This could have been avoided...

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4 жыл бұрын

Crash footage and my thoughts.
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@robbyherron28
@robbyherron28 4 жыл бұрын
Touching the brakes is faster than eating asphalt
@linglingjr
@linglingjr 4 жыл бұрын
It cost a lot less money too.
@Melon-gb5vd
@Melon-gb5vd 4 жыл бұрын
Not a great time for a pass at all unfortunately, just hang in a little longer
@daniellai9370
@daniellai9370 4 жыл бұрын
@@linglingjr and less bandages
@YoureSoVane
@YoureSoVane 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing hurts more than knowing it didn't have to end in a crash.
@alanherrera5421
@alanherrera5421 3 жыл бұрын
And it's healthier...
@tryhardpker
@tryhardpker 4 жыл бұрын
Just ride the grass bro. This is why we run 28s now days.
@rayF4rio
@rayF4rio 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Probability didn't because he wasn't on his "Gravel" bike.
@swolebro
@swolebro 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if I had to pick between road rash and a grass stain...
@liquidwombat
@liquidwombat 4 жыл бұрын
swolebro And that’s worst-case scenario, best case scenario he stands up, gets on the pedals hard, keeps his speed and actually makes the pass on the grass, anywhere in between he still comes out better than he did
@classyrides
@classyrides 4 жыл бұрын
I ride on 23 continental 5000 s also do the trick if u do cyclo cross 😅
@williambob111
@williambob111 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the whole track was fesh asphalst and all edges/grass were fresh mud/clay. To go off into that last spring meant coming to a sudden stop.
@userwatttt
@userwatttt 3 жыл бұрын
Love how the guy lays on the floor for ages.. as if to say “I’m hurt more than you” - so they don’t get as angry that he wiped them out 😂😂
@frankiemazzei8882
@frankiemazzei8882 3 жыл бұрын
Road biker:*falls over* “ahhh I’m so hurt 😭 “ Mountain biker:*falls off 30ft cliff onto a rock*” is my bike okay?”
@curt5288
@curt5288 3 жыл бұрын
Boom
@charliebeadle2979
@charliebeadle2979 3 жыл бұрын
Or because you don't want to move until you're sure everybody else has passed? They've already moved to avoid you, if you try and move you'll just get in their way. And if you do get hit, you don't want to be open and exposed.
@limpbizkit6245
@limpbizkit6245 3 жыл бұрын
Or he just wanted to seem more hurt so the other guys could foul or get in trouble or some shit
@jinngeechia9715
@jinngeechia9715 3 жыл бұрын
Got wiped out not in a race. Hit a pothole rolled for a few meters. Stayed down because there are cars behind me. I was lying still because I was praying. 🤕 They didn't run me over which is why I can post here. 😅
@djbattledmv
@djbattledmv 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the rider thought they were on Zwift and could simply ride through the guy...😂🤷🏾‍♂️ I hope he's ok
@f0t0b0y
@f0t0b0y 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@aristojuan7926
@aristojuan7926 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jhowardsupporter
@jhowardsupporter 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately he passed away from his injuries
@f0t0b0y
@f0t0b0y 3 жыл бұрын
@@jhowardsupporter Yeah, I read that in the local papers. So sad.
@lalithrao1035
@lalithrao1035 3 жыл бұрын
@@jhowardsupporter wait fr?
@bluemystic7501
@bluemystic7501 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not defending anyone's decisions here but sometimes in a race or a really hard group ride your brain isn't working at 100% and these things happen. Stay safe out there!
@Dr.Schlitz
@Dr.Schlitz 4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it.
@aldrinclementina4297
@aldrinclementina4297 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you're right, but you have to make smart decisions and stay focused.
@jasonlau7178
@jasonlau7178 4 жыл бұрын
They happen but that doesn't excuse endangering other riders. Even if their brain isn't working at 100%, riders still have a responsibility to that, hence NorCal's title.
@alainbellemare2168
@alainbellemare2168 4 жыл бұрын
studies show that adrenalin will make you take more agressive decisions
@matrixfan58
@matrixfan58 4 жыл бұрын
Watching shit like this and thinking about it, visualizing situations like this can help you make the better decision under pressure as well
@kidsafe
@kidsafe 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like blue kit dude in the rear camera footage saw that shit coming from a mile away, reacts with a “whoa whoa” and backs off just enough to evade/escape the crash.
@erick_fernandez_78910
@erick_fernandez_78910 4 жыл бұрын
yoog of course. You can see a bad idea from a mile away.
