As a wise man once said, "Never trust a man with a racing chair"

I mean he is not wrong. 70€ games, 30 FPS and controller with dildo features scares me. Luckily i don't have to experience them.

The only thing I “fear” is that console-standards will be applied to PC, and PC gaming will suffer.

Fear that an overpriced bluray player might, actualy produce a framerate comprable to morrowind on the original xbox?

havnt looked back since i switched to PC. even if my PC wasnt more powerful than a ps5, it can still do way more and i would never give up that freedom for a mediocre gaming experience

My Pc is laughing at both PS5 and Xbox as I watch this video.

another thing to keep in mind when comparing GDDR6 vs DDR4/5 is that GDDR memory has higher throughput but also higher latency. DDR4/5 has lower latency but also lower throughput. the lower latency of DDR memory is better for a CPU, and the faster throughput of GDDR memory is more suited for GPUs. there is a reason why PCs continue to use distinct memory for each type of processor

"Will consoles kill PC gaming?" is a question I have heard first time 15-20 years ago, which should by itself tell the answer. Consoles are what they always were, software and hardware locked purpose built PCs and in a way they have lost one of the main advantages they used to have: They used to be plug and play, now they have to deal with the same update bullshit that PCs do. The one advantage they still have is not much of an advantage at all: When they come out, they are less pricey than the equivalent PC and why? Because while companies can sell them for cheaper, they profit from every single purchase made for that console. Downsides of consoles and their effect on the industry as a whole too many to go into now. TL;DR Consoles will never kill PC gaming unless something absolutely insane happens like a worldwide ban on PC games. PC gaming can exist without consoles, console gaming can't exist without PCs.

This dude is insane. I have a 3060 ti but still mainly play consoles ( a convenience thing for me) but this dude is cray cray. PC will always be the optimal and better experience for so many reasons, control options, almost limitless settings to tweak for your particular set up, etc

The only thing i fear from PS is the shitty PC ports of their formerly exclusive 'games'.

Why is it that if a console peasant isn't a Nintendo fanboy, they'll pretend Nintendo doesn't exist? That's the only console manufacturer that hasn't ported their games to PC and they have some of the best selling franchises in the industry.

The most accurate GPU comparison to the PS5 is the RX 6700 (non XT). Iceberg Tech did a really good video comparing that GPU to the PS5 in multiple games and game modes. It also makes sense from a hardware perspective since both the GPU and PS5 are RDNA 2 with both having the same 36 compute units ROPS/TMU's and cores. The PS5 has a wider 256 bit memory bus vs the 6700's 160 bit bus but the 6700 has Infinity Cache (L3) which can make up for the narrower bus. You can put a PC together with an RX 6700 (non XT) for around $650. Tech Yes City did such a build. Console and PC aren't an apples to apples comparison though so it's a difficult comparison to make.

Ah yes, as a PC player, I always feel a pang of fear when I turn my head 90 degrees to the left and look slightly down at my PS5.

it stuck so much fear even sony was scared and started putting all its exclusives over to pc...

Damn that’s crazy because i actually watch him sometimes oh well😂

So the overall video is a Sony fanboy learning that the PS5 is doing what the PC have been doing this for years and learned how a PC's GPU, CPU and a SSD works. I'm starting to wonder who has more room temperature IQ, Sony fanboys or Harman Smith. Seriously, fanboys already learned the PS5's "Magical SSD" is nothing more than a normal PC SSD with the upcoming Rachet and Clank PC Port. These deadbrain takes take so much patience to watch, and I can only imagine how hard it is having to edit the video. I'd understand if these were kids believing everything Sony/Xbox is saying, but this is a grown ass man taking Sony's word. Geez...

He really thinks GDDR6 is some technological breakthrough when 1660 Super already use it lmao

they're not good enough for what they offer even the ps4 or the xbox one offer you more games ,more features and they were next gen in their time compared to the ps5 or xbox series x which still offer 30fps even on 2023 thanks to 4k 120 fps the marketting fooled them all they're still not better than the last gen when you what they offer

Dude, come on, it's almost impossible to build an equivalent PC for $500. You're almost there after you've purchased the CPU and GPU-- not to mention motherboard, power supply, RAM, SSD, cooling, tower, etc. Maaaaybe with used parts-- which can be totally bunk once you've installed and tested them. Consoles are good value, I don't think anyone will argue against that.

