Very cool 👍

Dr.mark.C.Ferris - what 😮 ! Do you mean HP is like another certain unmentionable 02 product that is prevalent after a thunderstorm? Be careful what you write here, some one might get offended 😮

Hi ! Do you have a link to a study or something for me to dig into it ? Thanks !

That is a cool fact, another one of God's design for creation. Gotta love that.😊

@@RTiff I completety concur!

That’s great to hear 👍

Very cool 👍

Wow... that's good info. But is it scientifically sound?

It will also kill gnat larvaes if you have a gnat infestation.

One of the best things I’ve ever done was adding ponds to my yard👍. I hope yours bring you as much happiness as mine bring me.

Thanks for sharing your experience

Bad things thrive in sugars and die from oxygen. Good things thrive in oxygen and die from sugars.

I’m the master of procrastination! Still got a bit of work to do on the research side 😉

Cool 👍

Hope it helps 👍

@@Ozponds Hi Kev Is there a formula for working out how much to add ie amount Hydrogen peroxide to litres of water?

There’s plenty of info floating around the internet. I put some common rates in the description. 👍

​@@Ozponds Thanks so much. Sorry I should have read the info earlier. Should have known you'd be on it 😀👍🏻

I think I’ll keep sodium percarbonate on hand, much easier to store. Thanks for the info 👍

@Ozponds if you believe that sodium and carbon are a d r y form of H2O Then that is evidence that you never did even basic chemistry at school. Beware of experts DYOR (Do you're own Research)

@Ozponds if you believe that sodium and carbon are a d r y form of H2O Then that is evidence that you never did even basic chemistry at school. Beware of experts DYOR (Do you're own Research)

@ozponds - Did you know that Chlorine gas was used in the first WW as a weapon to poison British troops ? My grandfather was gassed twice ! This led ultimately to his premature death. Medically proven fact. Check out the company who supplied it.

Robot reptile 4 - sodium percarbonate has no connection whatsoever with hydrogen or oxygen. It is a compound of Sodium and Carbon. "Dry form of hydrogen peroxide ????😮 Didn't you do chemistry at school ? I hope nobody mistakes you for an expert, it could be injurious to their health listening to people like you.

I appreciate the support 😊👍

Solid advice 👍

Me too. Fish died and the beneficial bacteria cycle crashed.

How much do you reckon is safe for a ten gallon tank?

Ericborling -someone else who has swallowed the hype and propaganda about hydrogen peroxide, like ozone h2O2 has free electrons/ions and needs to discharge them to become stable as normal oxygen , mammalian cells have an enzyme called superoxydismutase which protects the cell membranes, fungus and anaerobic organisms do not. Hence their effectiveness in killing cancer cells. Big pharma doesn't want the peons to know this. Oxygen is the breath of life....end of.

I didn’t know that. Super cool.

Humans make it too. It’s what turns your hair white eventually

Indeed they do. H202 is one of the reasons that honey is a good topical ointment for wounds and burns. It also contains pain reduction, anti-inflammatory, antioxidant and other healing qualities. Some types of honey, like Manuka, are more potent than others. It is now being used in hospitals and has been used for thousands of years by many cultures.

Undersized bog filter is on the pond with lots of buildup. I’ve often considered flipping it into a high flow filter, but my narrow stream couldn’t handle more flow, it would cause a leak. I really should just flush the bog more often.

I’d love to have a saltwater tank one day.

@@Ozponds I did too and thought they were hard but they are not really if you just know the basics. One of the easiest ways to make it easy is lots of biological media which keeps the nitrogen cycle very stable, and the most amazing secret of all time to that is zeolite for biological even though it's sold for chemical media, seachem denitrate has the best pore structure of anything for anaerobic bacteria to finish the nitrogen cycle turning nitrate to gas which makes it leave the tank. So putting a tonn of that into low flow very important it has to be low flow for the anaerobic bacteria to be able to live areas of the filter system is the secret and to seed it with a bacteria product that specifically states it has anaerobic bacteria. Said a lot but explain the why it's important. Then you only need to do water changes every few months just top off with filtered water that's how stable it is. So just throw in some sand, some fake rock so no pests and two cool types of designer clownfish you think look cool and say two bubbletip anemone and you got a simple but really cool tank.

I’ll keep you posted 👍

I look forward to hearing how it goes for you 👍

I’m in Ohio too and would love to hear how it went. I’m about to add it to my 2000 gallon fish pond and a 300 gallon waterfall feature.

No you need to remove it.

