This DJI Firmware will RUIN your day

This DJI Firmware will RUIN your day | FORCED Remote ID

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BE WARNED! The next wave of DJI firmware is utter BS.
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@Chebva Жыл бұрын

Products that enable these type of actions, are NOT products that we actually own.

@stevenm6301 Жыл бұрын

You ever notice things that run on firmware don’t last nearly as long? Weird how old products that don’t connect to the internet are still alive and kickin.

@tompeppint.v.3803 Жыл бұрын

Does the phone have to be a apple iPhone or android, or does it matter?

@Honeypot-x9s Жыл бұрын

@@stevenm6301 not actually firmware being updated or changed, infact want to update that as few times as possible as a single bit flip could brick the device if it really was firmware. I know DJI says firmware and lot of people just go along with it, it’s actually the software runs ontop that’s screwing everyone over and being updated to screw us over even harder. the firmware is much lower level, think like your computer’s bios/UEFI system vs OS running on the computer.. when updating windows or Mac to new big update, you are not updating firmware, just software but get all those new things. same Applies here. what’s really being updated and changed here is the software/OS running ontop.

@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын

@@stevenm6301 Huh? 🤔

@Chebva Жыл бұрын

@@Honeypot-x9s If people stop buying brands that need these updates, will other brands acclimate their products to reflect the customers needs?

@davidraborn3654 Жыл бұрын

DJI shows us that we do NOT own our drones. We lease them, they can brick it at any time.

@JinKazama92 Жыл бұрын

Same with phones...

@AECRADIO1 Жыл бұрын

GOODBYE DJI!

@john1182 Жыл бұрын

same with any tech, phones, computers, some cars, etc

@john1182 Жыл бұрын

@@AECRADIO1 i dont see the issue with the location of the drone/ operator been known, dont do silly things and you wont get in trouble. heck here in australia fpv is basically illegal unless your at a club as we must keep visual line of sight so no goggles an basically within 400 meters (and there only in major cities) or indoors and out side you cant fly any drone over ANY private property without consent. id love to be in america with there regulations

@ITHYANDEL Жыл бұрын

@@john1182 if you have no phone signal, how do you propose to fly?

@pmassee18 Жыл бұрын

The way to beat RID is to refuse to comply. This is a major security risk to those that have to comply due to 107 or who have to register their drone, but lawsuits are already in place regarding this issue and this rule has also seen the largest amount of feedback on FAA history (50k+ comments), and they don’t care.

@Joe-wk9ow Жыл бұрын

yup. Peaceful protests because if no one does it then they know it's a bad law. They want you to be afraid of the fact that you can lose your license. Could you fight it in court. Of course you can and take it all the way to the supreme court. Also was the law implemented through the US Congress? If it was then yes you can get in trouble. If not then it's not a Constitutional law. Certain things are common sense and should be law but remote ID is almost like a test drive of a Remote ID for future cars.

@ladyhawk7408 Жыл бұрын

well you should tell that to people who do stupid things like putting drones into the flight paths of manned aircraft for tiktok videos. this guy just broke at least a couple of trespassing laws by flying his drown over some one else's property let alone if the home own wants to press invasion of privacy charges( imagine banging Ms.Peter Massee in your back yard and this thing flying over your house). A simple google search and you find 100s of cases of peeping toms now using drowns to spy on women in apartment buildings Remote ID makes it easier to find and prosecute these individuals. These laws suits are likely to go no where. because 1 you do not have a constitutional right to purchase or fly a drone and two the FAA has complete jurisdiction and often given broad latitude to police and insure safety in US air space. Much like how people of a certain amendment get punished harshly for the stupidity and criminality of a few. We RC pilots and drone pilots are going to get nailed too.

@BBTB600 Жыл бұрын

@@Joe-wk9ow yep. Its bs.

@Sparc343 Жыл бұрын

P107 only "HAVE" to comply because of course that's how things are "written" I say, DO NOT COMPLY - even if you have a P107 they cannot "ticket/fine/imprison us all"!!!

@bobbysenterprises3220 Жыл бұрын

Trouble is many of the new drones that are getting mandatory updates can't be flown with out it. I remember years ago when people had permission and clearance to do a paying 107 job and their dji wouldn't let them fly so they went and got their old 3DR and did the job

@phaZed9 Жыл бұрын

Building my own Drone and betaflight = the correct decision I never regretted.

@rhadiem Жыл бұрын

This is the way. Stop buying DJI.

@Riverrockphotos Жыл бұрын

@@rhadiem No kidding.

@Riverrockphotos Жыл бұрын

Any info on how to do that?

@KonyInTheHouse Жыл бұрын

@@Riverrockphotos Look for a channel called Joshua Bardwell. He is a pretty good place to start if you are wanting to get into building your own drone.

@DieselRamcharger Жыл бұрын

@@Riverrockphotos Google it.

@mark33328 Жыл бұрын

I am convinced the game plan is to make these restrictions so harsh that only large companies and the government will be able to fly legally. My next drone will be a used drone purchased with cash and unregistered.

@TomsPropertyCare Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing the FAA will use this to show non compliance and basically eliminate recreational use entirely. Either that or clamp down so much that basically you're only allowed to fly in your back yard or within say 50ft of the goggle position.

@pupdaddymail Жыл бұрын

That was the original plan, I think.

@slapdat.byteme Жыл бұрын

Great minds think alike. 👍🏼

@THX..1138 Жыл бұрын

You're right the government is 2 steps ahead of the public on this one. They fully intend to make drone ownership so difficult you give up and surender your drone. But....If you really don't like it you should challenge the FAA on the grounds they are violating your 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms. The wars in Syria and now Ukraine have shown beyond any doubt drones are arms. The government is well aware of this and the rules they are trying to place on drone owners reflect it. FAA has even went so far as to sight "national security issues" as a justification for remote ID.... As arms your right to own and operate drones free of government registries, fees and or having to inform the government where you are is protected by the 2nd amendment. Both registration and remote ID clearly run a foul of Supreme Court precedent regarding arms.