Shader cache is calculated prior to running the game. That's it. You wait 5-7 minutes for the first launch. Yes, the first start is longer, but then it's ok.

10:04. Getting used PC parts is great. I was upgrading my PC about a year ago and I manage to get a 12 GB version of the 3080, with it's box and support bracket for £600 off eBay. It's in very good condition.

Consoles follow the gradual improvements provided by an open PC platform. Look at the past 4 generations of consoles, the market of PC's, gaming especially, has lead to a competing market for CPU's, GPU's and memory that creates advancements and improvements. Without this as a basis, console development would have been stifled into depending on the platform manufacturer to achieve these gains, leading to radically differing hardware profiles between systems and most likely games performance at a much lower level to what we have today. For the past 4 generations of consoles, we have seen consoles packaging in development components from the PC market, first starting with the 6th generation and it's adoption of PC based GPU's (Power VR on Dreamcast, GeForce on Xbox and ATi on GameCube), then CPU's with the 8th generation (AMD x64 based CPU's in PS4 and Xbox One). Without gaming PC's, this would never have occurred. The moment a gaming console hits the market, it's equivalent hardware has already been on the PC market for atleast a few months or due to contractual obligations will come to PC with immense improvements later. Consoles provide one simple benefit over PC's, access to a coordinated build without fuss for a manageable price, the consumer they target is not the PC enthusiast and the PC market is highly profitable without the console gamer. But the truth is, PC's can survive without consoles, consoles cannot survive without PC's.

they made a mini fridge of xbox, now i want a router that looks like a ps5

Shared Memory is annoying... Dedicated VRAM is lesser latency since the RAM is near the GPU dye.

I know this is late, but I just watched this video and this guy is actually a huge PC fanatic, almost all o his content is on PC parts and the best prices for components, he made the video satirical.

If ps5 was so great, I would have purchased one already. Im so scared

Thanks for the rick roll Joe, very nice!

My rtx 2060 super uses system memory when out of vid memory as does every gpu. lol check resources the gpu will have double the ram it really has because it's sharing the ram called Dynamic video memory...

I was completely out until a few years ago... shortly before corona I felt like gambling again. I wanted to wait for the new ss, sx and ps5 consoles on the horizon. but could then buy an i5 4 cores with 8gb ram and 1050ti for cheap money. that's how i got back in. relatively quickly i exchanged the gpu for a 1060. thanks to crypto, prices were now very high, games became more demanding. then i got my first ryzen 5, right after that a 1080 because the 1060 died. meanwhile i ended up with a stable system after a few exchanges. almost most of it was used by someone. pc gaming is way better. can build my pc according to my budget and needs. the graphics are no longer enough, no problem old gpu out on ebay found new ones and it's good. it is my decision. I don't depend on gamepass or psn. I can buy cheap gamers everywhere. want to say i'm free I'm in the mood to gamble with max fps, then I imagine it at the beginning of the corona period, and the crypto boom - the theoretical entry into nextgen via the console was cheaper. apart from that, the current generation of consoles has already landed where consoles always were: 30fps with upscaling and checkerboarding. I don't understand how anyone can argue against the pc at all. the part is just much more versatile.

That Vex guy is PC youtuber, so I'm not sure where he came from making that video in the first place.

Joe, maybe the directx comparison can be likened to cars and gasoline . Cars have different parts, better, worse, more efficient or less efficient, more powerful or less powerful, yet they all use gasoline and process it more or less the same way, with different degrees of efficiency.

