So, the Born arrives with a fantastic chassis - but no app, no nav and limited connectivity out of the box. Which matters more to you?
@acde9355 Жыл бұрын
No app and limited connectivity could be the main problem. But I believe they will solve these problems as soon as possible.
@willsmyth639 Жыл бұрын
@@DB-DB-DB-DB it’s a splinter group from seat who’s been here in the uk for over 70 years also it’s using all (vag vw/Audi group product, the early Cupra headlights had seat writing in them as they were from a seat car
@danielhockin6705 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear it’s dynamically sorted and most importantly fun! Negs for me are no V2L and no frunk. Great review. Thanks. 😊
@mondotv4216 Жыл бұрын
Did I hear you right when you said there's no app and it's not likely they can retrofit it? The whole point of OTA updates is connectivity with the car. My BYD Atto 3 didn't come with an app, navigation or Apple Car Play and Android Auto. But no big deal - it has all those things now. Come on, if a relatively unknown Chinese manufacturer (although it's a huge company) can do it why the hell can't VAG with all their resources? It's almost like they don't want their cars to get better without buying a new one...
@geoffreyjones6019 Жыл бұрын
@@mondotv4216 bit strange if so, definitely has an app in the U.K., not sure why it wouldn’t in Australia.
@austinadams2820 Жыл бұрын
Tom, you are so kind. I'm taking delivery of my Cupra Born in a few weeks' time so I am defiitely a fan. I have just got rid of my Ioniq-5. Why? The ridiculously huge Ioniq-5 turning circle, making parking in an apartment parking lot a nightmare. No one ever seems to mention turning circle. The Cupra Born is great in that regard. You also don't mention that the Cupra does not have seat memory or lane keeping.
@selgeaus Жыл бұрын
Good to see more non-SUV EVs being added
@chasingcars Жыл бұрын
Yes it is.
@mondotv4216 Жыл бұрын
It's not the wheelbase that dictates no frunk. It's the whole MEB platform that doesn't support a frunk.
@bryanjuni706 Жыл бұрын
I can tell you really like this car! haha. Tone and pace of your talking was every so slightly on the excited side! Very well presented! Genuine in nature. Love love love your reviews! :)
@chasingcars Жыл бұрын
I like cars that are entertaining to drive. I hope I made the upsides and downsides clear.
@bryanjuni706 Жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars You did! I went into this review coughing at the price when you first mentioned it at the outset. Then after hearing your views on the interior and exterior, and in particular the pros of driving ability, i was like 'yeah, you know what, i can see myself spending that money on that car!'. I do like your honesty about its handling both pros and cons. Yes it is part of the Volkswagen group, however do you feel it is a branch that you would invest in in Australia for the long term/ have you heard any negatives in terms of aftermarket support? Or am I way off point here? Thanks again! awesome review!
@marcpacey Жыл бұрын
Great informative review Tom. Very clear that you’ve become a fan of the Cupra brand - which is a very good thing .
@narvuntien Жыл бұрын
I don't think its a bad car I think that all those niggles add up when combined with the price. I think it will be great in a few years when they fix all the annoying stuff. VW is getting there but they are still in the early stages working through the teething problems. The improvements in the Tavascan and ID7 show that they can do it. MG4 is still the big problem for this car, it wont have the quality that VW but it also wont have the same price. While otherwise providing similar specs. I think RWD EV Hatchbacks are just going to be fun in general. I have heard they might bring a smaller battery version and therefore a lower priced vechical that should be able to compete closer to the MG4 though.
@whatthe6532 Жыл бұрын
MG4. Doesn’t have the quality of a VW. As a low mileage Golf 7 owner that’s a big win to MG. Water leaks, new DSG clutch, new fuel pump, suspension is groaning. It’s a disaster.
