This character RUINED Street Fighter 4

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#sf6 #streetfighter #sf4 #capcom #fgc
Outro full video lol: • Official Capcom Cup Fi...
Tough times. Do you remember any of these moments, and which are some of your (least) favourite Elena moments from SF4?
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@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Did you or anyone you know play USF4 Elena? 👀

@navonebelcher6692 5 ай бұрын

Yeap combo Kash I HATED HER

@derickalexandrino1975 5 ай бұрын

There's a youtuber by the name of "Bafael" that made a pretty great vid detailing her strengths at the time and a more "realistic" outlook on her impact to the game. Would recommend him,great watch👍👍👍❤❤❤

@zengram 5 ай бұрын

If I don't like a character,I don't play with it,even if is super brokwn

@aledantih6524 4 ай бұрын

Of course I know him, he's me

@tyrant_uk 4 ай бұрын

@@aledantih6524 oh NO

@Riced1 5 ай бұрын

As someone who only recently started following the FGC, I love this retrospective format. They’re super interesting and it feels like a fun lil history lesson

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Glad you like it man, it was (mostly) good times haha

@lamMeTV 5 ай бұрын

contemporary history is the best!

@xOwlBear 5 ай бұрын

One thing you didn't mentioned is that when Elena was introduced in the cast people though that she was low tier.

@harrylane4 5 ай бұрын

I’d love to see Elena back for 6, especially in the new artstyle, but I’m scared about how people would react after what she did to 4 😂

@anso3886 5 ай бұрын

nah the heal is gonna be very cheese on 2bar expecally when you can almost insta heal on mordern

@ligneotetsvdo1341 4 ай бұрын

J'adorerai, de plus avec la tenue qu'elle a à la fin de son mode histoire dans 3s qui me semble infiniment moins gênante et même mignonne. Puis, pour sa super qui la soigne, ils pourrait soit lui fixer un assez petit nombre de points de vie soignés, soit introduire une mechanique semblable à celle de Jamie, ou bien même juste en inventer une autre. Cependant, je souhaite vraiment revoir Elena, même si je n'aime pas beaucoup cette opus.

@aledantih6524 4 ай бұрын

I feel like they could tweak the heal to make it work in some way, like maybe making it an install state where she gets like a certain amount of heals on hit on a timer or something like that. I'd really love to see her back too

@josephmorales9498 Ай бұрын

Ayyyy🎉

@louishubbard2104 2 күн бұрын

I want use her in six just to be toxic now

@brianixriverakix5651 5 ай бұрын

sneakin in that sanford stick throw was **chef's kisses** love the throwback vid, hopefully we'll get more history lessons :)

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! If this video picks up I'll be sure to make more SF4 videos, I love this era

@ckorp666 5 ай бұрын

i'd heard bits and pieces of this story, but never the part about those late characters being SFxT backports inspired by a random mod, that explains so much more about the inconsistencies. fun watch

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed, thanks a lot! :D

@midnight_pm 5 ай бұрын

@0:24 - Err, excuse me, sir. Fightsticks are expensive.

@milksandwich8560 5 ай бұрын

She makes me miss vanilla SF4 Sagat

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

I'd even take AE Yun over her

@zaylinlynn8522 5 ай бұрын

It’s been a while but how deadly was he

@bigbangbot-SuperSqank 5 ай бұрын

From what I remember, EX dash punch was always + on block. It could also lead into Ultra 1 (Ultra 1 also had followups). He also had a super, super good dive kick, his movement was very strong and his whole kit in general was really solid with him also having good combo damage. He was a very versatile character who was threatening pretty much anywhere on the screen.

@santiagodelossantos2323 5 ай бұрын

Refreshing. Lovely to see USFIV still relevant to this day, and players still upload serious content about it. I remember when I was watching that match you played, and back then I didnt even know you existed, you did amazing in that match. This just confirms why USFIV is the greatest FG ever to exist.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! I want to do more of these throwback videos since people seem to reqlly like it, I also think SF4 is the best fighting game. Appreciate you, thanks for watching!

