This Civil War Submarine Vanished for 136 Years

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Caitlin Doughty

Caitlin Doughty

2 ай бұрын

A Civil War submarine powered by hand cranks and lit by candlelight. What could possibly go wrong? Meet the HL Hunley.
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Thank you to Nick DeLong from Clemson University and Kellen Butler from Friends of the Hunley at Warren Lasch Conservation Center.
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Writer & Researcher: Louise Hung (@LouiseHung1)
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Producer: Sarah Chavez
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SELECTED SOURCES/FURTHER READING
Chaffin, Tom.The H. L. Hunley: The Secret Hope of the Confederacy
Hill and Wang, 2010.
Hicks, Brian. Sea of Darkness: Unraveling the Mysteries of the H.L. Hunley
Spry Publishing LLC, 2015.
Hicks, Brian, and Kropf, Schuyler. Raising the Hunley: The Remarkable History and Recovery of the Lost Confederate SubmarinePresidio Press, 2003
Lance, Rachel. In the Waves: My Quest to Solve the Mystery of a Civil War Submarine. Dutton, 2020
The Friends of the Hunley www.hunley.org/
"H. L. Hunley: Recovery Operations "www.history.navy.mil/research...
"H.L. Hunley Site Assessment "www.nps.gov/parkhistory/onlin...
"Humanitarian Exhumation at the Citadel's Johnson Hagood Stadium" scholarcommons.sc.edu/cgi/vie...
"HUNLEY (C.S.S)"numa.net/expeditions/hunley-c...
"Crewmen of Recovered Confederate Sub Are Honored at Burial" www.nytimes.com/2004/04/18/na...
"Putting a Face on Storied Subs Crew" www.washingtonpost.com/archiv...

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@AskAMortician
@AskAMortician 2 ай бұрын
If you haven't seen the announcement-- I'm writing a book about the dead bodies of the Titanic. This is a project I've been planning for years, and now I get to devote myself to it almost full time. Don't worry, our team will never let go (NOT A PUN) of creating for this KZfaq channel as well. Trust me, everyone who has tried to escape ends up coming back because it's gratifying and fun. If you're interested in updates about researching the book, new documentaries the team is working on, or just the ramblings of Caitlin- your two best options are Patreon (which now has a free subscriber option alongside paid options) and Instagram. Or follow the Order of the Good Death, where *10 states!!!* have now legalized human composting thanks to people like you. xx Caitlin
@vulture1978
@vulture1978 2 ай бұрын
Ooohh, sounds interesting!!
@carschmn
@carschmn 2 ай бұрын
Glad you’re well and your heart is going on.
@LimeyRedneck
@LimeyRedneck 2 ай бұрын
🖤💜
@CainusCreepus
@CainusCreepus 2 ай бұрын
I missed you!!! Can't wait to buy and read that book!
@evewolfe4295
@evewolfe4295 2 ай бұрын
Can't wait to read it!
@acynonyx
@acynonyx 2 ай бұрын
Was NOT ready for the reveal that Caitlin is SIX FOOT ONE
@misstekhead
@misstekhead 2 ай бұрын
I remember watching her TED talk some years back. I could immediately tell she had to be at least 6 ft tall. I’m a little jealous of her. 😅 I always wanted to be a tall, domineering woman. Especially as I was a short gymnast for a good portion of my life. It sucks having almost everyone else tower over you.
@diagnosedgamer
@diagnosedgamer 2 ай бұрын
We love a tall queen 👏
@danidarko_
@danidarko_ 2 ай бұрын
i had to pause the video to digest that fact
@alexw.7097
@alexw.7097 2 ай бұрын
*Overwhelmed short king noises*
@dahliablack1236
@dahliablack1236 2 ай бұрын
I could always tell that she was tall, but I had no idea she was THAT tall. Like, a full foot taller than me is not what I expected.
@clinkerclint
@clinkerclint Ай бұрын
Fun story, I was a part of the crew that raised her in the summer of 2000. Something not mentioned in the video is that all of the dirt/muck around the sub was sucked up through tubing and ran through a sluice box on the boat we were working off of. I was watching the sluice boxes one day and this bent, shinny gold thing about the size of a half dollar shows up. I was SO EXCITED!!! I just KNEW I had found the gold coin! I grabbed it and ran it to the archeologist working in the trailer that day....Well, it wasn't the gold coin but I had found a part of a pump that was eating itself alive. I sure was excited for a minute 😆
@DarkestElemental616
@DarkestElemental616 Ай бұрын
Well, you kept the pump running properly, and were there for a really cool historical event to boot! Not a bad haul, in the end.
@bartonbella3131
@bartonbella3131 Ай бұрын
I'm Southern... every one of us dreams of digging up a jar of Confederate gold😂
@MaiTai16
@MaiTai16 Ай бұрын
That is indeed a fun story! Sometimes there is gold in the comments section 😂
@theoddbody1856
@theoddbody1856 Ай бұрын
Wow, what an amazing project to be a part of!
@emperorpalpatine9897
@emperorpalpatine9897 Ай бұрын
I can only imagine what ran through archaeologist Maria Jacobsen's mind when she plunged her hand into the muck and pulled up Lt. Dixon's lucky charm!
@JoshyCC
@JoshyCC Ай бұрын
Girl, sometimes you land your lines just so perfectly! "I'm sorry, sailors, widows, and orphans; I hope you like football." I nearly spit out my coffee laughing! 🤣
@adamsims3116
@adamsims3116 Ай бұрын
😂me too
@quenepacrossing4675
@quenepacrossing4675 2 ай бұрын
The mere concept of a submarine deep in the ocean only lit by candles and only powered by hand cranking deeply upsets my soul in a way i did not expect. That is the scariest shit i’ve ever heard.
@AverageAmerican
@AverageAmerican 2 ай бұрын
Right? Can you imagine your master pointing at that subtomb and telling you, you will be test driving it? _/sigh_
@transsnack
@transsnack 2 ай бұрын
Horrifying in practice, interesting in video game potential.
@stuartd9741
@stuartd9741 2 ай бұрын
4ft X 4ft... Truly claustrophobic..
@ViirinSoftworks
@ViirinSoftworks 2 ай бұрын
Because fire consumes oxygen as well?
@meoff7602
@meoff7602 2 ай бұрын
​@@ViirinSoftworksLol, yeah and oxygen tanks hadn't been invited yet.
@daltonwilson2553
@daltonwilson2553 2 ай бұрын
Caitlin just entered her “middle aged dad history buff” era and I’m all here for it
@AshesAshes44
@AshesAshes44 2 ай бұрын
As the daughter of a middle aged history buff/teacher, it's a lovely situation in which to find oneself!
@lindajohnsonkaplan647
@lindajohnsonkaplan647 Ай бұрын
Lots of us middle aged folks are steeped in learning and discovering more history.
@reaganbrownfnafoc428
@reaganbrownfnafoc428 Ай бұрын
Sameeeee
@krisaguilar6699
@krisaguilar6699 Ай бұрын
I think she switched to history because she doesn't want to deal with any pesky questions about those long, white rubbery clots that morticians have been pulling out of cadavers since the beginning of 2021.
@richardcallihan9746
@richardcallihan9746 Ай бұрын
Graves under Palmetto Trees, Please those were oaks.
@OcotilloTom
@OcotilloTom Ай бұрын
I'm a civil war reenactor that got to "crew the Hunley" twice about 18 years ago. Once at the annual Civil War Remembered event in Fresno, Calif and once at the California Railroad Museum in Sacramento. The full size replica Hunley under the guidance of Mr. John Dangerfield was making the rounds of the country at the time to raise funds for research of the original. Our Hunley had side panels that could be taken off to allow the visiting public to observe the "crew' in place working the various controls like dive planes, snorkel (which was not used during the attack) drop ballast and hand pumps. For our help we were presented with a replica of the gold coin that was found on Capt. Dixon in the submarine. I accumulated something like 20 hours "on board"
@CCNuck
@CCNuck Ай бұрын
That sounds like such an incredible experience!
@gregoryvn3
@gregoryvn3 Ай бұрын
That's kinda amazing. 😮
@crusaderknight4792
@crusaderknight4792 Ай бұрын
Was it dangerous?
@doggolovescheese1310
@doggolovescheese1310 Ай бұрын
Very cool! And fascinating
@thomgizziz
@thomgizziz Ай бұрын
@@crusaderknight4792 probably wasn't in the water because then people couldn't see it.
@vivianarickert8230
@vivianarickert8230 Ай бұрын
This is the first time im watching you since my dad passed away and I just want to thank you for your advocacy for good death. Out of curiosity I went to your charity website to see what the good death was all about and I started tearing up when you mentioned how corrupt the funeral industry is. Luckily, the funeral home my aunt chose treated us well and was very caring and is flexible to those in need, and didn't break our banks when we went down to iowa where he spent his final days in hospice with my aunt to celebrate him. I know that many however did not have such luxury and as a teenager still facing the death of her dad, thank you for humanizing death. Thank you
@silirat
@silirat 2 ай бұрын
"Yay! My favourite mortician!" is not a phrase that I ever expected to say, let alone honestly mean. But here we are.