@puttajay Жыл бұрын
Quality of vw? Are you kidding the latest penny pinching models across the VAG to pay for diesel gate they make some of the cheapest and nastiest materials and awful build quality especially across the electric models the ids The multimedia system is awful and laggy and constantly crashes so don’t think the mg4 is competing it’s probably beating it easily
@geoffreyjones6019 Жыл бұрын
@@puttajay The Cupra’s better built than the equivalent Volkswagen (the ID3), despite their being constructed in the same factory, and definitely better built than the MG4, I’ve been in them both, though the latter is a great car and £10,000 cheaper in the U.K.!
@theairstig9164 Жыл бұрын
@@geoffreyjones6019 same factory but it’s a different RHD assembly line
@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi Жыл бұрын
You can modulate regen simply with the brake pedal.
@premacy2003 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for video. What chemistry is the batter?
@TassieEV Жыл бұрын
Love the wind turbines. So as Cupra has forgotten about Tasmania, well done...not, guess you order it pretending to be in Victoria then bring it across to Tasmania and swap rego out from Taxing Dan's State to Tas Rego. Tell Cupra they need to deliver to ALL states and territories. Waiting on the Tavascan personally.
@andrewyork8208 Жыл бұрын
The 1 year service schedule is a surprise in the UK its 2 years at any mileage - sounds like a deal has been done to keep the servicing income ! Maybe a new cabin filter would be needed in a dusty area but that would cost $20.
@paulpavlou92948 ай бұрын
I have a full spect Born and love the way it drives. I was very disappointed that we didn’t get the built in satellite navigation system along with all the added features like heads-up display with augmented reality and associated safety features that our northern hemisphere and American countries get. I would have liked to have been able to order the twin motor versions as well. The only other grips are that there is no over the air software updates or wireless connectivity or apps. It’s an electric car for god sake - it’s meant to packed with technology, but isn’t. So it’s a bit like driving my 1974 VW Superbug, eye catching seat of your pants driving and I love both these cars.
@cameron_bracken Жыл бұрын
Is it just me....or have i missed something really important that reviewers used to put in their EV reviews.....BATTERY CHEMISTRY.....its crucial info guys....come on.....if this has a Lithium-Ion, then its a big consideration, in that you only really have 60% of recomended usable battery. Its like a 10 second comment you guys can add in, and really points out an important sale point of difference....apologies for being Grumpy, as i really love Chasing Car reviews
@NDHobart6 ай бұрын
Hi Tom. I'm a little late to the party with this vid, but am looking at an MG4 vs Cupra Born for a purchase in the coming months. Sounds like the Cupra would be the pick, but would be keen to know your thoughts?
@Tesla_NZ Жыл бұрын
Such a small car weights even more then a model Y. Why vw why?
@spidermania5726 Жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, random question but what brand is your jacket? :)
@bshah4831 Жыл бұрын
Great comprehensive review. Keen to hear about the variant with DCC and Michelin EV tyres.
@huckietam6746 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Nice car as well. Since you mentioned EV tyres, can you actual do a educational clip on how EV tyres are different ? And what if I put on a normal car tyres on a definately heavier EVs ? Thanks.
@gbw28 Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion, I would be interested to know as well.
@andrewiverach659 Жыл бұрын
It looks neat and tight. Also doesn’t look like a science project. I can see alot of roof racks carrying pods with space savers inside on EVs in Oz.
@benrussell917 Жыл бұрын
What is road on the Western spire of the ACT of which you speak? I'm a Canberra resident and am very disappointed I haven't found it yet!
@robertmerkel8247 Жыл бұрын
Lots of unfavourable feedback in comments! For what it's worth, By all reports the Atto 3 is in no way a driver's car, and doesn't have the highway range of the Australian-spec Cupra. The MG4, while very well reviewed in the UK, doesn't have the range of the Cupra. I suspect the 77Kwh version, which is supposed to be on the way, will edge up pretty close to the Born on price. I'm also curious as to how it will ride and handle on Australian roads. As usual, it's hard to beat Tesla in rational considerations of EV's, but: The Born has better highway range than a base Model 3. The Born is cheaper than a base Model 3. It sounds like the ride/handling compromise of the Born is better than the 3. Yes, there are clearly some issues (annoying capacitative buttons, lack of the app etc etc) but this things sounds like it gets the fundamental right, doesn't have a lot of compromises compared to a petrol vehicle, and isn't that much higher in price than say, a Cupra Leon VZ, which is very similar in size, interior trim, and warm hatch intent.
