Thanks Marco! Stop by sometime - I’d be happy to show you in person

I don’t doubt that!

Hahaha, that’s literally what I say everytime you make a video

How large is your wrist?

@@hdjekso7930 6.5 inches

What do you mean their credor movement ?

@@sergezerkin The crater uses 3r14 movement if I remember correctly, the SBGY line it uses the 7r31. The infrastructure and the layout of both of these watches are very similar. Although the higher tier watch used this movement first, this watch uses a derivative of that same caliber

Compared to what jlc and iwc ? Yes ! But those are not watches … they are like Seiko … compared to Kari voultaileinen or other perfections … these are good but nothing even close

@@sergezerkin Not really seeing it from your point of view, but then I think it's also a matter of taste. Could I drop 10-large USD for an IWC? Yes, but it would be there on my wrist, staring back like an obscene extravagance because the emphasis of my life these days is about charitable and relief projects, (Samaritan's Purse). IWC makes beautiful watches, but they're not my thing; they get the details to perfection but oversized flat face aesthetic just feels more style-watch. If I'm honest though, I would admit to owning two large-face Skagen titanium chronos but these days I'm leaning more tool-watch. On the other hand, I have not ruled out that Breitling just yet, they're still honest pilot's watches.

They are definitely above the ranks of Rolex and other brands in the same category, but nowhere near something like Patek Phillipe and Vacheron Constatin. I would even say that Jaeger Le-Coultre is a notch above Grand Seiko. The only two areas where Grand Seiko really shines are their dials and the technology of the Spring Drive movement.

@@gclip9883I own both the Reverso Medium Small Seconds and the SBGY003. The finishing of the GS is way ahead of the JLC. I love both of them but man, as JLC charge 11k Euros for the Reverso, I would say my Spring Drive is a bargain.

Can’t disagree with that!

@@MinuteMon I hope Grand Seiko read this - they should do 44GS in 38mm (because same movement can fit omiwatari already), copy the lume from SBGJ255, keep the 100wr, and introduced tapered bracelet - it will sell like hot cakes!!

I’m all for this!!!

The snowflake is more matte white while this SBGY011 is Sparkly white!

@@MinuteMon fantastic thank you! that’s what I was looking for

Agreed - they need a lot of help in that department - the website doesn't do them any favours.

Anyway my wrist size is same as you and i really love this watch and feel hesitant to buy it because of the size but I didn’t find 44gs case in 38 mm. Most of 44 gs case is 40 mm. I found one in36.5 mm but a bit too small for me as well and the dial is not beautiful like this one. But I think sbgy011 looks nice on your wrist.

Then get a collection of different Grand Seiko's and show the world what u own

They're both 19mm, technically yes. Aesthetically, not sure..

Those are 2 different watches - and 2 different buyers. I personally think it's a fantastic piece.

I too would’ve preferred a 37 or 38mm version!

@@MinuteMon exactly, that's the size this style of watch calls for. I even like how 36 looks on my 7.25 inch wrist.

Not everyone is the same size nor has the same preference. The size is perfect for me. GS does have smaller cased models.

It's just you. Spring drive is not battery powered - it's still a mechanical watch but combines this with an electronic regulator to deliver a high level of accuracy. Winding can be either manual or self-wind.

I haven’t seen or heard anyone’s Spring Drive watches getting magnetized, but then again people who usually buy GS are knowledgeable about watches to avoid magnetism

From Joe Kirk of GS USA: "Spring Drive models are all magnetic resistant to 4,800 A/m - ISO Standard. However, it is not affected the same as traditional mechanical. Potential magnetism would be while exposed to the magnetic field, so no need to demagnetize." In any case, unless you are careless, you're unlikely to magnetize your watch anyway. I wear vintage watches very frequently, and have never had an issue.

There's probably a good reason for that. That said, brand like JLC and Patek will sell you a watch with superbly finished movements and a solid caseback so it just comes down to personal preference in choosing what you buy.

@@trvr Well, yes it's all about personal preferences. I'm just surprised by such an obvious wrong step.

Nothing about that caseback looks like a cheap quartz movement

@@rousseau327 To me it does. I had to look twice to make sure this was not a quartz watch. Why on planet earth is the mechanism _covered?_ What sense _at all_ does it make in a watch like this? Not only mechanical but truly innovative and original mechanical? It just boggles the mind. I understand they really wanted to take the power reserve indicator away from the front but if this is the price to pay for this, then I'm out.

@@JanPBtest dont have an answer for why they made the decision, but it does not objectively look like a quartz caseback, though I’d be interested in seeing some examples you have. What I do know is this design choice is echoed in the Credor Eichi 2, and that’s well received as a watch with a beautiful case back. This watch isn’t on the level of the Eichi, but it’s well finished, and looks objectively great. If you want a watch with more visibility into the mechanical components, this isn’t for you, but it also is miles above any quartz piece I know of in terms of case back.

Technically, your sentence has DNA, do you not see it?

I guess it's not for you then.

Every brand has its issues, Grand Seiko's main issue is their refusal to improve their clasps, and their awfully large sports watches with no smaller option in most instances. But to say "no idea why anyone would want to buy anything from this brand" is just having tunnel vision. They have some of the best dials in the business, and some of the best dial and case finishing at this price point (if not the best), have real history behind the brand. Seiko is the only company that makes Spring Drive movements, and they are 1 of 2 companies that consistently produces high beat movements. People complain when a watch company doesn't give them enough choice or enough access, people also complain when they do have both things. This just all comes down to what you like in a brand, there's no right or wrong. And regarding price increases, almost all of them (that have to do with their desirable watches) come with improvements in bracelet quality, new dials, new movements, and top tier movement finishing for the price. I'd have like them to not raise the prices as much, but you can't fault a business for doing that when they bring something to the table in the process. There's no objective reasoning behind saying they are overrated. They are still seen as "just an overpriced Seiko" by most people, and even most watch enthusiasts choose to fixate on GS's flaws while choosing to accept that of other brands. Their resale value is also no better than your average luxury watch brand. In what metric is Grand Seiko overrated?

Blasphemy

You are right on several things but bad time keeping is ridiculous.

@@Aoelx yeah it is ridiculous that they have had some serious timekeeping issues at these price points.