This HUGE problem threatens MacBook repairability for YEARS

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Most MacBooks from the last 6-8 years have a Retina display. These displays are beautiful and crisp, but they pose a huge problem for the future repairability of MacBooks as they age. In this video I'll outline why this problem is so huge and one potential loophole...
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@supersnapp 3 жыл бұрын

This is great. I just realized, this is one of the only channels that focuses not on new Macs, but on old Macs also. I wish I had known of this channel when I bought used computers in the past.

@maxroman2010 3 жыл бұрын

This channel is the reason I have my 2014 15” MacBook Pro. Got a really good deal on it. Love it.

@Sludgedragon 3 жыл бұрын

@@maxroman2010 I didn't know, when I got my mid-2012 MacBook Pro new in 2014, how special it was going to be. I just wanted the one that still had an optical drive. It's also the last one that a lot of things can still be replaced.

@Eddy_E. 3 жыл бұрын

He is focuesed mainly on old devices, the new devices are more or less a side thing...

@genesky61 3 жыл бұрын

A situation with Humans of this time period on this planet is if is important they say almost nothing. If not important then it's , blab , blab , blab , blab , blab

@jamesabdullah4334 3 жыл бұрын

If all else fails, you can always plug it into an external monitor and turn it into a Mac mini?

@Mainyehc 3 жыл бұрын

My dad broke the screen on a Mac just like this one by shutting it close with a stapled document inside, and that's what we're contemplating as a backup Intel machine as we transition to an entirely Apple Silicon-based set of Macs.

@Apollo26gaming 3 жыл бұрын

I was about to comment this.. yes, that's the ultimate way of extracting every bit of juice from that macbook

@jpdemer5 3 жыл бұрын

My first thought as well. Maybe better than a mini, because there's no separate box: your keyboard contains the computer. It's closer to owning an iMac, but without a full-size keyboard.

@NicolasSilvaVasault 3 жыл бұрын

That doesn't solve the main issue, you're justifying the root problem

@jamesabdullah4334 3 жыл бұрын

@@NicolasSilvaVasault no one is justifying it at all. It’s just on an economic standpoint, your choices are limited to either pay for the repair, body swap it, sell it for parts or use it as a screenless Mac. Bar selling it, it’s the cheapest thing you can do with a problem so financially detrimental.

@HughJeffreys 3 жыл бұрын

To think this issue wouldn't exist if Apple would just sell replacement parts... (large supply of replacement parts = cost goes down)

@MatchingUser 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, Hey Hugh! Just came from your Apple Watch video! Yeah, I agree, If tech companies just offered replacement components, repairs wouldn’t be so expensive. Unfortunately a part that might cost 80-200$ to build is being sold for 500$ just for it to likely happen in a few years time.

@Bluecolty 3 жыл бұрын

I sort of agree hugh but at the same time, companies have tried this and it doesn't fix the prices. You're certainly the dude who knows his stuff about fixing phones, and I'm sure with that in mind you've seen how expensive replacement Samsung screens are. Samsung for the most part is one of the better companies when it comes to pumping OEM displays into the market. But somehow they're also one of the most expensive when buying one. A good condition galaxy s8 screen here in the US goes for $160. An iPhone X screen goes for around $100. Both phones are the same age, and the iPhone should (in theory) be more because that's just the way it is with Apple parts. But its not. Its just wack to tell you the truth.

@valetdock9829 3 жыл бұрын

this guy is fool my mac 2015 had this issue and after 4 years in 2019 i got a free replacment

@sppss914 3 жыл бұрын

Apple wants the customers to buy new units instead of fixing those broken ones.

@bfapple 3 жыл бұрын

@@sppss914 I like Macs, and I agree.

@arlencarlson 3 жыл бұрын

This type of thing is not at all uncommon in almost everything in technology-the sum of the parts is almost always greater than the price of the total. Its a sad reality.

@davidthomas6949 3 жыл бұрын

You can understand why that is though, right? What is sad is the fact we dont boycott overpriced items to the point where the seller is forced to lower their price lest make no money at all. Ive been subject to those maret forces as a seller and Ive adjusted- why cant we subject bigger sellers to the same forces..?