That is the worry whenever we tinker with the pond. I’d love to hear your experiences 👍

@@Ozponds I just poured the recommended dosage into the lake a minute ago. Let's see how it goes. Water temperature is around 11 C. Maybe this will slow things up a bit...

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@Ozponds 24h and the algea looks more or less intact, maybe a little lighter but ceartainty not white. Having said that, the water is crystal clear like never before. Not that it wasn't fully transparent, but I never saw it like this. Another interesting point is that snails and mosquito larvae that live there, as well as the Lotus plants, look normal and apparently unaffected. I will update soon.

Quick update: Algae look much weaker and more whitish but they are surely alive. I also took the opportunity to add some peroxide to an aquarium which was having some cyanobacteria bloom and they are dying quickly. My main conclusion is that there are probably some algae species which are quite sensitive to peroxide while others can resist to the regular dosage. Eventually all algae species will die given the proper concentration of peroxide but some probably resist until a point which is not safe for fish or aquatic plants. Since I have no fish in the pond, I might try again but with a higher dosage.

Let us know how it works for you 👍

Wow! That’s fascinating and terrifying at the same time.

Sounds good 👍

Cool 👍

I had a pond 20 years ago, and barley hay is what the guy from Aquascapes Pond suggested, as well. The garden center started stocking miniature bales of barley hay to tuck into the "bio-filter box", or set into the bio-falls stream. Worked like a charm. If there is one thing having a pond taught me, it was to have patience for the process.

But barley straw just works by releasing hydrogen peroxide into the water as it decays. So you might as well skip that, and have more control over the dose and rate, but just adding peroxide. It really just depends on what you have easier access to. Every pharmacy should have peroxide, and every pet shop or large supermarket should have barley straw, as it's used for rabbit bedding.

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My bad 😞I’ll do it right now!

All good mate, I was only kidding, if you don't like Australian History then your probably not interested anyhoots. @@Ozponds

I like all history 👍

I added you on my Home page in the featured channel section. I have a feeling you don't mind me doing that 😎@@Ozponds

This was just an experiment. My whole channel is about bogs/ natural processes/ saving money building and maintaining a pond. But thanks for the tips I’ll try and implement your suggestions 😉

You must be new to this channel.

​@@ie8443I was new too. This video gives a bad first impression. It's terrible advice. New pond keepers might see this and try it. 😮😮

All year I would guess. Give it a try and let me know how it goes. I had no issues with any plants.

What does the baking soda do?

@@Ozponds Always used it to work wonders on the Ph level in a safe and inexpensive way. I've also got a dense population of koi fish. Every time I treat with it, it also seems to help bundle up some muck and help it sink to the bottom- but you dont have that problem!

I was told baking soda stuns fish growth.

@@ronito346 That may be the most random thing I have ever heard lol. Like sitting close the the TV hurts your eyes kind of random.

Victoria. Hour outside Melbourne

I estimate this pond and stream system at around 5,000L (around 1000G). I thought I put recommended dosages in the description (I might be mistaken). Remember though every pond is different. Start with low dosages and monitor, increase if necessary.

@@Ozponds thank you so much for the quick response. I have a 5000 gallon pond so I’m gonna start with two bottles of 3% and I’ll let you know how it works out.

I’d love to hear your results 👍

I always was taught to add salt to my aquariums. It’s beneficial to the fish and puts minerals in the water. Tap water is stripped of lots of materials nasty and beneficial. In a pond we have lots of organics breaking down also minerals to a degree from the rocks and pebble. It certainly doesn’t hurt to add some salt. I recently got sent a water test instrument, it measures stuff like TDS amongst others. I’ll make a video on it and try and explain the things it measures and why people might want to know those numbers.

​@@Ozpondsvery bad for corydoras, which a lot of people keep.

I’ve used salt in my pond, the plants do not like it.

The salt? I have Cory sterbai for years. They must have adapted.

You have to use sea salt or pond salt, so far so good no problems using it but do not use table salt or cooking salt (iodize I think is not to be used) I heard about hydrogen peroxide in ponds but have never used it myself.

I don’t think so, at least not quickly. The iron will probably exist until the plants soak it up. The next issue is going to be that you’ll constantly be topping it up with the iron bore water?

Bugger...lve done some research and will get a quote for filter for my bore...failing that lll have to cart some water in...