@dukerigyi893
@dukerigyi893 3 жыл бұрын
"If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a Cyclist." Ayrton Senna
@alecharwood9154
@alecharwood9154 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@greg75c83
@greg75c83 3 жыл бұрын
I m not sure that the last word is « cyclist »
@CRegaladoDA
@CRegaladoDA 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment xD
@sark0283
@sark0283 3 жыл бұрын
The issue is that there was no gap existing there
@jamesegan702
@jamesegan702 3 жыл бұрын
@@sark0283 If you go for a gap that no longer exists you are Pastor Maldonado
@jasonlau7178
@jasonlau7178 4 жыл бұрын
Having an escape route is definitely a great point. When he got that wheel that close to the other rider's pedal, it was hard to watch, but it really shows a great lesson and I loved that you included yourself in almost identical situation.
@sueyyness3642
@sueyyness3642 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah as soon as I saw that front wheel come up I was thinking "and down he goes." I've seen smaller gaps that guys have eeked through but there was an actual line in front of them.
@jasonlau7178
@jasonlau7178 3 жыл бұрын
@@sueyyness3642 Or you have to be intentionally quick when sneaking through
@JustOneRedSoloCup
@JustOneRedSoloCup 4 жыл бұрын
I can imagine why you sat on the submitted footage for so long, it’s reasonable and your focus is clearly on good content coupled with good intent. And big kudos to the rider for submitting the footage to begin with. We’re seeing this today because both you and the anonymous submitter ultimately reached the same conclusion; there’s something to be learned here for all of us. Great commentary, as usual.
@savonaaaron
@savonaaaron 4 жыл бұрын
I was in that race and saw myself in the footage. That was a wild crash; it ended the race if I remember correctly. The dude didn't get up for like 10 minutes.
@jessebrennan5942
@jessebrennan5942 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron Savona yup, it ended the race for sure. I was knocked out and had a bad concussion and road rash. 2 riders with broken collar bones, and some guys with real bad road rash.
@savonaaaron
@savonaaaron 4 жыл бұрын
@@jessebrennan5942 wow. I hope you're alright now.
@sknkwrksowner
@sknkwrksowner 4 жыл бұрын
@@jessebrennan5942 yeesh. Hope it didn't put you off racing.
@aldrinclementina4297
@aldrinclementina4297 4 жыл бұрын
@@jessebrennan5942 and all that because of one mistake from someone else's 😒
@jessebrennan5942
@jessebrennan5942 4 жыл бұрын
All healed up and ready to race once it resumes.
@joshgull
@joshgull 4 жыл бұрын
How to avoid crashes is as valuable of information as any race tips. Hard to win if you can’t finish because you were taken out by a crash. Great video Jeff. More like this please!
@mavallarino
@mavallarino 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. I’m learning and this is my biggest fear; not falling rather creating falls for others
@GodOfNut
@GodOfNut 4 жыл бұрын
Nasty crash but hey, bear in mind its a split second decision, high risk (may) brings high reward. That being said, we should appreciate races without crashes, then everyone is the winner, get to drive back home, drink some beer and spend time with loved ones.
@erick_fernandez_78910
@erick_fernandez_78910 4 жыл бұрын
Eric So and stay in shape!
@GodOfNut
@GodOfNut 4 жыл бұрын
@Simon Andert depends, some might think it's worth it. Whatever it takes for the W, but ...
@nonyobussiness3440
@nonyobussiness3440 3 жыл бұрын
Eric So it’s not no one is pro there so it doesn’t matter
@nealm6764
@nealm6764 3 жыл бұрын
There was no rewards for what looks to be a cat 3/4 race where the guy probably had ZERO chance of winning because he couldn't even gap the fat dues out. Plus it wasn't just his risk, but everyone in that area. Total BS move.
@FreeMTrider
@FreeMTrider 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say a high reward in this situation was available.
@jessebrennan5942
@jessebrennan5942 4 жыл бұрын
I was in this race....I was the rider in blue/yellow tumbling at the end. The rider that caused this took many bad lines and risk in this race. I don’t think is fair to say the rider in the black and red was in his way. I don’t think your saying he’s at fault but it’s not right to say he was in the was. I do wish the guy that caused this would have said something down the line to the guys it affected. Small race scene here and that put a big damper on things.
@jasonlau7178
@jasonlau7178 4 жыл бұрын
I believe he's just objectively describing the situation from the perspective of the rider with the camera. Not assigning blame. For example, if there are riders "in the way" of your escape routes, you probably should not go for that move and brake to avoid crashing.
