrack.

@TheSakuraGumiLTD Жыл бұрын

They did it so well!!! Might pay more attention to their hardware more now... feeling this one lot!!!

@mattymenck Жыл бұрын

you should do so..

@ashcatlt Жыл бұрын

Simple digital feedback usually needs at least a one sample delay. For the most part, that's not enough to mention, but it's definitely a longer delay than you'd get in analog feedback. Course, feedback compression is mathematically indistinguishable from feedforward compression with a clean blend, which requires no delay at all.

@craigjunner3333 Жыл бұрын

Nice review (as always). Best remix of Sandstorm by far 🙂

@ramspencer5492 Жыл бұрын

This one seems really solid. Feels pretty convincing. Would be cool to be able to slight adjust the ratio because.... Well it is a plugin.

@sottovoce4 11 ай бұрын

Oh man..... I can't decide if this or the Magic Death Eye Stereo is the way to go. Im leaning towards Islander just because its newer and MDE is a couple years older and Im guessing the technology might be better as plugins get better year to year. Any thoughts??

@musicproductionbrauns2594 Жыл бұрын

9:34 yes imagine using a sidechain as the detection and using it self as the sidechain post FX ( you can actual route it in a daw and tranform a feed forward to a feed back)

@tekis0 Жыл бұрын

Great sounding track, White Sea!

@rezaway3192 Жыл бұрын

love the graphic or design of vst

@cheadlejuice-musicproducti5875 Жыл бұрын

It has a great sound. Definitely not like any other I have. The DEMO only lasts 3 min on my system then just zero outs. No warning. It says 10 min for the demo on the plugin to start and on the website

@leonskepticofficial7838 Жыл бұрын

I can answer about feedback compression in digital its a sum at the end of the algorithm in feed forward its input * compressed input in feedback its output * compressed input (laymans terms much more complex if you look at the whole algo)

@Falkon303 Жыл бұрын

I loved that version of Sandstorm.

@wrkdat Жыл бұрын

can anyone educate me if they implemented autogain or not? thx in advance.

@michaelwirth6843 Жыл бұрын

It really seems special!

@Felix00007 Жыл бұрын

song name Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis

@michealprater Жыл бұрын

That thing sounds divine!!!

@matrixate Жыл бұрын

Kazrog's got something up it's sleeve...interesting that this plugin is being reviewed. I'd hold on spending money on this until Kazrog releases their next plugin.

@robertmccormick1029 Жыл бұрын

Oh? I use their transformer and vintage compressor plugs. I love them. Thanks for the heads up.

@taylormarchand2497 Жыл бұрын

Kazorg is doing an optical compressor

@shan5445 Жыл бұрын

Sounds really really good

@wanderingjuniper Жыл бұрын

that's a lovely mix

@jackalisland Жыл бұрын

Is it better than Tokyo Dawn's Molot?

@vincentaugustus2748 Жыл бұрын

Why are there not enough Shure level loc style limiters, the only one I can find is devil loc, and maybe decapitator if you’re reaching, seems like there should be more competition

@jakegideon5249 Жыл бұрын

Check out Tone Empire Loc-Ness.

@JohnSk82 Жыл бұрын

This is VERY nice !!

@johnisrael5183 Жыл бұрын

This sounds good but…Tim Pethericks Blu Mu and Cupwise FUCTI MU for nebula and they are both live analog sampled Sound like this but a lot better

@fausto_colella Жыл бұрын

why not tested more any differences between the oversampling settings? 😎

@TheSakuraGumiLTD Жыл бұрын

Love the song your testing 🥰

@blue.sunset Жыл бұрын

Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis

@jfilbert Жыл бұрын

I always relish those rare occasions when my face and Whytse's face are doing the exact same thing (@ 5:56 )--it's "THAT sound" 😵 Gonna see if I can unload my Pulsar Mu which I've never gotten on with, and pick up this puppy. OT butHave you ever reviewed the McDSP APB series? Always been curious about those.

@ronallen2458 Жыл бұрын

The price is half of what I was expecting, so that’s nice.

@schleppvideos 8 ай бұрын

Damn, man. This sounds NICE

@scopeplays Жыл бұрын

Nobody's voice is as good as Dan's. Feedback vs. Feed forward is explained at about 4:20+ in the promo-vid. Sidechaining before or after compression. This thing sounds promising, well done!

@honeywellparts7541 Жыл бұрын

You are getting better with the nails dude !! Rock with that !

@user-se3dy4ph1u Жыл бұрын

Awesome !