@jwood2175
@jwood2175 2 ай бұрын
Right?! "Sweet the good mortician posted a video!" wasn't something I ever expected I'd say.
@misspatvandriverlady7555
@misspatvandriverlady7555 2 ай бұрын
I will be forever thankful that Caitlin inspired me to convince my husband that we should set up a joint burial location, even though we were only just turning 40 and 44, as our wishes were complex; both practicing Catholics, but he wanted a burial and I wanted a cremation… we respected eachother’s wishes, but wanted to be together… in March 2022, we purchased a burial plot we agreed was in a lovely, convenient location in a Catholic cemetery; in April, we selected a headstone for us both which could also contain a compartment for my ashes. In May, my husband was diagnosed was esophageal cancer; not a good prognosis. In July, undergoing radiation and chemo but still able to get around okay, he was able to visit our newly placed headstone, take a picture of it, and tell me he thought it looked good. In August, he took a sudden turn for the worse and never really recovered, though he was able to spend most of his final few weeks and days at home. He died October 1, 2022. Making the funeral arrangements was terribly difficult, of course, but at least I knew where he was being buried, that he had helped select the location and our headstone, and that this was therefore not something for his family to disagree with me about. We had already settled it between us. I recommend this path for all couples; even if you are young and think you have decades of healthy life ahead; ESPECIALLY if you have wishes beyond “cremate me and I don’t care what you do with the cremains!”! 😤
@kryw10
@kryw10 2 ай бұрын
Yes!
@robinoconnor553
@robinoconnor553 2 ай бұрын
So very happy our favorite mortician is back! Solo much better than the drama queen TikTok fake mortician! Looking at you, Lauren.
@MissKellyBean
@MissKellyBean 2 ай бұрын
Omg Caitlin's back!!! 😊😊😊❤❤❤
@EmberMoonprincess92
@EmberMoonprincess92 2 ай бұрын
She’s back!
@elsbet1656
@elsbet1656 2 ай бұрын
She's just checking in 😂
@kristiemarsh49
@kristiemarsh49 2 ай бұрын
Hurray 🎉❤Love you,girl!!!
@susanfanning9480
@susanfanning9480 2 ай бұрын
Yay!!Yaya!!! And I know that particular sub. Brilliant invention.
@EmberMoonprincess92
@EmberMoonprincess92 2 ай бұрын
@@elsbet1656 it’s like a wellness check but her offering us content to let us know she’s still around 😂
@montanathemystic
@montanathemystic 2 ай бұрын
Prayed for this omg
@keithwest2257
@keithwest2257 Ай бұрын
Bravo, Caitlin. I worked on The Hunley preservation project in its early days, promoting the campaign to raise the H.L. Hunley, and ultimately, place it in a world-class museum. The Hunley's development is one of the most fascinating chapters in American, and global, maritime history.
@SubVet84
@SubVet84 Ай бұрын
As a submarine veteran, it is the sacrifices that so many submariners and submarines made, that has allowed modern subs to be as valuable and powerful as they are today! Never forget those submariners on Eternal Patrol!
@rocbolt
@rocbolt 2 ай бұрын
In middle school (90s) we were learning about the civil war and I mentioned the Hunley which I thought was the coolest thing ever and was told a civil war submarine was not a thing! How preposterous! I had to bring an armful of books in the next day to prove it and got to be smug the rest of the year
@rocbolt
@rocbolt 2 ай бұрын
(and yes my dad was a Clive Cussler fan lol)
@diannadeeley5402
@diannadeeley5402 2 ай бұрын
People are amazing when they see something that doesn't fit their preconceptions.
@sholem_bond
@sholem_bond 2 ай бұрын
Most teachers are great, but teachers (and "experts" in general) who are convinced they know it all and that they never need to learn any new information, probably do a lot of damage to their students' or followers' understanding of how learning and information/facts (and thus "expertise") actually work.
@genevarockeman9721
@genevarockeman9721 2 ай бұрын
YEEEES. I love sailing in to class (pun intended) all smug with Fun Facts. Once had to look up 'universal expressions' on Wikipedia for my Intercultural Theory professor who was SURE I was talking a lot of nonsense. 💅
@Bildgesmythe
@Bildgesmythe 2 ай бұрын
I corrected a teacher 3 times, once it improved my grades, twice the teacher hated me thereafter.
@janicew9
@janicew9 2 ай бұрын
My husband affectionately refers to Caitlin as "that scary lady" and he has been asking for weeeeeks if there is a new scary lady video we can watch. He will be THRILLED when I tell him this is our Saturday night plan lol
@ipshitajee
@ipshitajee 2 ай бұрын
But she's so funny thoo
@annaturgeon83
@annaturgeon83 2 ай бұрын
My husband similarly calls her the creepy lady but also loves her videos
@ducciwucci
@ducciwucci 2 ай бұрын
@@ipshitajee 2 things can be true at the same time
@gingergoodner9363
@gingergoodner9363 2 ай бұрын
Death flix and chill!
@ipshitajee
@ipshitajee 2 ай бұрын
@@gingergoodner9363 exactly!!!
@madisoncorley4637
@madisoncorley4637 Ай бұрын
As a South Carolinian this story was my first historical obsession. The egregious sins of my ancestors coupled with the claustrophobic terror of the submarine was something I couldn’t look away from. My state’s dedication to atrocity and the horrific technologies it employed for that cause fostered a lifelong dedication to unlearning the “Lost Cause” propaganda that surrounded me, and Caitlin’s coverage of this story is the epitome of what matters so much to me as a historian. Thank you for this!
@WilliamDollar-yl3ee
@WilliamDollar-yl3ee Ай бұрын
How about the atrocity of 65,000,000 American babies being murdered under Roe v. Wade since 1972? Most were black babies.
@ae1586
@ae1586 22 күн бұрын
Speak for yourself . The sons of South Carolina fought and died to defend our state from an invading army . Secession was legal and allowed by the 10th amendment . I am not ashamed of my ancestors , nor do I believe your righteous cause bullshit . Lincoln was a tyrant and was described as such by his own cabinet . The war was not about slavery - Lincoln wanted the southern states to rejoin the union and collect the tariffs at the port and if they did he proposed they be allowed to keep slaves until 1900 (his address to Congress dec 1 1862 ) . But yes atone for your whiteness and cower in shame
@darthroden
@darthroden 13 күн бұрын
Holy fuck, can you say you are a simp any harder? SMH.
@CosmiccCreations
@CosmiccCreations Ай бұрын
Caitlin, I just wanted to say I'm very thankful for you and your videos. Losing my mom back in 2019 & my sister a year after was the roughest time of my life and I had a very negative outlook on death at first due to it, viewing it as nothing more than a thief. It wasn't until I came across your videos later on in that time that my views started to shift, I didn't just learn to accept that death was a natural stage in life, but I was able to find the beauty in it too & overcome my grief. As well as continue living my own life again after essentially 'giving up' on living myself and being on autopilot during those years . I may not check as often anymore, but rest assure I still hold you and your content as important factors that helped me when I needed it. I can't appreciate you enough for how you approach death in a respectful, comforting, yet lighthearted way and essentially saved my life in the process. I hope you continue creating videos & wish you nothing but success and happiness. I wouldn't be at the place I'm at now if it weren't for you, and I'm sure fellow viewers/subscribers can also relate the same on this. From the bottom of my heart, thank you
@nathanjasper512
@nathanjasper512 2 ай бұрын
"Sir the submarine Corp has sunk, and the camel Corp has run away." "Well, now I'm afraid to even ask you about the elephant corp."
@ttintagel
@ttintagel 2 ай бұрын
At least we still have the Balloon Corps.
@carolinecagle3266
@carolinecagle3266 2 ай бұрын
I was listening, rather than watching the video at this point and I straight-up heard "US camelcore" and my mind exploded with the aesthetic possibilities...
@charlotteshenkenberger345
@charlotteshenkenberger345 2 ай бұрын
The fact you're telling me the Submarine Corp sunk means it sunk incorrectly.
@richeybaumann1755
@richeybaumann1755 2 ай бұрын
Well, they were going great... but then some guy showed up with our missing camels, loaded them with flaming wood and straw, and ran them at our elephants.
@seanshea8596
@seanshea8596 2 ай бұрын
Elephant Core is my new workout.
@tylerbhumphries
@tylerbhumphries 2 ай бұрын
Acknowledge and celebrate are two very different things. I’m a Black woman born in raised in St. Louis, Missouri. I sat through this whole video enthralled by what I was learning because I think it’s very important to learn things even if you don’t like it. Now going forward, I will acknowledge the existence of this sub and its three crews and the man behind the madness but you won’t catch me celebrating it. That’s my take on these things.
@pyenygren2299
@pyenygren2299 2 ай бұрын
As a blenda white scandinavian woman, I agree with you that there is a difference in acknowledge and celebrate.