@kidsafe
@kidsafe 4 жыл бұрын
Jesse Brennan A couple questions. How late into the race was this? It looks like a split was materializing and the guy in red/black had just done a turn on the front trying to bring it back. He probably could have peeled out, rather than in, but not a big issue. Main takeaway for the guy who panicked and created the domino effect...don’t get stuck on the wrong side of a split.
@bighammer3464
@bighammer3464 4 жыл бұрын
Am I not seeing things right? Where was the rider in blue/yellow that was falling. He didn’t appear in the front and back cameras. He would have been right behind the guy falling but he wasn’t in the rear camera. It looks like the guy in blue/yellow falling was the one overlapping wheels.
@antonschaefer
@antonschaefer 4 жыл бұрын
bighammer 2:05 at the top would be my guess
@jessebrennan5942
@jessebrennan5942 4 жыл бұрын
This was midway through the race. The was group you see off the front was about to finish a prime lap. Our group that was involved would have bridges back to them in a 1/4 lap after they eased up. I was a couple riders back and just no where to go, hit a bike and went down. 30mph on a turn. I guess a few of us were in blue and yellow. You don’t see me until near the end tumbling down
@Adair9800
@Adair9800 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen this type of video. Worthwhile viewing! I'm just getting into road bikes. As a former moto roadracer, this looks more hazardous than motorcycle roadracing. You can get seriously hurt on a motorcycle crash, but we have full leathers, full helmet, gloves, back protector, etc. 100 mph get offs it is common to walk away without any injury.
@DavidWalker-xz4jb
@DavidWalker-xz4jb 4 жыл бұрын
I think videos/tips like this are great. Races are ultimately a series of moments and decisions that add up to success or failure. I'd like to see more content like this from you. Not necessarily crashes, but short takeaways.
@superstrada6847
@superstrada6847 3 жыл бұрын
Front wheel must always be protected: Let nothing enter the space between your brake levers. Thanks, great video.
@lexington476
@lexington476 4 жыл бұрын
That guy was overlapping wheels like crazy, that was bad riding. That guy should not have made that move. He was boxed in. It was either go right where it slower or you're done.
@williambob111
@williambob111 4 жыл бұрын
go right was not an option, trust me.
@nonyobussiness3440
@nonyobussiness3440 3 жыл бұрын
williambob111 nope go right get in shape
@dingodoggy66
@dingodoggy66 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@somedumbozzie1539
@somedumbozzie1539 2 жыл бұрын
It is incredibly bad form to come up on someone's back wheel like that when they don't know you are there, all he had to do was sit in their clean air and take a little rest and get them on the straight.
@disfunctionalcyclist
@disfunctionalcyclist 4 жыл бұрын
Thx for sharing this. I realize how bike racing at the end of the day is about making a lot of decisions with small windows of time to make them. While the tactical aspect of decisions is huge, thanks for sharing how decision making is a significant factor of safety in a race which is something all racers should care about first and foremost in my opinion. Love your content. Keep it up!
@Flameb0
@Flameb0 Жыл бұрын
it's less about split second decisions and more about overall mindset. what are your priorities? *especially* in an amateur race, you should be riding to avoid injuries vs doing anything to win. you aren't going to choose a super risky line like this unless you have an overly aggressive attitude.
@mayabang4637
@mayabang4637 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the quick lesson learned, for many cyclists safety for the years on. Especially considering you weren’t planning on ever uploading this footage. Thank you again.
@gretamt-berlincyclingvideo5022
@gretamt-berlincyclingvideo5022 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. How could someone choose that line. Incredible. You can see that coming from a mile away. Thanks for sharing. I sincerely hope this video avoids the one or the other crash in the future.
@dacsailor
@dacsailor 4 жыл бұрын
Greta MT - Berlin Cycling Videos - how? Perhaps inexperience, perhaps poor skills, or poor decision making. It was a Cat 4/5 race.
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 3 жыл бұрын
People who think they are the only ones on the road seems to be the norm but not acceptable for racing.
@rcg9573
@rcg9573 3 жыл бұрын
Morons drive their cars the exact same way every day. Forcing their vehicles into tight spaces to gain two seconds of distance down the road. Morons will be morons. It’s what they do. 😆
@kieljiro4981
@kieljiro4981 3 жыл бұрын
He shouldn’t even be filming if he rides like that 😂
@benefactionhindrance
@benefactionhindrance 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist no one uses film anymore
@charliedillon1400
@charliedillon1400 3 жыл бұрын
At least he's analyzing the game film and learning from his mistakes.