@randomcustomer2806 Жыл бұрын

Hey Wytse, he's just using the Focus button to change any parameter that his mouse pointer is hovered over.

@GrandmasterKnox Жыл бұрын

Would love to see a Vari-Mu battle pushing those plugins to the limit. Especially if it includes my boy MagicDeathEye, I try to take it off my chain but it always comes back

@BF-up5xw Жыл бұрын

It's really good to hear good things about MagicDeathEye. I've been intrigued to try it, especially since getting DDMF's new GrandEQ, which is about as clean and effective EQ as I've used.

@GrandmasterKnox Жыл бұрын

@@BF-up5xw Wow, GrandEQ actually looks exactly how I wanted an analog style EQ to look. Gotta give it a try. As for MagicDeathEye, please try it. I've been using both the normal and stereo mastering versions (despite the different models, both are stereo) for years. I just can't take it off my chain, I get great compression from it with a fraction of time, interface real state and CPU usage of most other compressors.

@BF-up5xw Жыл бұрын

@@GrandmasterKnox You're right, I've got to try it!

@rpgaleksy Жыл бұрын

I was planning to do a very in-depth test of different (mostly Fairchild-style) vari mu software compressors actually. Somewhat similar to what Hasan Delen has performed, but with plenty of different settings, test types, gain staging, etc. The video is still in the planning phase though as I'm trying to get the most comprehensive and comparable test results.

@BritoWorx Жыл бұрын

Handcrafted Labs makes amazing hardware units at affordable prices.

@rogercabo5545 Жыл бұрын

Isn't it pumpy everytime on bar one?

@Bronwyn031 Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear you still haven't mastered your UF-8. You have to change the control knob mode to plugin to get it to act as your mouse wheel button.(depressing it). The plugin has to support mouse wheel scroll controls for it to work. Test by hovering over a plugin control and using the scroll wheel to change parameters. If you're successful, then the UF-8 can control it. I use the encoder section on my left UF8 as transport control and my right UF-8 as plugin control. 😊

@frankbohle755 Жыл бұрын

I use the loupedeck ct for that and a lot more… it’s so versatile and needs less deskspace 👍🏽

@Bronwyn031 Жыл бұрын

@@frankbohle755If you're a podcaster or streamer then yes. The Loupedeck looks like a toy sadly. I would be hard pressed to see anyone incorporating one of those into a serious studio, home or professional.

@frankbohle755 Жыл бұрын

@@Bronwyn031 up to you, ... but I'm not a podcaster or streamer. All I can say is, it's not a "toy" and I feel very comfortable with it... 😏

@Bronwyn031 Жыл бұрын

C’est la vie 🤷🏿‍♀

@NERDOFUNK Жыл бұрын

How would you compare this to the Pulsar MU Comp?

@psybursonic Жыл бұрын

I did a quick shootout with the demo Vs MU. They sound different, both great. Mu excelled more at the warm gluey vibe, the islander had a bit more range of what it could do and was capable of some faster snappier compression to my ear (for a Vari-Mu). It’s attack and release seem more program dependent and it feels a little more idiot proof to me in that all the settings are just different flavors of good. The saturation is very different from Mu, and it can get a brighter sound without being hash. Both are good, and after trying the demo I want to buy it not as a replacement for Mu but as another good option to have in some situations.

@NERDOFUNK Жыл бұрын

@@psybursonic hey man, thank you for this write up, interesting! =)

@DJminiLibra Жыл бұрын

good song, thx for demo

@blue.sunset Жыл бұрын

Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis

@MartinvonBargen Жыл бұрын

Who's the artist today? Got a really nice 70s vinyl sound going on. I almost feel like I'm watching Harold and Maude. I generally don't mix anything slow enough for Vari Mu compressors, but this sounds good to my ears anyway.

@syjwg Жыл бұрын

I concur! He's not the usual Sandstorm artist. Nice voice, and the plugin was also very good.

@MartinvonBargen Жыл бұрын

@@syjwg Yeah, I normally listen to extreme death metal, but this sounds like something my dad would have put on the hi-fi on a rainy Sunday afternoon when I was a kid. Sounds ace. 🤘🤘

@jackharjani Жыл бұрын

The song is called "Honey Take My Hand" by Cody Francis

@helisoma Жыл бұрын

ya i'm wondering if it's a running gag it's always called Sandstorm by Darude 🤔

@FLAVMEDIA Жыл бұрын

SOUNDS AWSOME:))

@GingerDrums Жыл бұрын

@kristapsand Жыл бұрын

Can't decide what's better - song or compressor. Is this song released allready?

