This Capture Card was supposed to bring us into the future.. AVerMedia Live Gamer Ultra 2.1 Review
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The AVerMedia Live Gamer Ultra 2.1 is the HDMI 2.1 update to one of the best last-gen USB capture cards, but this update is... a bit of a mess. Here's my AVerMedia Live Gamer Ultra 2.1 review.
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OBS Tonemapped - • HDR OBS Tonemap
Capture Card Tonemapped - • HDR card tonemap
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▶️ Word of caution for HDMI 2.1 capture cards coming out - • HDMI 2.1 CAPTURE CARDS...
TIMECODES:
00:00 Slightly ahead of our time
00:29 The most anticipated capture card launch yet
01:09 Physical overview & ports
02:07 10gbps USB port notice
03:05 The most complicated specs yet
06:53 AVerMedia Gaming Utility
07:15 Latency
07:58 UVC? Mac? Linux?
08:41 iPad Camo Studio test
08:55 Retro Scaler Testing (RetroTINK 2x, 5x, 4k, OSSC, RetroGEM, XBHD)
09:52 Headset test
10:30 This is a mixed bag...
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@ThatNerdChris 9 ай бұрын
Holding out for clean 4k144 passthrough with real 4k60 fps+ XRGB capability!
@Jscar_Hawk 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for testing it on Linux, and letting us know how it worked, and the specs it supported!
@c0mmanderfatal 9 ай бұрын
Phenomenal video! Refresh planned or not I cannot wait for 2.1 capture any longer!
@ikaika_higashi 9 ай бұрын
Great review! This made me more excited to hear your thoughts on the PCIE card. Hopefully it’s really good.
@Yutappy99 9 ай бұрын
Avermedia was my very first capture card although unintentionally. I used to have an Avermedia card (around 2005) to receive TV broadcasts on my PC. I discovered I could connect my PS3 to the card via HDMI. I then used Fraps to record my gameplay footage and post it on KZfaq! I think I was one of the earliest, non-professional, people that was putting up 1080p console game footage on KZfaq and long before Twitch even started.
@tmanx2724 9 ай бұрын
Is this on an alt account? I can't find any videos :(
@Yutappy99 9 ай бұрын
@@tmanx2724 Well my old channel where I uploaded is now gone. I uploaded for about a year. Not quite a full year. Real life work meant that I couldn't upload often or consistently. Didn't really have much of a social media presence either. So without much views, I just deleted the channel and moved on (each video got about 10 average views). This was over a decade ago! This account is my main account (for now) and I've had this account for over 10 years. Who knows, maybe I might have another go at this KZfaq thing. Although now I'm a 44 year old man lol.
@Drilleh 9 ай бұрын
@@Yutappy99 do it as a hoppy or that you love it, don't worry about views and all that. i wish I never deleted my channel that I had 10years ago, even if It would've been big, looking back in time is something amazing about it... i miss it. If you ever plan on starting YT again, now is always the best time, whatever you do. Im 25 and hopefully i can continue this until i die haha, would love my older self to see these videos of me being just a weird gamer.
@Yutappy99 9 ай бұрын
@@Drilleh Thanks for the advice and encouragement. 👍❤
@AJCoRePlays 7 ай бұрын
I’m 44 (as of today) YT now requires 40hrs a week of full dedication to “make it”.
@philscomputerlab 9 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this one as I have some Mini PCs I could switch over that have USB 4. Any chance you can check what 4:3 PC resolutions are supported? Like 800x600, 1024x768?
@Zetraxes 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this proper review i really appriciate the depth of your information because other channels like Senpai Gaming where he makes this capture card out to be like the end all be all of capture cards where they can only improve in the price. Please continue in your great work for us to watch thank you
@GameSack 9 ай бұрын
On Mac, have you tried hooking it up, opening Quicktime, New Movie Recording and set quality to Maximum to see what you get? For 4K 60 recording I'm still using either the Elgato 4K 60 S+ or an Atomos Ninja V+. I'd love a Magewell solution but they cap out capturing at 4K30. I'm guessing this will cap out there as well with Quicktime.
@captoshuragnarok7444 7 ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to your video discussing the best capture card for playing a game on the computer. I've always wanted to be able to use my laptop's screen for gaming.
@helix8847 7 ай бұрын
+ this, would be interesting to see.
@KristophGavinSolitaryCell13 8 ай бұрын
Hoping that game on OBS Preview video comes out soon! Super interested in that, would love to hear more. Great video regardless on this, and all your info on capture cards of the years.
@zagohcap 7 ай бұрын
Seriously! My setup is in need of something like that. I use a 1080p capture card right now to play games on my Mac from my PC. It works for single player games but I have been looking for a better option.
