If a child is questioning their gender identity, that should be kept private, not something to put out into the world. Just imagine being confused about your gender only to have your parents, without your consent, post about it. Not everything a child does has to be put out on the internet. They're exploiting their kid and it's just wrong.

The reason that the "internet has changed" is because unlike before, people are AWARE of the damage being done to children growing up in front of the cameras. People have watched children be exploited and it isn't okay anymore.

A lot of the concern wasn't even about the fact that their child wants to change their gender identity, it was the fact that their videos following that announcement were exploiting their child's decision , my "trans daughter this " and "my trans daughter that"

Hear me out: If you're a parent DON'T post anything about your children online. Because the majority of the world is sick. Thank you for listen to my ted talk.

I feel like they shared Edie’s story way too early and they should have let it be private until Edie is ready to share it on their own

“The Internet is not the same anymore-” Funny how Jonathan and other family vloggers only say that now when the people on the Internet have finally opened their eyes to the exploitation of their children taking place. 🤔

I hate when people say “the internet isn’t what it used to be”.. to me that just means ‘I can’t get away with the things I used to and now people want to hold me accountable’. I used to watch Anna and Jonathan a lot back in the day before I realised how exploitive family vlogging was. They couldn’t ever just film themselves because they clearly didn’t have a happy functioning marriage and needed to center the vlogs around the kids. I hope they stay offline. I have no idea what they will do now for money? Neither of them have worked a “real job” for over a decade!

Family channels NEED TO BE STOPPED. When the hell is KZfaq going to step in????

They are awful for exploiting their children, they are a million times worse for exploiting their (potentially) trans child. As a trans person I rarely share that in my personal life, it is an extremely personal topic that brings up extremely personal questions. At the very least, every person with internet can find out their child's dead name, that alone can be traumatizing.

So…. I wonder when KZfaq is finally gonna crack down on family channels and make stricter rules for them. Family Channels are seriously messed up for recording children’s embarrassing and inappropriate moments when the children are too young to consent. These kids are gonna grow up being so traumatized and I genuinely worry for their safety and mental health.

As a trans person who luckily grew up in a very accepting community and home I am still cautious of who I tell i am trans or not. It is still really dangerous to be out as a trans person especially a trans women. I support her no matter what but it is just a safety thing as they have now exposed her to a lot of danger and when she gets older bullying. I hope this doesn't happen and I support anyone who decides to share or come out with the world publicly but most of them are all adults and know the dangers well. Edie does not as she is far too young to know the harm that can come with being trans. I am in full support of being yourself but Jonathan and Anna, Jonathan especially are aware of the risk this is. Not from a business standpoint but a safety. Also questioning is a massive process that changes all the time and there is nothing wrong with it. I just hope Edie will be safe as she grows.

I used to watch them all the time. It's really sad to see how they have changed throughout the years.

So it seems we're in the middle of the family channel takedown season 🧐

If the child is too young to accept the terms and services of these platforms they shouldn’t be allowed to show them

If people ever wonder where predators go, no doubt they watch family channels. It should be illegal to post about your minors like this. they have no way of understanding the danger that could happen.

I am SO GLAD more people are realizing how damaging these family channels can be for kids. I really respect what Jessica Kellgren-Fozard and Claudia are doing with their son. They don’t show his face at all and I don’t think they intend to until he can firmly consent to it, if he ever wanted to. Its about respecting your kids and looking our for their safety, above your own wants/ ideals

I used to watch them. I stopped watching when their second eldest was born. I stopped watching because the audience was telling johnathan about sketchy websites using pictures of their kids for….questionable….reasons. They are known for this kind of behavior.

I’ll be 100% honest. I’ve never understood family channels. Like, it’s creepy that you’re getting emotionally connected to children you don’t know. Like, I understand posting videos about mom life/family life/dad life/etc, but not having the kids in it, just talking about things you’ve learned, tips and tricks, etc. But filming your kids and that being your content, and not like, “once in awhile they’re in the video, but it might not even be the full video” or even just blurring their face I can understand then. But otherwise? It’s a yikes on trikes for me fam

As a trans person, I think that their child should be able to come out on THEIR terms. Ik in high school when I first realized I was trans it took me a while to actually be comfortable with who I was even tho I was "out." Also the idea that they are not putting "embarrassing" moments online is not possible if you are filming your children consistently for an audience. It is one thing to post a picture of your kids but its another thing to consistently make vlogs centered around them and make them the center of your content.