@VideoGameGallery 5 ай бұрын

I noticed that too. Some moves whiff on her when she's airborne.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, she just doesn't work (fairly) in that game lol

@livelife77 5 ай бұрын

Truth is, I enjoy playing Elena on Sf3rd Strike. I played Elena for 11 years now and I hope she makes it on Sf6. Hopefully other characters on 3rd strike or on sf4 makes it on sf6 and good luck to the players on this year EVO.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

I'd love to see her, but balanced plz lol. Oh and Dudley too

@ayojunya 5 ай бұрын

I reallyyyy want her back for sf6. I dont care if they have to remove or rework her healing either

@patdaddy5055 Ай бұрын

Well, she is going to be in 6 now

@NoNsToPxs 5 ай бұрын

I miss SF4, but man I wish USF4 was never existed, it ruined SF4 for me

@maki_roll 5 ай бұрын

I mostly spectated during the SF4 era so I never experienced Elena firsthand. Damn she must have felt unbearable to play against 😭

@MsValentine2552 5 ай бұрын

Amazing work! Love how you break down the history of the game.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

@terra.obxcura 5 ай бұрын

the ending edit is dope as heck hahahaks

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Full video is here on the channel, I made it back in 2015 😂 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNNnZ92amdO5dmg.html&pp=ygUUY2FwY29tIGN1cCAyMDE1IGh5cGU%3D

@FierceTable 5 ай бұрын

The premature release of SFV was the only thing that "ruined" SF4. I don't disagree that Elena could have used some patching, but even in its final form, USF4 was one of the more balanced fighting games while also being enjoyable from the standpoint of a player AND a spectator.

@Konalius_Nee 5 ай бұрын

Love these type of video, i am a relatively new FGC enjoyer, and videos like this give more lore about the past of this community.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Welcome to the FGC! Glad you enjoyed it, more to come

@RZA741 5 ай бұрын

Elena is my go to whenever i play SF3 3rd Strike. legs for days!!!

@popeye5274 5 ай бұрын

“She got legs.. and she knows how to use ‘em!” 🎶

@dsansome1 5 ай бұрын

Great stuff Ty - informative, funny and nostalgic! And to think people thing modern FGs have poor character balance...

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Thanks man, yeah tell me about it lol. This was something else

@KALiiYUGA 5 ай бұрын

I played Elena in USFIV, but I never used healing. Only reason being is I could never rely on myself to use it correctly lol but she is one of my favorite characters and I pray they bring her back in VI

@JDefends 5 ай бұрын

Putting dash up DP as a high pretty much sums up why I fucking despise SF4

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

That was hype tbh

@GattoriSancho 4 ай бұрын

A character that can heal herself is bullshit.

@tyrant_uk 4 ай бұрын

Oh you know it LOL

@kingoverseas9052 5 ай бұрын

Ahh you're still on KZfaq. Good to see you!

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Yep still out here! Thank you :D

@Vespyr_ 5 ай бұрын

I quit during Super Street Fighter IV which I had thought was the game at its best. I was really surprised to even hear about Ultra being released because it felt like SSF4 was so perfectly balanced.

@tyrant_uk 4 ай бұрын

Yeah plenty of folks think SSF4AE 2012 was the best version. Thanks for watching dude

@GeraLares 5 ай бұрын

Scrubby Turtle Fighter 4: Training Stage Edition

@alexspyro563 5 ай бұрын

Funny I love Elena that I wish she could be in street fighter 6 because a capoeira fighter will make the game super unique but like you said about the healing “OH HELL NO” in sf6

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

I would love to see her as long as they balance her well!

@alexspyro563 5 ай бұрын

@@tyrant_uk I couldn’t agree more

@OmnipotentO 5 ай бұрын

I wanted to learn her back in the day but I found her bnb links pretty hard so I went back to Viper/Makoto. I should boot it up again. I could prob do it now.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Yeah she definitely has a bit of an execution barrier for her optimals!

@conradojavier7547 5 ай бұрын

Be Glad Gill is not in 4, or His Resurrection is his Ultra.

@ouranos0101 5 ай бұрын

I sense that she will return to SF6 in the near future.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

If so we have to pray she is more balanced than this mess

@ryanturner5350 5 ай бұрын

I dipped out of SF and FGC content in general between late-cycle AE v.2012 and the release of Ultra..but that looked NASTY.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Trust me bro, it was BAD lol

@botom 5 ай бұрын

Man I Love Ultra Street Fighter IV

@Creepo_J 5 ай бұрын

I just watched one of your elena vids from 9 years ago lol

@supermahmoud 5 ай бұрын

I love broken characters in Fighting games, they are fun to mess with !!