@jaredscott4829 Жыл бұрын
The 77kWh Born is sub 300km of range at 120km/h, a base Model 3 is actually superior.
@user-on4rs5oj4y Жыл бұрын
As an owner I can say the Born easily meets its 500km claim. I moved from a golf r and this thing feels fast compared to that when zipping around the city (no gearbox to wind up). It can't meet it on handling due to weight but it is close and that is saying something.
@MaxFromSydney1 Жыл бұрын
@Tom, You are spot on about the lack of a spare wheel on EVs. Do most buyers just not care about this?
@acde9355 Жыл бұрын
EVs are much more sensitive about weight. I would rather manufacturers put the spare tyre as optional than standard.
@bradleybprentice1497 Жыл бұрын
I am now a Cupra fanboy. Thanks to Chasing Cars. Having just relocated back to Australia I am keen to get one ordered. Have not decided which one yet.
@MaxFromSydney1 Жыл бұрын
@Tom, I’ve never sat in one of these, but in your video, the A-pillars look like a bit of a mess. How is front quarter visibility when cornering?
@killertaxi100 Жыл бұрын
Any news when VW will start replacing that awful infotainment interface?
@acde9355 Жыл бұрын
This infotainment system can be updated via the OTA system as long as it connects to the internet. This already happened in Europe and North America. It takes time to happen in Australia but they will definitely come.
@killertaxi100 Жыл бұрын
I meant when they will go back to offering physical buttons, replacing the awful capacitive touch controls?
@RARay11 Жыл бұрын
Not sure why cars are always more expensive in Perth
@blazedkermit3338 Жыл бұрын
Cars are offloaded from the Eastern Seaboard and driven to WA?
@RARay11 Жыл бұрын
@@blazedkermit3338 Probably
@acde9355 Жыл бұрын
Fewer people mean more labour costs, I guess.
@paulhumphreys8500 Жыл бұрын
All down to the state government, WA has the highest stamp duty rate and also does not offer any EV incentives…..
@RARay11 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhumphreys8500 Totally agree. I have seen this while using price calculator. WA taxation is highest in the country. Sometimes the price difference is quite high.
@jimmyjamesred Жыл бұрын
Did they change the alcantara from blue to grey? We didn’t order the interior pack as the blue interior wasn’t our taste. Cupra still telling me the grey offered overseas isn’t here? But the press car has grey??
@chasingcars Жыл бұрын
I think it's actually blue, but in the dim light we had for filming it looked grey to me at the time.
@dingbatt Жыл бұрын
People need to realise it’s not a $65K ICE car. It’s the equivalent quality of a $35K car with a $30K battery fitted. That $30K buys a lot of petrol! It’s almost like the VW group are trying, but not very hard, to push into the EV space. A car that is a foot shorter than a Tesla Model 3, but weighs 250kg more? Sure, the battery is bigger by 30% but you get a 10% better WLTP range? And I’m sure it’s a NCA battery so only charged to 80% on a regular basis. EVs are still primarily urban vehicles and I really liked the idea of the Born because I find the Model 3 just too big in some urban environments. The “offline” nature of VW’s connectivity in Australia and NZ is pathetic. Even BYD does it better.
@James-mw7zv Жыл бұрын
Why so expensive? I will go with Tesla no comparison.
@chasingcars Жыл бұрын
It’s several thousand dollars cheaper than the cheapest Tesla right now ?
