This Guy Tried to "FIX" the Les Paul

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@Trog
@Trog Ай бұрын
🔴Check it out for yourself here: tidd.ly/4aKsLYI
@scotthumphrey99
@scotthumphrey99 Ай бұрын
Why did he add an extra strap button on the cut away?
@jacobsmith6773
@jacobsmith6773 Ай бұрын
theres a strap button on the horn...why?
@silvermica
@silvermica Ай бұрын
@@scotthumphrey99 I believe it's for a harness that goes around your waist - taking the weight off of the player's shoulder. I know the guy selling the guitar - and I'd seem him with that harness for his guitar.
@silvermica
@silvermica Ай бұрын
@@jacobsmith6773 - it's for a waist harness
@jacobsmith6773
@jacobsmith6773 Ай бұрын
@@silvermica just looked itup looks like it distributes the load evenly. thanks!
@SHENDOH
@SHENDOH Ай бұрын
That man knew what he wanted out of his LP. I admire that. A true player. I will never understand collector logic. My guitars are played
@jacobfelix8577
@jacobfelix8577 Ай бұрын
Same here. I collect but to play what I have. Even trade for other guitars. Sometimes it’s a regret tho
@HauntedGuitarMan
@HauntedGuitarMan Ай бұрын
Well maybe not so much, it is for sale.
@SHENDOH
@SHENDOH Ай бұрын
@@HauntedGuitarMan not mine. I use them as tools. Why sell your tools
@RoboSteave
@RoboSteave Ай бұрын
I'm with you on this. The most important thing to me about a guitar is how it plays, i.e. feels. How it sounds is next but not as important as you can control that with the amp and pedals. Funniest thing about collectors is if a guitar looks beat up. Done at the factory? Worth more. Done by the owner? Worth less. Yeah, that works.
@StephenG1991
@StephenG1991 Ай бұрын
But it was done in a sloppy and not actually necessary way. Could have just bought a string butler.
@edgardo034
@edgardo034 Ай бұрын
Is there a strap button on the cut side? WTF
@jyo9735
@jyo9735 Ай бұрын
its ambidextrous now
@mouseanalyse
@mouseanalyse Ай бұрын
Yep, just noticed that too. Maybe lefty player where recessing the pots would make a lot of sense. On the other hand the shaved heel makes less sense for a leftie… 🤷🏻‍♂️
@davidfaustino4476
@davidfaustino4476 24 күн бұрын
​@@mouseanalysethe pots aren't even recessed. They stick out just as far as a stock guitar. This guy just really wanted to destroy his Gibson.
@NiceLittleLeprechaun
@NiceLittleLeprechaun Ай бұрын
Besides the headstock (which i understand why he did and can agree to some extent) - This is actually a really cool an unusual level of modifications. i like this ModPaul.
@bobsaturday4273
@bobsaturday4273 Ай бұрын
then you're a goof too
@NiceLittleLeprechaun
@NiceLittleLeprechaun Ай бұрын
@@bobsaturday4273 Was a goof before it was cool - my fellow GooferTrooper :)
@panzerlieb
@panzerlieb Ай бұрын
@@NiceLittleLeprechaunoh this is so cool! Knowing what these cost, I’d be reluctant to do mods like this. But maybe this guitar was gifted to the owner, so he didn’t have to feel the pain. But nevertheless, this is a cool AF mod.
@luismudry
@luismudry 12 күн бұрын
Como estropear tu guitarra hermosa y hacer un frankentein 😂😂😂
@ronaldjacobsen3004
@ronaldjacobsen3004 Ай бұрын
What about the strap button on the horn?
@russellflagg8519
@russellflagg8519 Ай бұрын
same thing I was waiting to hear about.
@philmazzie3674
@philmazzie3674 Ай бұрын
It has a strap button on the horn. What else could there be to find out?
@dw7704
@dw7704 Ай бұрын
Wondering that myself
@DoubleDguitar
@DoubleDguitar Ай бұрын
Bam, it’s a lefty.
@stop736
@stop736 Ай бұрын
When you consider the amount of money people pay to have a guitar modded and relic’d to look like they’re real players. And none of those mods or relics have anything to do with how the guitar sounds or plays. I don’t see the big deal in modding a guitar so it actually plays easier and has a straight string pull when you consider the junk people pay extra to have just for aesthetic purposes.