@lamMeTV 5 ай бұрын

Well that was an abrupt end to the video ...

@navonebelcher6692 5 ай бұрын

I miss comp all day😢

@pmf026 4 ай бұрын

Rolento is pretty stupid too.

@gagapa76 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Tyrant ❤

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Any time! Hope you're doing well man

@kurtofthecumulonimbus 5 ай бұрын

I want her to be a character in SF6 albeit thoroughly balanced so we don't have 5 broken characters (Ken, Luke, JP and Deejay being the 4)

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

If she does return in SF6 I agree, they must take care to balance her properly unlike USF4 lol

@conradojavier7547 5 ай бұрын

What if Healing is Elena's Critical Arts in 6.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

As long as healing is balanced then that's fine!

@pokeshark 5 ай бұрын

how did exactly Elena ruin USF4 again? it doesn't add up. only 3 Elenas were @ Capcom Cup 2015 (Justin Wong went out 0:2, Xiao Hai 1:2, GamerBee went out 2:2 - eliminated with a Perfect from Tokido) meanwhile: 10+ Lukes in Capcom Cup for SF5 last season -> MenaRD won with Luke 10+ Lukes in Capcom Cup for SF6 first season -> hopefully Luke army is stopped next weekend on a personal note, I have 1000 hours in USF4 and fought her online in exactly 2 matches (and I won both). in SF5/SF6 there's orders of magnitude more Luke players online.. and I wouldn't exactly say Luke ruined SF5/SF6...

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Don't forget she had only been around less than a year in 2015, and she still dominated the entire season (aside from not making top 8 at CPT) for the most part. That goes to show how strong she was when players were obviously unoptimal with her back then and still had amazing results. Now there isn't big money on the line and very few USF4 tournaments, you don't see her that often, even online... how surprising haha

@omegaweapon116 5 ай бұрын

And they ruined the character. Her animations and design were so cool back in third strike and they just f'd it all up. She was my main in 3S and I didn't even want to use her in this game

@flyingt4348 4 ай бұрын

They should delete those last characters they added from the game and it would make it more balanced again. There was so much pressure to get it balanced and then they just ruined everything.

@tyrant_uk 4 ай бұрын

Yeah it's often regarded that AE2012 was the best version of the game

@Coolbird00 Ай бұрын

She's back my baby is back!

@acemanph 4 ай бұрын

I agree on everything u said in the last few minutes, without it, sf and other fighting games might not have evolve.

@tyrant_uk 4 ай бұрын

For sure! Thanks for watching

@blackmanta2527 5 ай бұрын

Who's more broken sfv Luke or sf4 Elena?

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

It might be Luke after Capcom Cup LOL

@leandroborrego9780 5 ай бұрын

She was essentialy the character with most health in SF4

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Yep, she could build Ultra 3-4 times per round sometimes lol

@ryandeopante5317 5 ай бұрын

Easy patch. Make the healing recoverable health….

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Yep, or make it her Super instead

@pmf026 5 ай бұрын

Guile user here. I hate that matchup very much.

@pmf026 5 ай бұрын

I also hate fucking Rose and Viper, at least they don't heal...so they are manageable.

@mariaholanda1203 5 ай бұрын

I play this game in Brazil, so... Nobody knows how to play with this character. Thank God for that! ..^.^.. Awesome video!

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Shoutouts to the Brazil scene! Thanks :D

@falo4043 5 ай бұрын

Sério que tem uma comunidade de Sf4 por aqui? Nao sabia, vcs jogam por discord ou se eu for jogar online dá pra jogar de boa? Lembro q o netcode nao era dos melhores quando saiu

@jayro792 5 ай бұрын

I want her back along with the twins who were also broken. I just want Capcom to balance them right in SF6. Outside her brokenness she has interesting move sets and if they can come out with characters who only use punches then why not a character that only used kicks.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

For sure, I would gladly welcome back any character as long as they're balanced well! Elena, the twins or whoever