@thisorthat629
@thisorthat629 2 ай бұрын
this should be like (actual academic) coverage of wwii axis tech. i know death and compassion is her whole thing, but in that case maybe just don't (just don't cover the topic, or just don't as in stay purely technical)? if she feels to absolutely have to, at least make very clear how f* up confederacy was. put into context non historic part, eg both graveyard part, weren't better this video was too tame/humanizing, put nicely. eg elon musk comparison these people were f* up, drive the point home and don't leave it for interpretation
@Reticulating-Splines
@Reticulating-Splines 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Erasure of the past and the truth is what *they* do, not what we do. As a bw and the family genealogist, there is no part of American history we have not participated in, this included. Shutting it down and ignoring it is just disrespectful to those of us that came before.
@bonnielbailey
@bonnielbailey 2 ай бұрын
It’s history! There’s good and bad, and all should be acknowledged. We learn nothing from what is hidden.
@chrisdelawder7890
@chrisdelawder7890 2 ай бұрын
Aa defendant of a Confederate soldier and a proud Southern Confederate, I salute the men that perished aboard the CSS Hunley, but I get so sick of narrators saying that the War of Northern Aggression was about supporting slavery when it wasn't. This typical Yankee Federal government propaganda used to divide the American people. If you want to know why we went to war against the North, read books and the documents written during the time. Abraham Lincoln, the man Yankees praise as the President who freed the Slaves, had no love for blacks. If Booth had not shot Lincoln at Ford's Theatre, there would be no blacks in this country because Lincoln was going to have them all shipped back to Africa. Think about that, while you are whistling DIXIE! If you don't believe me, read the books on Lincoln's searches and papers that he wrote while still alive.
@madamlt5758
@madamlt5758 Ай бұрын
Gosh this was such a sad one. Can’t even imagine what all of those poor men went through in their last moments 😞 Rip to every crew member that lost their lives in this underwater tomb.
@PutRandomNameHere
@PutRandomNameHere Ай бұрын
As a librarian, I wasn't ready for the Cussler reveal. Amazing, lol
@hellaradusername
@hellaradusername 2 ай бұрын
This submarine defeated so many Confederates just by repeatedly sinking the Union should've awarded it the Medal of Honor
@black_rabbit_0f_inle805
@black_rabbit_0f_inle805 2 ай бұрын
Posthumously
@itsknotmagic
@itsknotmagic 2 ай бұрын
I had to read that a few times....that was a roundabout way to say it was a bit of a failure
@sarahakin
@sarahakin 2 ай бұрын
I just laughed inappropriately and I blame YOU.
@4649kasumi
@4649kasumi 2 ай бұрын
my thoughts exactly, I salute the hunley for her work
@templarw20
@templarw20 2 ай бұрын
@@sarahakin Seems totally appropriate, to me.
@fretforyourpilot
@fretforyourpilot 2 ай бұрын
regarding your question at the end: I'm also a Civil War reenactor. I reenact as a cavalryman for both the Confederacy and the Union. I believe that we should let ourselves be curious and appreciate artifacts like the Hunley for what she is, but simultaneously not forget her intention. The purpose of the Hunley - something meant to aid the Confederacy - provides the context in which we should view her in, and she should not be isolated from it. I saw a post somewhere saying that learning history should make us uncomfortable. I believe the Hunley shouldn't be sanitized of her ties to the Confederacy. But, we can still appreciate her as a marvel of technology for the time.
@ibbyseed
@ibbyseed 2 ай бұрын
I’m gonna reenact ur conception with ur mom later
@stuartd9741
@stuartd9741 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree. An often quote now an interwebs meme from philosopher George Santayana; _Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it_ .. No truer words spoken.. Today there does seem like a lot of repetition going on....
@ValeaAlvida
@ValeaAlvida 2 ай бұрын
Perfectly said.
@Mmehistorique
@Mmehistorique 2 ай бұрын
Civil war public historian, yeah. These are all subjects worthy of preservation or study. And in some cases that means being confronted by the horrors of the past. And some subjects may be deeply deeply uncomfortable. There is a line of respect and reverence that must be paid, but never let that tread on glorifying or romanticizing or idolizing.
@JoyPeace-ej2uv
@JoyPeace-ej2uv 2 ай бұрын
@@stuartd9741 Then you need to look up the legislation that triggered the secession. The new looms that were automated using cards from France then England now in NY (robber barons stole the plans) and they wanted to force the cotton suppliers from the south to sell only to New England at below cost prices to compete internationally. SO the Congress mandated it. The new slaves were in those bustling Garment Districts. The old slaves were about to be set free but could not be under the crushing new legislation. The north set a new example of economic slavery, share cropping. So suddenly to fill orders to France was illegal and traitorous even though the orders predated the law. The ship leaving port was fired on by our Navy. That is how it started the South was fired on then seceded. Are you telling me you would not sign up to defend your house your town when the US Navy is shooting at ships in your harbor and the Army comes marching down your street? Sets up in your neighbors house and commandeers food and supplies? I had brothers from the same family on both sides of the war. My great grandmother as an infant was evacuated ahead of Sherman's troops out of Atlanta. BTW the new weaving card system was eventually adapted to mainframe computers the system I learned in the Army. Then moved to desktops and I assembled and taught those and the software to run them. My son is a master programmer. We learned have you? Or are you a sitting duck for the new legislation giving the advantage to someone else in our country that is not you? Like BlackRock (Putin pointed out most of that money Zelensky said went to fortifications, Putin says what fortifications?). Insider traders like Pelosi. No troops on the border. Hardly any border patrol. But free housing using your and my taxes for the "invaders" coming across it. Any free housing for severely disabled Vets?
@EluraCorenBooks
@EluraCorenBooks Ай бұрын
Within minutes of this starting, my brain kept saying, "Man, this sounds so similar to the plot of Sahara. Wonder if it was the influence for the hunt for the Texas." And then you added that "I'm looking for a boat" clip, shortly after linking Clive Cussler, and I just started laughing.
@travisfletcher182
@travisfletcher182 Ай бұрын
I was talking with my boss at work and he just casually drops the facts that he was one of the head divers that recovered the Hunley did research and sure enough his name is credited as such . What a fucking legend
@olympian00
@olympian00 2 ай бұрын
i think it’s so interesting that this channel now focuses so much on using death as a vessel of telling history and the stories of people’s lives. it’s a really cool aspect of the normalization of death that should be explored more!
@cattymajiv
@cattymajiv Ай бұрын
You are so right!
@hambeastdelicioso1600
@hambeastdelicioso1600 Ай бұрын
After my dad passed from an illness that I cared for him in his home throughout and took around three weeks to take him, I was left with what I now think was possibly a mild case of PTSD. In any case, I was obsessed with my own mortality in an unhealthy way and never told anyone how I was feeling. It wasn't until several years later that I watched my first video of Caitlin's and was hooked. Eight years later, I now know that I definitely want to be composted when I go. The thought leaves me content and I have been able to make the end of life decisions that would have filled me with unbearable anxiety after my dad's death. This channel has been very therapeutic for me; so much so that I was actually able to be with my MIL when she passed in our home four years later. So, yes! Death is normal and we need to say that more. History is filled with it! So, this seems a natural progression.
@lalaithan
@lalaithan Ай бұрын
Yes, we have separated someone's death from their life. I've been reconstructing my ancestors' stories and there are fascinating things so-called "normal" peoples' lives can tell us.
@billythekid3234
@billythekid3234 Ай бұрын
@@hambeastdelicioso1600 AMEN,,,,,,
@loorthedarkelf8353
@loorthedarkelf8353 Ай бұрын
Fully agreed. Part of saying goodbye is looking back to when you first said hello.
@littlemau1360
@littlemau1360 2 ай бұрын
SHE HAS RETURNED
@anniejuan1817
@anniejuan1817 2 ай бұрын
Our Queen has posted a video! Our Queen as posted a Video!
@ducsinh
@ducsinh Ай бұрын
Being a history buff all my life, I always find your videos captivating and satisfyingly nerdy. Per your question to the viewing audience, I believe historical research of any human endeavor will always entail shades of grey. Even those whom our history books have lauded for decades (even centuries) come with some severe caveats (mainly due to the work that researchers like you do) as more about them is uncovered and debated. I think we have to be mature enough to understand that human beings have always contained a multitude of contradictions.
@tarnishedknight730
@tarnishedknight730 8 күн бұрын
ducsinh, If history is recorded accurately, there will be gray areas along with the black and white areas; just as there was in the present, when that history happened.
@GenXfrom75
@GenXfrom75 Ай бұрын
My son’s class just had a field trip there. ❤ History must be remembered. The good, bad and ugly of it. And there’s a lot of it here in Charleston, SC.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 24 күн бұрын
Good movie with Donald Sutherland as Gen. Beauregard.
@AfroNerd-cv1dl
@AfroNerd-cv1dl 2 ай бұрын
As a black man watching this video, I too am interested in the history. I think it's important that we don't erase history but that we also don't portray it as something to always be proud of. It is important that we remember moments like this so that we can look back and see when we were wrong. The history of the hunley belongs to everyone. Let us not forget the sacrifices of her many crews, but let us not forgive the morally wrong side she fought on. Instead, let us learn from this, so that going forward we can be a better America.