@mrmidnight32
@mrmidnight32 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly 99% of anyone with an action camera at all doesn’t actually need one. Your self probably included.
@Kevinschart
@Kevinschart 3 жыл бұрын
@@benefactionhindrance plot twist, this comment is a conversation subtractor
@kevinmulqueen8438
@kevinmulqueen8438 3 жыл бұрын
He’s probably a good rider, but just ended up in a freak accident
@novice2adroitness804
@novice2adroitness804 4 жыл бұрын
Good analysis. Seems simple but when I first started riding a veteran said to me "protect your front wheel" honestly I did not know what he was talking about for awhile, but I learned, gratefully before falling victim to my own mistakes.
@lloydhlavac6807
@lloydhlavac6807 4 жыл бұрын
There are 2 types of bike racers. Those who have crashed, and those who are going to crash.
@noels8817
@noels8817 4 жыл бұрын
Well put, Jeff! Riding is like driving: Identifying risks, avoiding the risk, n solidifying a contingency plan if the risk *shud* be taken.
@somedumbozzie1539
@somedumbozzie1539 2 жыл бұрын
Then again there is just plain dumb riding and I am as guilty as anyone else, as my coach put it to me "Anyone who tells you they have never made a stupid mistake is lying and is an accident looking for somewhere to happen cycling is a death sport and no race is worth dying for".
@OnajTamo
@OnajTamo 4 жыл бұрын
TBH the right was not perfectly safe either, as the black-red Felt guy was oncoming as well. He was boxed in and the safest thing to do was to brake.
@JesseDishner
@JesseDishner 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely - my sense of self preservation kicks in sometimes.
@user-go6tj2rx4o
@user-go6tj2rx4o 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the lesson! I saw about the same advice in the popular book "Cycling" by Jacques Anquetil, Pierre Chany and Michel Scob.
@KevinKaiguara
@KevinKaiguara 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Learnt something. Appreciate the post.
@mr._wattzon
@mr._wattzon 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a 180BPM decision if I’ve even seen one!
@sevenrats
@sevenrats 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@Nutsaur
@Nutsaur 3 жыл бұрын
Beats per minute?
@wic09
@wic09 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nutsaur yes
@neoneherefrom5836
@neoneherefrom5836 2 жыл бұрын
Brain definitely doesn’t work as well when you’re pumping that high - especially if your carb reserves are running low. Recipe for disaster in a race.
@grzyb11
@grzyb11 2 жыл бұрын
And how to make your bike do a 180 while on the ground and fall
@jonchaprnka3601
@jonchaprnka3601 4 жыл бұрын
Ouch. Looks like Waterford Hills in Michigan. Thanks for the tip Jeff!
@lexington476
@lexington476 4 жыл бұрын
I think that is. I've ridden that track three times.
@ryanmasters2255
@ryanmasters2255 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Chaprnka it is this is a local race for me
@RetroracerDB1
@RetroracerDB1 3 жыл бұрын
I just bumped into this video and got a flashback. I raced Formula Fords at Waterford Hills about a hundred years ago. Bikes are cheaper but not by much.
@geekpharm2108
@geekpharm2108 2 жыл бұрын
Yessssssss broooo omg this video has finally informed me to the cause of my recurrent road rash f man sometimes things aren’t that apparent no matter how clever you think you are, honestly thanks for this share man this elevates my cycling to the next level, sometimes noobs need a hand bro, fyi 36 yrs old, road riding 3 yrs, mountain biking since age 5, road riding is a totally different ballgame
@pggenio9267
@pggenio9267 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the better play.. Every time that I watch your video I learn more about biking (salamat bro) it means thank you I'm a filipino from philippines.. 😊🚴‍♂️🚴‍♂️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♀️🚵‍♂️🚵‍♂️🚵‍♀️🚵‍♀️
@YuriThorpe
@YuriThorpe 4 жыл бұрын
I like having crash footage broken down. I did my first races this season at the college level and every single race someone crashed. I just built a nice bike that I can't afford to replace, so I'm thinking of only doing CX races for this very reason.
@asiantrick24
@asiantrick24 4 жыл бұрын
fist rule of racing, don't race a bike that you can't afford to replace. Crashing is part racing. Not if but when you will crash.
@Timski2543
@Timski2543 4 жыл бұрын
With covid there won’t be much racing so bike is safe for now
@rayF4rio
@rayF4rio 4 жыл бұрын
Proof that strong legs do not always equal strong Cycling skills. Learning..... one layer of skin at a time.