@Narutofreak155 5 ай бұрын

Funny i watch this video now because I always figured elena was busted because of the healing but man this definitely takes the cake lol 😂

@RyuFan1999 5 ай бұрын

Need SF4 to come back.. how? I don't know yet lol

@magicarpet101 5 ай бұрын

Decapre is worse imo, the recovery on her reversal is ridiculous. Rolento rolling attack also hard to counter. Ultra was such a bad way to end SF4.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Yeah Decapre was just ridiculous and that Rolento roll was toxic af lol

@ligneotetsvdo1341 4 ай бұрын

this opvs ruined Elena she was soooooooooooooo aggreable in 3s T-T)

@tyrant_uk 4 ай бұрын

Yeah it's a shame, she just didn't work in USF4

@ShinAkuma 5 ай бұрын

All that and she also has the jankiest hurtbox in the game. Setups that work on majority of the cast always whiff on her.

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Yeah it was so bad lol

@ShinAkuma 5 ай бұрын

@@tyrant_uk *is. They never patched the laste DLC characters lmao.

@eyezonly8593 Ай бұрын

I can hear it all now she heals she must be stopped yet nobody complaining about Gill.

@Harvey_Mod 5 ай бұрын

Yup. Healing should have been her Super. Would have reduced how ridiculous she was

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Facts

@aureliorubio7392 5 ай бұрын

No Abel and Seth where the reason.

@gtsavestheday6569 5 ай бұрын

It’s strange I played akuma, m.bison and sagat throughout the lifespan of sf4 (didn’t play sagat in vanilla) and never really had a problem with the most problematic characters as the game progressed. I even played evil ryu when he came out and was the number 2 evil ryu player online for a brief period, got as big as number 5 with m.bison. I never even found Elena to be much more than an annoyance. I was always most frustrated with Decapre. Certainly as well as I did though, I probably never quite faced the fiercest of players.

@vbby 5 ай бұрын

To be fair, I think all those characters did decent against her, I played Sagat and Yun and always had Sagat ready for Elena. I also had a tough time against Decapre though, hard to uppercut when she's flying around haha

@gtsavestheday6569 5 ай бұрын

@@vbby yeah you could be on to something there. I always seemed to be able to handle her shenanigans with relative ease. God like normals will do that.

@Feesh322 5 ай бұрын

USF4 was abandoned 1-2 patches a little too early because of SF5. It's too bad, but I'm a casual with only 300 hours of play on Steam. I play on Arcade mode only on Extremely Hard difficulty and highest round settings once or twice a week (trying not to lose a single round), and I have a great time. The game has its flaws, but it's still my favorite Street Fighter. At least until the time that USF6 is released, anyway. 😁

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

It's still my favourite Street Fighter game! I don't think her addition affected casual/single player modes at all, it was more the competitive scene that got heavily impacted by Elena. Hopefully we do get a USF6 one day lol. Thanks for watching!

@elmaster27428 Ай бұрын

Ya’ll just mad because ya’ll don’t like seeing your favorite getting the literal term of an asskicking because she only fights with her feet me I am happy and can’t wait til she’s playable in Street Fighter 6

@humaneshadow300 5 ай бұрын

I like Elena third strike but street fighter 4 no 😑 they could just Nerf the healing that's it

@JanKenTribeWorldWide 5 ай бұрын

Hate to be that Internet guy but i warned all of my buddies and the FGC in my area that this would happen if Capcom slapped Elena on the game. Especially with healing in HER KIT. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Nvm the fact her type of character playstyle the parry system from SF3 checked her if that makes sense. Elena/Bison/Sagat/Yun/Poison/E.Ryu Sheeshh lol

@eyezonly8593 Ай бұрын

Must've got clapped by Elena 😅

@gouken8926 5 ай бұрын

More plz

@Swix_FGC 5 ай бұрын

TBH i don't even have her in my top 5 Eryu, yun, akuma, seth and poison are all better than her and have much better matchup spreads. But shes deff 6th haha.

@positiveliberty 5 ай бұрын

but elena barely gains any life back in the clips shown?