@jerrymorgan1752
@jerrymorgan1752 Ай бұрын
12 Gibson, Les Paul owners out there. One confined joy and satisfaction when they have their nuts lubed. Simple as that.
@eskemeldgaardkrogh4145
@eskemeldgaardkrogh4145 Ай бұрын
I love LPs in general and my LP in particular… but in NO WAY does it hold tune as well as guitars with straight string pull… and in no way will a guitar with straight string pull ever hold tune as well as a Floyd Rose. No nut lube will ever overcome the inherrent design disadvantages. I can live with it, but would prefer tuning on my LP to be as stable as on my Floyd Rose equiped Strat.
@ywtcc
@ywtcc Ай бұрын
I appreciate the mods done to the Les Paul. It's a shame about the headstock - a simple trapezoidal layout would have worked better. Other than that, it's a handsome guitar with some real nice custom touches.
@DJRY360
@DJRY360 Ай бұрын
i am more bothered by how dusty it was left for the photo-shoot...
@panzerlieb
@panzerlieb Ай бұрын
Yeah I’m not sure why they installed these in the pattern they did. They could have just drilled the new tuner holes in a trapezoid pattern 🤷🏻‍♂️. As the tootsie pop Owl said “the world may never know”
@patrickclune3600
@patrickclune3600 Ай бұрын
I own a bunch of Les Pauls, ‘50’s, ‘60’s and ‘70’s, I’ve played them all out in bands for 55+ years. Only problem was when my Lp custom deluxe black beauty came off the strap and broke the “ G “ tuning head off while playing at a local Holiday Inn.I had a Lp Deluxe for a backup. It took a long time to get over it. I don’t even know if there were strap locks in 1977. We didn’t have a Sweetwater or on-line store then
@tonyhills2112
@tonyhills2112 Ай бұрын
That LP is quite the abomination lol. But I gotta say that guy has some cojones!
@kkjhn41
@kkjhn41 Ай бұрын
I have the Steinberger tuners in a non staggered pattern that came stock on my Les Paul Future Tribute and I have to say they are fantastic to use. Not only do they fine tune and hold tune better, ergonomically they are much easier to use. Reaching straight across to the back of the headstock to turn the tuners feels more natural and puts on less forearm strain than the hand position that traditional tuners forces on you especially when tuning the G, B and high E strings.
@nieko3038
@nieko3038 Ай бұрын
I swapped them with normal tuners. Don’t see many people talk about the future tribute.
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 Ай бұрын
He should’ve just put an explorer headstock on it like the Aldo Nova.
@georgeoh-well8116
@georgeoh-well8116 Ай бұрын
Not a very elegant headstock solution, but I can absolutely understand the motivation. Bob the brave 👍
@Rhythmicons
@Rhythmicons Ай бұрын
Quick question: I have an '89 Les Paul Standard with the Chainsaw case. I don't take my guitar anywhere but I play regularly. Should I get an off the shelf case and use that and not put the wear and tear on the latches of the Chainsaw?
@cromBumny
@cromBumny Ай бұрын
Heritage H150 custom review is needed!
@ChrisShortyAllen
@ChrisShortyAllen Ай бұрын
Buy one.
@samright4661
@samright4661 Ай бұрын
Just a knock off Gibson
@shaunfreke3614
@shaunfreke3614 Ай бұрын
Never gone to happen, no direct competitor of Gibson is ever reviewed 🤷🏼‍♂️
@samright4661
@samright4661 Ай бұрын
@@shaunfreke3614 He’s reviewed different companies guitars !
@user-zm6yh3ux7l
@user-zm6yh3ux7l Ай бұрын
​​@@samright4661but plays a lot better. I don't buy guitars to look at, I buy them to play. I could go out and purchase some of the best Gibsons if I wanted. No point in it. Every one I've ever had has had some kind of issue from the factory. Got my first Gibson in the '90s and it had a factory dent in the neck that was finished over as well as a dead G string due to an improperly slotted tunomatic bridge. The last Gibson I bought was a 2018 model and it had a crack in the rosewood fretboard and the Gibson logo on the headstock was not centered when it was applied.