@noenken 9 ай бұрын
Without UVC 4K60 it is an entirely pointless device to me. I don't accept being software locked and 4K30 has been available for years. Very disappointing.
@MaximilianRehkopf 4 ай бұрын
I think for Linux it's merely some USB initialization quirk. It tries to initialize the device at the full USB 3.2 Gen2 x2 data rate but hits a timeout, then retries with mere 5Gbps and succeeds. The card delivers a different UVC descriptor at that point that doesn't contain the more advanced resolutions and refresh rates. So I think the right kernel devs could probably sort it out but I have no idea who to ask...
@noenken 4 ай бұрын
@@MaximilianRehkopf Honestly, I currently have 2 NZXT Signal 4K30, one does high framerate 1440p for gameplay and the other one captures 1080p 60fps in 10 bit from a camera. I don't see myself shooting for more than that for a few years.
@CoalitionGaming 9 ай бұрын
Crispy A-Roll, good sir! Love it. Didn't realize EPOS shut down though, thats crazy.
@DelticEngine 9 ай бұрын
Many thanks for testing on Linux and posting results. This is relevant as more people game on Linux than Mac.
@Polyh3dron 9 ай бұрын
Do we know if Windows is ever going to enable HDR in their display cloning? For anyone with DisplayPort only monitors it'll be kind of necessary to capture and stream in HDR on a secondary streaming PC. I've explored OBS Teleport (which can tone map through OBS and output SDR, but does not support HDR), and Blackmagic Decklink Output from OBS which currently does not work in 4K on an Ultrastudio 4K Mini since the image gets corrupted. None of the potential workaounds have worked yet.
@JGAbstract 5 ай бұрын
I personally love the portable triangle design. I love that thing, the button in the center with the logo color indicator. Unique and cool design.
@succuvamp_anna 9 ай бұрын
I'm very interested in that low latency review while playing in the preview window, I legit don't have the space for another screen and being a VTuber means I can't exactly move my setup with all the tracking.
@rhoderzau 9 ай бұрын
What tool are you using to measure the OBS preview response times please? I'm trying to more accurately measure Moonlight/Sunshine response times on various platforms as I've noticed macOS is noticeably slower than iPadOS (both using M2 chips), and then devices with the Snapdragon Gen 2 being much slower than the Macs.
@dufd11 9 ай бұрын
@eposvox - always love your vids! Your aesthetic always brings me back to my childhood. I have a random question, I use the Elgato HD60X to capture my mirrorless camera for video conferencing, but keep running into Slack and Zoom video being “squished” aka the aspect ratio changes and the video gets super distorted (soon as I open vid in those apps the aspect ratio changes in OBS too!). I have a HD60s+ that doesn’t do this and works flawlessly, except for the higher HDMI latency.. I love the low latency of the 60X but that random scaling issue is a no bueno. Any ideas why the 60X does this and not the 60s+? Have tried firmware updates, settings, all sorts of things but no avail..
@SeanErixon 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the video you referenced at 7:30 because that actually is something I want to do lol. I actually just asked about this today on your Discord, and someone linked this video. I hope it's something that is possible(to game are ultra low latency and stream it to your desktop for OBS at the same time instead of using passthrough to another monitor).
@rocciel2543 4 ай бұрын
did you ever get an answer for this?
@LtDan8832 13 күн бұрын
@@rocciel2543 Did he ever release a video on it? I cant find it if he did
@NRS_Seraph 8 ай бұрын
Hello, thank you for the Video. I got a question. How can i switch in OBS between OBS ans Capture card Tone mapping? Greetings from germany
@NovaDoll 9 ай бұрын
Lucky for me. I have a board with thunderbolt. So two 40 ports. I've been waiting for this!
@_MrMH_ 8 ай бұрын
Regarding use with only 5gbps ports (3.2 gen1), do we know what the supported quality/frame rates are for this? I saw on the faq that you can capture 4k30 but there isn't really anything else on other resolutions and speeds? Anyone have that info?
@pingozingo 9 ай бұрын
Will you be looking at the Genki Shadowcast 2 Pro? It has a lot of similar features to the elgato HD60X but cheaper. And it can do 4K 60 but uses MJPEG to do it
@timejannies 5 ай бұрын
Should I disable adaptive sync in windows *and* the nvidia control panel when recording console footage using this? I get uneven frame pacing in recordings despite having 0 skipped and dropped frames according to OBS.
@OnBatteries 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to your video on using live capture to play games as it's my primary use case for a capture card.
