Guys! I understand that it was confirmed that they are not connected! But we have an amazing community, and it's still fun to make up theories. The player's love to the lore brings great ideas even if they are not correct. And I liked this theory and wanted to share it with you guys! Thank you for clarifying that it's not connected though :) and also: Thank you so much for the support! YOU ARE AWESOMEEE
@pipomplop Жыл бұрын
Yeah, thank you. Pretty nice video actually, and just earned a new subscriber!
@goldensl2091 Жыл бұрын
:) אחלה סירטון נרשמתי
@gunsevenwhillans4206 ай бұрын
I was about to write about how "Miyazaki said that none of the different franchises share a universe" until I saw this comment.
@hesmycat5 ай бұрын
It matters not. Players must be free to be wrong, or else cause and effect doesn't really affect the game, and then it's boring. Souls games are the only ones that manage to let you be wrong in the real world thinking about it too, but also at the same time, has no correct answers necessarily. It's so cool...
@condorkon79285 ай бұрын
Confirmed by who
@christopherulatowsky5374 Жыл бұрын
The Dung Eater's ending leads to all the bad Soul's clones.
@VidaAnimada Жыл бұрын
This is peak comment
@dp27thelight9 Жыл бұрын
You imperial bastard!!!...... Justice!!!
@theultimatep1e40 Жыл бұрын
leads to dark souls 2 lol
@glogangglory Жыл бұрын
@@VidaAnimadacasual 1 mil youtuber cosign is crazy
@judge831 Жыл бұрын
It leads to Sekiro because there are butt eaters there too.
@dancingcow8640 Жыл бұрын
There is a shield called the Sun Realm Shield, that drops rarely from skeletal swordsman enemies. It depicts what seems to be Anor Londo, and the item description says that the shield is very old. Implying that dark souls came before elden ring
@Huskified Жыл бұрын
This might connect dark souls to sekiro🤑🤑🤫🤫
@nerfer200 Жыл бұрын
i think it's a shield showing Anor Londo as well, but "the shield is faded, and has seen better days" part makes me think that this was a personal nod to dark souls, saying how it's glory days are faded
@pubfriendthegreat1259 Жыл бұрын
@@Huskified Land of the Reeds = Japan maybe?
@notspacekeeper Жыл бұрын
@@pubfriendthegreat1259 Yes, it's very obviously based on medieval Japan. Land soaked in blood, reeds used as armor, samurai.
@pubfriendthegreat1259 Жыл бұрын
@@notspacekeeper sorry I didn't specify, I meant where sekiro takes place in japan (ashina). Thinking elden ring and sekiro are in the same universe. Though obviously not because no one in sekiros universe does blood ashes of war. Since weapons related to the land of reeds so blood arts of sorts.
@figo3554 Жыл бұрын
For part 1, lending on the idea of Dark Souls before Elden ring, one connection could be the arch dragon peak in ds3. The whole point of that place was basically to wait out the end of the world and repopulate it with dragons. That would lend to the idea that dragons once again ruled over the world. Regarding the duskborn ending, I remember Fia calling the cursemark of death a hallowbrand. I vaguely remember the darksign in ds3 being called a hollowbrand. Funny connection there.
@somefrog6089 Жыл бұрын
There are multiple similarities between Archdragon Peak and Crumbling Farum Azula...
@eriickson5058 Жыл бұрын
SPOILER ALERT! The characters on all the soulsborne cover art is actually Patches in their armor…….
@simons1120 Жыл бұрын
I thought to myself that IF there's something like a joint timeline, Bloodborne takes place after the events of Dark Souls 3 because the curse becomes... bloodborne, through the actions of Gael. Elden Ring, in turn, takes place within the painting that was painted with the blood of the Dark Soul. This would explain why the game world is so picturesque and at times, not logcial.
@toby7712 Жыл бұрын
And everything in the beginning cutscene is painted
@simons1120 Жыл бұрын
@@toby7712 Good find! I didn't even notice.
@prodbyANT Жыл бұрын
The painting theory is why I think ER happens after DS3
@jsbfkdls Жыл бұрын
I'd literally cry tears of joy to find out that its all connected. A literaly masterpiece in every sense of the word.
@TheTantanski Жыл бұрын
Sekiro is the land of reeds?
@QuantumTelephone Жыл бұрын
Tinfoil hat: On Crackpipe: Smoked Hotel: Trivago
@androstia_ffxiv6154 Жыл бұрын
This was a very good vid, definitely got me thinking about possible connections between the games. I now have a theory that the Moon Presence could possibly be Ranni, warped by her long travels through the stars only to return to find the world in the grasp of different outer gods hence why MP wants hunters to kill them. Just a rough theory tho
@ther3alkuskus Жыл бұрын
Super Interesting. I'm glad you liked the video!
@seanduncan9310 Жыл бұрын
That’s actually pretty clever man. I like that idea.
@yusted1 Жыл бұрын
Miyazaki watching this: interesting
@TheCreepyLantern Жыл бұрын
the best part of this kind of theory is just the UNENDING SHITSHOW Patches has seen. 'cause it'd mean it's the same guy. every time. somehow this immortal little bastard has gone through a million years of the world going from one kind of hell to another and he's still finding it fun to kick people down pits. bless him.
@andylastname566 Жыл бұрын
I mean...he's gotta find some small things to enjoy... after dying and coming back to life. xD
@Posaydal Жыл бұрын
He first appeared in Armored Core For Answer which takes place in a future version of our world.