@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын

Not even close. 😂 People have been flying fixed wings forever. You actually think "companies" are just going to up and try and kill the RC hobby? You think a company is actually going to help put themselves out of business? Because that's what would happen to DJI. Do you actually think the government will pick them to make drones for them? 😂 DJI has to conform with the new laws of the United States. Simple as that. They're not forcing remote ID on you, the government is. Where DJI was deceitful in all of this is how they sold a million units (don't know the real number) and didn't say anything, and then after people's return period was up they do this remote ID update. Almost like a bait and switch. I know if I had purchased the Avata and they did this crap and I couldn't return it, I would be livid. DJI knew the remote ID thing would change people's minds about buying the Avata and so they hid it until after 30 days, and that's where the deceit comes in. This other conspiracy theory you guys have come up with is nonsense though. For one, that wouldn't kill the hobby, it would just push people to DIY, so your theory just doesn't make sense in any aspect. Edit: My recommendation for a used drone is an Evo 2 pro. It was my first and will be my last consumer drone. I would buy one now though. The prices will go up once every other drone has remote ID and geofencing.

@VisibilityFoggy Жыл бұрын

The more regulations they add, the more people will simply begin to ignore them. If you make doing something legally overcomplicated, they're just going to do it illegally (especially when there is essentially zero enforcement mechanism). And while you cannot go "backward" in terms of firmware, I would bet my last nickel that if DJI becomes too restrictive, there will eventually be jailbreaking apps developed by the developer community.

@ArcticuKitsu Жыл бұрын

Good luck with that in Japan. Other places? Sure.

@ITech2005 11 ай бұрын

Bingo I was just thinking about this. There's so many restrictions in my area that I basically can't really fly anymore. I want to be on the right side of the law, but at a certain point you just naturally start looking for loopholes.

@RonaldBrown59 Жыл бұрын

I'm sure this update will have many folks up in arms. Thanks for showing us what exactly happens when you do this update. I don't have the Avata, so I don't have to deal with this, for now. Great video Ken, and thanks for sharing.

@aloeisthestuff9622 Жыл бұрын

Might as well spit into the wind. You are just another CCP Product Pusher.

@navpreetsingh8156 Жыл бұрын

People getting mad at DJI need to remember this is a legal government requirement and not DJI

@RottingAlien Жыл бұрын

@@FlyingAce1016 what do you mean "forced"? do you have to plug in your phone and be connected to the Internet to fly your under 250g drone? If its not legally required I don't think so. Edit: I just confirmed and as I suspected you don't have to be connected to the Internet or phone on the drones under 250g. So nothing is really fleeing "forced" on you by DJI.

@ChrisQuadFPV Жыл бұрын

Self build is the way to go. So company's that sell parts might be on the rise.

@austntexan Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisQuadFPV Dude, dont post this on a DJI space filled with drone operators. They don't need to know anything about multirotors. Let them stay in this space, where they belong. These are the guys who brought negative attention to this hobby in the first place. You want the corralled in this space where they can be watched.

@MrPlaneTalk Жыл бұрын

My understanding is that the manufacture (DJI) was required to have Remote ID on the drone. Pilots (107 included) are not required to turn on and use Remote ID until September 2023 (or later pending lawsuits)... So PLEASE, this is INDEED DJI forcing Remote ID activation 10 months earlier than required.

@zedex1226 Жыл бұрын

Speeding is a government law. When you do 61 in a 60 Chevy doesn't come take the wheels off your Malibu.

@kghallcaptures Жыл бұрын

The best way to fight stuff like this is with your wallet. All of these companies want access to your phone and private life it seems

@Papadoc1000 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. When people don't buy, then the big guys at companies with deep wallets get involved and fight the big fights because they want to stay in business. Honestly, I have no idea what the propensity is for having an FAA inspector stop and check whether your firmware is up to date but I suspect so long as someone isn't being a complete arse or violating other regs, it's pretty low. I'm also not sure but I suspect that they also need a warrant to demand access to your phone. Alternatively, claim ignorance. Though that is generally not an acceptable excuse for violating the law, when coupled with being cooperative and decent to the officer, it will almost always result in a warning rather than a citation.

@spinninglink Жыл бұрын

i just wish there was another company that made drones half as good

@Riverrockphotos Жыл бұрын

Of course so they can sell it and make even more money. Anymore in the United States it's all about greed. Why do you think prices are so high Most of these companies just raised them because they could get away with it because nobody's doing anything about it.

@Tina-mt9cl Жыл бұрын

@@spinninglink Don't let them have a monopoly, you would have competition that wasn't in bed with the feds if only you had a free market that would allow you to compete, oh wait... You do! Don't allow them this power over you. America is free country, you aren't children, & they aren't your mommy & daddy! If you want it to remain so I suggest you stop turning the other cheek. Do some research and make you own signature design. 3d print anything you can't order already made like motors, and you can outsource the programming easily to Asia. Advertising can be cheap especially if you get creative. A year from now you could have a marketable first model, be financially independent owning your own company making your own schedule, enjoying your hobby, and be making good money while doing it. (I've built several very successful businesses from scratch and it really is just that easy. Just don't sell your company to a shell of DJI on year 3 forgetting why you started your business in the first place.)

@sambastable513 Жыл бұрын

@@spinninglink rotors riot, on KZfaq check the out

@jmac8092 Жыл бұрын

Ty sir. They demand your compliance, your obedience, your Guns, your organs, if you tissue type and anything else they want.

@joed9305 Жыл бұрын

Flying drones used to be fun. It's become a painful job and I just can't anymore...

@fred73825 Жыл бұрын

It's literally just complying with the laws, stop acting like they are persecuting you, god damn the drone community is such a bunch of whiny little kids! You all would never make it as real pilots

@Thunderbyrd. Жыл бұрын

Yes, I've slowed way down. Just doesn't feel as fun any more. Maybe that is their plan, idk.