@LtDan8832 13 күн бұрын
Did you ever get info on this? Have seen anything
@OnBatteries 12 күн бұрын
@@LtDan8832 Not yet, I think
@trmchenry 9 ай бұрын
Do we get 5.1/7.1 capture/passthrough over USB on this card like the PCIe? The spec docs for this card are pretty bad hahaha
@TheDirewolf 8 ай бұрын
Man, so close. If it could capture 4k60 HDR I'd order one today. Wonder how long til there is info on the PCIe version.
@EllDay 9 ай бұрын
I always get a flicker when using VRR in OBS?
@Wolfox360 8 ай бұрын
I have a question and I'm searching for a input device that converts HDMI to USBC Active, USBC has to supply power, This device can be used to push low latency video to a pair of Goggles? I see that there is no power supply in this box and this means that If i use Goggles, they will not switch ON. Any solution for Low Latency?
@eirik1068 9 ай бұрын
Yo mentioned the HDFury Vroom in the vid. What was not working with that device for you use case if I may ask? I have a LG CX myself, And 2 PCs. So was planning to get that to fix the capture card limitations over 4K 120hz HDR when trying to record/stream.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
It can’t scale 4k120 down to capture card supported formats
@eirik1068 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox Ahh. That is truly a shame. Really good timing then that you came out with this video! Thanks as always :) Cheers!
@SloMoBackSlap 9 ай бұрын
I have the internal Avermedia LiveGamer 4k GC573, would you think it's worth it to upgrade to this 2.1 card, wait for elgato has to offer, or just stick with what I have? Full context, I kinda want to go to an external as I'd like to get the full bandwidth out of my top PCIe slot.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
I mean, I'd wait for options. But if your current card meets your needs, i wouldn't upgrade
@SloMoBackSlap 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox thanks!
@Drilleh 9 ай бұрын
I loved Live Gamer Ultra 1.0, but the problem for me was that It didn't have 4k60, no party chat and no 2.1/vrr... I'm happy to try this one out if i can get my hands on it, i would love to up my gameplay game on YT with 4K60 recording, as now i can only do 4k30, and playing FPS games in 4k30 recording... its not fun.
@therealrezen 9 ай бұрын
Came here looking for capture card videos, I got an elgato hd 60 x for my birthday 2 days ago and No matter what I did or tried the audio would desync after so long and would then cut out and in every second. Video was beautiful tho. Never got an answer except elgato told me my PC was the problem. I have an Nvidia 980 ti and a 4 mhz 4 core 8350. I only tried 1080 30 fps. My pc streams every day on a Japanese capture card in the same resolution but I cant get my elgato to work? 😢
@BrandonSTO 9 ай бұрын
@eposvox i have a question, i’ve researched all online and found a couple threads but no solution. main problem is i’m dropping almost 40-50% of my frames while trying to stream HLS on obs (youtube). rtx 3080ti, nvenc hvec p7 @ 18,000 bitrate. HLS stream key on youtube’s side. the ODD thing is my internet is 100% solid, and i can confirm with speedtest and while testing RMPT exact same settings (except using h264 of course) i don’t drop a SINGLE frame. what troubleshooting do you suggest / have you experienced dropped frames while trying to stream HLS. i know you were excited when HLS support was added so thought this is a question for you!
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
HLS is more difficult for many internet connections to handle - it’s not an uncommon problem but there’s not really any solution I can offer unfortunately. Unless doing HDR there’s no reason to use HLS anymore, so I’d say just switch to RTMPS
@Bang4BuckPCGamer 9 ай бұрын
I picked this beauty up yesterday. The only issue I am having is this crackling/popping audio sound. It's not constant but it's certainly noticeable when it occurs. I remember having the same issue with my AverMedia Live Gamer 4K until it was fixed. Is anyone else having this issue or know a solution?
@kNewJamesPlus 8 ай бұрын
I'm dealing with this too. Been looking all day for a solution. If I find one I'll post it here
@Bang4BuckPCGamer 8 ай бұрын
I Actually fixed this issue by using an alternative port. The port I used on my Asus X670E Hero motherboard is the USB4 port rated at 40Gbps. It uses the Intel JHL8540 USB4 controller which seems to have no conflicts@@kNewJamesPlus
@NatureDCycling 8 ай бұрын
I have the elgato HD60 X. Worth upgrading to this or not 😮
@zhaf 9 ай бұрын
any date on the PCIe card?
@notkyloren 9 ай бұрын
Love your Combat Master username 😆 7:41
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
Mine is EposVox, to be clear. That one was someone else in the lobby
@burntnoodle5328 9 ай бұрын
Finally! Now I just need to wait for the PCIe card
@okygu 13 күн бұрын
Would I be able to stream on my MacBook Air M1 with a PS5 on 1440p 120hz?