@memeone3043
@memeone3043 2 ай бұрын
My grandfather used to say, "We should respect men who died for their beliefs, even if we can't respect the beliefs they died for."
@danielhooper502
@danielhooper502 2 ай бұрын
They were still a bunch of traitors defending slavery
@realAniram
@realAniram 2 ай бұрын
I'm white but I feel that the team did a near perfect job of laying out the facts and history without glorifying the men and reason this ship was built. They deserve names as human beings, but also so we can connect them to their crimes. It's easier to feel the impact and learn history's lessons when we know it as a full story rather than a timeline involving nameless faceless actors.
@kalipw0210
@kalipw0210 2 ай бұрын
Plot twist....She was a Union unto herself 😂 Forged from Union Steel *maybe She really fought the good fight, and I mean that 😂
@AfroNerd-cv1dl
@AfroNerd-cv1dl 2 ай бұрын
@@memeone3043 beautiful words. Can't wait to incorporate that into my life as well. Thank you for your wisdom.
@steeleish
@steeleish 2 ай бұрын
"when the world needed her the most, she returned." welcome back, caitlin! hope the sabbatical was everything you wanted and needed it to be, and thank you for another beautiful documentary!
@lynnw7155
@lynnw7155 2 ай бұрын
Yes; welcome back, Caitlin! Absolutely fascinating documentary! Well done!!
@daqtaghhasfibers
@daqtaghhasfibers Ай бұрын
Truly beautiful documentary, I am from Europe and feel that you did this with dignity as always. Welcome back, you have been missed. She did play a part in the naval battles and I think she deserves recognition.
@tamsinterror3520
@tamsinterror3520 2 ай бұрын
I'm South Carolinian, born and raised. The Hunley is our history. Just like the slave markets of Charleston are our history, as are the stolen lands of the Cherokee, Catawba, Cusabo, and Creek. It's indisputable that being a Carolinian means reconciliation between the darkest parts of our history and the absolutely beautiful diversity that crawled forward relentlessly despite the obstacles. We still struggle with that history in the present day; events like the shooting at Emanuel AME show us that hatred is still very much a living part of the culture here. We can look on in awe of the Hunley. We can cherish the artifacts she carried. I've been to Fort Sumter and to Cowpens and other historic sites. But, in our awe, we do not get to ignore the facts of her creation while the system we live in still disproportionately grinds up black bodies. Stuff can be two things, but the Hunley will never be regarded as one technical marvel. She will always carry the stains of her creation and we do not let her story exist without the full context. She was made to continue enslavement and colonization and anyone who ignores that part of her history does so at their own moral peril. Being Carolinian means living with these ghosts.
@cynhanrahan4012
@cynhanrahan4012 2 ай бұрын
Well said. But I would add being multi-generational southern. My people are from Virginia and Louisiana (before finally marrying into Irish around 1900). We all have ghosts and it's our duty to tell the truth. Our ancestors built and lived on the lives of enslaved black people, and then carried on the tradition of racism with Jim Crow laws and even current gerrymandering of voting districts.
@niteowel9052
@niteowel9052 2 ай бұрын
Beautifully put
@zippyt.libertine3787
@zippyt.libertine3787 2 ай бұрын
"Being Carolinian means living with these ghosts" Amen to that, born in Sumter County.
@M2ofEMMM
@M2ofEMMM 2 ай бұрын
I'm really glad to see a comment talking about how antiblackness has very much not been snuffed out after all the fighting and time. One thing I kept thinking about was how much money and respect were channeled into digging up and preserving this submarine and laying her crew to rest vs. how little money and respect go into honoring the creations and lives of black people to this day. Preserving history is important so we can hold ourselves accountable to and learn from the horrors of the past, but I wish so much that it wasn't so terribly disproportionate to how we treat living and recently deceased people in the modern era.
@Hollylivengood
@Hollylivengood 2 ай бұрын
That's so beautifully said.
@At0m1cPunk
@At0m1cPunk 2 ай бұрын
ME: "There's no possible way I could love Caitlin any more than I already do." CAITLIN: I'm 6'1." ME:
@waynejones205
@waynejones205 Ай бұрын
Holy Cannoli!! I'd see eye to eye with her 😄
@wabi_sabi_vida
@wabi_sabi_vida Ай бұрын
Agreed! 😂
@LadyJ_88
@LadyJ_88 Ай бұрын
So much POWER!
@craigix
@craigix Ай бұрын
Lol how have you never noticed she's crazy tall for a woman? Go back and watch previous videos now you're aware and you'll be amazed you didn't see it!
@stevesample8714
@stevesample8714 Ай бұрын
If youre gonna climb a mountain, climb a tall mountain! Caitlin is gorgeous!
@Morjana52
@Morjana52 Ай бұрын
My husband was serving on Submarines when we lived in GA. This was all going on while we were there. We even knew a few people involved with this. Amazing!! Wonderful information as always!!
@annwarneka868
@annwarneka868 Күн бұрын
Thanks for this sad story of capitalism and dicusting sacrifice of human lives. Welcome to the East Coast Ms. Doherty! I'm a living historian, honoring the American Civil War. At the beginning of this hobby, I transferred from a Confederate unit to a Union unit, only because this Union unit was closer to home. My family and friends congratulated me and I was stunned at their stong response and their unsolicited opinions! Now, I'm honoring a nurse who traveled with the Army of the Potomac during American Civil War. To answer your question, an unequivocal Yes!!
@marimbagirl1993
@marimbagirl1993 2 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about all these old journals and documents is when they call something "indescribable".... And then proceed to describe it in detail.
@ronmaximilian6953
@ronmaximilian6953 2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure that any description put on paper could truly convey the thalness and noxiousness of the corpses.
@nancymilawski1048
@nancymilawski1048 2 ай бұрын
​@ronmaximilian6953 and the smell is why I don't do certain jobs like cleaning up after a fire or flood, forensics (even though I love the subject), and mortician. 😊
@user-ev3mf2hx5u
@user-ev3mf2hx5u 2 ай бұрын
Your humorous and compelling way of telling us the macabre fun facts we're all addicted to has been greatly missed.
@positivefandom9066
@positivefandom9066 2 күн бұрын
I’ve watched this video so many times. I had no idea that the Huntley isn’t famous. It was a remarkable vessel and a daring enterprise. Thanks for the video 😊💎❤
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 2 ай бұрын
"Water phobia, sea phobia..." Our Lady of the Dead understands us so well 🤣 Fun fact: "Iron Coffins" stuck as a name and there was also an outlaw biker gang, supposedly named after WWII sub sailors
@Name-ot3xw
@Name-ot3xw 2 ай бұрын
More Fun Facts, They make iron coffins out of titanium alloys now, along with generous rubberized coatings. Steel coffins now refers to tanks. Oh yea, we invented the tank in the meantime.
@sierrajohnson717
@sierrajohnson717 2 ай бұрын
She forgot “Fear of the Dark” (jk)
@itwasagoodideaatthetime7980
@itwasagoodideaatthetime7980 2 ай бұрын
​@@sierrajohnson717 All Caitlin's phobias about Cave Diving in a convenient portable metal tube! 🤣
@francisjones1409
@francisjones1409 2 ай бұрын
Caitlin Doughty is the only person whose videos I’ll click on even if I don’t think I’ll be interested in them. These videos are ALWAYS good, and I ALWAYS learn something interesting.
@thriftedbrandon
@thriftedbrandon Ай бұрын
The amount of work that went into this documentary is massively inspiring. Thank you for another great video.
@simonbeaird7436
@simonbeaird7436 Ай бұрын
As a long-time student of naval history, this had me enthralled. I first heard of the 'Hunley' nearly 30 years ago but so much has been learned since then. Thank you Caitlin.
@DavidLeeIngersoll
@DavidLeeIngersoll 2 ай бұрын
To answer your final question - I think the Hunley should be included in the history books just as any military invention is. It doesn't need to be celebrated but it should be recognized. I'd never heard of it until your video.
@TheMeloettaful
@TheMeloettaful 2 ай бұрын
Like you this is the very first time I'm even hearing about this ship let alone a submarine one 😮! As a lot of commentators have already basically said it's history and it should be preserved. Just so long people don't forget WHY she was built in the first place. Even though these people long dead would rather see me & my people enslaved rather than be free they were still human beings. Who had friends & family who would never see them again. While I may hate WHY the submarine exists I can still be amazed at it's existence in the first place in a time period where I thought such a thing couldn't exist yet in the first place. Humans will always keep imagining & inventing stuff for as long as we are here on this Earth. Whether it be for good or bad intentions.
@VeretenoVids
@VeretenoVids 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, we can learn from all kinds things in the past that are not positive. I think sometimes we learn even more when its grim because it sticks with you.