@TheCreepyLantern Жыл бұрын
@@Posaydal man fell into a black hole and got spat out into the Soulsborne timeline or something then! :D
@finnmiller-new6383 Жыл бұрын
The full moon ending into bloodborne can be supported with the pthumerians aprearing similar to the albinauric of old in the eternal cities (both found underground and both worshipping the stars and outer beings like the moon. Also the moon ending could relate to the outer god moon presance which ranni interacted with unknowingly and set in motion the rise of the beast curse and their hunters
@lethal0304 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of this theory but I totally loved the introduction of new theories and ideas. There is so much repetitive Elden Ring content out there so this feels sooooooo refreshing.
@jasperfox6821 Жыл бұрын
I loved this theory, infact it's now my head cannon, for demon's souls, since it's the age of duskborne, and since immortality was gone from the world, the Erdtree could have also witherd away, its roots deep underground, forming into what is known as the old one, or something like that, I mean, its a coincidence that the old one is a demonic tree.
@TheKinginRed Жыл бұрын
I think a really interesting note to add to evidence of them existing in a "multiverse" like existence, is the Millwood knights in dark souls 3. It says in their armor descriptions that they worship "the ethereal Oak" which very much describes the erdtree. However we are never introduced to this tree in dark souls, yet the imagery is in shields and other armor as well. But most notable, the Millwood knights are found in the painted world, indicating they are lost or without home. These could be some of the tarnished that were hounded from the lands between.
@shanedillis153 Жыл бұрын
Mill woods remind me a lot of the smurfs with the damn aimbot
@Kamishi845 Жыл бұрын
The problem here is that the Erdtree isn't an oak but a beech tree.
@zkf5448 Жыл бұрын
When I saw fia sitting at the Elden throne for the first time i couldn’t but notice the similarities between her and the “the old one” from demon souls so I believe that that ending starts demon souls
@lorddervish212quinterosara6 Жыл бұрын
Honestly none of them makes sense if you look each case in depth. It is stated very clearly that the Frenzied flame melts all life away into a single huge mass once again, if you think that life could spawn again from this "Oneness" and create specifically the world of Dark Souls despite both working with different laws of reality, you may as well say any other of the games could have come from this ending. Ranni's ending doesn't get rid of the Greater Will, it will always exist unless the world itself is destroyed, is the manifestation of the collective consciousness wishing for order in a chaotic world, kinda like in Berserk where "God" is the manifestation of humanity's wish for an explanation to their suffering. What Ranni did is get the Elden Ring out of mortal or outer god's reach so no one can play being the King of the world anymore and prevent anyone from taking a stupid desition for all of us, like removing the Rune of Death or literally shattering reality. The Dusk ending doesn't connect with Demon's souls at all, there are not demons in Elden Ring to begin with, both worlds function differently and the guy just made the connecting because of the grim and bleak aesthetic
@JeanneFeisontАй бұрын
One super important detail that sort of confirms to me that DS3's painting at the end of Ashes of Ariandel/The Ringed City leads into Elden Ring: The Two Fingers, who commune with Metyr and then the Greater Will.. Remember the Painter Girl in the Painted World of Ariandel? Do you remember how, upon first discovering her, she is seemingly painting or etching something into the table with her finger? Well, while there are brushes and paint scattered on the table beside where she sits and paints later... I believe she paints the world all **by hand** after receiving the Dark Soul and the flames she desired. This is why the 'Fingers' have that sort of shape and why finger iconography is so rampant in the world. The world of Elden Ring is literally hand crafted-- finger painted even. The Greater Will is no longer communicating with the fingers because the Painter Girl has died in the outside world, succumbing to the flame, her painting completed. (Bonus: Look at her painting btw.... Is that... The Gate of Divinity from the DLC?? Where Marika ascended to Godhood?? We see in the promotional CGI trailer that it used to be blood red before Miquella attempted to use it.)
@ashwindlasanco4555Ай бұрын
Good one!
@silasstryder Жыл бұрын
My headcanon is the timeline is this. Demon's Souls bad ending where the old one shrouds the whole planet in fog leveling all manmade objects to dust and thus begins the ancient era of dragons and the start of Dark Souls. Bloodborne occurs between DS1 and DS2 as one of the many cycles, Bloodborne's influence made apparent in DS3 in many item descriptions and boss fights. Then the age of darkness ending occurs in DS3 and everything is consumed by the deep. Eventually the deep recedes and the start of Elden Ring begins. Items, weapons, armor, and concepts combined, twisted, and reformed in the deep the most durable of concepts being dragons who are the first to reappear and thus the Elden Ring story begins the concept of the age of fire combined with Bloodborne and Demon's Souls elements to become the Erd Tree
@mindseyemusicreview Жыл бұрын
I think elden ring makes way more sense as a prequel to dark souls with the frenzied flame ending. The world was burned to ash but eventually fire arose again. All the souls the erdtree absorbed went back into grey nothingness and eventually awoke as dragons
@Melanias_Consort8 ай бұрын