@randomcompdude
@randomcompdude 22 күн бұрын
The roller saddles are a comfort upgrade.
@TranceMasterJack
@TranceMasterJack Ай бұрын
That transparent ebony looks like a panda bear.
@eddiejr540
@eddiejr540 Ай бұрын
I have a really well cut bone nut and a schaller roller bridge on my LP and the tuning is rock solid🤘
@wesleed1120
@wesleed1120 Ай бұрын
Yep I saw this listing the other day
@clarkbabin9799
@clarkbabin9799 Ай бұрын
The moded silver burst kind of looks odd with the fade going right into the marbled look of the top.
@luthravin4774
@luthravin4774 Ай бұрын
Once you see…you can’t unsee it!! Brought to you by the…From the No turning back Division…and..what the story with strap button on the lower cutaway…very odd Les Paul that one
@lilbitofOverdrive
@lilbitofOverdrive Ай бұрын
The old LSR tuners went to crazy prices too I had a set and got $400 for them years ago I havn't seen them for sale in years
@sc0repio662
@sc0repio662 Ай бұрын
Hey Trog, I've got a couple of Emerald guitars I can tell ya that the tuner-to-nut slot alignment on them are as "straight" as a PRS. Of course, their all CF construction means they're more or less immune to the tuning instabilities that plague their wooden counterparts. I've had to tune my 24-08 & 245 WAAAAAAY more often than I have my Virtuo or X20. Gotta say the countersunk knobs on that do kinda look cool... LOL! On a PRS, it's usually a sign the unit is an S2 or Core.
@jimandskittum
@jimandskittum Ай бұрын
My Schecter has a headstock similar to a PRS. I wind the bottom three strings from the wrong side so the tuner cranks the right way.
@denverrandy7143
@denverrandy7143 Ай бұрын
That metallic brown/black burst you used to own was pretty cool!!! Thanks Trogly.👍
@CheeseCircus
@CheeseCircus Ай бұрын
Why are the strings wrapped weird around the stop-tail, like they were put in upside down?
@Spidouz
@Spidouz Ай бұрын
I love that Fender got it right, PRS got it right, and yet, Gibson never fix the problem even thought it’s a well known issue… it just shows how much they care!
@buzzcrushtrendkill
@buzzcrushtrendkill 20 күн бұрын
Gibson groupies value tradition. The tradition of ridiculously fragile neck/head stocks and nut binding 😄
@jenniferlawrence2701
@jenniferlawrence2701 Ай бұрын
That's pretty cool. Good work Bob.
@jackmorrison8269
@jackmorrison8269 Ай бұрын
I only ever had one, a LP Studio Pro and i was scared to fool around with it too much. Such an amazing guitar
@ethanhitchcock5431
@ethanhitchcock5431 Ай бұрын
A new Mandela Effect !? Yikes !!!...I love the Natural finish Explorer ! Thanks Trogly !
@rockhead69
@rockhead69 6 күн бұрын
Spectacular fix...after all, Jimmy Page, Peter Green, Gary Moore, and other minor musicians were never able to make music out of an ordinary Les Paul.
@JustMe-dr2ci
@JustMe-dr2ci Ай бұрын
People who fret about this angle have ignored a lot of great songs played with Fender, Gibson, Ibanez, Danelectro, Airline, Teisco, and tons of less than perfect guitars.
@c.f.pedraza4057
@c.f.pedraza4057 Ай бұрын
I tried a Schaller roller bridge for shitz n gigs with a stopbar tailpiece, and I gotta say, I loved it. I even threw on the Schaller version of a tp6 tailpiece, and the strings move like butter. Feels like there's a trem with no trem. Was a silly mod, but I ended up loving it. I did the mods to a Les Paul Custom.
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 Ай бұрын
my 93 studio is clapped out with worn frets and bad nitro, was considering similar modifications. . . shopped for a roller nut to go with the roller bridge for eons, never found one that looked like it would work. . . I guess I have a counterpart out there, although I wonder if he wore his out first. . . Mine i bought new in 95 and wore the frets out while polishing the paint off at the contact points. Mine isn't a holy grail thing, although it is a nice 93 with ebony fretboard, going to refurbish it up again and wear it out again so may as well go with my style.