@blue.sunset Жыл бұрын

3 years old song. "Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis"

@fldrummerman Жыл бұрын

Damn great song!!!!

@taviqmasteringonline2754 Жыл бұрын

We will see.

@sirwanmusic Жыл бұрын

Love the song 🥲

@blue.sunset Жыл бұрын

Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis

@bonkerzmusic6506 Жыл бұрын

Changed that title fast :)

@Rhythmattica Жыл бұрын

Noice Track... Noice mix.. Noice Plug in... I just want to have a Puff & Stuff.

@morfiusuk Жыл бұрын

impressive

@OliverAmberg Жыл бұрын

Is this the very first time you don't bitch about this kind of UI??? 😁😉 Then it must be a super Plugin. And to be honest. It sounded great. Thanks for the review!

@TheSideProject Жыл бұрын

Well it's really really good

@T.H.W.O.T.H Жыл бұрын

one compressor to rule them all?

@Bthelick Жыл бұрын

Level gain always a red flag.

@theguythatdoesthatonething2133 Жыл бұрын

What song is this?

@blue.sunset Жыл бұрын

Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis

@keysitadavid1927 Жыл бұрын

4:25 aliasing go brrrrr

@Whiteseastudio Жыл бұрын

This is not aliasing....

@eetee3000 Жыл бұрын

Torille! 🔥

@DSWL_ Жыл бұрын

nice

@lance134679 Жыл бұрын

Does the world need yet another compressor plugin? Apparently so...

@andrew4982 Жыл бұрын

Your Sandstorm by Darude sounds like a different song every time…🤨

@mcadder Ай бұрын

No output gain? That's a dealbreaker for sure :(

@zerotoninemusic5957 Жыл бұрын

What happened to the graphics rant Wietze?

@viktorkigyos3839 Жыл бұрын

And It's not expensive...?! 😳😯

@symojup3382 Жыл бұрын

It sounds good, but the oversampling setting on the plugin GUI has no effect. At least with the AU version on my Mac. While at the same time external oversampling is working. Strange...

@JayTheLane Жыл бұрын

Vari-Nail.

@zouyia Жыл бұрын

That "μ" Mu thing is pronounced incorrectly .... its Manleys way to name the Variable Delta compressor but keep in mind that the Greek letter " μ" refers to gain ane its pronounced " Me" not Mu and not Moo......

@TrapBoiFuse561 Жыл бұрын

dont work with protools

@ALOISC1 Жыл бұрын

The hardware version is only $2,499.

@bennthirteen3701 Жыл бұрын

If I want to turn off oversampling I should have the option, cpu power.

@Whiteseastudio Жыл бұрын

@bennthirteen3701 Жыл бұрын

@@Whiteseastudio Triple Yes, choice is power.

@reinrbert1804 Жыл бұрын

It’d be better to add an option to choose the oversampling by default as well as no oversampling by default if the CPU power is on the first place.

@reinrbert1804 Жыл бұрын

@@bennthirteen3701Wytse has such a powerful MAC so he thinks that everything should fit his preferences, choice is power!🔥

@STAR0SS Жыл бұрын

No auto-gain, boost when you activate it and nothing to bitch about ? strange.

@marcusgarveyson Жыл бұрын

Too many plugin in the market

@PASHKULI Жыл бұрын

Seems like a facelift of Molot by TokyoDawnRecords (Vlad)

@psybursonic Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t really look anything like Molot to me… 🤔

@DanielPestanaTranslations 2 ай бұрын

Came from the fantastic Magic Death Eye Stereo video to this one. Both incredible. What a sound, just wow!

@leoneventicinque6731 Жыл бұрын

apparently this plugin is not compatible with Russian musicians

@YuzimaPhilip Ай бұрын

Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

@beehype46and2 Жыл бұрын

Comment for da algorithm Streak count: 141

@tabor503 Жыл бұрын

The clipping made my ears hurt

@Harrysound Жыл бұрын

I take it the SSL gear went back

@Harrysound Жыл бұрын

Shame, was looking forward to your review. Personally I love the uc1 and recent picked up a uf8 secondhand. If you use the channel strip plugins then the operation of the uf8 becomes quite marvellous, though I can see why some people are put off with its basic Makie mode.

@createsomesound7083 Жыл бұрын

Well, good, but nothing special as it should be)

@Divuar Жыл бұрын

As a Ukrainian, I love the Ukrainian flag in the centre of the plugin (and the top left hint as well, of course)! :D

@alx9889 Жыл бұрын

That's why I would not buy it. Political propaganda bullshit

@spec7or Жыл бұрын

Дякуєм 💙💛✨

@Octwavian Жыл бұрын

seems kinda biased. aren't there a lot of other plugins that can do the same thing? good and subtle is not really enough, the plugins we use are already doing that.