@TheSpyNZ Жыл бұрын
MG4 & BYD Atto 3 are a better complete package IMO for a family SUV with good quality interior and boot space. IMO if an EV can do between 350KM to 400KM, then I would rather opt for that providing it's a good quality family SUV or Sedan rather than live with a compromise just because it can do 450KM in range.
@JoshuaMcTackett Жыл бұрын
Spoken like someone who actually understands how living with an EV goes. I've had my Tesla M3 RWD with 435km range since January and my wife has an Atto 3 standard range on order. I can confidently say without a shadow of doubt, I can't imagine any reason I would ever need to buy a long range EV. They're a waste of battery weight IMO. (But I would like the AWD and bit of extra speed with the more upscale Tesla😂)
@OlyMar83 Жыл бұрын
What are they exactly charging for with their service costs? It’s an ev. How can Tesla charge less?
@therealjeffg Жыл бұрын
No pricing for Tassie Tom?
@acde9355 Жыл бұрын
The EV is expensive for sure, but think about the fuel cost you will save and the impressively cheap maintenance cost (3-year plan for just $999, which is as cheap as a Mazda 3 as I just paid $331 for the service), and the smooth driving performance in the urban road that given by the nature of the EV. I believe that people would love this car.
@vandur2322 Жыл бұрын
If you give me $30,000 now I will give you a $100 fuel voucher every week for the ten years you would keep a car. Does that sound good?
@JJ-gl3qr Жыл бұрын
I’d take a used Tesla 3 usuly in the range of 45k
@theairstig9164 Жыл бұрын
You’ll be buying one used at that price
@scollyutube Жыл бұрын
The best secret weapon would be these costing the same as an ICE equivalent class car. Otherwise why bother.
@larryjenkinson5525 Жыл бұрын
🇦🇺 Not impressed - overpriced, underpowered, basic tech. Will wait to see what MG offers when/if they bring the MG4 twin motor to Australia.
@Newie-sb6lf Жыл бұрын
Only a 4 seater is a NO for most people as well!
@theairstig9164 Жыл бұрын
That is a gamble
@user-on4rs5oj4y Жыл бұрын
I have a golf R, but this Cupra "feels" faster, such is the instant shove.
@Druze_Tito Жыл бұрын
I have one question for all EV car manufacturers - what are they thinking with the pricing? 50K for a Golf sized vehicle? Give me a break. It's no replacement for any ICE car. And electric cars are NOT premium, not yet. They may never become.
@TheSpyNZ Жыл бұрын
You have never sat inside BMW iX, iX1, i7, iX3, Mercedes EQB, EQS, EQC or Volvo XC40 Recharge P8 series EV's then.
@chasingcars Жыл бұрын
Eh? The Golf GTI has been more than $50K for some time now
@Druze_Tito Жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars I did not talk about the GTI. I simply referred to Golf. Ordinary shmo don't need a GTI. The electric cars are much simpler to manufacture and the only price increasing factor are the batteries, compared to ICE. The ICE has much more complex composition and yet they are cheaper. I think the industry is wasting everyone's time and instead they should focus on building a more weight-efficient batteries. The current EV cars battery technology is expensive and has really poor performance. They are practically selling useless expensive cars. Useless - because there are not as many charging stations as there are petrol/gas stations. So you may end up in the middle of nowhere if you start a trip with an EV without making a trip plan.
@Druze_Tito Жыл бұрын
@@TheSpyNZ I have sat inside and driven a Tesla S P100D. Does that suffice?
@TheSpyNZ Жыл бұрын
@@Druze_Tito lol Tesla's are barren garbage inside and outside so no it does not suffice. BYD Atto 3 has better interior than Model S P100D
@tonyhove981 Жыл бұрын
Tom you're really speaking to the hot hatch brigade... Doubt they will be switching over to electric any time soon esp at that price give the alternatives. It's still to be proven whether decision to offer hot hatch over SUV electric car is a good idea
@whatthe6532 Жыл бұрын
SUV electric for me.