@michaelfitzgerald5207 Жыл бұрын

@@Thunderbyrd. yup, that is the "plan". The corporatists want corporate control of everything and if they get their way the only drones flying will belong to Amazon, Walmart, etc. The last thing these corporate entities want is an airspace crowded by civilian traffic because that would interfere with their revenue stream. Sure the FAA is looking out for air traffic issues, but in the end they are really just slowly clearing the airspace for corporations to get rid of human delivery of products and goods so they can maximize profit.....just think how many jobs would be eliminated with drone fleets performing delivery service, I know it sounds "conspiracy theory" but the legal obligation of a publicly traded company is to maximize shareholder profit, and the easiest and fastest way to do that is to eliminate human jobs.....and the easiest way to eliminate the millions of human delivery jobs is with automated drones, but drone delivery service would be hampered with civilian human air traffic clogging up the lower airspace.....the simplest fix there is to make drone flying difficult and cumbersome to the point that it's not fun and people would then stop doing it, freeing up the airspace for Amazon/etc to scale up their drone delivery service.

@rhadiem Жыл бұрын

@@Thunderbyrd. Big business wants to take over drone space.

@RobR386 Жыл бұрын

I still fly, but using older tech that doesn't have all this tracking nonsense in it, I have loads of fun 😊

@BigTeXXX Жыл бұрын

I believe you can flash to previous version firmware with drone hacks flashing tool.

@kennywheelus6857 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for clearing this up, great video ken,I'm getting a mini 3pro, so I don't have to deal with this, but they'll probably change that in the future too.

@edwindavidson6285 Жыл бұрын

the mini 3 pro got RID activated before the Avata did, if you dont find one that was in the store before the update released you’re wasting your time 🤷🏾‍♂️. Or learn to solder, its not difficult

@Thunderbyrd. Жыл бұрын

@@edwindavidson6285 Do you mean un-solder?

@rubengarciajr7560 Жыл бұрын

What are the odds that DJI later release a firmware that will make the drone force land when you unplug your phone.

@5zero7RC Жыл бұрын

FAA regulations don't say it has to force a landing. It has to inform you that there was an error and then you are responsible for landing as soon as practicable. So what they are doing is exactly what the FAA told them to do.

@RottingAlien Жыл бұрын

DJI are not the ones wanting to force this on you. It's not like they want you to stop flying (that wouldn't be very smart of them would it?). I bet if they could they would never do this. Also keep in mind that this only happens in the US. The rest of the world is flying completely fine without the phone. Blame your FAA.

@lordsinistra1473 Жыл бұрын

@@RottingAlien Canada Has entered the Lobby

@RottingAlien Жыл бұрын

@@lordsinistra1473 As of now, from what I understand, you can fly in canada without remote id. and even if you couldn't my point still stands: This is DJI complying with country laws. It's not some "evil intentions" from DJI to make everyone start using phone and remote id when they fly.

@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын

@@5zero7RC Gee, thanks. 🤦 You understand rules can change right?

@IMRROcom Жыл бұрын

I fly in remote places that are so faraway from people they do not have cell phone connections, So flying in a "Safe" area away from people, I can not use the drone do to no cell phone service.... Has anyone ever been out west? Get a few miles away from the freeway our out on a ranch etc. NO CELL PHONE SERVIE... Can you hear my now to this day is still BS in a lot of the western US.

@1986alexpotter Жыл бұрын

As someone shopping for their first fpv, this has disqualified dji.

@davidgeyer1929 Жыл бұрын

Interesting video. I am Part 107 certificated. I recently took the recurrent training. Why do you say that if I'm Part 107 certified I need to do this upgrade? In all my Part 107 courses I have never seen a requirement that I run the latest firmware. Now, as of September 2023 I understand that I must be RID compliant, but that has not happened yet. So, in the meantime, where is the requirement that I run the latest firmware and/or app? For me the question is academic. I've become a 90% Autel guy because of DJI's intrusive regulation. Although I still own a couple of older DJI drones and sometimes use them when I'm sure I won't run into problems. I paid a lot of money for them and I'd like to get some use out of them while I can. Definitely won't be buying any more though.

@zedex1226 Жыл бұрын

You're a bit further down the path I'm on. A bunch of second hand DJI gear from marketplace, craigslist, etc. Saving for enterprise level from autel.

@Sparc343 Жыл бұрын

I asked the same and would like to know because I have never seen or heard anything about "HAVING" to stay up to date on the firmware in relation to P107!!! I think it's not true, and really doesn't make an sense even if it is! (flying in remote areas with NO cell/data [like where I live])

@nothanks611 Жыл бұрын

The latest firmware, makes it report to home base correctly, and using remote ID is required. It's that simple, and is forced on you regardless. As far as flying with no cell coverage, these use satellites so that's a mute point too, all your phone/tablet does is communicate directly with the drone, satellite connection sends your data to home base(China/FAA).

@benjaminfournier1815 Жыл бұрын

@@nothanks611 incorrect. the GPS is one way communications only. They need a data connection to send anything.

@nothanks611 Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminfournier1815 GPS works by using triangulation metrics, connecting to multiple satellites and getting information back on exact coordinates. It's a 2 way street, always has been. If it was a one way street a compass would give you longitude and latitude coordinates based on your statement.

@twrmoor Жыл бұрын

I feel for you guys in the USA, we don't have RID in the UK yet! Although our CAA has just redefined VLOS in a ridiculous way, you now must be able to see which way your drone is facing which with a mini is only a few hundred feet away.

@greywar777 Жыл бұрын

thats....insane.

@aloeisthestuff9622 Жыл бұрын

Dependent upon WHO's Eyesight ability?

@gwizard12 Жыл бұрын

At least they get more than 25mW🤨

@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын

I build my own drones so this doesn't affect me. I actually feel for you guys in the UK. You can't even own an air rifle over 12 ft lb. When this hits the UK your regulations will be far worse and I think that sucks. The only reason other countries haven't done this yet is because the US took the lead and other countries will watch other countries work out all the bugs first and then they'll adopt it.

@twrmoor Жыл бұрын

I agree I think we will get remote ID in the UK in 2026 when our transition period ends. This country is a total "nanny state" and is overregulating for problems that don't exist. Drone operation is one of the safest outdoor hobbies with zero deaths or aircraft collisions so far.

@thegoober8934 Жыл бұрын

i was about to spend thousands on new DJI equipment, thanks for the redirect!