@999NINE99
@999NINE99 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Learning a lot from your analysis.
@kamuelalee
@kamuelalee 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video and a cautionary moment. Yet, crashes go along with bike races like wheels to tires; it's part of the sport we all love.
@idiotcommenter
@idiotcommenter 4 жыл бұрын
lmao you can see the dude behind him watching this unfold going 😲
@futerko108
@futerko108 4 жыл бұрын
One aspect of racing here is that you do get tired and your reaction times can be a bit slow - it's very easy sitting here watching it in slow-mo with a heart rate of 60 - I think one of the skills of racing is precisely learning to make allowances because your thinking and perception do start to get a bit blurry when the red mist descends!
@grzyb11
@grzyb11 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but no one has to be an idiot either
@somedumbozzie1539
@somedumbozzie1539 2 жыл бұрын
I get your point but there is always a voice in the back of your head that is quietly saying don't do that, but in the heat of the moment it can be easy to ignore it. The pain of road rash does however tend to sharpen your hearing.
@gustavtarankov3899
@gustavtarankov3899 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what an analysis, so deep, it blew my mind.
@andrerodriguez7603
@andrerodriguez7603 3 жыл бұрын
I was racing back in the 80’s as a Cat 3. I was still riding fast training rides just a few years ago. I noticed one big difference when riding these same training rides from decades ago. Riders are strong and fast but don’t know how to ride. I see constant over lapping of wheels and riders getting into tight spots for no reason. I made friends with one of these guys and he use to ask my advice. First thing I taught him was how to draft a wheel. His idea was to ride directly behind the wheel in front of him by inches. He rally had no clue and looked at many KZfaq videos to try to learn the proper way. There aren’t any I don’t think. I showed him how to spend as little energy riding and when to go hard. Just a few novice tips. He started staying in the ride more and not getting dropped as often. Eventually with experience a couple of years later he actually wins racing now. In my day we had more experienced riders help us newbies with the tricks of the trade. We need this sort of thing again to help avoid these dumb crashes.
@joshaufmbike269
@joshaufmbike269 4 жыл бұрын
I literaly can feel the Pain. In one local trainings Crit somebody wanted to take the insid an smashed his Pedal into the Ground and took nearly 5 riders out. Luckily only "some Road rash". Bout still that is quiet intimidating. Hope everybody is now alright.
@jonstantine
@jonstantine 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope that everyone involved in this crash is okay.
@924RACR
@924RACR 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis and comments. I race this track all the time - with cars, obviously a lot faster. And your analysis and comments are exactly the same as we'd describe on four wheels - going for a gap that's no longer there, with no plan of how to get out of the situation when, not if, it goes pear-shaped. Can't just go for open track and hope it all works out: hope is not a strategy.
@brianhowell7626
@brianhowell7626 3 жыл бұрын
I have a broken collarbone right now from a crash about a month ago, and I can literally feel the pain all over again when watching this.
@TheFoxSniping
@TheFoxSniping 3 жыл бұрын
1:32 Look at that 🎂🎂 🥵🥵🥵
@Montezuma0
@Montezuma0 3 жыл бұрын
Man got distracted
@jai4648
@jai4648 3 жыл бұрын
HAAHAH
@citrusangel9488
@citrusangel9488 3 жыл бұрын
LMAOO NOO
@vic7939
@vic7939 4 жыл бұрын
That beautiful S-Works.
@JakeKaminskisRacing
@JakeKaminskisRacing 4 жыл бұрын
I've had some close calls at Autobahn Country Club in that same corner, except in my race car! LOL! Been wanting to get my bike out on the course this year, however with the COVID that may not be an option this year.
@verdeboyo
@verdeboyo 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice and absolutely true!
@markrahman9320
@markrahman9320 4 жыл бұрын
Its always when there is a differential of speed. Slowing riders being passed by accelerating riders. Generally, the faster a race, the safer. I honestly feel like every bicycle racer would benefit from reading motorcycle safety guides. The "escape route" is a common theme for motorcyclists on the highway who often get cutoff by inattentive drivers. Being conscientious of always having a lane to escape to or even a grassy median, is a good habit to develop.
@RobertoAlonso005
@RobertoAlonso005 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly... only a few guys on that video that look like they knew what they’re doing. !!!
@1PITIFULDUDE
@1PITIFULDUDE 3 жыл бұрын
Good advice. I got boxed in a final sprint and went to the outside. Waited for a hole to appear, which didn’t, so then went to the grass and around the field. My teammate was on my wheel and it paid off for us both.