Rannis ending is misunderstood because a mistranslation that couldn't be changed in time to numerous voice lines already recorded for release. She doesn't bring a dark ending, she takes the Elden ring far away on a journey to destinations unknown, which you take with her, into fear, doubt, and loneliness, because you will leave behind all you know. She's doing this to keep it far from mankind, so their troubles and biases, and natural imperfections cannot corrupt the order. This can be confirmed with a simple Google search. The game is designed in Japanese, the dialogue is written in Japanese, and the first draft is in Japanese. They have to port it to America to be translated, which was rushed because the release was shortened. Thus leading to errors in the complex Japanese languages translation. Slight changes of tone can mean entirely different things, so it is very easy to mistranslate if rushed. And none of it could be fixed because they would have to fly the voice actors out again to re-record every line..... So no, it's not blood borne. Age of frenzy is not dark souls, because frenzy flame is madness, not a physical flame, but the anguish of madness focused into a ray that happens to set things on fire. So, you don't keep this thing alight... Because it's not a fire. It's a sentient being/eldritch horror capable of mass manipulation and destruction. And your dumbass fell for it's tricks for a couple highly gimicky spells. These are fun to think about but there's lore that explains things. And these only work if you look at everything face value. That's like me saying Halo must be the past life of Destinys universe, because they both have ghosts. They aren't even comparable things because of vast differences. Frenzy isn't even a physical fire, its driving someone so insane their brain starts shooting pure agony from their eyes (hence the damage to you) that sets things on fire because the intensity. Magic in this game is built on intent. And the 3 fingers made the flames of frenzy as intent, because it's not true flames, it too can burn the erdtree, just like the godskin apostles black flames. The Erdtree is impenetrable, it can only be broken with 1 of 3 kinds of fire: 1. Enchanted fire (Black Flame) 2. Cursed fire (Frenzy Flame) 3. Sacred fire (Giants Flame) Otherwise you aren't getting in. The only thing close to actual fire is Giants Flame. It's extremely hot and is derived from deep magma magic and flames from the intensity of the suns surface. The other two are interesting...ones real fire enhanced and imbued with the rune of destined death. I'm a nerd. Gnight
@sol.ringen27 күн бұрын
Don’t know why this comment didn’t get more attention
@xcuqix Жыл бұрын
loved the video., the pacing, the narration.. ambient, attention to videoproduction details... love the theory, fellow Tarnished you've earned a sub!
@ther3alkuskus Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@murray821 Жыл бұрын
I once came up with an idea that in a next game it could be all coming together, and that there would be classes to choose from every game. Having Demon Slayers, Beast Hunters, Shinobi, Tarnished and Ashen ones. I don’t think there have to be more sub classes of each game, as you can spec the way you want. So in a way all start with depraved or wretched class but having the different leveling system from the different games.
@jkthegreat5687 Жыл бұрын
The ultimate fan service
@Bon_fyre Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see those worlds quite literally collide, perhaps through being connected by the arch trees seen in each game. I also wonder what the final boss of that game would look like, as it would have to be one that would be much greater than any final boss from the previous games, and perhaps even a final boss to close out the entire from soft universe as a whole. Though, that will probably just remain as a nice head cannon, I doubt that they actually planned that.
@Mouldy_Cheese Жыл бұрын
@@Bon_fyre the final boss is just the Royaler rat vanguard with bigger fatter rats
@watchmurraydostuff2468 Жыл бұрын
I never really thought about how the worlds of the souls series may be related, but this video gave me a fun "what if" moment. Good job; your content is entertaining.
@miirshroom Жыл бұрын
All things yearn to converge. Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Armoured Core - they are prequels to Elden Ring. Demon's Souls is Ranni's nightmare - her fears of being a Fool's Idol bound in service to the Two Fingers Dark Souls is Godwyn's nightmare - keeping lit the flame of frenzy Bloodborne is Miquella's nightmare upon the altar of blood. Sekiro is Malenia's nightmare - a warrior tired of a lifetime of pain but unable to stop fighting in service of her lord Armoured Core 1-5 is Melina's nightmare - the Gloam-eyed queen is a queen of Ravens forced from her home and contracted in the service of others to survive. Armoured Core 6, I suspect, is the closest FromSoft will get to following up the Frenzy Flame ending. I do think that it is possible that a Bloodborne 2 will be made - possibly with ties to Rykard (hopefully with more mushrooms). But overall I think that the Age of Stars ending is telegraphing that FromSoft is working on developing a new IP with a sci-fi theme.
@ther3alkuskus Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this amazing idea! You have a very interesting point there.
@MemoriesLP Жыл бұрын
Armored core are prequel to Elden Ring because you hire mercenaries? Is MGS V a prequel to Elden Ring too?
@miirshroom Жыл бұрын
@@MemoriesLP lol, you can't even tell what games are in FromSoft's catalogue. Sad.
@shanedillis153 Жыл бұрын
No bloodborne to Miyazaki hates making sequels I’m pretty sure there trying to just make new IPs
@MemoriesLP Жыл бұрын
@@miirshroom It is all a master plan from Kojima. He actually works for from software too, and his MGS V was a prequel to Armored core, because metal gear has mercenaries and big robots
@hypotrainАй бұрын
Every time this theory gets brought back up again with every new release I get just a little closer to ending it all
@hollowboy5899 Жыл бұрын
i believe in the Ash Lake from DS1 theory wich is: all the soulsborne are related because of Ash Lake having those trees wich are a "gate" to another world. And i think that in the ants underground place there's a tree related to that
@pricer1707 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you for captioning your stuff, as someone who has ADHD and is also hard of hearing, it was really nice to have something to help me focus better :) Your editing is also very good! Earned a subscribe :) Also, your pronunciation and spelling are doing very nicely, good luck with your future work :)
@ther3alkuskus Жыл бұрын
I'm super happy you enjoyed! Thank you!
@ghosttimm420 Жыл бұрын
I've always theorized that the Frenzied Flame ending kicked off Dark Souls, I mean you even have the "Daughters of Chaos"! Also, I believe that the game Sekiro, could be the Land of Reeds. "A land long been locked in a miserable civil war, during which time it has remained alienated from the cultures of its neighbors. Little wonder that the entire nation has succumbed to blood-soaked madness."