@BeeWhistler
@BeeWhistler 2 ай бұрын
@@TheMeloettafulYeah, I think that’s about right. I can’t imagine not at least remembering this was a thing from a techological and historical standpoint, but I sure as crap also wouldn’t show up to a ceremony with Confederate reenactors! It’s a similar dilemma to one I’m feeling myself… I just moved to a small Texas town with a little pioneer cemetery down the street. Some of the graves predate the Civil War, and are badly in need of restoration, but I know what the odds are that these were slave owners and I’d feel funny if I, a white lady, tried to get a project going or went in to do it myself. As someone fascinated with the history of every day humans, I just think all grave markers should be readable, but I also don’t wanna look like I’m especially eager to preserve the racist’s graves, especially in the current political climate! It’s right across from a park, too, where you always see black families playing together. Imagine those kids seeing some pasty white Karen-looking woman in there in her sun hat and gallons of sunscreen preserving the plantation owners’ headstones. It’s probably a stupid thing to worry about but I worry too much in general…
@bethking7348
@bethking7348 2 ай бұрын
I didn't know the Hunley sank 3 times!
@ccrlambert
@ccrlambert 2 ай бұрын
I agree! I heard about the armored ships Monitor and the Merrimack that was built in the Civil War but not this.
@kiraa.4529
@kiraa.4529 2 ай бұрын
I believe it's possible to simultaneously laud the sub as a technical marvel and milestone, and her creators and crew as pioneers, while also acknowledging the reason for her creation. I'd argue that it's necessary to discuss the sub's creation within that context -- war is a great driver of innovation, from weaponry to medicine. The fact that the Confederacy had access to this cool piece of tech doesn't mean they are also cool by association. Really enjoying these longer docs, Caitlin. It's been fun to watch your channel evolve over the years and I look forward to more!
@desperadox7565
@desperadox7565 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@larrybremer4930
@larrybremer4930 2 ай бұрын
Confederate or Union, they re all "American" and like all of our warriors fought to preserve their way of life. We can absolutely separate the institutions they fought for from the ingenuity, bravery, and sacrifice of all the warriors regardless of the side they are on and fought according to recognized rules of war for the period. I don't know why government officials would be afraid to attend since the confederacy is part of their heritage, like it or not. In any case the crews deserve full honors as the hero's they were, who elected to do something exceedingly dangerous, above and beyond the call of duty. It's too bad they were not a military crew so they could perhaps be posthumously awarded appropriate confederate decorations for their actions that night.
@FairbrookWingates
@FairbrookWingates 2 ай бұрын
@@larrybremer4930 Is someone a hero no matter why they die? The duty these men died for was to either making money or to slavery. They did indeed face danger and had insane courage, but imo it goes to far to call them heroes. Adventurers? Technological explorers? Certainly a story worth knowing, of course!
@larrybremer4930
@larrybremer4930 2 ай бұрын
@@FairbrookWingates Would you have said the same of John Paul Jones? Most of the rank and file of the confederate army would not have even been land owners, much less slave holders. They were fighting for their way of life and fear that the Union was going to destroy the South. Slavery was a factor, sure, but it was a side issue of the main reason for the Civil War, whether ultimate law was at the State or Federal level. The Southern States opinion (that really split the union) was that the State had the right to full self determination without Federal intervention, including a right to succession with institutional slavery being just one of many issues where the State said the Federal Government cannot force a State on the slavery decision. In many ways we are seeing that same issue today over legalizing the use of recreational drugs with the States openly violating Federal law.
@FairbrookWingates
@FairbrookWingates 2 ай бұрын
@@larrybremer4930 That way of life was based on slavery. Documents and statements of the South, by the South, written and written down from verbal speeches on the senate floor, all make it clear that the Union would "destroy" the South by ending slavery. The Civil War was over slavery, that WAS the "state's rights" issue. The state's right to have slavery. If we can't agree on that, there's no more use discussing this matter. Enjoy your evening. (or whatever time of day you have!)
@williamkaczmarek3996
@williamkaczmarek3996 23 күн бұрын
As a former submariner, and a one who was stationed in Charleston while on active duty, Hunley is a name that is well known by the US Navy. I'm not aware if there are any modern ships in our fleet named after Hunley I do know that we were serviced by "the Hunley" a submarine tender while we were there. Now it's been 44 years since I was aboard her so I'm going to assume that she's been decommissioned and is probably gone by now. But rest assured, Hunley has not been forgotten.
@jnaeraespano4468
@jnaeraespano4468 10 күн бұрын
Yep, most of the tenders have been. I was stationed on the USS Dixon.
@samiramarley
@samiramarley 12 күн бұрын
Caitlin, thank you so much for your inspiring advocacy of the death positive movement. When I have to explain to acquaintances what I mean when I tell them I am death positive, I explain that it actually helps me love life even more. By being aware of my and everyone else's intimate, if often unacknowledged, relationship with death, it helps me to find joy in even the worst moments. Being death positive has helped me love life. Your videos and your blog posts have helped reinforce my confidence as a death positive person. Thank you so much!!!!
@hawkeyestegosaurus5680
@hawkeyestegosaurus5680 2 ай бұрын
My thought is that the Hunley is a piece of history, regardless of it's intended purpose it's a marvel of early engineering and that's how it should be remembered
@kissedbysun2517
@kissedbysun2517 Ай бұрын
Honestly, the greatest marvel is that they managed to get three crews of men to operate it.
@Sorcerers_Apprentice
@Sorcerers_Apprentice Ай бұрын
It killed more far more Confederates than Unionists, including its own creator, then destroyed itself, all in the name of ultimately ending up on the wrong side of history. Its a perfect representation of the self-destructive nature of the Southern US Confederacy and those who support it.
@emolyemu89
@emolyemu89 2 ай бұрын
"Lumpkin...like Cher!" This took me out lol🤣🤣🤣 Caitlin, We have missed you SO much!!
@user-tq9pv1zw6x
@user-tq9pv1zw6x 2 ай бұрын
Sorry, I don't get the joke.
@kier3576
@kier3576 18 күн бұрын
My dad was a dive instructor and dove with Clive Cussler with the dive shop he worked at and was there that day the team found the Hunley! It was a few months after I was born in Charleston.
@theburrowrises8549
@theburrowrises8549 Ай бұрын
History has the power to make us uncomfortable, but burying it is an attempt to hide the past. That's not our job. Our job is to preserve history and continue to learn from it.
@CakeoftheMews
@CakeoftheMews 2 ай бұрын
As someone raised in the south, I appreciate the factual stance in this video. The civil war is such a strange topic because it's such an interesting period of our history! But it sadly gets co-opted by racists to the point where it's hard to hold an honest discussion about it. I make jokes about "my ancestors were racist losers" but when actually talking about the bodies of the dead, and how these artifacts should be handled, it's important to have that nuance. This history, like all history, deserves to be remembered for all it's good and bad.
@thatthatguy1
@thatthatguy1 2 ай бұрын
People get weird when talking about the crunchy bits of history. But it’s important for us to face them and discuss them.
@rangerman9241
@rangerman9241 2 ай бұрын
As I always been told "our family was to poor to have slaves, so we fought for our rights, our homes and our lives"
@medicaoctavia8002
@medicaoctavia8002 2 ай бұрын
They may have been on the wrong side of history, but human lives were still mourned by their families. I don’t agree with the stance of my home state during the war, but I can appreciate the fact that Caitlyn is respectful of the dead while discussing this.
@Tessa_Gr
@Tessa_Gr 2 ай бұрын
@@rangerman9241 No they did not at all. Even people who didn't enslave others were racist white supremacists. They still benefitted economically from slavery, just indirectly. And they probably still believed in white supremacy. That was the reason to fight for the Confederacy. Slavery was the reason the war happened. The "States rights" refer to the States "right" to enslave black people. That war was not about freedom in any way. If they actually just wanted to fight for rights, they would have fought for the black peoples rights as well. If they wanted to fight for their homes, they would have sabotaged the Confederacy to make the war end quicker, so their homeland would not be war-torn and their future would be safe. If they wanted to fight for their lives, they would have fled the Confederacy and joined the Union. They didn't fight for any of these things, just for white supremacy. Don't romanticize those people just because they're your family.
@maryellencook9528
@maryellencook9528 2 ай бұрын
​@@rangerman9241exactly. What irritated me the most about tearing down Civil War memorials in the South was these might have been the only closure some families had for lost family members.
@logansrevenge1214
@logansrevenge1214 2 ай бұрын
I think it's important to keep history the way it really was. We can't learn from our mistakes if no one ever teaches us about them.
@kalipw0210
@kalipw0210 2 ай бұрын
Well there are plenty that want to erase our history, probably with the full intent of repeating it. They don't have to burn the books, they just remove them. Ratm
@jerrychurchill8765
@jerrychurchill8765 Ай бұрын
I have known about the Huntley, having served in the US Air Force Reserves at Charleston AFB. I really enjoyed your video. Having been an Aircraft Mechjanic for over 70 years I was amazed at the technology of that time. God Bless and thanks !!