@xeroxene
@xeroxene 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you guys ride motocross. All the best. 👍
@irfandanial7138
@irfandanial7138 3 жыл бұрын
As what Ayrton Senna said, “if you no longer go for a gap, you’re no longer a racing driver” 😂
@nai4485
@nai4485 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I could have an analysis like this for a crash I had in training solo a week ago that I'm still trying to figure out.
@rogger55
@rogger55 4 жыл бұрын
X2... is there any way that @NorCal Cycling could analyze this for mere mortals that wanna figure out what happened on a given crash?
@sevenrats
@sevenrats 4 жыл бұрын
Analyzing crashes is a waste of energy. They rarely happen the same way twice and your brain will remember that situation when you see it again. You don't have to consciously think about it. I MTB a lot and crashes are a regular occurrence but it's rare to have the same crash in the same place.
@vincentnavea6999
@vincentnavea6999 Жыл бұрын
My friend suffered life changing accident which affected his brain in florida years ago while in a pack. Glad he is starting to get his old self slowly but surely
@mrt.7146
@mrt.7146 3 жыл бұрын
Should be recommended viewing for us all coming off COVID-19 racing hiatuses!
@w4yland3r27
@w4yland3r27 4 жыл бұрын
It was helpful to see your similar position as well
@owenwang8378
@owenwang8378 3 жыл бұрын
As a mountain biker, I never knew that Road biking could be so dangerous.
@chaseclaborn7028
@chaseclaborn7028 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll hit 100 road gaps before I willingly don spandex on asphalt
@sumswaggaming
@sumswaggaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@chaseclaborn7028 these dudes are nuts for wearing helmets and pretty much nothing else, through my experience dressing for the slide is much more important than dressing for the ride.
@Antonno
@Antonno Жыл бұрын
Im in NorCal (Dublin/Livermore area) next week. Any recommendations where I can rent a bike for the week around the area? :) love the clips btw!
@erikmjelde4428
@erikmjelde4428 3 жыл бұрын
I like the crash videos... always a lesson to be learned.
@ORMA1
@ORMA1 4 жыл бұрын
Competitive state of mind creates this, even in fun activity
@cyclenutter2715
@cyclenutter2715 4 жыл бұрын
oof that's a smack
@mreis221
@mreis221 3 жыл бұрын
Crashes make for excellent learning experiences! We SHOULD talk about them, because there's a lot to learn.
@Tommyavi
@Tommyavi 2 жыл бұрын
cool idea to show and analyse crashes, bravo
@torukbelvedre1869
@torukbelvedre1869 3 жыл бұрын
It costs me a foot because of my hesistance to pull the brake, regret it my whole life
@nikitavolochenko2169
@nikitavolochenko2169 3 жыл бұрын
what happened?
@okifeelthat
@okifeelthat 3 жыл бұрын
What happenex
@ROC-585
@ROC-585 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikitavolochenko2169 ummmm he just did tell you what happened... lol he hesitated on his brake... his foot probably got caught in something, and it was then probably mangled...and then amputated. That's probably about it!
@jbakkane
@jbakkane 4 жыл бұрын
That was the wrong choice, he should have tapped the brakes and looked for another opening
@DrStench13
@DrStench13 3 жыл бұрын
I distinctly remember my last crash before I quit cycling. It was very rainy and I had a train of about 5 guys in front of me. We were coming out of a corner going around 50k/h. And I saw this guy 2 places in front of me just ride off the road. He could have avoided problems if he just kept rolling out on the grass and stay upright and wait for the rest of the group to pass before going on the road again. Instead what this guy did was steer back onto the road right away, falling right in front of us instead (this all happened in slow-motion of course). And then all I could do was relax my body and accept whatever happened next, as I knew a crash was unavoidable. It was too bad because I felt really strong that day; I was always good in rain and was going to be in the next breakaway. The next thing I remember was I was laying on the ground and as I tried to pick up my bike again and continue the race, I heard somebody scream out "no, no, careful!" and then I realized that another rider's leg was inside one of my wheels, right in-between the spokes. I was stronger than I ever was when I made my departure from the sport at 21. Sadly I moved away to another town to study and didn't look for another team. Studying and racing was not easy enough to combine. I am 30 by now, but who knows I might race again in the future.
@wisskier
@wisskier Жыл бұрын
I was in a Project Echelon RR a few years ago, I made a pass on the very right edge of the road nearly on the last CM of pavement. My out was onto gravel and the ditch, fortunately I didn't need it. Same race, I was in the same situation on the left side up tight against yellow. In that case my out would have been disqualification, again all went well.