Let us know what you end up doing 👍

@@Ozponds Hey Kev Happy New Year...positive news is that my pond has cleared snd is chrystal clear in only 3 weeks..lm assuming its the over sized Bog filter..lm snokeling every morning :) Q-what are some non invasive plants to put in the Bog and can l plant them direct or should the stay in pots? Im going to emaol you some pics.. Thanks Brad

⁠​​Pond looksd amazing! Thanks for your donation and sending me the pics😊👍. In my large bogs I have milfoil, bacopa, tassel cord rush, tree ferns. The tree fern is a trunk that re-sprouted, the rest are planted into the pebble. I keep them on the margins I don’t want them taking over the entire filter. Hope that helps.

Thanks for the tips 😊👍

Hydrogen Peroxide is a liquid, and high concentrations can be very dangerous when contaminated. Storage containers for high % H2O2 are pleated, like an accordion, so if it does become contaminated it will expand, preventing pressure buildup. Should contamination occur, immediately dispose of properly.

I noticed even the 3% solution expanded in storage.

Yes much cheaper ways to do it. This was the first time I used it on a pond. We have the 3% for cleaning around the house.

Nice 👍

"Food grade" is a poor label for the stronger peroxide it is. Food grade peroxide can be about 30% H202 and will certainly kill all lifeforms in your waters.

@@erickborling1302you can purchase food grade from 3% to 35%. 35% will burn your skin off. Food grade is a quality that can be ingested. Any % can be diluted using distilled water. Purchasing 3% food grade is mostly water and more expensive to ship verses buying 12% and diluting yourself. You are confusing your terms.

Gambusia are a pest species in Australia. The small fish in this pond are firetail gudgeons.

The button thanks you 😉 as do I 👍

I probably wouldn’t.

I’m not sure. Hopefully someone else sees your comment and can give you a first hand experience.

This was my first time using it, not something I regularly do. I left a good starting dose rate in the description 👍

Same thing. 👍

I’ve been using this for probably 15 years in my koi pond to keep string algae under control and alway with great results.

Maybe. Only you can make that decision.

I don’t really have a lot of algae this was just an experiment. All your tips are valid 👍

Now pair that with the old quote/adage that “constantly repeating the same thing and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity”..

I’d start with your 13ml see what happens. Then add as required.

Yes. That sounds good

I don’t know. I’m more pond focused 😂

Yes 👍

@@Ozponds thank you for all the help. I’ll let you know how it goes.

This is all true and I talk about this all the time on my other videos. Would we call hydrogen peroxide a chemical when it’s simply hydrogen and oxygen (same as water)? I’m also curious about its oxidizing properties. Does the nutrient level still exist? Having said that, I’m still experimenting and exploring the answers. But you are correct everything that caused algae in the first place still exists and the algae will return.

My understanding is, essentially what has happened is that you have stopped the algae living and it is now broken down and is in solution or has added to the precipitate on the bottom of the pond where it will probably break down further. The actual matter is still there and unless it is chemically bound in some insoluble or inert way (or removed) it will re-enter the nutrient cycle. Generally speaking, the algae requires CO2 while the things that eat it need O2. Aerating the water will help boost the O2 which might boost the things that eat the algae. I have always wanted to do an experiment along these lines. I have thought about making an aerator using an impeller like Jay Harmon's 'Lily Impeller' as well as building a 'Wilks Flowform'. A fellow who is doing something very interesting, effective and simple is David Pagan-Butler. He is building chemical free pools which use aeration and plants to keep them clean. He has a youtube channel - kzfaq.info The difference between water (H2O) and Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) is that it has an extra oxygen. Compared to H2O, H2O2 is very reactive and essentially corrosive to organic matter - it's the extra oxygen that does the work. Oxygen itself can be explosive in high concentrations in the presence of certain compounds, H2O2 is even more explosive. During WW2 the Germans used H2O2 as a component in the rocket fuel that powered the Me-163 rocket interceptor. In small concentrations it can be OK but in high concentrations it is quite volatile. Thanks for replying - I'll have to look at some of your other videos! ​@@Ozponds​

It’s all rather fascinating. I do understand that pure hydrogen peroxide is quite volatile, we need to remember though in this situation I used a 3% solution, it’s pretty safe. I love David’s channel and watch all his vids (I wish he published more). His “regeneration zones” and “bog filters” (which I use) are essentially the same. His use air and are down-flow, mine use pumps (I like streams) and are up-flow. Both are incredibly effective at growing large populations of different types of nitrogen processing bacteria.