@joelonsdale
@joelonsdale Ай бұрын
"This Les Paul is *MY* guitar - I'll never change"... Proceeds to change everything about it.
@badscrew4023
@badscrew4023 Ай бұрын
Then sells it😊
@rodshop5897
@rodshop5897 Ай бұрын
I've enjoyed those tuners on my Carvin. They work well for the most part, but really tiny strings are a problem for them. I didn't have to relocate them, just put it in the normal spots.
@danilorg
@danilorg Ай бұрын
I love people who try new things. That was interesting.
@rmcq1999
@rmcq1999 Ай бұрын
Firebird has straight pull... sort of. There's still an angle because the headstock is angled back. On a VII with the Maestro vibrola, the tuning stability is real shit if you haven't been meticulous with the nut. Also a roller bridge helps.
@stephenskiles7782
@stephenskiles7782 Ай бұрын
Stap locks on the horn?
@bryanp8010
@bryanp8010 Ай бұрын
String butler goes on all my LP’s, its like magic, but i also add rolling bridges on guitars with 52 or less gauage strings. I cant deal with tuning issues as a semi-pro
@seansmith6455
@seansmith6455 Ай бұрын
Congratulations to whoever did this for correcting the string alignment issue and simultaneously creating the most aesthetically repulsive Les Paul I've ever seen in my life! OMG, that thing is like something out of a nightmare! 😮😂
@IDGAF_PLUS
@IDGAF_PLUS Ай бұрын
String Butler works awesome and actually looks kind of cool.
@dannyturner7967
@dannyturner7967 Ай бұрын
Hey Trog....how does one go about getting a edwards sg?
@user-dy3jx7ml3y
@user-dy3jx7ml3y Ай бұрын
Roller saddles help to not break strings I like them on all my tuneomatic style guitars
@christophervaldez8746
@christophervaldez8746 Ай бұрын
Saw this on Instagram today.
@ltgray2780
@ltgray2780 Ай бұрын
That 1st LP looks like it would be fun. But if I bought another guitar, my wife would be VERY unhappy.
@ChrisShortyAllen
@ChrisShortyAllen Ай бұрын
She might have taste.
@edwarddreier2958
@edwarddreier2958 Ай бұрын
If you look closely you’ll also notice there’s a strap button on the cutaway horn too
@danieljwillen1993
@danieljwillen1993 Ай бұрын
What's the guitar at around the 6:00 mark? :) great video btw!
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino Ай бұрын
String pull is the least of your problems with a LP neck. The neck on most models is still made of fairly thin flat sawn wood with no scarf joint or grain change where the neck angles. All it takes is one harder fall and your neck is either breaking at the headstock or the neck joint.
@therealxicojorge
@therealxicojorge Ай бұрын
that black p90 les paul pro is so awesome
@micksterminator3
@micksterminator3 Ай бұрын
My old friend has one of those natural explorers. Was most impressed with how nice the pots felt compared to all my beginner guitars
@troglodytez
@troglodytez Ай бұрын
Good to be back, Trogly
@user-bc7jg8wz9o
@user-bc7jg8wz9o 19 күн бұрын
I really cannot understand why Gibson is not offering the Gibson Custom Les Paul DC Pro Headstock Shape any longer. Or why Epiphone is not offering that.
@musicauthority674
@musicauthority674 Ай бұрын
I also like Fluff and Ridiculous Reverb listings.
@miserychannel666
@miserychannel666 Ай бұрын
6:48 The body looks small on this explorer .. I would say Explorer PRO. The CS serial though .. maybe a Custom Shop Explorer Pro build?
@naokim.5035
@naokim.5035 29 күн бұрын
Gibson Pat Martino has special headstock that reminds me a PRS or something quite similar to MusicMan
@jasonhumphrey1668
@jasonhumphrey1668 Ай бұрын
Hi Trog! What's your opinion on over-wrapping the bridge? Aside from the funky tuner placement, it has the strings over the bridge. What's your experience with this? I've seen other stuff about it, but no general consensus. Ask a wizard, I always say.
@damonboelte
@damonboelte Ай бұрын
LEFT HANDED STRAP BUTTON!!!!