@SolVentulus Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting theory to think about. Maybe the immediate question to follow this theory might be, if this is true, then which world (game) would come from the "true ending" and which ones would be something akin to "what if" stories? Or even, could any of these endings happen at the same time (or close to it) to bring more than one of these timelines into existence and maybe take place in different parts of the world? Love that games can have such interesting lore that people can talk about and theorize on for years and maybe even get things answered eventually.
@andylastname566 Жыл бұрын
I would say...they are all happening at the same time, just a different fork in the road if you will.
@zombiedemon1762 Жыл бұрын
At the very least, I currently believe these games are in the same universe or at least multiverse because Patches The Spider is in more than just Bloodborne although not always a spider.
@LunaDeaminac Жыл бұрын
Personally I always thought that Demon’s Souls followed the Dark Lord ending in DS1 (a human is in charge so that just makes sense to me) and the link the fire ending was what eventually causes DS3 with DS2 happening either way. The opening cutscene of Elden Ring talks about ‘crossing the fog’ to the Lands Between so it might follow Demon’s Souls Maiden Killer ending as that causes the world to be lost in a deep fog or be concurrent with the era of Colourless fog that appears in D’sS. Bloodborne could then follow the slumbering Old One ending as Soul Arts are lost with that ending and BB doesn’t have the same magic system. I’m kind of curious where people would say Kings Field comes in this series though, there’s no reason to not include it really.
@justrandomstuff6828Ай бұрын
There are runes that say something in the lines of "runes of a hero who, upon completing their mission, they'd immediately die", those are the hollows and the unkindled, i believe Elden Ring's world is Dark Souls', only in a very distant future, Bloodborne is the painting in 3, it's literally made of blood
@astralnaught9431 Жыл бұрын
I figured they were all different levels of hell like Dante’s inferno connected by the trees.
@fernandobr32 Жыл бұрын
it´s incredioble how a small channel could make such a good video
@ther3alkuskus Жыл бұрын
I just started my journey :) thanks for the support!
@fernandobr32 Жыл бұрын
@@ther3alkuskus big success for you
@CarlosGarcia-ks7fo Жыл бұрын
His accent plus the music gave me the vibes of the best of assassin's creed franchise This is a great video🤌🏻
@somefrog6089 Жыл бұрын
There are multiple similarities between Archdragon Peak and Crumbling Farum Azula...
@Ginkami Жыл бұрын
Before I even watch this video, I've always loved the idea of the universes being intertwined somehow, and to me, the arch trees were the key to that I'm not entirely sure about demon's souls since I haven't completed it yet, but in ds1-3, BB, and elden ring, there's this common theme of ancient trees or pillars, some kind of almost void with pillars rising into the distance To me it feels like the Erdtrees just are archtrees and by extension different worlds bound together in the void
@Rogue.Rainbow Жыл бұрын
I had the -half assed-thought that the lands between existed in the same world as all other fromsoft games. And those other games (Dark Souls, Sekiro, Bloodborne etc) are parts of the outside world in the lands between. The tarnished, all left the lands between at one point and they could probably have ended up in all the other cities, kingdoms and places from the other games, living in them as regular people, but when the Elden Ring was shattered and the Greater Will called them to return to the lands between they answered and left before the main plot of each of the other games began.
@roberthayes9931 Жыл бұрын
I was re-reading the gunslinger and it speaks of a misbegotten half Raven half-man. Perhaps they used inspiration from The dark Tower and the eard tree contains every level of existence and just like The dark Tower there is a physical embodiment and it's in the lands between. Last coincidence at the end of The dark Tower Roland starts his journey over again only with something new from his past as you do at the end of elden ring. Also in both worlds the world has moved on.
@shayenbrown910 Жыл бұрын
game creator: All these games are standalone and occur in their own universe youtuber: Its all connected XDXDXD
@nox_cadit Жыл бұрын
I rather the theory that DeS is connected to DS/BB, and ER is primordial to all of that, cause inside the Erd Tree we see lots of great trees and the theory suggests that each great tree sustains a world, Lands Between is the main world, the inner most world, and those endless great trees we see inside the erd tree are connected to the other universes, but the souls universe follows a timeline where the order is DeS, DS/BB. So through lulling the old one back to sleep the world would eventually be healed back together and culminate into BB, where they use blood instead of souls. If we kill the Maiden in Black the fog takes over, and this fog is the same fog from DS1. The first flame appears through the old one wooden body, and thus the soul arts come back to life, but now the irrevocable curse of the old one is manifested through Gwyn's fear making him place the dark sign on humanity, accidentally or purposefully linking it to the flame (soul) and begetting the curse mark and the curse of the undead. The interesting part is that humanity is always trying to rid itself from the irrevocable curse of the old one. Eventually DS would start to touch BB universe, through the blood paintings, bevause humanity saw that they could not get rid of the curse and they discovered a possible way to get rid of it, through blood. Thus the paintings are ways to try and scape to BB universe. I never played BB but i know a few things here and there, i believe that there is still a curse on that world, but that is the first tile humanity has a chance of getting rid of the curse altogether, but atba great cost, becoming one of the great ones (or old ones i don't know how are they called). ER comes into play not only through the great tree but the curse Marika put on the tarnished, they would venture out on other lands and die endless deaths and only then be summoned back to the LB. So the irrevocable curse of the old one is the manifestation of Marika's curse of humanity, and Gwyn's curse too.
@Phantomselbst Жыл бұрын
The little human brain is always looking for connections and deeper meanings. And as it does so, it constructs those connections and puts deeper meaning into them.