The only real downside to PC gaming is that developers have alot of trouble accounting for every possible hardware spec build or how certain outside software interacts with it. It makes things alot more complicated on both the developer and Player side. (This is something I've heard from multiple devs in the past anyway on that end of things) The upside is if you're willing to occasionally have a hiccup to fix and can spend the money/time into the pc you can have the best performance available. I think consoles have their place in the market and PCs have their place in the market. The idea that the ps5 "scares pc owners" is pretty laughable to be honest

Guys I am shaking in my boots, my 64GB of DDR5 RAM stands no chance against his measly 16GB GDDR6.

The funny thing is that even if, as impossible as it is, a console was made that was way more powerful than the top of the line PC, give it a couple years and PCs that are better than that console.

I don't even use windows, proton can play nearly every pc game i tried

whaddaya think about potato pc?

Why is this channel not bigger.

Usually Vex is pretty on the ball, but this take makes me think he hit his head.

11:29 How the frick do yuwu drown underwater???

you always talk about second hand market is there anything like that for people in Germany ?

DirectStorage is in fact a non-PS5-feature, because it's exclusive to PCs and Xbox Series... 🤣

Even the worst pc port is still better than the console version. When it isn't a sttuttery mess, it is still running at a higher framerate and resolution bare minimum. Granted there are some stubborn devs who are trying their damndest to make the worst port ever but hopefully that trend will come to an end with enough exposure.

His video wasn't as clear as it could have been, BUT the observations he's reporting is pretty much what many people think is the future of PC architecture. The main one being unified memory, system RAM and GPU RAM being the same thing! No more of this nonsense about moving stuff around and trying to reduce it to fit into a discreet GPU. That leaves the big data bottleneck, reading from the SSD. As mentioned DirectStorage is Microsoft's versions of the Sony high speed SSD routines. Leaving the future GPU reduced to a collection of specialised cores possibly in a co-processor socket next to the CPU!

The only "fear" it causes is the AAA industry getting stagnated from focusing on progressively dated hardware. PS5 is what the equilivent of a RTX2060, thing was already a gen behind when it launched.

lmaoo??? edit this was my thought from the title but damn...

Just checked, it would cost $640 to build a console equivalent PC and this is including a better GPU as the equivalent new is out of stock 😂

I will say to anyone wanting to dive into pc gaming. Do not try to stay at 500. I'd say spend a bit more. If you go in, go in deep.

here is the thing price to performance it is better mostly because of the series s so if you only have 300$ and 15 $ a month then yeah but it aint that hard to build a decent pc at the price of series x and ps5

These fools fail to realize their console games are made on a PC and ported to console. Most console players are like most of the population. Effin regarded.

That pcpart picker list he did with a 5700x is so disingenuous, we already have an official benchmark of the cpu performance of these consoles from AMD when they released the Ryzen 4700s which is the same cpu used in these consoles and the performance is just slightly above a 2700x, a 2700x is alot slower than a 5700x by a huge margin.

Altho I have a 5800X3D with a 6800 gpu pc at my disposal, I now bough a PS5 because of the freaking exclusives that wont come to PC ever and I bought it on a sale. :D

At 13:30 that guy says that consoles have a certain speed ssd and memory and everything. So my laptop doesn't know what it has inside of it ? If I go to my system specs it says what it has inside, so what does that mean ? And he isn't talking about games and optimizations and shit, no, he is talking about the console knowing what it has inside and takes advantage of it. Well shit, if I replace my 2 tb second ssd with a 6tb one it's gonna know that. Or if I put 32 GBs of ram instead of 16 it will know that and it's gonna take advantage of it. But hey I am not an expert so I don't know what I'm talking about. Nice video joe btw keep em coming.

For nvdia comparison it's a 2070 super not so good . For amd is 5700 XT sooo nahhh im ok with my 2080ti the hard truth is Sony make bad port for pc only for marketing. I know 599 it's a good price but with no 3rd party key seller , pay for internet , and no choice . hard pass for me .

Finally a respond to vex

Consoles are what parents who don't know anything about computers buy for their kids to play video games on the TV. Some kids develop a weird attachment to that product from their childhood and become fanbois.

Everythng is on point, great pacing.