@Rapier100
@Rapier100 11 күн бұрын
As a living historian, I have represented a Union naval officer and I must say that all things related to the Civil War should be presented regardless of its relation to supporting, or not, of slavery. This is history and it deserves to be presented in the cold, hard light of day. It's how we learn not to make the same mistakes. I have also been disheartened to encounter those that do not know that there were naval forces involved in the Civil War, other than perhaps the clash of the ironclads, USS Monitor and the CSS Virginia (previously the USS Merrimack.) The existence of Hancock's "Anaconda Plan" is mostly not recognized as the plan to blockade the Confederacy and is what caused the USS Housatonic to be stationed where she was sunk by the Hunley. Please keep up the great work of keeping our history alive!
@STE.B
@STE.B 2 ай бұрын
Caitlin Doughty, I've now been in the funeral industry for nearly 5 years. You inspired me to do what I want and go into the funeral industry, and I would just like to say THANK YOU! I was in my funeral home within 15 minutes, and everything clicked. I was home. Most people do not work in the funeral industry for the money, trust me 😂. Sending the person who has passed on their final journey and helping family and friends is truly an honour. ❤
@misstekhead
@misstekhead 2 ай бұрын
That’s so awesome! She’s inspired me as well and I’ve been meaning to return to higher education. I had to take medical leave from college, sadly never returned, thus becoming a dropout. It’s definitely not one of my life’s proudest moments. 😔 Do you mind if I ask how you went about obtaining your education and finding work?
@feliciagaffney1998
@feliciagaffney1998 2 ай бұрын
​@@misstekheadI met a guy on a dating site some years ago training to work in the funeral home. I don't remember exactly what his ambition was. Maybe a funeral director. Have you asked at local funeral homes how to get trained to work there? I would imagine they'd be happy to talk to you. I don't think they have hundreds of people knocking the door in to work there.
@STE.B
@STE.B 2 ай бұрын
@misstekhead You shouldn't put yourself down because there will be someone else to do it for you. CHAMPION YOURSELF 🏆 I failed my criminal psychology degree this year and realised it was way out of my league, but I tried my best, and that's what counts to me. In regards to starting in the funeral industry, I personally started from the bottom and worked my way up. I started as a limousine and hearse cleaner and driver. Now, I conduct funerals and have a team. I would personally keep your eye out on local jobs that are advertised. Education wise, unless you want to be an embalmer, you really don't need any extensive education. You learn on the job, this may help: • Being committed to delivering excellent client service to the highest standards • Excellent communication skills • Well presented with a professional demeanour • A full UK driving licence •A minimum of 5 year’s driving experience • Physically fit and able to participate in bearing duties • A flexible and dependable approach to work Apologies for the long reply. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours. 🙌🏼
@joelsommers
@joelsommers 2 ай бұрын
@@misstekhead I just completed an IT project for the New Mexico Department of Health that transitioned all the state's funeral homes to electronic death certificate issuance. I've spoken to two different funeral directors (one in Silver City, the other in Albuquerque). They both told me that in New Mexico, there is a professional certification that is issued by the Office of the State Coroner to any professional whose job regularly requires interaction with human remains. The cert is issued after a pass/fail online test is taken. So this basic certification is normally pursued on a funeral home employee's behalf by their employer. It is a very basic knowledge set that focuses on state laws regarding the handling and transport of human remains, as well as the paperwork associated with funeral/burial insurance policies. Funeral homes generally pay the state for access to the on-line study guide and for a certain number of chances for each employee to take the test. Failing the test requires waiting for 3 months to retake it. I believe the per-person cost for access to the study guide and one chance to take the test cost around $300.00. Obviously this is unrelated to specialized skills like embalming, reconstruction, or open coffin appearance prep. This industry is essential and requires people who are deeply sensitive and who understand how important it is to treat the bereaved with exceptional care. Good luck....we need more people who want to pursue this career path.
@briarrose8154
@briarrose8154 2 ай бұрын
Getting the return of Jenny Nicholson & Caitlin Doughty all in one week 🤩 KZfaq is healing
@kated89141
@kated89141 2 ай бұрын
Now we just need Jenna Marbles and Cayleigh Elise to come back
@carolinecagle3266
@carolinecagle3266 2 ай бұрын
@kated89141 Just stopping by to express my appreciation for Jenna, taking a very public stand of radical boundary setting. And kudos to her lovely golden retriever bf for respecting/supporting it while still maintaining a yt presence. So many thanks for the years of free entertainment she gave me.
@kated89141
@kated89141 2 ай бұрын
​@@carolinecagle3266 I support her decision to leave KZfaq and do what is best for her. I do miss her. I could never put myself out there like that. She is amazing and I hope she's doing great in life.
@carolinecagle3266
@carolinecagle3266 2 ай бұрын
@@kated89141 yeah honestly. watching what happened to her, how people treated her, the person, was enough of a deterrent for me because at that time, I was thinking of making a channel.
@sweetmother2406
@sweetmother2406 2 ай бұрын
Seriously! It’s been a great week 😊
@melissadawson6130
@melissadawson6130 16 күн бұрын
Resident of Charleston, work near Breach Inlet where the Hunley was found. Loved this video! Taught me more than Ive learned here even after going to see it in person! Thank you!
@YODAMAN5
@YODAMAN5 28 күн бұрын
AWESOME story and info from our past. So many people suffered back then for different causes. This truley was one event in American History that needs to be taught in our schools today. Ty for what to do.
@AC00009
@AC00009 2 ай бұрын
How did you manage to get two of my favorite things, 1776 AND Liberty’s Kids, into one video? Genius.
@motherreaper7287
@motherreaper7287 2 ай бұрын
Taking a middle ground, the Hunley is a piece of engineering history in and of itself. It's not a statue glorifying confederate generals, and in its proper context as a teaching piece, it's probably best kept rather than erased
@davidknight3249
@davidknight3249 2 ай бұрын
Well said.
@griffenspellblade3563
@griffenspellblade3563 2 ай бұрын
The Hunley is an important bit of navel history in the same way that Birth of the Nation is an important bit of film history. You can appreciate the tech advancement and what it means for the field without liking the use it was put to.
@JTScott1988
@JTScott1988 2 ай бұрын
We dont wanna erase this stuff. We just wanna stop celebrating the evil.
@BeannieRey
@BeannieRey 2 ай бұрын
@@JTScott1988 who is celebrating? Are you sure you aren’t projecting? Because Caitlin here has not celebrated the confederates. More she is fascinated by this artifact. I’ve not read anywhere in the comments of someone celebrating the south. Maybe you shouldn’t reach so much.
@Techno_Idioto
@Techno_Idioto 2 ай бұрын
@@BeannieRey I think you are correct, because in all things Caitlin has said, she has only spoken of the artifact in a light that speaks of the past, the people it affected, and what we may learn.
@justaskin8523
@justaskin8523 Ай бұрын
Every narration you do is another journey into a literary challenge. Educational, tragic, psychological horror, and most importantly, humorous. "They died. They all died." How is that not educational? How is that not tragic? How is it not psychologically terrifying? How is it not hilarous, at least on some odd level of irony? I knew much of the story of the Hunley before this showed up in my feed, but as always, you filled in some gaps for me. Thank you for the storytelling!
@lilliannissen3183
@lilliannissen3183 Ай бұрын
You have produced an excellent documentary. History IS what it IS. The wisest thing to do with such stories is to tell it as dispassionately AND as compassionately as possible. People do what they do because they ho nestly believe in their cause. Each reader or viewer must cautiously consider ALL the facts and recognize that people can do wrong things with the purest of motives. And that every once in a while history reveals people with the grimmest of evil motives: like Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung etc. In presenting storiest, like this one about the Hunley, we have an opportunity to consider the contribution of PEOPLE: Those who, not knowing how their actions would affect the future, just kept doing what they thought best until the bitter end. Evil or good, history is history. It is there for us to learn from it. It must not be erased!
@benjie128
@benjie128 2 ай бұрын
The history of this sub is one of amazement in how many times they launched it, it sank, they'd find it, and relaunch it. Did it a few times.
@sewgeekdesigns9113
@sewgeekdesigns9113 2 ай бұрын
I just saw the document series’s back in the day. They didnt go this in Depth
@templarw20
@templarw20 2 ай бұрын
I mean... too stubborn to give up and too stupid to actually do something right is in character for the Confederacy.
@The_Slammy_Jammy
@The_Slammy_Jammy 2 ай бұрын
and killed just dozens of people underwater
@suzaynnschick158
@suzaynnschick158 2 ай бұрын
Something tells us that you are not expert in military history. Persisting after multiple, deadly failures is not uncommon.
@templarw20
@templarw20 2 ай бұрын
@@suzaynnschick158 Not uncommon at all. But there's a degree of schadenfreude at the thought of the self-righteous racists like Beauregard having to look upon the results of their experimentation.
@ashtro777
@ashtro777 2 ай бұрын
Who else immediately likes Caitlin's videos the second you open them? I already know I'm gonna love it!
@emidowdarrow
@emidowdarrow 2 ай бұрын
Guilty
@catgivens
@catgivens 2 ай бұрын
You know it!
@nanananananananana00
@nanananananananana00 2 ай бұрын
sameee, she’s physically incapable of making bad content lol
@definitelynotskynet
@definitelynotskynet 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, for real. I actually only even opened YT looking for something to watch while I waited the 5 minutes it was gonna take for my game to download. 45 minutes later…
@migaud7789
@migaud7789 2 ай бұрын
No hesitation!!!