@bengorham1605 Жыл бұрын
The flow of time in Lordran is convoluted indeed. I believe there is no true beginning or ending point as far as a timeline goes. They all exist, together and separately, tangled and sometimes crossing into each other. While I love the theory that they are all directly linked to one another in a linear fashion, it just doesn’t make sense thematically. The Erdtree has burned millions of times, the fire linked until everything was ash. These worlds are just blips on an endless and timeless entanglement and exist neither before or after one another. Great video btw :)
@matthewbennett1972 Жыл бұрын
It’s a ring.
@douglascramer15019 ай бұрын
Theory: Bloodborne is tied to the Lord of Blood Ending. The Game takes place in Miquela's dream. Evidence: Miquela, aka St Trina, appears to be asleep in a cocoon full of blood, influenced by Mogh, who is the avatar of the Formless Mother. In a World that the Formless Mother reigns supreme, blood would eventually corrupt and pervert the users. Argument: The Great Ones arriving are the result of killing Radahn, which allows them to come to the Lands Between, since the Stars can flow again.
@TheGrimReapTM Жыл бұрын
the "dark souls takes place before Elden Ring" doesn't have any evidence, because we do know that Lands Between existed way before the Erdtree existed, the item description talks about that time, the time of the Great tree
@Souls_ApartКүн бұрын
One theory I kind of had was that all the games are basically the same story but kind of retold. So like how Zelda is basically the same story but just different views of the same one. Or one of the above. The fire Giants cauldron seems to be very similar to the Lord of Cinders arena in DS3. and possibly, if we burn the erdtree and torch the world for a new, would that not be the first flame?
@brenersilva7361 Жыл бұрын
My personal teory, darksouls universe begins in a word that dragons won the war against Marika, they burn the eldtree to the groud and somehow kill the elden beast but without a dragon to be a "elden lord" they become the everlasting dragons.
@deathknight1239 Жыл бұрын
My theory is that elden ring takes place alongside the soulsborne series in a sort of pocket dimension similar to that of the paintings, think of it as a sort of neverland to the soulsborne series earth. I have 2 main reasons for believing this, 1. Elden ring says it exists across the fog in the lands between, doesn't that sound alot like how you get to neverland? They are literally called the lands between and you get there by crossing from other unknown lands, what is the land in-between of? Well to answer that I need to tell you my second reason. 2. The timeline and technology/magic development of the lands between doesn't fit well within any of the other titles even though those titles actually fit well with eachother, yet there are too many coincidences and connections to the other games for elden ring to just be its own thing in a separate universe. I believe demon souls take place first, the original souls that were gifted to the world by an unknown entity i belive was from an outer god if not the creator/leader of the outer gods, with the ending of the game resulting in all these souls to be devoured by the big demon thing causing them to eventually consolidate into 3 great lord souls that gwen the chaos witch and the furtive pygmy found leading into ds1-3, during this time period where these souls were consolidating and forming the lord souls the ancient dragons were formed and roamed the land freely, after the events of dark souls 3 a new painted world is created using the blood of the dark soul which directly traces back its power to the outer gods, I think bloodborne takes place in this painting, I think the blood that the church starts using is the corrupted blood of the dark soul and when they starts abusing its power it draws the attention of the outer gods whose power the dark soul comes from leading to the people who used the blood to become cursed and turn into hideous monsters, and as these various gods start interacting with and corrupting the painting bloodborne happens. Now you may ask when and where does sekero take place ? And to answer your question I think it takes place in the main dark souls world outside of any paintings in inbetween ds2 and 3 in an Eastern land where Shiva of the east and the ninjas are from. So just to summarize the events in order the outergods gives the world form and souls leading to demonsouls, when that game ends all souls are consolidated leading into an age of fog/dragons until the souls power forms the 3 lord souls causing the events of ds1-3, sekiro takes place in between ds2 and 3 in an Eastern land with no real impact on the events of the main series, the final painting is the world that becomes bloodborne when the church eventually finds and uses the blood of the darksoul that created their world leading to the outergods to once again show their influence and start corrupting anyone and anything that uses the power of the blood. And elden ring takes place alongside these games in a neverland like pocket dimension in this same universe which happens to have closer more direct ties to these outergods.
@deathknight1239 Жыл бұрын
Sorry about the long essay like comment, I just had to make sure I fully explained my theory and was able to get my points across.
@Elden-Lord2945 ай бұрын
Late to the party gere but it's definitely all connected. FromSoftware are too creative to be as lazy as use Elden Ring enemy's with the literal same name and appearance as Dark Souls for example My theory is Elden Ring is the beginning, but as we know time is not linear in the game, also the end. Il try and explain as short as I can: My theory is for Golden Order and Age of Fracture endings, Elden Ring universe continues as it is, with the outer gods happy this leads to a good future. Frenzied Flame, inevitably kills everything with little existing for thousands of years. However, as time goes past, the flame is extinguished, leaving the age of the ancients and a world shrouded in fog (smoke), with just the immortal dragons having survived and ruled the world. Then, from an ember, the fire restarted and some beings underneath the world, came into contact with the fire and gained great power from lord souls (great runes), and rose up back to the surface. So the dark souls story takes place. The story then ends, with the painter painting a new world for Gael, of which, is then Elden Ring again, which is the outer gods way of starting again and rectifying. This would explain why so many creature's are the same, weapons and artifacts, plus things being named after Gael. Age of the stars then leads to Bloodbourne, where at the end we wake from a dream, to cross the fog as tarnished. Age of duskborn in my eyes leads to sekiro, like the theory in the video states where beings are trying to get immortality back through what seems to be a form Dragon Communion. We know sekiro is set in Land of Ashina. Ashi, translates to Reed in English. All of the Samurai, Okina Mask and some Katanas in Elden Ring come from "Land of Reed" in their description, which gives some indication the place Sekiro is set is present in Elden Rings universe. And in the Return Sekiro ending, we travel to the west, to the divine dragons origin, likely, the lands between.