@virgilfulton4426
@virgilfulton4426 4 жыл бұрын
If you ARE going to show crash video have a thoughtful purpose for it, like making it a teaching moment. Good on you NorCal for using the video footage in the correct manner, and not making it just another bit of video entertainment to thoughtlessly consume.
@asenkeel
@asenkeel 4 жыл бұрын
Everything about this screams I'm a giant flog.
@KaiTenSatsuma
@KaiTenSatsuma 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't hear any audibles either and I don't know if that isn't a thing in bike racing or not, but it seems like it'd still be useful in cases like these
@BrindleJohn
@BrindleJohn 2 жыл бұрын
When a rear wheel comes over like that, you can turn into it, kind of bump it with your front wheel. It will move the wheel over, but will not knock the rider over. Takes good timing. We used to practice it.
@sknkwrksowner
@sknkwrksowner 4 жыл бұрын
It's been a LONG time since I raced road, but now that I race mountain, I'm so accustomed to hearing or shouting "on your left/right". Did that just become passe for road racing?? Yes, small gap, but the quick announcement (wasn't going to lose the race right there) might have gotten a better percentage of success. #justopinion
@RileyDao
@RileyDao 4 жыл бұрын
Xavi Catawba i mean in a crit everyone’s so close together i’m assuming it’s pretty hard to identify exactly who the “on your left” is coming from
@ryanmcloughlin9410
@ryanmcloughlin9410 4 жыл бұрын
The general feeling I've gotten is, if you have to announce your presence in a race with an "on your left/right," you're taking a risk and trying to shoot a gap that isn't there (you shouldn't have to if you're taking a clean line). In a group ride, that's good ediquitte, but in a race competitiors have no obligation to just hand you the fast line on a silver platter. You have to make sure you have the real estate to get through safely.
@EmoryBall32
@EmoryBall32 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanmcloughlin9410 This is the right answer if you can do it do if you have to announce it then you can't really do it. I'm not talking about the occasional need to announce left/right/inside to a rider next to you I'm talking about a person who they only their move will work is if other altering their lines to have it work. Add to that if you start yelling inside so you can make a dangerous pass under me you can be sure I will shut that door.
@404nobrakes
@404nobrakes 4 жыл бұрын
Xavi Catawba Idk. All the (cat 4/5, novice) races I’ve been to, people are constantly communicating, saying “on your inside” or “hold your line” or whatnot. However, in this case it seems like the rider who chopped the POV’s wheel was himself getting pushed by another rider and had to move to give him room. So it wouldn’t have done much.
@sknkwrksowner
@sknkwrksowner 4 жыл бұрын
@@RileyDao yep, true, and good point. I wasn't thinking about the idea of single track versus true peleton closeness. But like I said in another comment, I was trained to communicate in packs no matter what as a junior and it stuck to me (I'm 50+ now). But that also speaks to if you are in the right place or not. You know, "RIDE at the back, RACE at the front". lol
@ajwadmarizat7931
@ajwadmarizat7931 4 жыл бұрын
he should've atleast said something or scream to alert the cyclist in front of him if he decided to do that. no one would expect a dude just trying to squeeze a line like that 🤦🏻‍♂️
@sevenrats
@sevenrats 4 жыл бұрын
It happens fast and it's just a bad decision. That's just racing.
@ajwadmarizat7931
@ajwadmarizat7931 4 жыл бұрын
@@sevenrats yeah unfortunately that is what racing is like
@williambob111
@williambob111 4 жыл бұрын
yea, he did. the fat guy lost it and draped his rear wheel.
@neoneherefrom5836
@neoneherefrom5836 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. I love watching these Cat 5 race videos.
@dfwh
@dfwh 2 жыл бұрын
I'm spetialized in falls, man the footage Is so relatable my left body Is full of scars because of stupid decisions when going down a hill.
@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594
@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I would have been pissed af Some random dude just wipes you out like that lmao I bet he felt like a POS afterwards RIP
@nt559
@nt559 3 жыл бұрын
This never happens to me as I always go alone, it's competition that ruins everything.
@grantofat6438
@grantofat6438 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for that.
@somedumbozzie1539
@somedumbozzie1539 2 жыл бұрын
@@grantofat6438 That's why never took up racing smashed a couple of club track records in my first two events and made it into the state final of the criterion and doing high speed corners avoiding trees with mattresses tied to them as crash pads was enough for me I just rode off into the sunset with all my "running gear" in one piece.