@laustinspeiss Жыл бұрын

I was literally days away from buying a DJI kit for upwards of $1500. I’d had these suspicions, but this seals the deal. No purchase.

@RickJamesFPV Жыл бұрын

I chose a GREAT time to switch from DJI to a real 5" quad. They just had to mess it up I guess.🏴‍☠

@a1droneshots Жыл бұрын

I just literally ordered an Avata about 15 minutes ago... I wonder if it will come preloaded with this RID FW or the old one. I guess I'll find out when I get it... Great video as usual Ken, thank you!

@rubengarciajr7560 Жыл бұрын

mine came with really old fw, had to update cause my battery wasn't reading the percentage correctly. No other option to download other fw than with this rid crap.

@a1droneshots Жыл бұрын

@@rubengarciajr7560 Good to know, thx. Other than that , have you had any other issues?

@Snooooozel Жыл бұрын

you can't use/pair it without updating it to last available version, it's part of the first start process

@dhansel4835 Жыл бұрын

It's been a few months since I flown my Mavic 2 Zoom. I plugged the iPad in and controller and got a message that a firmware update is ready to be installed. Remembering what you said and immediately turned off the WIFI, never to turn it on again! I am going to fly it as long as I can until someone comes up with a patch to keep the Karen's out of my drone. I also got a message for me to download last year's flight records. I said NO to that also. I don't have any flight records. I delete them every time I quit flying. If I want to fly over a cow and see has a new calf it's my business.

@RottingAlien Жыл бұрын

Some people reeeeally need to understand that DJI is not the one wanting to force this on you. It's not like they want you to stop flying their drones if you don't have a phone (that wouldn't be very smart of them would it?). I bet if they could they would never do this in the first place. There's is nothing good that they are getting out of this. Only being in compliance to be able to sell. Its either this or no market at all. And no market for you also means that you can't buy DJI even if you don't mind connecting the phone, so the choice is simple. Also keep in mind that this only happens in the US. The rest of the world is flying completely fine without the phone/connection. Blame your FAA.

@JoshuaBardwell Жыл бұрын

Can you test it indoors Ken? Ideally indoors somewhere you don't have GPS lock. Your phone has other ways of getting location information and I wonder if they will work.

@KenHeron Жыл бұрын

Good idea. Thanks bud!

@DaytonaJim78 Жыл бұрын

How do you set it for a under 250g drone

@JoshuaBardwell Жыл бұрын

@@DaytonaJim78 standard RemoteID is not required for sub 250.

@rhadiem Жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell Really wish this drone was sub-250. That's the best legal path forward imo.

@zeebeefpv2273 Жыл бұрын

In recent updates iphones still are able to use GPS positional data even if your phone is out of cell signal and wifi-

@subliminal1284 Жыл бұрын

Of course the other option is build your own drone which Im sure will see an increase with this

@5zero7RC Жыл бұрын

There are rules that make that very difficult as well. So either you break the rules like Ken did here, or you build your own drone and break the rules that way. :(

@txarchdroneguy4731 Жыл бұрын

Great video and explanation, Ken. I have yet to update my Avata, knowing that eventually, I’ll have no choice.

@whmthree Жыл бұрын

Been dragging my feet to update. I was excited that the Goggles2 would be back compat, but reluctant to update the other fpv's for that.

@fpvraver Жыл бұрын

I’m truly starting to regret my DJI purchase of the version two goggles

@JoeGator23 Жыл бұрын

Refund then ASAP.

@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын

@@JoeGator23 Most early adopters are beyond their return period. This is going to change a lot of people from being early adopters. Thankfully I had already learned my lesson years ago on that.

@adaniel2224 Жыл бұрын

@@dangerous8333 Pre orders are garbo!!

@adam.gibson Жыл бұрын

I stopped buying DJI stuff after having a Mavic Pro and after 4 or 5 years, they stopped making batteries for them. I have tried a few third party batteries that are compatible but the quality of them is really bad (stopped working with only a few flights over a several months). I want these things to last longer than 4 or 5 years. Without batteries, they are useless.

@WestonNey Жыл бұрын

I’m so glad I learned to build drones myself.

@IPGAuto Жыл бұрын

That doesn’t matter lol you are still liable under CFR 107 rules. If caught you are still liable for fines and penalties.

@SP-nt4sr Жыл бұрын

Just added UAS rating to my Part 61 ticket. Took like an hour. Test was super easy too. Common sense.

@morphumax8036 Жыл бұрын

Okay, the pertinent part of the FAA's "Why Do We Need Remote ID?" ".....groundwork needed for more complex drone operations." They are getting the airspace ready for commercial drone use. That's it. Nothing more. This has to do with where the money is at.

@ScotInTheDot Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the modern day world, where extra steps get added to complicate everything 🙄🙈 In the meantime Ken, wishing you a great 2023!

@neilrobertson1345 Жыл бұрын

Hi Ken 99 percent of the people I know that fly just going be a Rebel but fly reasonably safe allways

@musa7606 Жыл бұрын

Peaceful resistance :)

@damian-offthegrid4092 Жыл бұрын

Got an Avata for sale with three batts…only flown twice. It did it’s job.. got me into and sold on FPV and within those two flights I now own a fleet of real self built drones…who wants it?

@bio72301 Жыл бұрын

Im interested .......

@MobileGamingLegendz Жыл бұрын

Apparently you can still fly without cell coverage if you spam turn on motors when the drone boots up. The remote ID error comes when it finds enough GPS satelites so if you start the motors before you are suppose to be good. I have not tested this. Just saw a video on it.

@cloudpandarism2627 Жыл бұрын

happy new year ken. even i am raging here. lucky i didnt buy the avata and never will. but the fact that DJI doing the same shiat again is bad. now i worry that BS will come to normal O3 air units as well someday

@johnchurch2321 Жыл бұрын

Hey I'm considering the O3. Will you comment back if you receive a forced update for RID?

@cloudpandarism2627 Жыл бұрын

@@johnchurch2321 i will but highly doubt they will do that.

@pugmalley Жыл бұрын

Most long time Apple users know to never update firmware until all bugs are worked out. In this case bugs are probably permanent.