@Lone_wolf144 Жыл бұрын
Sekiro's true ending was the death of sekiro. But in the dragon's return ending, they set out on journey to west, to find out the origins of the divine dragon and the divine tree. And the fun thing is, the way we end up in crumbling farum azula and reach dragonlord placidusax, is a lot similar to how we reach the fountainhead palace and reach The divine realm.
@mrslasher1064Ай бұрын
I personally believe that elden ring takes place at the end First demon souls,then dark souls,then bloodborne and sekiro (which i think take place at the same time) and finally elden ring The outer gods are the great ones who are now returning to the planet after being gone,sending their vassals (like Metyr and Eldenbeast) to influence humanity,there's also the cosmic power of glinstone socery to consider as the Carian royals worship the moon and stars,the first flame is represented by the flame of the fell god and perhaps the many different types of fire represent the different aspects of the first flame or maybe the many ages of fire with different lords of cinder linking the flame,there are other aspects form the dark souls era seen with those that live in death and the ancient dragons,lastly demon souls isn't represented much because it was so long ago that nobody even knows it existed,it sort of like the Gobekli Teppe of the souls universe...
@Big_Dai Жыл бұрын
OMG!!! My mind is blooOooooOOoooooOOooown...
@ashenknight621 Жыл бұрын
To add to rabidductchman's comment, at the beginning of Elden Ring we awaken in a land covered in ash similar to the world state we see at the end of Dark Souls 3's second DLC
@RustBrand7776 ай бұрын
My only thing with the idea that Dark Souls came before Elden Ring is that the dragons in Elden Ring is very clearly are very influenced by the Erdtree. From golden fire to other such item descriptions we know that the Erdtree once favored the dragons. They had their own Elden lord and their own ‘god’ I think it’s more favorable that the dragons took over in a dark colorless world, built in the ashes of the world we left behind. The embers then taking fire and leading Dark Souls.
@gl.notalent Жыл бұрын
i made a connection between the different endings of ER and the various lords from DS1. Nito would be the cursemark of death or dung eaters ending, seeing as he brought death and disease to the world. The witch of Izaleth would be the frenzied flame ending. Gwyn would be the golden order ending, seeing as he ran his kingdom strong and true, like Godfrey from ER. The furtive pygmy would have to be the normal elden lord ending, seeing as he is the most boring lord whos kingdom really only shows up in dlc
@oscarcordero78116 ай бұрын
George R.R Martin Confirmed in a interview that elden ring was a Sequel to Darksouls 3
@liamcastro9896 Жыл бұрын
The way I look at it is Demons Souls is the start, then Dark Souls, then Bloodborn, Then Elden Ring. It's all held together because I believe the bloodborn universe is the painting at the end of Dark Souls 3
@SgtObvious1155 ай бұрын
Lmao the frenzied flame bois was wearing bull goat
@GG_13189 ай бұрын
the bad ending of demon souls has the world be covered in fog, dark souls starts covered in fog
@isaiahfisher233721 күн бұрын
The only connection that makes no sense is a connection to Sekiro, since Sekiro takes place in our world/Japan. It might be a fantasy fictional place in Japan, but it's still Japan, which implies all the rest of our world up until the 17th ish century. As for the rest, it's fun to speculate. Also I don't know why we have to take Miyazaki's word for it that the worlds are unconnected. For one, he could just be lying so people don't look too hard into it. For two, we really don't have to take the director's word for it even if he is telling the truth. The fun/point of these games is the community solving the mystery and trying to piece together the lore; it's never been about the author or the official canon. This is one of the few communities where we can honestly say the author's intent probably doesn't matter, as even the author might not be aware of all of the pieced-together lore of the games.
@fotiacruz3911 Жыл бұрын
I have a head canon that Marika is the main character of one or all of the souls games. Its said she came from another place, and was already godly so idk
@tr.evorbrown Жыл бұрын
Amazing video bro, cant wait for more
@deadlees1254 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to disagree with the 3rd part of the theory with demon souls since you DONT add destined death to the elden ring destined death is unleashed no matter what ending you go for you add the mending rune of the death prince contrary to what you might believe they are not the same the mending rune adds life within death while destined death is just the rune that allows death by natural causes and of course it would allow you to kill as another option so from my understanding with the rune of the death prince a human could die, and something like skeletons would be able to live even though I wouldn’t know what would cause a skeleton to be alive but that aside it should be dead in the golden order this would be heretical since the erdtree is supposed absorb the dead, but in this order this would be acceptable If you have any sort of information or ideas feel free to post them
@Vitor20XX Жыл бұрын
A Soul series crossover would be epic
@nobody4062 Жыл бұрын
fromsoft would probably say we're reading way too far into this and that elden ring is just a seperate universe or something.
@kingdomsoul8968 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered why a few of these games have some areas where alot of trees are in the background. As if another worlds are connected. Bloodborne in the hunters dream, dark souls in the ash lake and elden ring in the battle area of the elden beast
@user-qq3xl7ox3z7 ай бұрын
if i remember correctly in bloodborne there was no influence from the gods until they found the corpse of one down in one of the chalice dungeons which could be like some of the few dungeons we find throughout elden ring. it also stated that the ptheumarians (potentially the numen race) fled leaving some behind this could be because rani was hunting them down and one if not more could have been trapped and in hiding in the lands between.