At 7 I didn’t even know the difference hardly between boy and girl. I definitely didn’t know what trans was. I think they should wait til she’s older to start publicly sharing this stuff. What if she changes her mind ya know? Also I’m part of the lgbtq community, so this isn’t hate.

I remember watching Stacy Dooley's TV show (called "Stacy Dooley Sleeps Over") that featured this family. I just remember watching it and not understanding how they didn't think that any of their actions could possibly put their children and their futures in danger.

“the internet isn’t the same anymore”, oh sorry we stopped tolerating creepy internet behavior, my b 🤣🤣🤡

THANK GOD YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS! I literally hate that they’re exposing their children like this. Who knows how this child will feel in a few years. Children are BRUTAL IRL and this exposes the child to the whole world.

As a trans person, I think it's great that they're supporting their child in this! However, it still shouldn't be online. No child should be used for content regardless of any minority they may be a part of..

It drives me CRAZY that they say they get hate about their child when that is not it at all. It should be the child’s story to tell and not on the internet!

If a kid is not old enough to consent to being on a KZfaq video then it is definitely NOT old enough to know what being transgender means! This is absolutely ridiculous.

Why are people still watching family channels?

oh my GOD thank you for talking about this. this has been going on for SO many years and i’ve been waiting coverage on this 🥺

I dont think it matters wat Edie wants to identify as and that identity could change and thats okay I think as long as the children are happy then its whatever because who cares wat another persons identity is???????? I dont support child family channels coz I think its really exploitive but I think just letting a kid exploir their identity is fine

i wrote my final paper in English Comp 2 on this subject. specifically talking about the 2019 CBS doc they made on kidfluencers and talking about the Jordan Cheyenne incident! thanks for bringing awareness to this subject, you’re completely right. the kids simply cannot understand the ramifications and therefore cannot consent.

Okay… I get that they want to do the best for their children but just because a child that is (7!!) years old wants to transition into a different gender doesn’t mean they need to go all the way😅… They should have given her/him time at least time until she/he is near 18 years old and ready to make a real decision

I cant believe you didn't mention the bizarre cruel ways they discipline their children. Look into that. Its crazy

I wish people would let their kids be kids....

The father is ✋✨projecting✨🤚

I think that a child has the right to question their gender identity, but they have the right to do it privately with the support of the parents. Not everything should be online. Also the choice of this parents expose the child to a ton of transphobic hate.

I agree. By opening by declaring that the child is trans, they're not giving them an opportunity to change their minds as they grow older. I hope y'all understand that I'm not saying young people can't be trans. I'm saying that they need to be prepared to decide if they're ready to accept their new identity. Being fully tans is a commitment that requires a lot of time, money, and effort. And it must be treated as such. It's very possible for someone to be young and identify as trans. I saw it in a high school classmate myself. She was committed to the transition even though she was getting bullied to hell. But my issue is that some young people don't understand this expensive commitment. They haven't explored parts of themselves to commit to being a trans person. God forbid, she decides to de-transition wasting resources and even surgeries that should have gone to those who are serious about changing genders. Young people need to experiment and explore before committing to something they're not ready for. Allow her to wear whatever she wants and experiment with different identities so when she's a little older, she can commit to changing herself and being proud of that new identity. Simply, she needs freedom and options. Recording her puts expectations to be a certain way that she didn't consent to. Simply, changing your identity shouldn't be seen as changing your outfit. It is a process that deserves care, money, and work. Trans people deserve to know all the options available and be prepared for the unfairness of the world before committing to it. I don't want her to de-transition when she's 21 and be mad at her parents and other trans people because she wasn't ready.

I have never heard of this family before this video btw. The fact they deleted all their videos and could have been like "yeah this is for the kids we've learned from our mistakes" but they just said it was because people were judging them too much *sigh*.