@SteveEricJordan 9 ай бұрын
does this mean i can use this to play nintendo switch on my laptop screen with zero frames of delay? (and without any downsides or quality loss compared to just using a monitor/tv?) if so, is this the first capture card thats able to do this? i remember buying the best capture card available a few years back and it had about 1 frame of lag.
@JackGracie 9 ай бұрын
The graph showing the latency to previewing on your PC is at 7:26 in the video. So it's around 59ms delayed and at 60fps a frame is around 16.7ms. He says "I still wouldn't recommend playing games from the OBS preview" just after, but that he does have a video covering options to do that coming soon. Hope that helps!
@tek_soup 9 ай бұрын
no hd60x is all you need for switch, and has the lowest latency.
@SteveEricJordan 9 ай бұрын
@@JackGracie yeah thank you i realized that later too
@zurce 9 ай бұрын
@EposVox I have an Apple Display (with no hdmi inputs) and would love to use this as a way to play my PS5 on that display by capturing at 4k60, i know it should work fine for it, but I wonder if it will work for 4k40 on games like god of war, i love playing them in my LG CX and i can set my display to 4k40 , I'm just not sure if the PS5 will output them since it can't capture at 4k120
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
This scenario would not work
@iFaFo_0 9 ай бұрын
I have a very specific question in regards to capturing gameplay. No matter how I record gameplay be it via obs or a capture card, I notice that gameplay doesn't look smooth when uploaded to youtube like it does on the machine I am playing on. From my understanding that has to do with frame rate not being perfectly recorded but I could be wrong. it looks like no matter how its captured if you record while locking frame rate at 60fps or if you record the screen while your fps stays way above 60fps the gameplay still won't look smooth. From what I have gathered online it seems like in order to get that perfectly buttery smooth gameplay you should record while playing with a pinned 120fps completely stable gameplay in order for 60fps to look better on youtube. Is this the case? I am hoping someone can confirm. Side question, if capture cards come out that let us record at higher than 60fps so let says 120fps 4k, will we then be able to trim off the footage and only record the buttery 60fps part of the footage and remove any frames higher than that? If my ingame frametime is extremely low and I am recording gameplay at much slower rate should this not fix the issue of smoothness in gameplay videos? I just want the videos to look better on youtube and its becoming a bit of an obsession trying to understand just why every video I see with recorded gameplay on youtube looks so jittery. There has to be a solution. Shooting cinematic style gameplay content really doesn't look great when the footage just has such a jittery feel.
@hamzashaikh9310 9 ай бұрын
or you can just use capture card with vrr capture support. Those capture gameplay with perfect timing.
@forgotten893 8 ай бұрын
For your first question, what might be happening here is you're used to seeing above 60 fps, so looking back at the footage could be a little jarring. Your mind remembers it being buttery smooth, so the playback feels awful. What I recommend trying is uploading the video and watching the video a couple of days later, and on a native 60 hertz panel, I also recommend not playing the same game for those days of waiting. You may find it's pretty smooth after all.
@NateWolfKira 9 ай бұрын
What is your best guess when we might start seeing the Asus 2.1 cards state side?
@_B.C_ 9 ай бұрын
Any idea when the pci version of this card will start taking preorders?
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
i hope by sometime in November at latest
@muhammadamjad6270 9 ай бұрын
I got the capture card today! It’s sucks that doesn’t capture 4K60 in HDR.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
Sadly that’s a fair bit over the 10gbps bandwidth limit :/
@wsjudd 9 ай бұрын
It would be cool to see what the EDID swapping / EDID info looks like in the app, if possible?
@tek_soup 9 ай бұрын
it is literally 2 columns, you have a choice of edid resolutions framerates to swap in/out 5 or 6? it is just a extra program in the downloads, they have had for many years.
@wsjudd 9 ай бұрын
@@tek_soup Interesting, I have a Live Gamer 4K and wonder if this is available for that as well, as I'd love to remove EDIDs that are used automatically that mess up my capture :)
@tek_soup 9 ай бұрын
yeh look for avermedia gaming utility. it is in the download section but a optional one.@@wsjudd
@fallen_tsu 9 ай бұрын
Spesking of 2.1 passthrough capture cards Whats the cheapest one I can get? I primarily care about 1080p120hz And I saw nzxt made one that seemingly works but I missed the oppurtunity on a sale Any other affordable options?
