I remember using him in ranked back in vanilla and getting compliments. not that I'm anything more than an average Gen player, I think people were glad to see a character other than Sagat, Ryu or Ken.

One thing about the "Passionate players" is that i see often people saying "oh imagine how they would be with a top tier character" but to me it's their sheer motivation in extracting the best of the shit character (like pachikasu with sean on 3 strike, love him) that drives them to become so good, if they suddenly started playing a top tier that kind of motivation probably would not be there and they would be just decent at best.

I picked up Gen because of Xian. It's such a fun character despite seeming a bit dry on the surface. You're always doing something, and stance-switch combos are fun to do even if most of them are unnecessary.

Good games and thanks for having me! I'm so happy for your success with fighting games and it inspires me to be a better content creator 👍

Jibbo and Sabre were considered "specialists" back then. They even had a specialist tourney just to highlight all the unique characters that normally didn't place in tourneys.

The tech explanation with the pianoing and the sliding was absolutely ace, love the thoroughness of the content and the obvious joy for the game in every bit of it🔥

That's why Gen is the best, true stances!😄 His jump and walk speed are also quite different and used to be even more so, they nerfed his jump quite a bit over time. Stance change takes 1 frame where you cannot block :( Another trick for MK > Hands that is.. depressing is after people really started passing around "plink" techniques it was discovered Gen can just.. basically mash MK + MP + HP and get hands (FADC too) super easy. All those hours practicing piano and people can just roll their face on the buttons T.T

Mad respect to gen players. That stance change looks rough. But the variety of movesets definitely makes gen look fun.

I remember my dad maining Gen in 4. In fact he did pretty well with him. Looking back on it, and also watching this, my dad was kinda gaming

That combo at 14:00 was actual insanity, didn't expect to see an actual match, but it was great! Great video man.

I remember discovering Gen's ways in SF4 during the trials. I never knew you could combo into another stance. The stances were always cool, but Crane stance intimidated me.

Loving the S4 content. The nostalgia is strong

Hands down my fav SF4 character. He's difficult but has everything I like in a fg character. To this day I don't think I've found a character in any other game that clicked as well as Gen did.

Thanks for showing the inputs on camera and explaining - I'm a very casual fighting game player who just plays Ryu and my friend plays Ken but I find all this stuff interesting

JM I always love your deep dives on specific topics. Thank you!!!!!!

Any fighting game content from jmcrofts is always entertaining to watch.

So happy to see you covering my favorite 2d fighting main 🙏🏼🙏🏼 he needs the love, underrated and hard, especially stance switch parry stuff!

Always love these vids. Your breakdowns of lesser known characters, along with knowledge of the old school meta is super interesting. Best channel for this kinda content, keep it up!

I came across your channel a couple years ago with DBFZ and i liked your proficiency with 18 and crilin, then i lost your for some times, just watching aome FGC history content now and then. But in these days i am longing for your content on street fighter. I am really in love with your SF3 and SF4 contents related.

Gen is one of the most interesting characters in the SF universe. Watching high-level Gen play is awesome

man, i remember watching jibbo with gen, seeing his gen comboes were always hype. him and smug dudley play their chars was a joy to see.

I was just thinking about this character today and you make a video about him

I haven't played Street Fighter since 2 on Suoer Nintendo. I've been watching your videos the last few months and I think I am going to pick up 6 if it is good. Your enthusiasm is infectious. Thank you for sharing your passion for fighting games

Xian has immortalized Gen.

AKA Why I add stances to my MK11 Variation AI Battles Geras does Big Fist Liu Kang does Stance REPEAT A DOZEN TIMES XD

SF4 was my debut into competitive fighting, then my first match ever was against DAMDAI.... well i like watching now.

Great vid as always! Do Fei Long please!

I used to be good with Gen in the old Alpha series, been years since i played him. Nice to see a vid on him

I used him for a while back in... SSF4 and on I think it was. I was the only one in local tourneys who used him so I had fun swapping stances each round to completely change how each round went. Some things you didn't mention: 1. Super into ultra. He is one of the few characters who can get full (and obscene) damage by resource dumping. The Mantis stance super can go into either Mantis ultra 1 or Crane ultra 1 with minimal problems. 2. His DP requires weird timing to get all the hits. And if you get blocked you float for a second which can (as you experienced) avoid 360s. 3. His low fierce in Crane stance (I think that's the charge stance) does extra damage on counter hits. Of course it has so much start up that you need to get a good read for it to work. 4. Crane stance low forward goes under most fireballs. Of course as someone who was still learning how to use him this wasn't something I'd remember mid-match, but it's fun to stall out fireball throwers by just ducking under them. 5. Stance changes don't just impact jump arc and speed. Focus attack has different properties (range specifically), and I think walk speed are different depending on which stance you're in. There might be other changes, but I don't recall them off hand. Overall Gen was one of my "mains". Considering I used like 5 different characters, I don't even know which was my main outside of Ryu.