@IceColdWaterTRB
@IceColdWaterTRB Ай бұрын
I LITERALLY SAW THIS GUITAR WITH A FRIEND BEFORE THIS VIDEO. Seeing this in a trogly video is hilarious
@oldadajbych8123
@oldadajbych8123 Ай бұрын
I've definitely heard "Bob's gear bizarre" in 0:52
@brians1793
@brians1793 23 күн бұрын
9:42 Also, it makes sense to use current photos in the state the guitar is currently in, otherwise you could get some surprise dings that weren't in older photos. Same idea as people not using pics from years ago for dating profiles lol, it's just common sense that it's a dishonest thing to do but so many people do it. Of course you need the actual guitar to take pictures of it so it's more to do with preventing people that don't actually have the guitar from using pictures of it in a fake listing as mentioned later.
@JackWGuitarLessons
@JackWGuitarLessons Ай бұрын
is it weird that the first words out of my mouth were "oh that rules" when i saw it??
@whammyman93
@whammyman93 Ай бұрын
This is genius. We all know that filing the nut to match the sharper angles in string travel to the tuners for the g and d strings does not really rectify the tuning instability dilemma. So I give this man an A+ for function. Badass 👍
@BasementBerean
@BasementBerean Ай бұрын
Just seeing "Standard" on the headstock with all those crazy tuners is funny.
@leedouglass9636
@leedouglass9636 Ай бұрын
I love the Gibson head stock.
@jamesfarrell8346
@jamesfarrell8346 Ай бұрын
Regardless what you think of Gibson or thier prices. These old timers, working with their hands, deserve our respect.
@bobsaturday4273
@bobsaturday4273 Ай бұрын
100%
@fevverzz
@fevverzz Ай бұрын
I really like the extra strap button that it has, my guess is it might be for compatibility with left handed people. Say if you want to pull a Hendrix by using a right handed instrument as a lefty, the strap button is there for you to do that when you make that mod.
@guitargamery777
@guitargamery777 Ай бұрын
i have to be honest , i love when someone , without breaking the guitar obviously, gives his her personal touch. I have a collection around 32 guitars and most of them including Fenders, Gibson, the N4, EvH W, Gretsch and many other models like the Jaguar, I had so many modifications including sanding off to the wood a red shinny 7200eur fender, it even sounds better, it really does, less of those high Freq and a more soft sound with a brutal looks with that reversed neck, yeah i took out the neck of a 1977 American Fender and add my own custom made neck, a good one from fender itself as well with Jumbo frets, the original neck i used to build another guitar, so yes i love to see guitar modifications, to be honest i don't like much the look of this less Paul headstock , if fits the owner taste and playability its great than, i never...i mean never liked shinny guitars i really dont know why, i remember taking the paint of a bb king guitar style(Gibson) when i was 13 and i still have that guitar, even the flamenco guitars and classical, i play a lot those nylon guitars as well, i made small modifications like the frets (and im speaking about Ramirez guitars) and to the bridge height so the tension would be better, sorry my Eng, Portuguese here
@newgunguy4176
@newgunguy4176 Ай бұрын
Objective was achieved.
@MrMustache-pg6ey
@MrMustache-pg6ey Ай бұрын
I saw this on reverb 😭 crazy stuff
@francobuzzetti9424
@francobuzzetti9424 19 күн бұрын
i thought you were memeing when you said Steinberger
@Viper505repiV1
@Viper505repiV1 Ай бұрын
Didn't mention the weird second strap button?
@TokyoChopSquad
@TokyoChopSquad Ай бұрын
I'm almost surprised the fret board isn't scalloped.
@shawncozad8565
@shawncozad8565 Ай бұрын
My 17 firebird had them. They change strings quick. Not sure I like them or not
@JonnySoundSounds
@JonnySoundSounds Ай бұрын
looks like a home made stop tail also
@MyMotherTheCar
@MyMotherTheCar Ай бұрын
I wonder if that guy understood that guitar intonation is inherently flawed, and it's literally impossible to be perfectly in tune on every note.
@thehark6247
@thehark6247 Ай бұрын
and it drives me crazy
@rocketpigrecords3719
@rocketpigrecords3719 Ай бұрын
Not to mention Washburn implemented the Buzz Feiten tuning system...to crickets. I tried a few, had an Earvana equipped LTD, never exactly set my ear on fire.