@jmac8092 Жыл бұрын

Just be aware all your 'Apple items' are assembled by slave labor in China.

@juliogonzo2718 Жыл бұрын

My work uses iPhones. They gave me an iPhone 7 and the battery failed in 1.5 years. Now I have had an iPhone 11 for two years and it has lots of problems. I have to use speaker phone cause the earpiece is dicked and now lately my flashlight randomly turns on and off when I make a call. I'm typing this on my personal 5 year old $250 android lol

@m118lr Жыл бұрын

“Bugs”..in ANYTHING, are NEVER completely gone! Seriously? We’re talking about ‘tech’ here..HIGH tech.

@Vousie Жыл бұрын

In this case it's permanent 'cause "it's not a bug it's an undocumented feature."

@geezerpleasers_OG Жыл бұрын

This is why I am sticking with older DJI drones, and Autel drones. Also, I only hook up my trusty old Mini 2 and Mavic 2 Pro to an old phone which has no data plan, and which has wifi turned off. I've turned of automatic updates, and with no internet connection, the drones are blissfully unaware that anything has changed in 2023.

@ValleyFPV Жыл бұрын

More injuries have been caused by bird strikes. Not drone strikes. FAA should require the birds to have remote ID. I stopped buying DJI products 2 years ago. And I have not updated my Phantoms FW in years. It still Flys. Now I build and fly mainly home built FPV quads.

@JoeGator23 Жыл бұрын

Great idea, not to mention how DJI has been snooping on you whenever you owned and flew "your" DJI drones. Hopefully everyone will stop buying these spy bots and build their own.

@Luggruff Жыл бұрын

The difference with bird strikes though is that birds cannot really be held accountable for not complying to safety. Unless you think that birds are as smart and informed as humans, about humans.. Super bad analogy.

@ValleyFPV Жыл бұрын

@@Luggruff My point is, that there have been so few fatal accidents caused by drones (if any?) that the FAA is over regulating an activity that is not statistically unsafe. Their resources would be better spent on investing in bird strike avoidance technology. RID is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

@Mr748Dave Жыл бұрын

Good video Ken. You probably are aware that per the RID Rule, Remote ID may not be turned off. So there will never be a switch (hardware or software) to turn RID off. Also, of possible interest: The VERTICAL location accuracy of the Ground Control Station (controller) is 15' which many phones achieve. 15' is the most stringent vertical location accuracy requirement of any vehicle by any civil aviation authority in the world. Dave Messina, FPV Freedom Coalition

@slapdat.byteme Жыл бұрын

Step 1) Avoid DJI products. Step 2) If you have a non-RID compliant drone, DO NOT update the firmware. Step 3) Put your phone/tablet in airplane mode before pairing it with the drone, so it flies on the old FW and doesn’t force an update. Step 4) Purchase a cheap add-on RID module. Step 5) Tape the RID module (discreetly) under the airline seat in front of you. Step 6) Have fun flying!

@theoiv Жыл бұрын

@@slapdat.byteme 🤣🤣🤣

@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын

@@slapdat.byteme But I have the goggles and it doesn't have RID in them. Does the action cam have RID? I'm just being a smart-ass. 😂 Step 5 is the best idea I've seen yet.

@SecretAgentBond Жыл бұрын

… hmm, 15ft vertical location accuracy, so it would be interesting to hand launch from a hot air balloon. Or better yet, dig a big hole 21 feet deep near a cemetery and fly from the hole - the Karen’s or whoever that are using apps will freak out when it looks like someone “6 feet under” near a cemetery is flying a drone. 😝😝😝

@dustcommander100 10 ай бұрын

So the DJI system uses the phone to broadcast data, where the Remote ID modules broadcast data directly?

@EASYUSA Жыл бұрын

I have a DJI Mini 2 and it's on 01.05.0000 and it's showing another update available. I havent seen anything about remote ID on this version I'm on. So I'm not sure if I should update further

@silverspork86 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't. I stopped updating firmware on my dji drones a while ago once I heard of remote id.

@LordExcess Жыл бұрын

I am terrible at taking tests, and I can NOT get this stuff in my brain. I thought I'd be ok just flying for fun, with no monetization. Now that all of this crap has started, I packed up all of my drones, and put them in the closet. There's no hope for me. I give up, you got me. To heck with all of it!

@5zero7RC Жыл бұрын

Well, technically what you did in this video is fine ( assuming your visual observer was off camera ;) ) you can operate without remote ID until next September. However DJI can't sell any new drones without it baked in at this time. :(

@craighermle7727 Жыл бұрын

I'm not a DJI fanboy, but yes I do own their products, and yes I do make money while using them. Everyone can piss and moan about DJI and remote-id, and buy some other product, but remote-id, is going to be a requirement for all new purchases. regardless of manufacturer. Remote id, to me, differs little from having a transponder in an airplane which is an FAA mandate for most of the airspace in the US. If you don't want to play, I'm not addressing you Ken, then don't don't fly or fly a simulator and shut up. The choices seem pretty simple. DJI's implementation right now, at least with theAavata, seems a bit crude, but I have to believe future releases with be a bit more refined, but who knows. Until then, ride your motorcycle without a helmet, don't wear a seat belt, drive with 1 headlight, make sure your tires are worn down to the steel, buy a smokin' diesel, make sure you're one toke over the line, drive drunk, and screw the speed limits, cause this is 'murica. Please give me a fn break.

@yetidynamics Жыл бұрын

the FAA is a relatively small branch of the US federal government, they have much much more important and useful things to do than go and chase violators of what is an utterly useless and pointless regulation

@fpvraver Жыл бұрын

So I’m guessing you need to hook it to your phone with Internet connection so that if you are flying illegally they can catch you or at least log it.

@BlueDroneBlues Жыл бұрын

If you have no phone service in an area you're working in, I guess you're not working there?

@5zero7RC Жыл бұрын

I assume it needs the GPS location of the phone so it can use that data in the Remote ID broadcast. That should not require any internet access.