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 3 жыл бұрын
NorCal Cycling. You should have put spikes on your front wheel hub so that you can take out the other rider's wheel spokes (like the chariot race in Ben Hur)!
@glennevans2566
@glennevans2566 3 жыл бұрын
I did not know they raced bicycles on road courses. Looks fun. I would definitely be wearing more protective gear
@evanreeves5966
@evanreeves5966 4 жыл бұрын
You live you learn, everyone does something stupid at some point. I'm sure he was more careful after this. You should mention feathering of brakes. I'm always terrified the guy behind me won't be able to respond, but when you have to brake you have to brake.
@brianritter9379
@brianritter9379 4 жыл бұрын
One of the first things they teach you in driver's ed class... "Leave yourself an out." It also applies to riding bikes.
@Peter-ss1vb
@Peter-ss1vb 4 жыл бұрын
I don't race ,but I ride with fast group ( well a smaller group now) .My main focus when riding with them is 1. don't get dropped 2. Don't cause any problems ie crash.. There are so many thing that you can gain by avoiding the crash. You get to finish the ride,you don't have an expensive repair bill and no injuries..
@jamesbowles3046
@jamesbowles3046 Жыл бұрын
On a very hard circuit up and down mt Penn in reading two guys immediately in front of me locked handle bars at about 45 miles an hour going down the mountain the first lap took out 25 people still mad at them
@brettalexander3028
@brettalexander3028 4 жыл бұрын
Need to look ahead for slowing riders, as soon as you see one ... move onto a better line for overtaking ... this can be done gradually with smooth movement so riders around you blend smoothly rather than a last minute jerk of the bike to dart right then left.
@jondoc72
@jondoc72 3 жыл бұрын
Coronavirus has me seeing a lot of stuff
@blizzbee
@blizzbee 3 жыл бұрын
I got "broom skeleton women" yesterday. Covid-19 does its job.
@Ghostdog4
@Ghostdog4 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Buddy Coming Up On Your Left! I'm sure Bicycle Racers are polite and courteous and would move right over! LOL
@henryusa4157
@henryusa4157 3 жыл бұрын
Nice analysis!
@emeral1154
@emeral1154 3 жыл бұрын
WAIT , WAIT there’s bike races on tracks............I’m fascinated.
@nickzaffino471
@nickzaffino471 4 жыл бұрын
PROTECT YOUR FRONT WHEEL
@cypriank6705
@cypriank6705 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting perspective on the matter
@adriancamacho3008
@adriancamacho3008 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best ads I've ever seen
@chanhuanying7017
@chanhuanying7017 3 жыл бұрын
F1 2020 Jeff: Are You Ok? That Was A Big One. Confirm Your Ok Please.
@face1ess577
@face1ess577 3 жыл бұрын
He slid 2 feet watch motogp races 🤦‍♂️
@xXSgtJackXx
@xXSgtJackXx 3 жыл бұрын
Motogp riders have a full on leather kit to protect from any scratches on the asphalt, but with cyclinc they have reaaaally thin suits, and on a hot asphalt it can hurt like hell
@face1ess577
@face1ess577 3 жыл бұрын
Astrophobia yeah but look how fast moto gp riders go and look how slow bikers go Also not hate to bikers
@loganjaxey3211
@loganjaxey3211 3 жыл бұрын
Motogp races are going around 3x the speed dude
@face1ess577
@face1ess577 3 жыл бұрын
@David M I love this guy 😂🤣
@evant4715
@evant4715 4 жыл бұрын
Glad this was posted. I understand your caution in posting it.
@roneysilveira7606
@roneysilveira7606 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect comments, thank you 👍
@TheOffroader7458
@TheOffroader7458 4 жыл бұрын
Makes it more exciting
@danjo1967
@danjo1967 4 жыл бұрын
just... dont... cross... wheels !
@tjsboywonder
@tjsboywonder 4 жыл бұрын
hahaah we used to bang our front wheels on a guys rear wheel just to freak him out.Also dragged the heels of my cycling shoes which had metal taps on them. Metal on pave sound....
@evanbarnes9984
@evanbarnes9984 4 жыл бұрын
I don't race, and ride mountain bikes, but I think one thing I've learned that would probably carry over to any version of our two wheeled sport is that a judicious use of the brakes actually saves you time in the long run.
@chrisnaden
@chrisnaden Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. The guy should have taken the safer alternative. Unfortunately, if one has been riding a bike for a long time, s/he will eventually have a fall. It's just part of the baptism by fire in riding bikes. Great video.
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