@rebeccawhite5128
@rebeccawhite5128 14 күн бұрын
I’ve just discovered your channel this weekend and have been watching the living cheese whiz out of it. I can’t stop. I do not think I could emotionally hold up in your profession, and while I thought I’d made peace with death, I’m revisiting. I’m still pretty uneasy about dead bodies. Hopefully your ideas will help me out. BTW, I was a medieval major too. I knew there was something there!
@ericmartin9569
@ericmartin9569 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much Caitlin for teaching us such fascinating historical events! When I was child I was fascinated with the origins of the submarine and read many books about it but this is the first time in my life (I'm 44) that I learned about the Hunley! Thanks again and may those who perish for the sake of mother transportation and defense rest in peace. BTW did you know that some relatives from rich Titanic victims wanted to recover the bodies with a "submarine", of course at the time that was impossible.
@GhERM2SOIED72
@GhERM2SOIED72 2 ай бұрын
In the words of the legendary shipwright Tom, "Don't blame the ships"! That it was a important step forward in engineering, and that so many people dedicated their lives to making it work means it should recieve as much notariety as a artifact from any other group.
@Sotryn_Fox
@Sotryn_Fox Ай бұрын
If we can revere the aircrafts and tanks of other morally dubious armies, I think submarines should be included lol
@jamestown8398
@jamestown8398 Ай бұрын
It seems like the Hunley kept sinking due to user error.
@ajjames8479
@ajjames8479 Ай бұрын
It's a real reminder of the sacrifices people are willing to go through for new innovations.
@rachelzona7361
@rachelzona7361 Ай бұрын
My sister is a maritime archaeologist. She runs the lab at QAR in North Carolina. She has the best job! They have the anchor and several cannons that they have been working on for decades. I love the history, the preservation, and the drive to learn more.
@TheMidwesternViking
@TheMidwesternViking 6 күн бұрын
Liberties kids!.....so happy you threw that clip in there miss that show
@ishiyua8731
@ishiyua8731 Ай бұрын
You have no idea how much your work means to me, thank you Caitlin and the friends and staff who make these videos with so much grace, effort, and respect
@connergraham1522
@connergraham1522 2 ай бұрын
Catlin doing video on the Hunley and and working on a book about the Titanic!! Pinch me I am dreaming!!!
@AskAMortician
@AskAMortician 2 ай бұрын
Fellow maritime nerds are shooketh!
@connergraham1522
@connergraham1522 2 ай бұрын
​@AskAMortician Interesting maritime fact , the largest shipwreck is US history was the explosion of the SS Sultana on the Mississippi River in 1865, it was carrying union POW's from confederate prison camps back up north when a boiler exploded. It killed 1,195 of the 2,200 people on board. It is mostly forgotten because the assassination of President Lincoln had occurred the week before, and the hunt for John Wilkes Booth was a bigger story. And in many ways, the mass death witnessed during the war essentially meant their story essentially got forgotten during the fog of war.
@cmaven4762
@cmaven4762 2 ай бұрын
@@connergraham1522 The Sultana's story gets retold a lot these days, but I think a lot of retellers don't focus sufficiently on the context ... and the irony that those men endured the harshness and deprivation of the concentration camp only to be killed by what amounted to a freak accident. RIP to the dead, yea these many decades.
@connergraham1522
@connergraham1522 Ай бұрын
@cmaven4762 Absolutely agreed 100%.
@Captainzerby21
@Captainzerby21 2 ай бұрын
To answer the question, simply put, history, the good and the bad, and I think especially the bad, to serve as a reminder and a warning, deserves to be remembered. Fantastic video
@scloftin8861
@scloftin8861 2 ай бұрын
What's that old comment? Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it? Yes, we need the bad along with the good to, hopefully, keep us from repeating the horrors we have committed.
@zzydny
@zzydny 2 ай бұрын
Every time that there is an attempt to cancel some "wrong" factor in history, we all lose a teachable moment and that is, perhaps, more shameful than the wrongs themselves.
@DoloresJNurss
@DoloresJNurss 2 ай бұрын
I agree. History is about truth, whether we like that truth or not.
@ladellg267
@ladellg267 2 ай бұрын
​@@DoloresJNurss Exactly. No matter if it hurts feelings or what, the truth is important. The fact people would go into a sub like that is insane. And the one with people cheering with the bubbles popping up thinking it was working is crazy.
@MrGozer23
@MrGozer23 Ай бұрын
I watched Clives show about finding the hunley. Read and own many of his books, including Sahara. You did an incredible job of showing this ship and its surrounding events. Brilliant!
@michaelvincent4280
@michaelvincent4280 Ай бұрын
I used to teach kids & teens how to build model kits and actually make them better looking than the box covers, and one summer we were into submarines (Hunt for Red October was in the theaters) and our conversation shifted to the Hunley, which I was fascinated with when I was in Middle School, and they had never heard a whisper of in school. After filling them in with all the details I could easily recall, they were respectfully impressed, no matter how insane it all sounded. Two of the oldest boys returned to our group at the end of the school week, and were more quiet than usual for being them. Finally one spoke up; "You know that submarine story you told us about? We looked that up in the library AND YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!" They were old enough to check up on me now, so I'd better get the details correct!
@spontator
@spontator Ай бұрын
Turtle, Hunley, Nautilus, Scorpion, Thresher... Every submariner learns these names. Even still, this video is a treasure trove of information and history. We all learned Hunley was the first to sink a ship in battle, and that she was lost in the process. But I had no idea about the first two crews. Thank you so much for facing your fears for this.
@QueenOfTheNorth65
@QueenOfTheNorth65 2 ай бұрын
Caitlin’s back! Mother of Mercy! Edit: Another fantastic video.❤️
@ellinchurch
@ellinchurch 20 күн бұрын
Great documentary! I was living in SC when the found the Hunley. I remember it being a very interesting discovery. Glad to see you again Caitlin.
@mercible
@mercible Ай бұрын
Caitlin, thanks for your video on the Hunley. I was stationed at the Charleston submarine base in the early 1990s . As a former submarine sailor the legend of the Hunley was well-known and well respected among the submarine force even though the Hunley fought for theConfederacy.
@veronicapetersen7386
@veronicapetersen7386 2 ай бұрын
I can't stop thinking how can a mortician be such a good historian.....Do you guys think she might have a secret degree? She's just so serious and passionate about her researches and it makes them so captivating omg
@marzissa
@marzissa 2 ай бұрын
It isn't a secret- Caitilin has a degree in history
@stellaluna6421
@stellaluna6421 Ай бұрын
You can hear some of her background in her video entitled: DEMONIC BABIES: A Guide for New Parents
@transcyberism1459
@transcyberism1459 Ай бұрын
Caitlin has a history degree yeah, she mentioned it in Smoke Gets In Your Eyes
@sherylcascadden4988
@sherylcascadden4988 Ай бұрын
The You Tube channel "The History Guy" has the tag line "History deserves to be remembered". I take that to mean all history: the good, the bad, the spectacular, the fascinating, the weird, and even the mind-numbingly boring and mundane. Keep the truth alive. Keep history alive. Keep records of everything you can, for opinions change, moral codes change, memory is fragile, and the truth should be allowed to remain the truth.
@nilo9456
@nilo9456 Ай бұрын
Amen
@karinrandall855
@karinrandall855 Ай бұрын
Love THG !
@sealyoness
@sealyoness Ай бұрын
I'm with you. Lest we forgot our historical blunders, or the times when we got it right.
@Angryginger2421
@Angryginger2421 Ай бұрын
Agreed
@lieutenantsuisei769
@lieutenantsuisei769 Ай бұрын
I fully agree with that. Without history's good and bad moments, we cannot appreciate the achievements we have made or make amends and changes to the ones that caused pain. We must remember the past so that we can work to create a better future for all
@amyturpen4726
@amyturpen4726 24 күн бұрын
Fascinating history. I had never heard of the Huntley. Thank you for telling its story.
@dray439
@dray439 22 күн бұрын
Glad you're back. It's been a while since I watched one of your videos. I've seen other videos of the Hunley, but it's been a long while. This was well done, and entertaining.
@SearTrip
@SearTrip 2 ай бұрын
As a long-time Civil War Navies geek, I have to say this is the best video on the Hunley I have seen on YT, better than those made by ‘naval history’ creators.
@star2705
@star2705 2 ай бұрын
I dunno if you've seen the Time Team special on subs of WWI, but I think it included some stuff about the Hunley :)
@doggodoggo3000
@doggodoggo3000 2 ай бұрын
That submarine is pretty wild. Its crazy they fed it multiple crews. pull it up, scoop em out, try again. I lived in charleston and have been to that museum. cool to see one a creator i like and respect covering it.
@l337pwnage
@l337pwnage 2 ай бұрын
So, like a Sherman tank?