@pdtech4524 Жыл бұрын

Happy New Year Ken. Don't you just love 'forced updates' that introduce over reaching restrictions to our 'toys'! 😲🤔⚠️😳 At least you can still fly your Avata a reasonable distance! Here in the UK the CAA have introduced a new restriction to VLOS, not only do we have to be able to have a visual on our drone at ALL times, we MUST be able to tell it's orientation visually, WITHOUT using the FPV camera view or nav lights or strobes etc Which effectively means you can fly your Avata around 30m at most⚠️😲😳

@AidanMacnamara777 Жыл бұрын

Wait for it, wait for it....soon DJI will be forced to limit your range via geo-fencing and you will not be able to fly more than 30m from your position!

@pdtech4524 Жыл бұрын

@@AidanMacnamara777 That's the day when many owners like myself will drop DJI products like a red hot brick and they will go.down hill dramatically. I think.DJI know that and will resist actually going that far, we'll see....🤔

@AidanMacnamara777 Жыл бұрын

@@pdtech4524 I think they are already on the slipper slope and it is all downhill from here

@pdtech4524 Жыл бұрын

@@AidanMacnamara777 I think if they do, there will always be another manufacturer to step in and take up the slack... Parrot were doing quite well, almost leading the field at the time, with their Bebop, Bebop 2 and Anafi offerings, such a shame they pulled out of the consumer drone market! Autel are another brand who are capable.... Let's see what the next year brings?

@joelyfpv7075 Жыл бұрын

We just gotta break the law all the time xD

@gordontarpley Жыл бұрын

Whoa! Although I've been subscribed for years, KZfaq hasn't shown me one of your vids in AGES. Good to see you again!

@KenHeron Жыл бұрын

Welcome back!🤓

@skunkfpv Жыл бұрын

me and some others in 901fpv are working on a lightweight remoteid unit that can fit in lightweight fpv drones. I know pcb design so they are helping with gathering info while i am working on a prototype.

@capeRCouple Жыл бұрын

its ridiculous how the drone rules keep getting worse and worse and i think they will prob get worse yet

@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын

But they aren't. 😂 It's the same rules that we knew have been coming for years now. They're just finally being implemented.

@capeRCouple Жыл бұрын

@@dangerous8333 ya until they are implemented and then they start restricting them even more

@Chebva Жыл бұрын

I am not well versed on the subject of drones, but how is that a thing that you are forced to update the firmware if you don't want to?? That doesn't sound like Freedom at all. What will they do? Throw you in jail if you do not update your firmware on your drone for Christ sake?? Is this the USSR now?

@silverspork86 Жыл бұрын

Good question. Like the dji fpv, to fly you don't need to use the fly app. So you'll never get prompts to update firmware unless you hook it up to your phone/fly app (like on a mavic), like when you initially set the drone up. They can't force you to update the firmware on the avata or fpv.

@BadUncleIke Жыл бұрын

"The only power any government has is to crack down on criminals. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." ~ Ayn Rand

@stardrone Жыл бұрын

Just picked up the avata for Christmas, love it so far but absolutely HATE having to manage the battery, the phone and wires while flying.

@boydjensen3161 Жыл бұрын

I got some Hanes underwear for Christmas, and I had to update the firmwear on them. Damn, they want to see what you've got!

@KenHeron Жыл бұрын

They don't say Hanes until the firmware says they say Hanes.

@velocybirr Жыл бұрын

Maybe we need an episode on how to liquidate our drone assets? Because maybe it's over.

@KWADFLYFPVproductions Жыл бұрын

Love your videos. Whether they are more satire or serious. This RID we knew was coming. DJI just made the jump first. Us FPV guys are gonna have it a little tough later on this year. I get both sides of arguments. But unless its educational with a 107 pilot...us fpv guys don't usually above the trees. No reward for us there. All about proximity and tricks below 150agl. Once again thanks for your content! 👍 👌

@KenHeron Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Yeah, we're waiting for the coveted shielded operations here in the United States.

@Vousie Жыл бұрын

@@KenHeron If only my country had that exclusion for the spotter rule... It really is a pain to always have to have a spotter around... (Mainly 'cause they usually want to be flying their own instead of watching me.)

@johnvanderpool4320 9 ай бұрын

You make a solid point. If they programmed in altitude limits instead that could be unlocked by enabling RID that would make perfect sense. Under 200AGL in Class E presents literally no risk - frankly I'd argue the same for 400AGL since that's under the minimum flight deck for helis. My 107 should allow me to fly up to 1,200 AGL with the responsibility being on me to avoid heli collisions.

@apriliajo5030 Жыл бұрын

I started FPV with the Avata months ago and never knew flying without my fone was possible so the firmware upgrade was not an issue. As soon as I fly I put my fone in my pocket or hand it to a watcher/spotter.

@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын

Sheep.

@apriliajo5030 Жыл бұрын

@@dangerous8333 Lifelong Career Shepherd 💪😎👍 LMAO

@donaldmartin7109 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this heads up. I am just a hobby flyer with the carry form. You are the best.

@dh7109 Жыл бұрын

I think I have the answer in the cell coverage. A few weeks ago, before the winter storms, I went flying at my local AMA chapter, because my country doesn't allow ANY drones on ANY open spaces. So I'm 8 miles or so out of town, in the plains, and my cell phone had no signal. I couldn't get my drone too fly more than about 30 feet altitude for more than about 200 feet diameter from my controller. It was lame.

@EvolVillainRC Жыл бұрын

Thats some big brother shit right there. New folks, do yourself a favor and build your own. Happy new year Ken, thanks for sharing this.

@exiledfpv Жыл бұрын

Happy New Year, Ken!!! But.... ....this is exactly why I emailed you about my dilemma!!! 🤣🤣

@chrisscala4221 Жыл бұрын

Just got one, watched the setup videos and my 100% takeaway was, "Why does DJI pronounce the drone name so awfully." The way you say it makes so much more sense.

@goodisnipr Жыл бұрын

FCC Rule 15: A. This device must not produce interference. B. This device must accept any and all interference it receives. IMO, this very much means that all FCC 15 Compliant devices can be remote hacked by the govt at their whim. This is why I've never been part of the drone community.