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
This and the weird knockoff Max Square I just reviewed are the only ones on the market currently
@fallen_tsu 9 ай бұрын
thanks for the speedy reply, love the videos!@@EposVox
@GuyManley 9 ай бұрын
dang, not having a capture card to support it was my reason for not getting a RT4k, guess I'm might actually have to get this and the mike chi master piece too.
@livinghero 9 ай бұрын
Just got El Gato CEO to respond to me about capture cards, it was just him saying soon lol excited for the new cards.
@sicariusk9 9 ай бұрын
Part of me wants to just pull the trigger on this for now until one of them comes out with a PCIe version.
@hamzashaikh9310 9 ай бұрын
Digital Foundry uses Yuan SC750N1-L that captures up to 8K60fps/4K120/1080p240. Will you review it ?
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
Not super likely. It’s completely unaffordable and from what I’ve heard from DF the drivers are a complete mess
@BladeBlur 8 ай бұрын
So is this card inferior to the Live Gamer Bolt? I believe it has more GBPS speed than the Usb-C port that the 2.1 supports? Maybe there will be a Bolt 2.1 in the future...
@EposVox 8 ай бұрын
In the 4k60 and hdr capture capabilities, yes. The bolt can’t passthrough hdmi 2.1 specs, however, and requires thunderbolt 3 and doesn’t work with Apple silicon macs
@forgotten893 8 ай бұрын
So, if I understand this right, I can pass through at 4K120FPS RGB and record at 1440P60FPS RGB just fine?
@EposVox 8 ай бұрын
Yes
@forgotten893 8 ай бұрын
@@EposVox Perfect!
@loldarian 9 ай бұрын
Hawt X-Play hoodie!
@SabeameFantasy 9 ай бұрын
Still waiting for GC575 internal PCIe capture card.
@reav3rtm 9 күн бұрын
Can it function like standalone capture card (without monitor plugged in) or it requires monitor to be plugged-in to operate as USB-C capture card?
@EposVox 9 күн бұрын
You don’t have to have a monitor plugged in
@reav3rtm 9 күн бұрын
@@EposVox So it has EDID emulation and stuff. Thanks!
@EposVox 9 күн бұрын
I’d say the EDID manager on the Elgato cards is better, depending on what you need But it has some yes
@CDubbsW0rld 9 ай бұрын
This is dope. I think I will wait for the Elgato release.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
We waited 3 years, might as well wait a little longer to have options to choose from
@thetrademarkclan 9 ай бұрын
what about 165Hz monitors?
@Imafia97 9 ай бұрын
Does it support Dolby Vision and Atmos pass through from Xbox series x?
@camixxx 9 ай бұрын
If I had to guess it's a big NO since it's not mentioned anywhere in the specs. Only HDR...
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
I'm fairly certain it doesn't, but I don't have any devices to receive those to test
@Imafia97 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox Ah , that's disappointing. Thank you for the response, awesome video
@jessejames-xe6ui 9 ай бұрын
asus 4kpro capture card passthrough support all feature including Dobly,but still not support 4k60 HDR capture, it came out in September, 260usd in china.I'd wait for pcie hdmi2.1 card.
@Imafia97 9 ай бұрын
@@jessejames-xe6ui I do not have a PC, so need an external one. Guess I will check out the ASUS one. Thank you
@purrpocalypse 7 ай бұрын
The HD60 X still seems to be king for OBS preview latency... Which is admittedly the #1 thing I care about in a card. Other than some odd framerate slowdowns, the HD60X has really changed how I play and capture games on my PC. I'll keep watching for something with less latency, but it's hard not to be happy that I still have the best option for now.
@AJCoReTV 9 ай бұрын
Hoping as promised by Avermedia… that Mac 4k/60 capture will be unlocked by a FW update by December! 🙏🏽
@jashveer701 9 ай бұрын
Hey bro i’ve been seen you everywhere i need some help with you , i’ve seen that you have a nova wireless with a game dac I’m picking up the avermedia 2.1 , i have the chat link elgato and the nova wireless Do avermedia have a software where you can switch from HDMI to Analog (Audio)
@jashveer701 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward for your reply bro
@AJCoReTV 9 ай бұрын
@@jashveer701 yes & I’ll have a video with more details.
@kougamecs3876 9 ай бұрын
Hey guys question, does the iPhone 12 Pro Max support hdmi out?
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
With lightning to hdmi adapter yes
@alanlee4827 8 ай бұрын
Review the ATOMOS Ninja Plus and compared them to these game capture cards!
@zxcvb_bvcxz 9 ай бұрын
The generic cards: disassemble them or send them to someone to disassemble. I found a lot of them had had the brands of chips etched or blasted off.