I remember seeing a video of this guy which gave me some red flags And now I see this take from Vex. Seems like my initial impression was correct Another tech tuber who doesnt understand how hardware works in a gaming setting

the ps 5 is just faster than the ps 4 and bigger

I built my first pc less than a year ago. It’s not even that awesome, it has a 3770, with a 1080, 16gb ram and 1tb. I built it for about 300$. I wouldn’t take a ps5 over it

I'm probably one of the few people that thinks like this, but, when I think PC, I think workhorse. I do play mainly on Series X, but I do have some games on my laptop. I mainly use it for school and Networking, though. I guess you could say I'm both a console and PC gamer.

nice, i got rickrolled

The way this guy talked about gddr memory really made me cringe

They talk about console superiority then cry over cross-play

this is like "is mobile gaming striking fear into consoles?"

Consoles excel in the plug and play department. Funny enough, my good friend just built a gaming PC, and they can't get to playing with it right now... because their keyboard and mouse broke (an old set they had), and they cannot get a new one until Monday. So yeah, consoles win in "ease of use" But for literally anything else, you can't beat a PC. And let me tell you, I am not scared of the marginal difficulty in PC vs consoles. This was their very first PC build, and with some help from me, managed to get it to POST but can't install windows just yet. PCs aren't that hard... especially if you buy pre-built.

Where do these people come from? The internet never runs out

Im a casual console gamer and even I know the pc is literally untouchable in gaming something consoles can never reach😂

I'm still waiting for the console to make a game

Does he know that the PS5 is a limited PC? That's basically what console systems are.

Bro... BROOO worst part is, the PS5 doesn't even have direct storage support, only the Xbox series consoles and PCs do This is tech made by Microsoft. So not only is he trying to argue that direct storage is such a major asset for the PS5, he actually thinks it even exists as a usable tool on the PS5 in the first place 😂

I have a ps5 and there’s nothing new and a lot of games flop lately. I’m switching to pc and for sure not looking back.

From what I remember of that Broken Silicon clip from the full episode, he was referring more to very specific ways the PS5 moves data when doing certain things over the current average gaming PC based on the SSD speed and the way games can be coded specifically for it, not claiming that consoles are better than PC's

I have an i5 10400f an 1650 super and 32GB Ram, about low to mid range hardware. It can run most games I throw at it on 60fps with a little tweaking here and there. Unlike a $600 plastic box that can barely run games past 30fps. Yup, I'm so scared of PS5.

The only difference between new & old gen is instead of being 4-5 years behind there’re 4-3 behind 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

I think direct storage is a ms thing.

I think I've seen that guy before. It was in another one of these sorts of videos where somebody had to debunk the dumb things he was saying. I find it interesting how common they are where somebody will say how the PC is dying or will be dead in a few years. And like in this video, the person almost always pulls out the same old tired arguments like how PCs can have different configurations. Or they'll compare the console to the most overpriced builds imaginable. Or they will just strangely limit PC in ways that don't make sense, like saying console is better because you can hook it up to a tv. Even when they acknowledge that you can indeed use a pc with a tv, they pull out lines like "A pc's place is on the desk". But that guy's build that you showed reminds me of how even a lot of PC users overspend on their parts. People like Daniel Owens or PC Builder will often critique builds that they see and give advice on how to save money or get a better bang for your buck. The difference is it looks like that guy spent maybe half an hour at best just picking whatever he thought looked the coolest or something rather than seriously thought about what kind of performance his choices would get him, what kind of budget he could have theoretically worked within. The only surprising thing is that he didn't pick an Nvidia card to make the price look even higher. Whatever the case, it can often be quite easy to shoot up the price on a build if you aren't paying attention. You pick one part over another because even though it is more expensive, it's like 1% better or you pick a case or something just in case you need it, or you pick parts with RGB because you wanted to make your build flashy. But in reality, that might be better, but you wouldn't notice it, that feature you overspent for goes unused, and the RGB you turned off after a month anyway. If you actually do want the best of the best, actually do use the feature, and/or do actually want the RGB and are willing to spend for it, then go ahead, but you shouldn't overspend on those things and then complain about PC being expensive because of your poor spending choices either. I also think it's interesting that even on PCpartpicker, that the build guide has good builds to look at and judge based on price-quality. Like take the entry level build. It's sub 400 dollars and if you added an RX 6600 or 6600XT it would be a pretty decent PC. Their "great AMD" build comes somewhat close to the build the guy showed, but also provides more upgradeabiility since it uses an AM5 motherboard as it's base. And you can see that to save on costs, they use a 600 watt PSU (still gold rated), and a cheaper SSD (people tend to overspend on SSDs the most in their builds).