@WR3ND Жыл бұрын

My phone's GPS coordinates are at the local flying feild. I'm wondering if I should technically reclass my Avata as a home-built UAS with a broadcast module though. 🤔

@sUASNews Жыл бұрын

It is bigger than this Ken, people like Horizon Hobby and Rotor Riot along with all the hobby store mainstays need to be complying with RID as well.

@shanebarber.4695 Жыл бұрын

Hi Ken 👋👍💯😎😀. Happy New Year. Hmmm well, unfortunately we saw this day coming 😥. And with DJI drones it will be mandatory with the remote id. It will make it harder for us drone pilots. I've been flying for almost 4yrs. Now and have almost 4 thousand flights. Not sure what to say. But hope everyone will continue to fly drones and be safe always. Thank you so very much and God bless you all everyday 🙏.

@Andyrewk Жыл бұрын

Ken if you leave the phone plugged up but in airplane mode on will it work then

@IPGAuto Жыл бұрын

That’s because no one gave their input to the FAA. You guys just accept the rules. Regardless.. every aircraft has some form of Remote ID.

@frankelly6742 Жыл бұрын

I have been flying my drone for years. I also have been a private pilot for 40+ years. I became part 107 certified about 3 years ago but after 2 years I decided to not renew as it was a waste of time and money. I do not fly my drone for profit so see no reason to continue to be part 107 certified.

@havedronewillfly3023 Жыл бұрын

Just brings up more questions like the new remote controls for the Mini 3 and such will those have to be hooked up to a phone if you don't have Wi-Fi. People complain about Geo fencing and other things what's gonna happen to these other models that don't already have this to be compliant. It's funny that DJI goes way beyond All the other drone manufacturers and cooperates with the US government yet they're practically still on the ban list.

@johnm.3279 Жыл бұрын

Never update any software. Ever. Every update always translates into a loss of functionality. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

@GardoRotor Жыл бұрын

Your the better man... my version of this video would have had lots of beeps... the fly app got my yesterday!

@xjet Жыл бұрын

Ken, remember what I said three months ago? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9SKmb2TteCrnKM.html And don't blame DJI, they have no option here. It's comply or face sanctions for breaching the rule. From a user's perspective, it's still legal for you to disable one element of the RID by unplugging your smartphone but as of 16 Sept 2023, you are forbidden to do that. Right now the responsibility for compliance is on the manufacturer but in September the responsiblity falls on the operator's shoulders as the second part of the RID rule comes into effect.

@KenHeron Жыл бұрын

I do remember. This video is for new owners who may not be aware. Thanks for fighting the fight!

@N1h1L3 Жыл бұрын

You can test obligatory cell coverage using it on airplane mode, see if it is still id'ing. So just a (phone) dongle or cloud authorizing.

@rondunlap4628 Жыл бұрын

Ty for the link Ken I have gotten through the first section Operation so great link and fantastic site

@RCOverKill Жыл бұрын

I used remote pilot101, the only thing I missed was remote id questions because I guess they just added those questions, and Jason hadn't put anything in about remote ID yet.

@iftikharhaq3147 Жыл бұрын

With enough backlash, they can change their mind. Look at the $600 reporting with the IRS, that was delayed because of public outcry.

@iftikharhaq3147 Жыл бұрын

@@Quickcat21MK - Delayed, because both sides are wanting a higher limit. Republicans are pushing for $20,000 and democraps want $5,000. I doubt it'll be $600 limit will be established

@iftikharhaq3147 Жыл бұрын

@@Quickcat21MK - It used to be 20k, and republicans want to keep it there. Democrats are the ones who want to tax everyone out of existence. 20K seems logical

@chrishope82666 Жыл бұрын

Another step in the parade route. Thanks for sharing Ken. On my phantom it looks like its there but it gives me the option to turn on, have you noticed that.

@KenHeron Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@Thunderbyrd. Жыл бұрын

I suppose I'll have to drag my P4P back out to replace the Air2s

@lindseypenn107 Жыл бұрын

Do you have to have remote id on an ultralight that you can fly and record video with out any license? Asking for a friend.. 🤔

@lorageproductions Жыл бұрын

If the remote ID is hindering our ability to fly properly and we are going to be obliged to fly with a cellular phone instead of tablet then this is very damaging

@MoshMob Жыл бұрын

Im so glad Ive been able to avoid updating the firmware so far! i do see it coming in the next fireware update tho....

@OneStudPuppy 5 ай бұрын

Ohh I hear that same funny motor harmonic I get too. Forgot about that. Nice to see it was some of the older models just a noise

@BobCaseyAerial Жыл бұрын

Good video Ken. Wishing you an Awesome 2023 Health & Happiness. Happy New Year

@lawncraft3868 Жыл бұрын

This is one of the main reasons I just sold my Air 2S. Building my own drones going forward. Sad that it has had to come to this, as I like DJI drones.

@checkeredflagfilms Жыл бұрын

It applies to home built drones as well

@lawncraft3868 11 ай бұрын

@@checkeredflagfilms I can choose to leave the tracking unit off of homebuilt drones. Just because it is a law does not make it just.

@jarexxsuvexx8212 Жыл бұрын

Returned the Avata 1 week ago not because of remote ID but because of the annoying extra cable dangling around. Hopefully they will either introduce a new Avata or Goggles 2 with built in GPS.

@758Redwhulf Жыл бұрын

Should have just hacked it and rolled the firmware back

@shadowofchaos8932 Жыл бұрын

You must comply with Remote ID! But we won't be checking or enforcing everyone to use it so...yup. Oh, my drone is sub 250 and doesn't need remote id. Sorry, I don't have a scale with me to prove it.

@MikeKinney8675 Жыл бұрын

A couple of firmwares back DJI forced RID on the mini 3 pro, even though it's under 250, unless you use the 47 min. battery.

@silverspork86 Жыл бұрын

Lesson: don't update firmware. I haven't update firmware on my air 2 in over 2 years. It flies with no issues. I don't want them sneaking shit in the update.