@sarahwatts7152
@sarahwatts7152 2 ай бұрын
"They fed it multiple crews"...so it's like one of those fantasy chests that's all teeth on the inside, but for real. I feel so bad for all their families
@blackjack5908
@blackjack5908 2 ай бұрын
​@@l337pwnagewhile the early variants of the Sherman did have some teething issues it matured into one of the greatest tanks of WWII. Easy to use, easy to repair, and easy bail out and escape when damaged, especially with the introduction of wet ammo storage. The idea the Sherman was an ill performing vehicle that burned it's crews is wrong and pseudo-history.
@MrRAGE-md5rj
@MrRAGE-md5rj 2 ай бұрын
"It belongs in a museum!" They said. Why didn't that happen to the statue of General Lee?
@sarahwatts7152
@sarahwatts7152 2 ай бұрын
@@MrRAGE-md5rj Because that statue is much more politically charged, this sub is less politically charged because it was never an official part of the navy
@savagegardenrox
@savagegardenrox 17 күн бұрын
No matter how many times I watch this video, I still giggle at the first "Lumpkin, like Cher".
@deborahmichalak8991
@deborahmichalak8991 15 күн бұрын
SO interesting! My dad served on the U.S.S. Piper submarine on it's maiden voyage from Midway Island during WWII. He ran the engines, and told my sister and me so many wonderful stories! He earned 5 battle stars for active battles in the Sea of Japan. I will be touring the Piper's sister ship, the U.S.S. Silver Sides, in Muskegon, MI in August. I am so excited!
@annarita333
@annarita333 2 ай бұрын
Your question at the end is really interesting! As a German, people that have a bit TOO much enthusiasm for N@zi military inventions but ignore their purpose and context creep me out.
@alexw.7097
@alexw.7097 2 ай бұрын
Caitlin: I'm 6'1" Me: *Flustered short king noises* 😂
@juliatarrel1674
@juliatarrel1674 6 күн бұрын
It's not on the topic of the submarine, but I have to express my pride in my niece. She's a nurse - she started nursing in 2019, and has stuck with the profession despite being a nurse-in-training during the worst of COVID. But the pride that's on topic for Good Death is that she's working with dying children and their families! It's a tough career choice, but she's doing her best to help these kids have a Good Death.
@jillwiegand4257
@jillwiegand4257 Ай бұрын
What an excellent documentary! I remember when they were discussing bringing up the Hunley. What a fascinating piece of history! Maybe one day I'll be able to see it in person ❤ RIP to all the crews of the Hunley.
@punkinpiez
@punkinpiez 2 ай бұрын
Oh my God a Liberty Kids reference. That episode is what immediately came to mind when you first mentioned the Turtle. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
@sharky_luv
@sharky_luv 2 ай бұрын
That show is just a hidden gem of my childhood
@jannaehrenholz2609
@jannaehrenholz2609 2 ай бұрын
This video gave me hope in an unexpected way! I'm currently a university student studying clothing & textiles and am interested in getting into textile archaeology. I recently had a discouraging conversation with someone who told me that textile archaeology is really hard to get into and hardly any textiles survive in North America. To find that casually contradicted in this documentary about a submarine is awesome and makes me more determined than ever!
@barbarahuber9392
@barbarahuber9392 2 ай бұрын
its probably hard to get into because too few people are doing it. dont give up!
@Textile_Courtesan
@Textile_Courtesan 2 ай бұрын
I'm excited for you! I started a degree in that and then the college I was out dropped the program for lack of enrollment.
@christinacody8653
@christinacody8653 2 ай бұрын
Have you been to the Steamboat Arabia museum? They have a TON of textiles and they're still doing preservation work on them today!
@cnilecnile6748
@cnilecnile6748 Ай бұрын
That person is lying to you intentionally. There is a HUGE backlog of work, and it is tightly controlled by a handful of people. They are getting the equivalent of 10K PER HOUR of work, which they don't even do, they pay local college interns minimum wage, if at all to do the actual work-usually they just spray a compound on it and nothing more. Then they write up a big BS document, and send the bill for 80-120K. It's a scam. I know, I have been through this. You are a threat, so carry it out.
@robynhess2014
@robynhess2014 Ай бұрын
I am so happy to see you back again--I have missed you- you're a great storyteller!
@askyy1983
@askyy1983 Ай бұрын
Learned about this on Navy boot camp. I always loved this story
@thrushestrange5822
@thrushestrange5822 2 ай бұрын
The fact that Caitlin knows about Liberty’s Kids makes me love her even more. That show was my fave as a child.
@thedanieljason
@thedanieljason 2 ай бұрын
Saaame, that show was how I learned about The Turtle to begin with!
@Shovelshuffle
@Shovelshuffle 2 ай бұрын
A classic of our generation. In fact that show hadn't crossed my mind for twenty years, yet within seconds I remembered it!
@erikje71
@erikje71 2 ай бұрын
I believe that all historical artifacts should be preserved. It doesn't matter what side or purpose. History needs to be remembered. Good or bad. And welcome back.
@Crowhillgal
@Crowhillgal 2 ай бұрын
Preserved in a museum, yes.
@gypsydonovan
@gypsydonovan 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it's just not possible. You need specific storage conditions and space. The vast majority of excavations have very limited funds and even when working with institutions, space and resources are limited. My first excavation was a 19th century Japanese mill town in Washington state. I almost cried when we had to sort out unique objects and just tossed the rest (the majority) back in the ground. Any artifact of low quality or that there were multiple examples of, we just did not have a place for. I kept some things. That's the legal part of how artifacts fall into private collections. Items that weren't the prime examples. A marble. A broken piece of painted pottery. Nothing fancy or of material value, academic or economic. Things that were just going back in the hole. On some digs the objects declared repetitive can be more impressive. I don't think the public knows how Archaeology works or is funded. I have work stored in basements at at least 5 universities & 3 museums. Stuff that will probably never see the light of day again. And it's less than 1/10 of what was brought up from the earth, recorded and reburied. For every museum piece you see there are dozens of similar items that didn’t make the cut. Usually. Every once in a while we get a truly unique piece. Anyway, we cannot keep everything. There was a 1897 schooner in my area, the Wawona, demolished in 2009 after decades of restoration efforts, including making her a museum ship. The 1926 art deco Kalakala ferry has a similar story, scrapped in 2015 despite public outcry. Every region has sites or artifacts that go through the same thing. We just had a small town vote to pave over what's believed to be the oldest known human built firepit known in north America. It was discovered during excavation required for a planned road project. Despite the historic value, there is no specific tribal connection, and all information likely to be gained from it has been done. It's just a stain on the dirt now, not worthy of reroute the project. For me, it's heartbreaking. But it is true that we've learned all were likely to, and plenty of samples and photographs and diagrams were taken for future research. It still makes me sad. The problem is people don't want to support such things until they're at risk of disappearing. A ship of any size requires a lot of routine and expensive upkeep. Without it, we're left with photos & hopefully detailed notes, blueprints & recorded stories. The ships themselves are lost. Along with so much more.
@FuzBrain
@FuzBrain 2 ай бұрын
​@@gypsydonovancan you tell us more about the fire pit? Where was it? What's it called? How old? I haven't heard of it and that sounds so cool
@johndemeritt3460
@johndemeritt3460 2 ай бұрын
@@gypsydonovan, my wife got a Master of Library Science degree from Texas Woman's University and had a significant amount of work experience in the Women's Collection there. The Women's Collection houses the official Women's Airforce Service Pilots (WASP) Archive, and my wife handled a significant number of artifacts there. She now works as an assistant archivist at the Air Force Historical Research Agency (AFHRA). I, too, feel an attachment to these artifacts and the histories they represent. Being a history major at the undergraduate level and having earned a MS in Studies of the Future and a MA in Sociology, I fear for future generations of people who won't have the opportunity to experience the artifacts that connect us to the people who made their lives possible. I'm especially fearful that sites like Tranquility Base and the other Apollo landing sites will be looted before they can be preserved. I sincerely hope that your response to this video will inspire others to insist that we do more to preserve humanity's histories, especially in the light of the fact that we may think we're done with our pasts. The fact is, our pasts aren't done with us, and the sooner we acknowledge that, the better we may be at understanding how our distant pasts continue to shape us to this day and beyond!
@erbmiller
@erbmiller 2 ай бұрын
​@@gypsydonovanI figured as such. Every collection only needs one of something to tell the story.
@clairevagonis1873
@clairevagonis1873 Ай бұрын
I just learned something in the video just didn’t even start yet. I never knew there was a submarine during the Civil War. Wow.!
@kiernanjk
@kiernanjk 4 күн бұрын
as someone from charleston, i really cannot get over the citadel’s football stadium being built over a graveyard. like i genuinely cannot believe that isn’t common knowledge around here.
@piperlong8349
@piperlong8349 Ай бұрын
when i was 10 i was so obsessed with the hunley that i went 16 HOURS to see it in person….thanks for the great video and bringing back this memory!!
@angelic_cat_for_life
@angelic_cat_for_life Ай бұрын
The channel Becauseimmissy_ also talks about this story in a much more lighthearted joking manner if your ever in the mood for a lighthearted video to watch when your bored. Apparently one of the channel members was somewhat related to Hunley.
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