Really entertaining video. Auto was playing hella sweaty lol

11:10 The one from Super and onward is Jamieson Price, who has also serves as the announcer of the Mortal Kombat games since 9.

@jmcrofts You can do Gen's standing MK xx Heavy Hands with the piano method. I usually use my thumb and index finger to hit MK and LP at the same time and then continue on with the rest of the piano method. (MK+LP, HP, MP, LP, HP) You still get the 5 inputs required for hands and the MK takes priority over the LP. I was a Honda main in SF4 and this was the method that I used for CR.MK xx Hands

AutoMattock was really entertaining ^_^ Glad you had some matches with him.

Gotta also show love to YEB who was also one of the first top level Gens from back there. Jibbo was the first I saw play a Japanese player, DAIGO, of all people and use Gen. Jibbo was also nasty in SFxT.

Stance characters are very interesting, indeed.

I'm not a Gen player, but the input I use for strong into heavy hands is mp, hp, mp, lp, hp. And then one of his most useful combos is st mp linked into the hp, mk target combo cancelled into heavy hands.

Those were some great matches.

Gen, to me, represents an important part of the fighting game journey. The: "whoa i want to do THAT." Picking a few things like, waterfall kicks, or the target combo into hands, or super into ultra. Letting these things make you go "alright, i may not learn the rest of the character, but I want to do that!" Then you end up learning more. Anyone else do this with other characters?

I used to love Lei in Tekken 3. He had the most unpredictable moves because he could toggle back and forth between different animal stances and catch the most experienced players with a wide range of combos and follow ups.

Nice handcam tech !

I would love more of this

Hey, you're my favourite FGC streamer! I'd love to see more umvc3 content! Or even some usf4 dhalsim! Liked all your videos and subscribed!

I like these videos ... i would play you for sure - reminds me of playing Alpha 3 back in the day

I always made the joke 1st playing him that this dude was from 'Da _actual_ Streets Throwing up "Gen" Signs, reppin' his set, mainly because I am so trash at SF4, I just randomly switch stances after every punch😂.

Gen is my favorite character in the series. SFA2 I played him. We need another character similar to him Zeku was a character I enjoyed in SF5. Hopefully ,they bring a dual-stance character like Gen or Zeku. I think Jamie has a second stance of sort after he drinks 4 times. Seems like some of his moves are different but nothing like Gen or Zeku.

5:15 I'm glad I'm not the only one who had to come up with this tech, for me it was for SF5 Blanka of all characters! The *only* option blanka has off of crouching medium kick that doesn't require charge and won't whiff is EX Electricity, and in SF5 you NEED a good hit confirm off of crouching medium kick or you just don't have neutral. Even after all this time, it's still a very physically uncomfortable tech to execute, too.

Can We Just Appreciate How Hard He Does to Make Us Enjoy!

Seeing Gen and Ryu on the screen at the same time makes me nostalgic

Man, didnt realize how old sf4 was. Feels like it came out only like 6 years ago lol

Gen is awesome! Picked him up in Alpha 2!

My favorite SF character. He is one of my mains in SF Alpha. Never got into SF4 because i just couldn't deal with the graphics so not sure how much similar he is but i love playing him.

I remember first playing as Gen in the Street Fighter Alpha series back in the 90s.

This is so much more interesting to watch than anything that has come out of SF5 imo.

Stance characters are some of my favorites because their tech can get super wacky. I’m a Lei main in Tekken, but the idea of learning Gen always seemed like a huge mountain to climb given the execution necessary to use him. Nevertheless he’s suuuuuuuper dope.

did our golden boy throw in a censor @13:04 ? bless his pure heart

Getting really good with a supposedly awful character is hilarious =D I love that, because most people are like 'how the f'k do I fight this?' They don't prepare for such rare opponents, because the chances of being up against one is so low.

Gen was my main from vanilla until 2012. And I love Mario kick.

I’d love to see more SF4 content, this game is so entertaining due to it’s depth.