@Kordanor 9 ай бұрын
Would be cool if you also showed some love to old DOS games :D I found VGA capturing as special kind of pain, as there are no good capruting solutions. Currently using a Datapath VisionRGB, but that inofficial software is no longer developed for Windows and has some serious bugs regarding resolution switching. So I am wondering whether these new capture devices can actually capture VGA Signals (e.g. 320x200 via 720x400 at 70Hz). There are some cheap converters to convert VGA into DVI/HDMI and while monitors can display these, capture cards will tell you "out of range". Well, the display being analogue, they might also be butchered by the converter, but thats another story. So would be great if you could cover VGA (320x200 @ 70Hz) Capture as well, as the only option currently is the Datapath which is 1000$ and still not great. The Retrotink 4k is also the first one featuring VGA in. So it would be great if you could have a look at that as well with some old dos games. That said, thank you for your great videos!
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I mean, reliably transcoding VGA to HDMI maintaining those formats to test with these cards is difficult enough, with very few good things for that anymore, combined with me not really having any good DOS-specific gaming systems
@Kordanor 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox Mabye you got a newer system which could also just boot into DOS? Lots of graphics cards of the 2000s era still feature a graphics card with VGA. And after that I think mainboards do usually have VGA connectors. Ofc you'd also need a proper monitor (ideally a CRT). If you don't go for the best, prices are pretty low there, but ofc it all takes up tons of space (and making a time-"authentic" Dos Machine can also be a total pain in the ass, but for tests that wouldnt be necessary and a PC from the 2000s with VGA Port should be good in theory). I dont know if you are familiar with the Vogons Forum, but they got a 68 Pages long thread about capture solutions for VGA (called "VGA Capture Thread") ...with very little outcome unfotunately, as there just isn't much available.
@Kordanor 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVoxActually...a cheapo 50$ Laptop from the 90s might do the trick already (and doesnt take up space). I had one which I was unable to capture when using DOS. Needs to have a VGA-out ofc.
@gravdigr27 9 ай бұрын
Kinda unrelated but someone here may know the answer. I recently went to a 2 box streaming setup and am using an elgato 4k60 pci card. I didn't want my gaming pc display to be dependent on my streaming pc being on so instead of using the capture card passthrough I cloned my gaming pc display to the hdmi port on my RTX 4080 and run that to my capture card while a display port output goes to my 4K monitor. I haven't had any issues but I'm curious if this has any negative effects I have not noticed. I use a rodecaster duo mixer for my audio so the only thing the 4k60 pro captures is video.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
extra stutter, input latency, or screen tearing can all be consequences of cloning - but not guaranteed
@gravdigr27 9 ай бұрын
Oh, ok. I've only ever streamed with it on twitch which as you know caps you at 6000kb/s 1080p so the issues may not show there. But I'm planning on starting to record my streams to make some youtube content. If those issues show up there I'll switch to pass through. Side question, what would be the best way for me to stream to twitch in 1080p and record my footage in 4k, or even 1440p, with my stream box. It's got a Ryzen 5 5600x, RTX 3050, 16GB ddr4 3200 and a gen 4 NVME SSD. Should I bump the RAM up to 32GB? This is my first time using a 2 box setup where I can actually grab high quality footage while playing games at high graphics settings. Thanks.@@EposVox
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
All of those issues would be apparent on a Twitch stream if present. Regarding second question, probably to just set up OBS at 4K and then set the Twitch encoder to rescale to 1080p in the output settings.
@gravdigr27 9 ай бұрын
And that makes perfect sense. Obviously still learning OBS here. You the man good sir.@@EposVox
@miko_un_ 7 ай бұрын
Best would be also a support for 32:9 ultra wide
@tekmaniacstreams 9 ай бұрын
I'm not able to use a portable version of OBS and a regular version of OBS with this capture card. I can do it with my gc573 but not this one. Has anyone tried it?
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
UVC capture cards can’t be used in multiple programs at once
@tekmaniacstreams 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox thanks
@KathyXie 9 ай бұрын
I play some switch games on OBS using an avermedia live streamer cap 4k, turn based games like pokemon are perfectly playable but games that needs precision input like fighting games, Rhythm games, fast puzzle like Tetris are still too frustrating to play seriously, still not bad for a 60-70 usd capture card.
@Glanzern 9 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate? You shouldn't be playing off the capture card output...you should still have the raw source coming from a monitor like normal. Using a capture card should not impact your playing if you're doing it right...
@hareblix 7 ай бұрын
I think I might have to bite it and try this card. I need something that can do 1440 ultrawide at 60 and pass through the same at 120, with VRR.
@iTouch4444 7 ай бұрын
where display port consumer capture card?