@jestronixhanderson9898 Жыл бұрын
My modified 2014 leaf is doing a 0-100 in 6 , this needed to be low 5s min
@rjbiker66 Жыл бұрын
The 0-100 time is about the same as the tesla 3 standard range
@jestronixhanderson9898 Жыл бұрын
@@rjbiker66 - yeh i test drove one and thought no use same speed and no loan needed, i go out of town by car 3 times a year, ill just hire a car for those events. The leaf is actually more nimble, i have wide tyres etc, not carrying around 300kg of extra weight, dont get me wrong give me a tesla and ill take it. But i just wont pay that money for what will be a cheap car in a few years. All these EVs will be dirt cheap as 500wh/kg batteries land in a few years.
@MatthewBayard Жыл бұрын
Massive miss...No Travel Assist - the VW Group’s semi-autonomous highway cruising assistant - as well as wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.
@theairstig9164 Жыл бұрын
Price over features. Sometimes we get the hero we need not the one we asked for
@MatthewBayard Жыл бұрын
@@theairstig9164 it's not that cheap
@brendanmtaylor Жыл бұрын
Way too many compromises- it’s not ready for launch.
@jeffjohnson3750 Жыл бұрын
Can the VW Group just make this an Audi and bring it to the US? I hate that we're forced to buy SUVs here.
@Schaneification9 ай бұрын
LOL Born is a ID3 ... VW said we can rebrand The ID3 that sucks to a Cupra Born and People will not Know !
@650thunderbird Жыл бұрын
When will we see an EV that the regional proles can afford? My guess is at least 10 years. 👍🏻👍🏻
@Tesla_NZ Жыл бұрын
60k premium euro car with drum brakes in 2023? Am I reading something wrong?
@theairstig9164 Жыл бұрын
Regen takes care of the feel. If you want a drivers car buy something else
@jaredscott4829 Жыл бұрын
Nearly 2000k, what a pig. How is this so heavy?
@theairstig9164 Жыл бұрын
The battery in this and the ID.4 is stupidly heavy. Take that out and it’s a 1000kg car
@amon51243 ай бұрын
Who buys these cars ??? Driving is certainly one good aspect but there are so many other aspect, too. It is not a go-cart - it is a car in this day and age and $60000+ ??? I think we should start judging European and American brands with a bit more criticism.
@-PORK-CHOP- Жыл бұрын
Looks nice, But I think I would wait until they can sort out the bugs before committing, seems like a beta model.
@allanchapman6250 Жыл бұрын
How much are they paying you
@chasingcars Жыл бұрын
By "they" I assume you mean Budget Direct, which pays my salary - it's well-known around here that our reviews are entirely independent of car manufacturer advertising dollars, Allan.
@adrianwilliamson6861 Жыл бұрын
Do Cupra pay you guys?
@egaskrad9 ай бұрын
Too much information in one video. Put everything down in a table on a webpage.
@Mexxx65 Жыл бұрын
65K Way overpriced for what it offers ( a cheap alternative to a VW Vag product). EV cars in Aus HAVE to be priced same as outgoing ICE equivalent models.
@acde9355 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the cost saving from maintenance and fuel.
LOL, it looks nice but rest is downhill. And depressing for rest of VW cousins to come.
@Spade080 Жыл бұрын
Seems overpriced when the only thing it seems to have over the competition is a subjective better ride? With everything else trailing Tesla. I own a Tesla but I would buy an Atto 3 over this.
@robertmerkel4706 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure I would - the Atto 3 is a good car and a bit roomier in the back, but has less range, slower charging, and multiple reviewers have made clear that the Atto 3 has a cushy ride but doesn’t handle particularly well. More variety is good!
@geoffreyjones6019 Жыл бұрын
@@robertmerkel4706 the Born is ridiculously good fun to drive.
@MarksElectricLife Жыл бұрын
Seems like a cheap, nasty EV with a high price tag.