@TechnicallyTom Жыл бұрын

Here’s the thing though. If you have old air units, this is the same update on the goggles side that makes the old air units work with the Goggles 2. The one thing I can think of more annoying is having to take two pairs of goggles when you go flying. In DJIs defense, whenever there is a news article about drone misuse, it’s a good bet that the picture will be of DJIs most popular drone even though it’s less likely a DJI drone due to the steps DJI has taken to prevent some illegal flights. It’s odd that this seems to be one of the first they decided to put remote I’d on when the place this type of drone was made to fly is inside.

@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын

You think this drone was made to fly inside? Are you kidding? 😂 That's nonsense. Think about it. If it was made for that why would none of their promotional videos show people flying it indoors. 🤦

@NJFPV Жыл бұрын

While it CAN be flown indoors, it is definitely not designed for indoor flight. If it was, it wouldn't be able to fly 60 mph.

@TechnicallyTom Жыл бұрын

@@dangerous8333 Inside and around soft targets. That’s what cinewhoops were designed for. The ducts really hurt performance but it’s worth the extra safety if flying indoors or near people. Some of the locations DJI shows in their promos really don’t need the guards. They also have a huge number of videos flying over water but the first thing support will tell you if you go down in water is that you should not have been flying over water.

@TechnicallyTom Жыл бұрын

@@NJFPV My other cinewhoops can go that fast too. Cinewhoops do not like even a little wind and don’t handle as well I think it’s more like cinewhoops can be flown outside but they were designed to be flown indoors or in an environment that you want to protect from the props. My 3” freestyle quad goes faster. If you were going to choose the best drone to do an indoor flight, it would be a cinewhoop. Anything that can fly acro or manual mode is going to go silly fast.

@NJFPV Жыл бұрын

@@TechnicallyTom We agree on cinewhoops, but DJI has made it very apparent what they made the Avata for - go watch all of their promotional materials for the quad - none of it includes indoor flight. It is a great indoor flier, but it operates just fine in wind. I was responding strictly to your statement that they shouldn't have put remote ID on it because it is purpose-built to fly indoors... That's simply not true. They built it to be a capable cinematic platform that anyone can fly - even if you don't know how to fly with sticks. I have personally flown mine indoors twice, and outdoors hundreds of times. Any Avata video I've ever seen is outdoors. It's not a tiny whoop...

@paxscapes Жыл бұрын

I have purchased 5 DJI Drone product over the years. As well as their Sport Cameras and Microphones, I have spent over $9,000 with DJI. I will not longer be purchasing their products.

@Jakecloudsuck Жыл бұрын

I'll be damned if I buy a cell phone just to comply with this. Luckily I haven't updated and won't. Thanks for the heads-up. Yeah, I know updates are now mandatory but screw them.

@aloeisthestuff9622 Жыл бұрын

Why do so many run their mouths just to be put on Lists?

@silverspork86 Жыл бұрын

They are mandatory? I haven't updated my air 2 in two years or my fpv in 1 year. I'm keeping old firmware for a reason.

@Jakecloudsuck Жыл бұрын

@@silverspork86 only what I read. But the FAA is too busy to go around checking. No more updates for me. I'm happy with the features I have now! Johm

@yvesm6627 Жыл бұрын

Here in Pilot Mountain NC most people have not heard of part 107 and are most likely using drones for commercial purposes.

@fpvpilot7713 Жыл бұрын

Sold all my Dji stuff because of it. Building my own now. Mine fly great anywhere any place. I have heard that Dji puts a timer in drones so they shut down at some point to force updates before they will fly again. They lost this customer. I have had probably a half dozen Dji drones. No more for me.

@jplfly Жыл бұрын

I'm a Part 61 ASEL so I am used to remote Id. That being said, I'm almost finished with my Part 107 and some of the stuff in the curriculum and on the tests seem a bit too much. But, having dealt with the FAA and the NTSB for decades, it doesn't surprise me.

@jplfly Жыл бұрын

But, I have a question about DJI that, so far, I have not been able to get answered. I fly a Phantom IV Pro Plus. Right now, it is non RID compliant. Does anyone know if DJI is planning to update all models' firmware? I have not received any notices and I know if DJI doesn't upegrade, then I will need to buy an add-on module.

@carlestes9797 Жыл бұрын

That's exactly why I never updated anything on my Mavic Gen I since I cracked the box over 3 years ago.......

@carlestes9797 Жыл бұрын

Sent you a friend request to "that place", flycaster...

@carlestes9797 Жыл бұрын

Hey Ken, I think some voodoo head is hijacking your channel. Got a request from "you" to reach out via discord.........

@JJBelyeu Жыл бұрын

The real question is what does the reg consider "ready to fly out of the box" and how can manufacturers get around this? Does attaching the props count as not ready to fly? What about screwing on the arms or another piece of the body? Drones that aren't "ready to fly out of the box" are NOT currently subject to this reg from what I've heard

@mikefromwa Жыл бұрын

Great video and very informative. Are there any open source drone plans or kits out there?

@dinos_chili_seeds Жыл бұрын

Dont need this in Sweden yet i think. And i hope they dont get this here either. But most people dont register there drones here either. And that sucks i register my mini2 before first flight. But all the other drones are to expensive anyways for me. But im glad to have my first drone and its a mini 2 and i still learning everyday. Huge Thanks To all your content amazing to learn everything you upload. And you do it in a fun way so a 41 year old man with adhd stay listen on all things you have to say. That i didnt do when my teachers talk in school 😂😂😂🙈 Happy new year Ken hope you get a amazing year 2023. I hope one day that i can travel to Usa thats on of my biggest dreams that will come hopefully someday in the future. All is so expensive when you have ptsd and cant work for the moment. Stay safe take care Best wishes from Sweden 🇸🇪🇺🇸👍🏼💪🏻😊💪🏻

@KenHeron Жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend! 🇸🇪👍

@fortyfour6626 Жыл бұрын

Since I installed…my connection has gotten interrupted multiple times. It was flawless before. Once time yesterday, the video screen froze and it was only 150 feet directly above. The newest firmware clearly changed something that had an effect on my transmission.

@myfalconry76 Жыл бұрын

Another thing dji could do is not store all the damn files on my phone. 13gb of dji files. Slows the phone down and I’m sure it’s affecting dji avata performance. They definitely manipulate flights to cause crashes undoubtedly