They don’t post anything that could be embarrassing to their children?!! What is further down the line Edie decides they want to be a boy again?! I understand gender identity but I also understand sometimes kids do what they get positive attention for and if they are getting positive attention and praise every time they dress up as a girl then there is a slight possibility that they are just going along for the ride. I’ve known a few young boys that loved pink and purple as 4,5,6 year olds but now in their 20’s are completely straight young men. And if Edie decides to move forward as a woman in the future their journey might not be something they want online for everyone to know. Look at Nikki Tutorials she didn’t come out until she was forced. Maybe she wanted to do it her own way but because of the internet she was forced. These people are gross

Spilly, GIIIRRRLLL lemme just say, I RESPECR UR HUSTLE. Like daaanggg, having to stay on top of news, record AND edit! SHEEESHH and upload it ASAP. Girl I need ur discipline/ motivation. Fr fr💖💖💖🫡✨

i personally think it’s not as black and white as some comments make it out to be. not showing her anymore or acknowledging her as a girl could convey a wrong message to her and young viewers as well. the question of consent of the children is always critical topic with family channels, i don’t think with this topic in particular it should be brought up more, i think it should be talked about more in general. normalizing exploring gender is actually quite a good thing and healthy way to go about it. i’m trying to apply my psychological expert experience to this and am feeling they either could’ve ended their whole channel there or show her the way they did and those were the only two options that wouldn’t have invalidated her experience.

if you’re using your children for your necessary income you shouldn’t make videos. that’s the biggest issue with family channels. a CHLLD shouldn’t have to have that on their shoulders ever.

I have been their subscriber since forever and never thought I would see their name on a drama channel video.

I’m so happy this family is finally being exposed. This whole situation on Edie is so wrong. Jonathan’s TikTok’s are disgusting. I suspect he took the channel down because the authorities were involved. He’s vicariously living through Edie. Anna is not innocent.

The internet has always been hostile but now that platforms have grown people are able to speak about things they find offense or calling people out for their behavior.

I’m so glad calling out family channels are starting to happen.

I'm so thankful that I was full grown before social media became a thing.

They’re not sorry about exploiting their kids and what goes on in their lives; they’re just sorry they got caught and now they have to answer to the internet. THAT’S what they don’t like.

I think those that operate family channels need to start being proactive and realize that this community is going downhill quickly as viewers are simply just finding fault with their type of content. So if they want to continue making money on KZfaq, they need to shift their content like now, before people just stop watching altogether

No amount of money can give your children their privacy and dignity back after you sell it.

Repeat after me your child should not be a source of income 👏

"You have to watch what you say" means "I can't be creepy and get away with it anymore"

Can we stop KZfaqrs using the term, documentary, it isn't a documentary, it's a cry fest of excuses and no accountability, calling it that is just rude and disrespectful to real documentary

people have been saying that Johnathan is beyond creepy for yeeeears. there’s so many forums and threads on them going back to their early days.

Oooh, I’ve never seen these people before 😐

He put some his videos back up on the page.

I used to watch a lot of their vids; but I think the same as a lot of people - too much footage of the children in a shower / bath without clothes on, some footage of some of the kids crying too. They're going to go to high school. college and work one day and peers and work colleagues will have watched these videos!

I used to watch them, and I remember there was a time when they didn’t show Emilia and Eduardo, and people in the comments were mad because of that, and at that time they said that it was because they were being respectful to their kids. But idk what happened, that they decided to show their kids in an intrusive way.

Thank you for covering this!

The way they twist things in their OWN minds to justify, what they do is next level. The plain truth is MONEY. And FYI to them, the internet is not different...THEY ARE. Hello.

Really wish they would just leave social media for good. Awful ppl.

Wow...I forgot I even used to watch these people and that they existed.

i know the dad challenge pod doesn’t have a great reputation or much credibility, but i will say it’s never a bad thing to expose family channels like this.

Ugh that should not have been put online.