@EposVox 7 ай бұрын
In our dreams
@MAKExEVIL 6 ай бұрын
It should be noted that, via a firmware update, it supports ultrawide 3440x1440 @ 120Hz just like the PCIe card version releasing this month.
@stranger957 7 ай бұрын
If it was possible to make 4k60 recording through USB 3, then why did we get Live Gamer BOLT before? Back in my time I wasted extra cash for a laptop with Thunderbolt and now I see this. A bit frustrated.
@EposVox 7 ай бұрын
This uses the higher USB 3.2x2 10gbps spec; the previous cards were all limited to USB 3.0 5gbps which could not do it
@stranger957 7 ай бұрын
@@EposVox checked the bandwidth of 4k60 8bit 4:2:0 is 8.9gpbs. Now it started to make sense for me. But now I wonder is thunderbolt port on my windows laptop will be compatible with this card?
@EposVox 7 ай бұрын
Yes
@stranger957 7 ай бұрын
@@EposVox thanks you! I really worried about it
@TinTinGamez 6 ай бұрын
does it support hdr?
@EposVox 6 ай бұрын
Addressed in the specs section
@VideogamesAsArt 8 ай бұрын
I don't understand why the capture is always slower. Is it because of the USB bandwidth? By that logic the PCIe cards should have more capture capabilities, but that is not always the case either. I guess HDMI bandwidth can be higher than pcie slot bandwidth but then why limit it to 2.0 and 3.0 when most content creators already have 4.0 (and are already eyeing 5.0)
@rudiruessel9816 9 ай бұрын
I need 1440p and 360hz for may Asus aqn . How long I must wait? Elgato let us sit😢😢
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
That’s not even supported in the HDMI 2.1 spec, so you’d be waiting another 5+ years at minimum lol OBS Projector preview or NDI will be your friend here
@rudiruessel9816 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox thx for your answer I tried ndi but if I start ob's on Game PC it just feel not so smove anymore for games like apex. Why the don't ad 1440p 360hz it's possible.
@rudiruessel9816 9 ай бұрын
I will watch if it's really not supported ...
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
@@rudiruessel9816 They can't add 1440p360, it's *not* possible, it's not supported by the existing HDMI spec
@joegt123 9 ай бұрын
The price tag is giving me pause, but i was already looking at $120 for a capture card and another $140 for a 2.1 hdmi 1in2out splitter that could pass through 4k120hz anyway.
@Mylksix 5 ай бұрын
I don’t even need a capture card but for some reason Epos Vox in the background is the only way I stay productive lmao
@EposVox 5 ай бұрын
Haha I love this
@wielku 9 ай бұрын
I NEED IT
@YuJay 7 ай бұрын
I'm actually happy AVerMedia has come this far and when from being just random Chinese capture cards to full on industry competing capture cards. After Corsair bough Elgato their prices just sky rocketed and I think they are honestly taking the P*ss..
@EposVox 7 ай бұрын
The 4K capture cards from Elgato got significantly cheaper after the Corsair acquisition lol
@EzequielBruni 9 ай бұрын
That's a big oof on the Ultrawide support. And here I was hoping to see 5120x1440 as an option.
@zxcvb_bvcxz 9 ай бұрын
Capture card: pristine quality KZfaq/Twitch: utterly bitcrushed
@tek_soup 9 ай бұрын
should of been 20gbs for the price. also to have some more headroom, firmware update and give you more stable/extra features. cause the thunderbolt version will be $400 Rode gives you new features with updates.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
Rode has a TB capture card??
@tek_soup 9 ай бұрын
no i just was meaning, how they give you new features, with there firmware/software updates. @@EposVox
@DejayClayton 9 ай бұрын
What's up with the recent color scheme for this channel? Is it a branding thing?
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
Color scheme has not changed in years.
@DejayClayton 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox No, I mean, it feels like someone covered your camera lens with a tinted piece of cotton cloth. Or am I just getting glaucoma
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
My entire brand/aesthetic is mirroring the 80s/90s analog/VHS look (hence "be kind, rewind"). The noise is film grain. It's supposed to be there.
@DejayClayton 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox yeah, but your recent videos look like your palette is being crushed to 256 colors or something. Just a few months ago, your camera shots had vivid representation of you as a person.
@Gm12722 9 ай бұрын
Hi bro do a video about new elgato hdmi 2.1 capture card I see it in senpai gaming community post
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
They’re not out yet lol
@Gm12722 8 ай бұрын
@@EposVox ok bro thanks for your reply 🙏
@TetherOnline 9 ай бұрын
The only place I can find this capture card so far is Amazon, but its priced at like $500+.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
Well that's obviously a scalper. It's available on AVerMedia's website as linked in the description.