@buckbreaker5185
@buckbreaker5185 Ай бұрын
>what is true temperament
@jenniferlawrence2701
@jenniferlawrence2701 Ай бұрын
There's a difference between "close enough" and "horrible" when it come to tuning.
@NeonBeeCat
@NeonBeeCat Ай бұрын
​@@thehark6247think of guitar intonation as extra spice
@clarkgriffith5705
@clarkgriffith5705 Ай бұрын
Was he left handed? Strap button on the lower horn.
@HarlanHarvey76
@HarlanHarvey76 Ай бұрын
Hey, he didn't scallop it.... That's a win
@gunstarhero8028
@gunstarhero8028 Ай бұрын
The man knew what he wanted and he made it happen, more power to him
@geralltwilliams2811
@geralltwilliams2811 Ай бұрын
Well done Bob. A man that buys a guitar to be actually played and not a ornament on a wall
@martinheath5947
@martinheath5947 Ай бұрын
Because Steinberger tuning pegs don't stick out on either side of the headstock, could've angled both rows of tuners symmetrically inwards towards the centre line. Would've looked a lot nicer and worked perfectly.
@Hyperlink1337
@Hyperlink1337 Ай бұрын
he copied the tuners/layout tosin abasi uses on guitars he's co-designed
@supernoobsmith5718
@supernoobsmith5718 Ай бұрын
Steinberger tuners don't hold the plain strings well.
@ericgabriel485
@ericgabriel485 Ай бұрын
Trogley you forgot to mention the extra strap button on that first Les Paul…. On the horn side…
@phil8528
@phil8528 Ай бұрын
I have a Washburn wm200 which doesn’t have straight strings, basically the same headstock as the les Paul, and it never goes out of tune, and I bend the heck out of my strings all the time. This video is the first I’ve even considered it was an issue for others. I think people just make up reasons to complain about stuff not being perfect all the time.
@pat5882
@pat5882 Ай бұрын
Just remove the top screw from the truss rod cover, slacken the D & G strings. Then use a fender string tree and screw it onto the top of the truss rod cover. Route the D & G strings, then tune.
@davidfaustino4476
@davidfaustino4476 24 күн бұрын
No. That solves literally nothing.
@nieko3038
@nieko3038 Ай бұрын
Well that’s interesting. Funny I inly see people mention this with Gibson while there are more guitars with similar headstock layout. With a proper nut things are not that bad. Everyone their own I’d say.
@BobSperber
@BobSperber Ай бұрын
Not in the market - too many guitars to get rid of - but it never fails, once I click on one of your videos, I have to watch the whole thing. You’re great, man.
@Michael-oy3pz
@Michael-oy3pz Ай бұрын
Never seen that before….unique I must say 🎸🇦🇺
@the_nondrive_side
@the_nondrive_side Ай бұрын
the only way to "fix" one is to start with a neckbreak one and use a headless bridge
@jbrobertson2758
@jbrobertson2758 Ай бұрын
For a moment I thought I was watching Ridiculous Reverb Listings! Takes the cake for Useless Modifications.
@chopperdeath
@chopperdeath Ай бұрын
Banjo/Classical style tuners are so much more convenient. Way more.
@drebatista
@drebatista 26 күн бұрын
Does it djent?
@SQUONKZOG
@SQUONKZOG Ай бұрын
Even with the nut cut properly...it's not great for tuning stability.
@jaymax3201
@jaymax3201 Ай бұрын
Futura Tribute
@endrizo
@endrizo 14 күн бұрын
Gibson must do this. great idea
@Peron1-MC
@Peron1-MC Ай бұрын
i wish he did like an offset V formation. would look a bit better XD
@ckelly5141
@ckelly5141 Ай бұрын
Wait.....there’s more!🎸😝
@SparkyGoldsmith
@SparkyGoldsmith Ай бұрын
Cool, in the most nauseating ways possible. 🤣
@ibanezleftyclub
@ibanezleftyclub Ай бұрын
Goes though all that hassle, only to still have the butler give better straight pull Lolol
@davidfaustino4476
@davidfaustino4476 24 күн бұрын
Seems like a lot of work to avoid simply filing the nut a little bit.
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