They still have videos up though. I’m confused did they reactivate? I just checked and they posted 3 min ago

Obviously the kid is still figuring out who he/she is. In a video eduardo was saying i don’t like to be a a girl as he was disgusted when he learned that girl have babies. Then in another video she as said she don’t like to be a boy as boys have facial hairs. Its clear she is too young to understand genders, likes and want. May be she just like to dress up. Its the dad who is forcing or imposing his views on that kid. Poor kid she will need lots of therapy because of the dad blasting his privacy online.

ANOTHER ONE?? DANG OMG 💀

Oh wow they still exist 😳 I totally forgot about them haha

I seriously cannot believe I ever watched them.

The things people do to “stay relevant” exploding their kids this is terrible!

Omg never thought I'd see the day

I just sat down and you were on time. 🥰

Bruh I can't even imagine how I would have felt if my parents announced me being trans to the world. That's for me to do later on. Not you

These people are really creepy and I genuinely feel so sorry for their children.

All of their videos are back up on their channel

I worry about the dad something is off with him in the last years.

do aspyn ovard next

Honestly, they need to look into Jazz from "I am Jazz" and see what happened to her with documenting her transition. I think it is great they are supporting Edie on her journey but I think Documenting it could cause more harm than good to her mentally.

I thought that the reason they started talking about Edie (I’m not sure how she spells it) was so she didn’t have to hide who she was on camera. But I still feel while she shouldn’t have to hide, her journey is her own and shouldn’t be on the internet for all to watch. She’s too young to understand the ramifications of her life being put in the internet. I used to watch them but slowly lost interest around the time they’re youngest turned 1.

I’m gay but I’m so glad my parents didn’t ask me “Do you want to be a girl?“ When I was younger because I probably would’ve said yes then forced to become trans

I would LOVE to know J's reasoning for putting some of the most controversial videos back up. Seems like he's gone manic.

Finally! I was waiting for someone to post about this because it’s just so messed up

Please do a video on the Tinx stuff!

These people are hypocrites and jump in bandwagon of what ever is trending. They should not have put they sons / daughter trans journey on line. Shame on them

I’ve literally never heard of them

I’m genuinely upset that they deleted their videos bc I love watching OG KZfaqrs old vlogs 😩😭😭😭

I remember when they were friends with Zoella shown in their vlogs/ group friends event when I was an avid Zoey viewer back then. I never thought anything of it because of how young I was then. I grew with Zoella on KZfaq. Until much older I saw them for problematic.

Holy fuck i completely forgot they existed!!!! I used to watch them SO long ago. Insane that this is happening

It's weird to me that they did an interview and then privatized everything after it if I'm understanding correctly?

Well no point deleting as people have probably already downloaded and they wouldn’t know who has copies. There’s nothing wrong with vlogging your family but you need to be mindful of the family members dignity. They could have a separate channel say on Patreon that deals with issues and people need to join and pay to view there they could do live streams etc for people wanting to talk to others with the same issues. However, I am sceptical about their motives entirely, I believe they are running out of content and are blowing everything out of proportion to gain popularity and interest. KZfaq has changed and people say terrible things, Anna is wrong about that. Human nature pays credence to awful and evil things but overlook nice and kind things as they are viewed as weak. I just hope their second child really does have gender dysphoria because if they are mucking around with the idea that child Eduardo/Edie will blame them for everything wrong in their life.

all the videos are up again?

I also wonder what Alfie and Zoe do, I’ve watched a few videos here and there specifically from Zoe and their channels have always been the daily vlogs and such but I really hope they learn from the family channels drama and I hope they don’t exploit their daughter. What do you think?

Some still on their channel

Their channel is still up and FULL of videos.

Dad Challenge Podcast is questionable. He makes some good points but his channel alone has been problematic

I saw his live a few days ago and he was open to discuss the problems but he was so defensive and named problems like cold showers as misunderstood and a joke 😬

“the internet is not hospitable anymore” nah it’s always been wack and people have always said smth when people post weird shit online

All these family channel documentaries 😶

what did he say that was creepy and weird in his pre-kids videos? i'm so curious!!! why so vague my teacup is emptyyy

The video are back on the channel

People expressed *JOY* about a young child having a severe m×ntal illn×ss... As a Christian we've been warned for decades by Clergy that soon good will be bad and vice-versa. Here we are.