@TetherOnline 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox I actually tried that first and only got a 'No Product Found' for some reason. I'll give it a bit of time and see if it works later, might be just a website error for the moment or something.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
Oh strange, I tested it before commenting and it worked. Yeah they must be having issues
@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 9 ай бұрын
I don't understand what the utility of external devices is over pci-e devices at all. I mean for laptops, yeah you kind of need an external device but anyone with at least a m-atx mobo will be far better off with a pci-e device.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
With these higher specs, even people with atx boards have trouble with bandwidth, as capture cards in chipset lanes are a bad time. Pcie cards also require the pc to be on for passthrough to work, whereas usb often can keep power active while pc is off, etcetc Also people often have other expansion cards already
@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox I don't know having to shuffle cables is a price a streamer could pay for having enough bandwidth. 10 Gbps isn't that much as I am sure you will attest to. That said I have seen chipset lanes malfuncton in many buıildzoid streams. So maybe a company could bundle a capture card with an m.2 converter, it cold even be an x4 device. I know an even smaller niche will buy something like that but I don't think it would be that smaller.
@NinjAsylum 9 ай бұрын
I just use the EVGA XR1 Pro for the PS5. It works perfectly.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
Well it doesn't work for 4K120 passthrough or any other HDMI 2.1 exclusive feature, lol. That's the point of these new ones.
@hoemey 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVoxThere's a relatively cheap fix for this: HDMI 2.1 splitter with downscaler. That's what I use with the XR1 Pro. I have a splitter that sends 4K120 HDR to my LG CX and a downscaled 1080p120 to the XR1 Pro going to a stream PC.
@TremorBoria 9 ай бұрын
… it wasn’t available at launch cause people like dlc 😮 lol I think I wait to see what Elgato has in a pcie iteration, that is I’ll wait till *you* show us what Elgato has in store.
@rahfikiruckus 8 ай бұрын
No one gonna say anything about the gamertag in first place in the game play portion.
@DarkP1 9 ай бұрын
$300 I'll stick to shadowplay or ps5 own recording
@SamSB250 9 ай бұрын
Q: Are you shooting in a really dark room ? theres so much "noise" on ur skin .
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
It’s grain
@Apple_Ryan 9 ай бұрын
Honestly give me a USB card that can capture 4 HMDI in seperatly at1080P 24p or 25p and i will be happy.. Would make live productions so much easier to just grab a laptop and not have to fly with flightcases for a VMIX server
@jianxiongRaven 8 ай бұрын
Wth with tht 3440x1440 😭😭😭
@AJCoRePlays 7 ай бұрын
****Mac FW support officially launched 12/15/23.. will update now & report back… -----/ Bad news… M1Pro….no 4K 60, unless you use Rec central & even then, the output is a stuttery mess…. If anyone with M3 Ultra can test, let us know.
@AJCoRePlays 7 ай бұрын
Bad news… M1Pro….no 4K 60, unless you use Rec central & even then, the output is a stuttery mess…. If anyone with M3 Ultra can test, let us know.
@gtw138 4 ай бұрын
@@AJCoRePlays noooo that sucks!! :(( can it do 2k 60?
@MichaelMonn 9 ай бұрын
Magewell or GTFO =P
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
We they don’t have HDMI 2.1 options and when they do it will be way too expensive for most people
@MichaelMonn 9 ай бұрын
@@EposVox yeah but their Linux support is what I need the most. Besides, it is usually worth the cost. I have bought other, cheaper and inferior products before and have been burned.
@Lohkat 9 ай бұрын
why is your colors getting flatter and noisier? This is not really a great idea man, details get lost with it and it feels like we're getting back in time
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
"it feels like we're getting back in time" Success
@mdmcd6273 9 ай бұрын
This is the style that I'm here for! A simpler time. And I love the time travel feel.
@kougamecs3876 9 ай бұрын
It wouldn't make sense saving up for 120 Hz equipment when KZfaq keeps sitting on their ass 🙄 not pushing 120fps video, worse that people are breaking their backs to buy 120fps phones. When there are hardly any 120fps content unless you make it yourself or go on Twitch. Ugh. I'll keep my Avermedia BU113 until these streaming companies take their greedy heads out of their ass.
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
The format you play in does not need to be beholden to the format you capture in. This lets you play in 120hz etc while still capturing like normal - which is all most people want or need. 120fps video is not something that will be a mainstream want
@LikeThisReview 9 ай бұрын
FYI. Your video started with a shocking ad about Israel
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
I have zero control over Adsense ads
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