Did he state that 1000$ pc is equivalent to ps5? I think he meant ps6

Seriously, who in the world is afraid of a Radeon 6700? Because, that's basically what a PS5 has.

I think consoles are more convenient than computers, I don't really feel like dealing with all the downloads and spec management, I just want to press one button and play.

lol Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeee. An overpriced plastic paperweight that has no games on it is so SCARY to me. I'm shivering. I might need to cuddle next to my mum tonight over how scared I am.

Also the fact that it's a fucking PC, and you have a free computer with your gaming set up

F*** you for rickrolling me. 😂😂😂

Just when I think you can’t find another idiot, you surprise me. It’s wonderful seeing people try to be technical experts while getting literally everything wrong because they’re unable to weigh the entire picture.

Why do you only play games I could play on my 2500U "Move data" means the SSD with Kracken compression and something else I forget can move information faster than PC SSD (mind you that clip was before Gen 5 SSDs came out) Xbox is primarily the one dropping frames to 30 fps, let's keep it real. Sony exclusives cap out around 70-90 fps. The PS5 might literally be a 6700. It's interesting how you write off all PC problems on poor programing but for console you say it must be the console. Couldn't be bad programing there huh?

You know, I play on the PS5. Never had a PC. But, I mean, it's just common sense that PCs are better. Like how is this even an argument, the numbers are right there. Surely people don't actually think consoles rival good PCs......right?

I think consoles are the 'light beer' of gaming and don't come close to my PC.

Lol Vex the troller

whats the name of the persons channel who thinks consoles are far superior to PC's?

Increase game prices is what I fear, which unfortunately the console community seems to encourage.

From what I've seen of this guy he's pretty pro pc, at least he talks about the recent pc tech even if it's just him repeating the articles. So this video seems like bait to me

Vex always has extremely weird hot takes and insane clickbait.

Lol😂 so scared of the ps5

Consoles aren't sustainable imo , they have to reach a point where they cost too much or they sell them at such a loss people end up paying a fuck ton for everything else.

Does these people even hear what comes out of their mouths? 😆 Jesus it should be illegal to make a video with misinformation on it.

Never go full Crapgamer!^^ Please Joe "Keep that same energy" with your videos.

Technically the ps5 is nearly identical to a rx 6700 non xt with the difference being memory bus width since the consoles have unified memory. I don’t understand how people actually think consoles will ever be superior to pc 😂

I got a Xbox series x 😂 but this guy is hella crazy lol 😂.

Cause if i wanted 30fps, i would be playing 4k, RTx high... 🤢🤢🤮🤮

The only thing I fear from the PS5 is a bad console port.

Lol you cannot compare ps5 to pc especially when there's cash cow method which called The ps plus and thats the biggest disappointing about console and yes consoles are restricted so wtf are you even try to claim here? They are not better in anyway (i meant what he said) unless its maybe power consumption for the most part according to techpowerup ps5 draws like 180w and sure you can say that console cheaper but not for long every month or year you have to pay more money to play online how is it paying less? Its better to already spend a little bit more on pc even tho it will be worse than a console unless you are looking to play triple a titles at 4k or 1440p (which 1440p might be quite a bit more expensive but it will last longer in the long run) so the only issue right here is the knowledgeable for which components can play at 1080p there is already 2 gpus that can do it one of them is rx 6600 or rx 6600 xt and i think a year ago it was considered probably best 1080 card or best value card for 1080p gaming lol so what are you trying to claim here? I have console and pc altho not equivalent to each other yet i felt very restricted to the console settings which are quite sucks tbf