@RIOSTHEROOSTER4 ай бұрын
Ranni’s ending doesn’t track with bloodborne…however what does track with bloodborne is the seedbed curse ending which technically curses all beings afflicting them with “omen” which most of those characters within Elden ring were not born with the grace of Gold…and shunned like the misbegotten. I don’t know about you….but those enemies feel a lot like ghouls, vampires, and goblins to me.
@christopherway25465 ай бұрын
The lands between has always sounded weird to me. I e always wondered if these aren’t all the same place just different times/parallel realities and The Lands Between is the lands between reality/time. Idk but could you imagine a game where you have to battle your way from Boleteria through Anor Londo, Yharnam, Ashina, and the Lands Between. One ashen tarnished Hoonter shinobi fighting the entire Miyazaki universe. That would be wild
@socialphobiak95843 ай бұрын
Of course Miyazaki denies it. If he confirmed it, it would be boring and nobody would come up with such theories anymore. He is clever
@GuyverLycan247 ай бұрын
Here is my two cents on this. For me Ranni's ending leads to none of the souls games, but instead leads to the ArmorCore series. After all, while all the gods and fantasies are gone, the last remaining visage Humanity sub-consciously remembers is a moonlight sword.
@darthmaul8278 Жыл бұрын
I think that the Elden Ring item description that talks about when dragons ruled the land was talking about how Placidusax was Elden Lord before the age of the Erdtree Godfrey is only first Elden Lord of the age of the Erdtree
@kontankarite Жыл бұрын
Age of stars is Armored Core.
@RecluseBootsy5 ай бұрын
This was the one theory i felt had any validity to it. And the multitude of Erdtrees during the fight with the Elden Beast just confirms it for me. Why else would there be hundreds, if not more, identical Erdtrees?
@thiccboicory99642 ай бұрын
Ya if you pick the moon ending it is definitely how the age of bloodborn started so much lore points to this in both games.
@alanx4121 Жыл бұрын
The stories are played out on our earth, because the ingame moons look the same as our moon.
@rainbowoncrack8948 Жыл бұрын
The tree in blight town could have been the erdtree in Elden ring. After all lyndel sewers do look a lot like blight town
@hesmycat5 ай бұрын
Firelink shrine will be in the DLC and i WILL shit my pants.
@james_ve Жыл бұрын
this was REALLY well made
@karimmatin486 Жыл бұрын
I think the timeline is DS1 - DS3 then Elden Ring and then Bloodborne. Ranni's ending could be the start of bloodborne, and it'd atleast make sense because technology in bloodborne seems way more advanced than any of the souls games. They already use guns and the setting seems way past the medieval era, hence why I think Bloodborne is the most recent based on the story's timeline.
@Yusa2525 күн бұрын
I hope they make a final game that explains everything or maybe a book
@jaysonderico Жыл бұрын
About time some KZfaqr talked about this. Had a friend of mine spin this theory in my head months ago and it made almost too much sense to ignore. Couple hits and misses, but the theory can be a well versed probability.
@rohncarver35859 ай бұрын
the people of Loran came before the pthumarians; they probably existed as the tarnished under marikas husband; but if the dungeons aesthetics are to be taken at face value they lived in a desert. the pthumarians probably came around a few hundred years into ranis travels afar during that thousand year time span. with a few hundred years after her return you'd end up with Yharnam and the rest of the bloodborne world at the height of their power pre burning of "Old" Yharnam.
@OneStarRating Жыл бұрын
The Fromsoft Saga is heavily inspired by The Eternal Champion series of books. You'll find some answers there. Patches is the key to all of this.
@jbark678 Жыл бұрын
I already tied Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, and Bloodborne in my head. I'm curious to see how you tie in Elden Ring.