@Bronwyn031 Жыл бұрын

I read that this company is Ukrainian based but the website says they have since relocated to... somewhere else. I already own most of the popular compressor plugins but maybe i will purchase this plugin if any proceeds go to repelling Russia from Ukraine.

@andivax Жыл бұрын

Handcrafted Labs still based in Kyiv Ukraine

@urigeheadmot1196 Жыл бұрын

Ukraine flag 😅

@richertz Жыл бұрын

Also it’s a Ukrainian based company and it’s good to give them support over there in a very difficult time. Fairly priced as well. Will try the demo!

@maxborosiuk3570 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for understanding the situation of Ukraine and supporting it’s side, much much appreciated by music producers here 🙏🙏🙏

@jkgrooves Жыл бұрын

Ukraine is doing so well and deserves freedom. This company shows the world Ukraine has a rightful place in the markets of liberal democracy. 🇺🇲💛💙🏁

@maxborosiuk3570 Жыл бұрын

thank, we all in Ukraine appreciate every support from Ukraine 🙏🙏🙏💛💙 . It help us to spread the word about war and remind that if Ukraine will fall - Europe is next.

@urigeheadmot1196 Жыл бұрын

Ukraine is getting obliterated

@Root_music_ Жыл бұрын

Liberal democracy?😂😂😂

@maxborosiuk3570 Жыл бұрын

@@Root_music_ what is funny?

@coolmind2476 Жыл бұрын

As long as Ukraine is the puppet of Western countries and puts weapons on the border to Russia it should not complain.

@YuzimaPhilip Жыл бұрын

It's unfair to companies or viewers to use an analyzer and create a conclusion based on that. If you can't hear with your ears, there's something wrong. At a point, this becomes like a weird 'quality' control where you're putting it through a machine and letting the machine judge. We're musicians, and we can use our ears.

@kostyakonstantinoff Жыл бұрын

Putting the flag of Ukraine doesn't make it sound analogous. The science.

@maxborosiuk3570 Жыл бұрын

@@AntonVorozhtsov bravo

@Lekan675 Жыл бұрын

@@AntonVorozhtsov krasava)

@SongTown Жыл бұрын

What has this plugin got to do with Ukraine? What the hell is wrong with people?

@AntonVorozhtsov Жыл бұрын

Glory to Ukraine!

@Patbwoy Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the motherland of democracy and freedom. Right...

@nicovandenberg_ Жыл бұрын

@@PatbwoyWho said that? You? People are fighting for their lives, family and land over there against pure dumbf*ck evil. Time to choose sides boy, what will it be?

@helisoma Жыл бұрын

yes is that a Ukrainian flag in the center of the plug-in?

@AntonVorozhtsov Жыл бұрын

@@helisoma exactly

@tonytemple8195 Ай бұрын

That everyone else is paying for 🙄 Glorious

@NoeAnton Жыл бұрын

Really? Another video complaining about something?

@assshakerstudios549 Жыл бұрын

But isn't it just a plain old digital compressor and not a great analog modeled compressor? As it he's no saturation or anything on it. Every single piece of analog kit does have those things. And each one is unique because of that and why we want plugin versions of it, and why your studio is all analog! So where the analog saturation here? I don't see it, and in youtube am certainly not gonna hear it.... Soooo basically it's just a standard compressor you get in your daw that's wrapped in an analog box. Not sure why you like it.

@patriziomameli9812 Жыл бұрын

A plugin with a link to a pro Ukraine anti Russia website. F that. leave politics out of the musical plugin world

@djzz1978 Жыл бұрын

genocide is not "politics"

@patriziomameli9812 Жыл бұрын

@@djzz1978 regardless, it should not by in plugins. So are you going to develop a plugin against whales killing or pro lbtgq? Stop being ridiculous

@djzz1978 Жыл бұрын

@@patriziomameli9812 Anything that can help get attention matters. the fact that it caused such a reaction in you just shows what you are.

@Noir_music Жыл бұрын

@@djzz1978 then i believe this moral high ground should be maintained at all times. But let's be honest it's not going to happen. I truly believe Russia is on the wrong side here but Ukraine is no becon of all sunshine and rainbows when you read a little bit about them it gets pretty clear they ain't saints and as far as US of A is considered , they currently top the charts of the most hypocrite and A* hole of a nation beating Russia by some margin.

@djzz1978 Жыл бұрын

@@Noir_music what are you talking about?