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

The thing is she usually does it at the end of a combo which gives her even more of an advantage, or she can use Ultra 2-3 times per round. And it's at least 100 health every time depending on when she cancels it

@vbby 5 ай бұрын

Just enough to get a life advantage can swing the whole round in your favor, especially a game as defensive as USF4

@Brynhildrify 5 ай бұрын

This is why it's so cringe to say "just adapt bro". Most of the times the character's broken and needs a nerf

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, you can't really adapt to this stuff lol

@EijiShinjo48 5 ай бұрын

Like JP in Street Fighter 6

@flewis02 5 ай бұрын

Just change the way healing works and the amount..boom...easy fix

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Yep, ez fix tbh

@AntLeonardi01 5 ай бұрын

She was really nothing compared to sagat on release

@JonathonTheAsshole 5 ай бұрын

Yun was always more broken and actually won something because of it.

@bilalrashad6636 5 ай бұрын

She was better in Street Fighter 3

@Monhamd1000 5 ай бұрын

That's why no one wants Elena for SF6.

@XxKNIGHT742xX 5 ай бұрын

I do. Also Makoto and Necro, hell, even twelve.

@JanKenTribeWorldWide 5 ай бұрын

I hated that Elena was so busted because I liked the character in general & wanted to main her. And I'd like her back in some fashion But playing her in Ultra made you feel dirty. Plus I don't think Elena's moveset would survive in SF6. She's stuck in her move animations and overextends herself a lot😂. That'll get you murked hard in 7.

@jayro792 5 ай бұрын

I want her back

@knighttrademark 5 ай бұрын

I Guess that's why Elena is missed out from SFV

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

Yeah I think they realised everyone hated her lol

@MrCjosue24 4 ай бұрын

I never liked Elena

@tyrant_uk 4 ай бұрын

Lol I don't hate her but she was too much in this game

@dread1689 5 ай бұрын

that whole update ruined the game, so many stupid choices made by "community managers" who didn't really have any idea what they were doing. unblockable setups were a massive issue particularly at that point in the games lifecycle, but the remedy was so half assed. not to mention red focus was a straight ret@rded addition for certain characters throwing the balance further into question, all of the new characters were such low quality too as you've mentioned here. im still so salty about it after all these years😂

@bigolebot 5 ай бұрын

Usf4 was awful... Absolutely awful, the only good thing about that era of SF4 was the competition at its peak...

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

The regular events and competition were unmatched

@bigolebot 5 ай бұрын

@@tyrant_uk it was the fgc at its peak! Take me back to 2009-2015 :'(

@XXSTR8RYDAHXX 5 ай бұрын

Usf4 was great what you talking about lol

@juicejuice6675 5 ай бұрын

Naw u deadass wrong

@alexspyro563 5 ай бұрын

@@XXSTR8RYDAHXXyeah I love usf4 and the roster is awesome so why he doesn’t shut up and get out if he complains the game to someone

@MrPavySRK 5 ай бұрын

I still believe AE2012 was the best version of the game but ultra killed the game off along with bad new mechanics and trash alternative costumes

@evansdada2004 5 ай бұрын

F that character period

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

For sure LOL

@KenMasters. 5 ай бұрын

Nah, Decapre is what ruined Street Fighter IV's last edition. Just like how Remy ruined Street Fighter III's last edition.

@pastorofmuppets9346 5 ай бұрын

Hey good vid, always love me some sf4 analysis but the long cringy 2000s amv intro needs to go man. Its just an annoyance

@tyrant_uk 5 ай бұрын

I mean that's my channel intro, thanks for the feedback though lol

@carloz28 5 ай бұрын

No offence, but SF4 is probably the worst fighting game I've play up to date. The links are too tight and not appealing to casuals.

@Jurihan4life 5 ай бұрын

Seriously just get good.

@enricofermi 5 ай бұрын

Basketball is a terrible game. The rim is too high and I'm a 5'5 effeminate man who can't jump. Like seriously. What the heck are you talking about?

@Jurihan4life 5 ай бұрын

@@enricofermi Uh dude? Oh it's an analogy.

@carloz28 5 ай бұрын

Looks like i riled up some idiots in here, cant seem to have an opinion these days@@enricofermi

@enricofermi 5 ай бұрын

@@carloz28 Yes, you are entitled to your opinion that things that are challenging are inherently bad. I hope you don't apply it to other things in your life