@KingCrimson-rw4xb Жыл бұрын
The description on those “couple of dragon related items in ER” aren’t talking about DS1 it’s talking about how before the age of the Erdtree their was a Great Tree and the Erdtree was a plague of the Great Tree. During that time of the Great Tree dragons ruled and there “Elden Lord” was Plucidasax. But then the Plague in the Erdtree turned The Great Tree into the Erdtree and then Placidasax went into hiding and waited until the dragon god and the Great Tree came back. The age of the dragons and the Great tree was over. And then the elden ring came into existence with the Greater Will. This was the Erdtree’ ages god
@esperhunter7263 Жыл бұрын
Dark Souls is definitely before, not after Elden Ring. First it must be pointed out that the Seathe is considered the last of his kind(Everlasting Dragon) and yet even he is no true Everlasting dragon, he was born without the scales of immortality, and does not have legs. The dragon covenant Dragon is a secret survivor of the Everlasting Dragons but he has turned completely to stone and has no way restart the line of dragons. Otherwise the only thing we have left is wyverns in Dark Souls, so it doesn't make sense to think Elden Ring, which is very populated with true Dragons, came after DS. For the Sun Realm shield in elden ring, it is an extremely weak argument as well, as the word "sun" is all it has going for it, the depiction on the shield DOES NOT resemble Anor Londo. Anor Londo is a cathedral style city, the sun shield depicts a defensive fortification style castle that has zero resemblance of anything cathedral-like. They are very different architecture. Now, proof it is prior, Dark Souls opening lore states: "In the beginning, the world was unformed, shrouded by fog; homogeneous. Gray crags, archtrees, and everlasting dragons were the extent of that which existed there. This period was known as the Age of Ancients. But then, the Advent of Fire occurred. This created Disparity in the world: with it came heat and cold, life and death, and light and dark. From the dark, came humanoid creatures - Hollows. These creatures found souls near the First Flame..." We are shown the Age of Ancients had a world before a major event called the Advent of Fire. This world is described of things all that would exist after the Lord of Frenzy Flame ending almost verbatim. "Homogeneous" is a key word used, one that Hyetta tells us is exactly what the Frenzy Flame will do, "melt all life back into One again" The Ancient Dragons of ER survive the frenzy flame as well, becoming known as the Everlasting Dragons. ER refers to the dragons as the Ancients many times, and Dark Souls refers to the age prior to the Advent of Fire as the Age of Ancients. The Dark Souls dragon in Ash Lake even turns to stone in direct likeness of the Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones of ER. Finally, the cragtrees would be the remnants of the Erdtree's of ER, by no coincidence do we find that great hollow tree leading to Ash Lake is equally as large as the burnt Erdtree, surrounded by minor Erdtrees/cragtrees, literally recreating the entire Ash Lake experience. The ER frenzy flame ending we know all life will RETURN to the primordial crucible state with all becoming One again. The frenzy flame wants this as the three fingers trlls us through Hyetta, so we can safely agree the frenzy flame is tied/directly related to this original state of life before it branched out. Well if it branched out before, then it will happen again. The homogeneous state of life created melted together by the frenzy flame is naturally going to become un-homogeneous like it did the first time in the Crucible era, thus painting a picture of life starting from a singular consolidated thing by fire. Lastly it is quite telling the the Witch of Izaleth attempts to duplicate the original flame of life and that copied flame is called "Flame of Chaos" as we know the Frenzy Flame followers state many times that they associate Chaos with the Frenzy Flame. So we then arrive at the Dark Souls 1 era, where Dragons and trees the only survivors of a bleak darkened world, now contend with a new life. I am confident theres more that I missed but this is already long enough. Thanks for reading.
@GlawiousAldredMarci Жыл бұрын
3:30 already an issue, the age before fire was the age of ancients where you should see the fogged world and the endless trees. The world of ER looks nothing like that lol
@Kamishi845 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this theory only works if you focus more on connecting themes and concepts than actual lore.
@scarjau9356 Жыл бұрын
I always had this hunch that all games could be connected after checking a video on the lore of ER. It is said that Godfrey was cast/sent away with his army/descendants to other realms by Marika only to return once they were "finished" or something like that which led me to believe perhaps Demons' Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne and Sekiro are about a "Tarnished" experiencing and trying to conquer this other realms. I dunno man we need answers and Miyazaki ain't giving the whole picture. Out of these 3 theories the one connecting ER to DarkSouls is the most solid to me.
@kosatk120 Жыл бұрын
Miyazaki himself said that these games do not share universe. Cool theory thou.
@Parcs Жыл бұрын
i've played hundreds of hours of elden ring on the ps5, and recently started playing ds3 on my laptop, and have discovered a lot of the enemies from elden ring, such as the gecko fucker things, also existed back in ds3, and even use the same animations as in elden ring.
@emeraldnoir7099 Жыл бұрын
What if the Great Hollow tree in DS1 IS the wrecked ErdTree? which would make the Ashen lake... basically what's left of the Lands Between.
@pine285 Жыл бұрын
I thought that the games were connected immediately when i heard "from beyond the fog" in the games trailer, except not that the endings influenced the other games, but that they were connected in some way. mainly that they waged war across the fog, as in they took place in battling againsed the various eras throughout the darksouls games, more as they co existed outside of time, which seems to be a common concept through out the franchise, kind of reinforced by the fact that we never see a lot of the major areas for happenings that lead up to the collapse of these worlds, which we the player are in. kind of like londor in ds3, with no physical areas representing it even with the lands converging, in the main game or the dlc. A contradiction to the theroy that ranni would have influence over the world of bloodborn, causing its happenings is the theroy that bloodborn takes place inside a painting, similar to the painted world; Particularly the one that gets painted with the blood of the darksoul after defeating gael. Another random theroy is that the painted world is rotting away, similarly to the scarlet rot in eldenring, but there are some lore reasons that explain the rot, as in something besides a outer god of rot such as found in eldenring. idk im just kinda rambling.
@NievesTheWitch Жыл бұрын
Awesome video your voice in the intro gave me chills, definitely subscribing!
@penlordnt Жыл бұрын
While the theory probably ain't true, it's a very fun theory! I'm also impressed by how much detail they put into the Dark Souls connection. Frenzied Flame would at first seem like, "Oh yeah, fire and Dark Souls has fire and that's it" but they actually made it make sense.
@RollMeAFat1 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s possible as well that sekiro takes place in the land of reeds mentioned as the samurais homeland, likely in the future
@etermemel Жыл бұрын
The elden ring map does kinda resemble the ringed city mountain range if you think about it and the city would be in the middle
@VERDICTInsanity Жыл бұрын
Very cool video and well put together, these theories are so cool to me! I love that these games could all be connected.
@nemesistim371 Жыл бұрын
Age of duskborn: demon souls Frenzied flame: dark soul Age of star: bloodborne Blessing of despair: sekiro
@snowwolf0295 Жыл бұрын
dark souls 2 references a spirit tree and a quella i know this is a thing now being mentioned because of the spirit tree shield from ds2 and ds2 always felt a bit off from the other dark souls games things betwixt the starting point kinda reminds me of the haligtree in some weird way