This is the stance _/_/

I always liked old masters, and I kinda just picked up Gen and mained him in Alpha 2 and in SFIV. Gen is the king of pokes and confusing crossup divekicks. I love it. I'm not good at him at all, but I still love him :D

Keep up the SFIV vids man! I'd love to see some Blanka love

3:39 walks forward in Mantis… Walks backwards in Crane…

Can we see some umvc3 character breakdowns one day!

How do you hit that combo @ 14:07 in online SF4?! That's bonkers

14:06 SICK combo!

I hated playing against this guy bruh- hes so good. Gen players are incredibly crazy

I loved playing gen online so much fun to use

While Chun’s SFVI Stance is a fair bit different from Gen’s it’s cool that she has one as a kind of allusion to her master. I think it’s neat

Hell yea, this my guy. Really hope he comes back, dead or not. Absolute badass and my favorite in all of SF.

Way more content like this man. Usf4 matches and characters!! Let's do viper and fuerte! Get latif on here, he loves his community! Or Abel with strider as the player

I recommend watching Xiao Lon's gameplay. She is from KOF Maximum Impact Regulation A And she has an unique gameplay because she has *three fighting stances* where she can change during the match. Also, her special moves were good and her movility was excellent (she has the fastest teleport in the game) Xiao Lon was top 3 in the tier list, she is not easy to master but when you learn how to play as her, you will have a great time.

I have soft spot for USF 4, the game that introduces me to watch FG tournament. 10 years later this game still looking so good regardless of the release of SF6

I've never played a fighting game seriously, I wouldn't even know where to start, what with footsies, fuzzys and meatys its all a bit intimidating, and I dont think streetfighter would be the game I choose to play, but I've really been enjoying your content!

Gen is so difficult to play but I gotta say I think viper is a bit more difficult. Messing up one jump cancel can end so terribly and the execution of her advanced stuff is crazy but she also has crazy utility like meterless fadc combos

It's like Gen is a pre-cursor to Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance and Mortal Kombat Deception.

Aaah gen. The one character that i learned to play Exclusively, to beat my older brother in alpha 3.

Great rounds! lol

I forgot about the Mario looking background character in the back ground during the T.Hawk vs Gen battle

_"You son of a gun!"_ - AutoMattock

I just found Gen interesting, and my friend couldn't understand how I was able to play him on pad

Early on yeb was beasting too

Did u get your crane & mantis in reverse?

I remember Tokido crushing it with Gen, maybe i'm mis-remembering

I got hit by his wack infinite in ranked once, from that point on every time i played against a gen i got flashbacks. its terrifying.

Wait who's playing that old..till now

Is that first character the telekinesis dude from Boah?

He was my main in Alpha 2 Gold , man i would go crazy if they added him to SF6.

I've loved Gen's characters since SF1, I even bought the SOTA figure but yeah I couldn't use him very well except for X-ism in Alpha 3. The simplified version had less options but man it was easier to use him. I didn't have as many problems with Zeku!

Hi JM. I have been following your channel for a couple of years. I see that everytime you talk about street fighter you never mention the EX 2 Plus series from Ps1 and Ps2. I know that it wasn't very popular among the hardcore fan base. However I loved it back in those days. Would you make a video explaining why it was so unpopular?

Gen kinda reminds me of Lei in Tekken with the stance dancing.

Aayy and AutoMattock is in the vid too He does awesome stuff Hope he makes more content

People who weren't into Street Fighter back then should google some of Xian's matches with Gen - he made it to the highest levels of competition with a super unorthodox and execution-heavy character!

Gen started in SFA3 (after SF1, of course). Back then, literally _nobody_ played Gen, and I'm not even sure what a top-tier Gen would look like. Another thing about Gen were _chain combos,_ which few other characters had back then (only Guy and Cody I think.) He could chain off his overhead, which was neat.

"Gen is so complex!" Tekken/Soul Calibur fans: "Lol."

One of my greatest memories of playing Gen was pulling off a 80%~ combo with him. It required the super meter and ultra meter, where you did the super move where he dashes forward, then switch stances so you can do the ultra which is an anti air. The super barely lifts the target up in the air, but it had to be frame perfect. There was definitely a little more to the combo than what I said, but man does it hype you up when you execute it!

Should I go back and try 4? Never played it but its available on ps plus (old ps now)

The new SF6 character Jamie is Gen, Yun/Yang, and Elena wrapped in one.

You can p-link cr mk+lp then piano input the hand slaps

You all should try medium execution characters in Tekken

10:16 son ova gun 🤣