Yes, it is fascinating. I have been interested in this type of stuff (water, fluid dynamics, aeration) for a few decades now. As with any chemical, concentration is a major factor and I agree that H2O2 is a much better chemical to use than many other options. I love the idea of aerating with a stream but my understanding is that it can be tricky to get enough turbulence to get sufficient aeration and pumping a heavy liquid uses more energy. I think DPB's solution is brilliant as it moves and aerates the water simultaneously. It would be nice to use both. Many years ago i designed a solar powered aerator for ponds but I was never able to build it due to the difficulties of fabrication with the minimal resources I had at the time. That is something I hope to get back onto in the not too distant future as accessible CAD, CNC, and 3d printing has made so much possible these days. @@Ozponds

I hope you do 👍

For sure 👍

That’s milfoil

Well yes. Chlorine will definitely kill algae and bacteria. Does she use it on her pond? With fish?

Yes! Her Fish (Goldfisch, koi, rudd, frogs) are fine.

Great to hear 👍

@@Ozponds it is liquid chlorine, the stuff for cleaning toilets

Thanks 👍

@@Ozponds No problems! I used to wonder about them a lot as well. Most of the real mayfly larvae i see in the riffles are much smaller, and often need a magnifying glass for my bad eyes.

Just an experiment. I have many videos taking about removing organics.

Only if I’m a good boy 😉

True. Seems a bit messy. You can get just the extract, but then it ends up more expensive.

also humic acid can take away chloramines if that was a consideration

@samsaraarmada it is in my pond, the water supply in southern California is horrible, contains chloramines, calcium and God knows what else😅

Barley straw did nothing for me, plus it is only good for string algae, not floating

True. This was just an experiment. I’d never dosed like this before only spot treatments on the waterfalls.

My thought is that it would work a treat. But I look forward to seeing what others think.

For a bird bath put 2 or 3 pennies on bottem. Literally a game changer no algae build up with pennies!

​@@tammydiedrich6674Thank you, I will try that. Hope our birds don't think I'm too cheap to use a dime ... 😂

Interesting. Are pennies made of copper? Copper kills algae.

@@tammydiedrich6674 Lovely. I will try that. The hawks splash most the water out. The ravens will love the shiny things!

Yes I should have mentioned the light we store our 20L tub in a black container to keep it way from light.

So cool! Thanks for your insights.

Very interesting

Yes. I’ve loads of vids on reducing nutrients, ect naturally. This was just an experiment.

Nice 👍

When used in low levels yes. It’s approved for use in aquaculture.

Sounds really cool

@@Ozponds I should add that I use it in very small doses and turn off my filtration for an hour or two after adding it. The oxydators are more for keeping the water oxygenated, I recently had a powercut for a week and managed to keep a lot my shrimp alive with the help of h2O2. And always check the product you are using is pure. I get mine from a pharmacy. Cheers mate, look forward to seeing the results on your pond.

If you’ve got concerns don’t do it. Or do more research first.

Yeap 👍

That is true.

The algae will constantly come back. You can continue to treat with peroxide as needed if you like. Remember the peroxide just kills algae it doesn’t stop the root cause of the algae.

@@Ozponds Thank you.

I really should 👍

Yea it should.

@@Ozponds got a load of ish in the pond. Its surely going to kill them?

If you have doubts don’t do it. Or at least do more research.

@@Ozponds yeah, I'll pass, thanks!

That interesting. Why didn’t it gain traction? As a replacement fuel.

Very interesting

That’s not good. That’s why you should start conservatively.

This pond I added the peroxide is quite young, there are plants but not a lot. I’m learning a lot from everyone’s comments. Thanks for sharing yours.

@@Ozponds no worries. I know from experience how algae can take over if you haven't got enough oxygenating pondweed in the pond. Here in the UK I use native plants like water violet to take care of that problem, and my water is beautifully clear despite having no pump (Being in partial shade helps too).

Sounds like a lovely pond 👍

@@Ozponds Cheers, yes it is. My only problem with it is water loss. I wanted a totally natural look so I blended the edges of the liner in with turf and mud - and I think that means the marginal plants are constantly sucking up water.

Shirts off Larry

Yes because this was my first time I wasn’t willing to attempt anything stronger.

I’ve just done a recording on sodium percarbonate, I think it’s exactly the same. I’ve still got to edit and publish but it certainly worked 👍

Sorry.

@@Ozponds sorry, sorry, ok your sorry, but never ever let it happen again or you get taken out to the wood shead and it wont be pretty....lolololololol

It definitely can kill bacteria but I’m believe that’s at higher dosages.

Just what works for me. No one says you need to do the same.

How can you say that? Hydrogen peroxide occurs naturally. It’s simply hydrogen and oxygen same as water.

It’s really cool stuff!