@albeit1 3 жыл бұрын

There would never BE any used parts if this WASN’T true. Every product eventually gets cheaper to buy than what you can sell the parts for. Otherwise, there’d be no reason to buy it when the cost or repairing exceeds what you can get for it. People are willing to buy a high price for a part because they value THEIR machine more than the used market can. Because they have a lot more invested in their machine than the hardware. They’ve got software and data and it takes time to switch.

@davidthomas6949 3 жыл бұрын

@@albeit1 Very true, but still. Youd think that as parts gets older and older they would be cheaper, or at least the seller more open to negotiations. I think a lot of these eBay sellers have a LOT of whatever parts theyre selling and they lists doens if not more of these types of parts with massive inventories, and they are just willing to play to stubborn waiting game.

@Bewefau 3 жыл бұрын

because of business make it so we cant fix the shit.

@jansprenger8291 3 жыл бұрын

But Apple makes it more extrem because they're doing much to limit the supply of replacement parts.

@djdrwatson 3 жыл бұрын

7:40 Do it, we want to see this!

@TwanJaarsveld1 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@cyrilsli 3 жыл бұрын

me too

@beejaybertelsen 3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@mollyz2581 3 жыл бұрын

I agree too!

@FlyingPigChannel 3 жыл бұрын

agreed

@mikldude9376 3 жыл бұрын

When you think about it , making devices essentially throw away due to exorbitant part or repair prices , it makes apples claims/pretence of being a green company an utter joke .

@laurencegoldman4639 3 жыл бұрын

No offence BUT Louis Rossman has been ranting about this kind of thing for YEARS, including suing Apple for Right to Repair.

@JontyLevine 3 жыл бұрын

Good. We can't just have one guy speaking for everyone. If more KZfaqrs like Luke do this, then Apple might finally face some public pressure to do the right thing.

@JontyLevine 3 жыл бұрын

Apple don't have to sell the parts themselves. Their suppliers for those parts can and would sell the parts themselves if it weren't for the fact that their contracts with Apple _specifically forbid them from doing so._ Apple could easily become more repair-friendly by doing markedly _less_ than what they're doing now.

@jetpowerpasquale9828 3 жыл бұрын

Yes mr Ross man has been warning us since before the launch of this Mac - “right to repair “ it started with Apple but now Samsung has seen the potential profits to be made by forcing people to replace the whole item instead of allowing self repair ... so you now “rent the item” and pay extra insurance to cover repair at the price the company decides ...madness

@justindiffenderfer7484 3 жыл бұрын

At least there's hope. If channels like with with diehard Apple fanboys are even calling this out, Apple is going to have to do something eventually. They'll just wait for years and years just like with the butterfly keyboard issue.

@laurencegoldman4639 3 жыл бұрын

@@justindiffenderfer7484 Depends on us.

@lennyizekor809 3 жыл бұрын

You could treat it as a Mac mini. That would be cool!

@gp3328 3 жыл бұрын

I know some people with a macbook Pro with touchbar and they can't use it because some stupid kid knocked it over at my school and smashed the display, brand new, one week old, and destroyed. So I guess I could tell them they could do that.

@stewartkristiansen1705 3 жыл бұрын

I like to do that with my MacBook when I’m at a desk.

@bigsmurff55 3 жыл бұрын

Agree, just add a mouse, keyboard and external display and you have a functional desktop mac.

@cliess 3 жыл бұрын

This is an interesting idea and would make for a great video. It certainly "solves" the problem of the damaged display and given the RAM and SSD upgrade, could be a great fit. Plus, that MBP can officially upgrade to Big Sur.....

@davidthomas6949 3 жыл бұрын

or just use it as a laptop. Unless youre rendering videos, editing photos, or viewing either medium with some level of professionalism I dont see the issue. I use a 2012 Pro that has screen issues and its fine for me...

@satvikkhare1844 3 жыл бұрын

I bought 2015 13 inch retina MacBook Pro, Apple ran a program to replace the ruined displays and I got it replaced in late 2017 for free.

@garylazer-eyes6196 3 жыл бұрын

You have 4 years to do that, they’d charge you for that 2013 MacBook.

@timothymao1751 3 жыл бұрын

I got my mid 2014 15 inch mbp display replaced in 2018 for free, I was also informed that the program runs 4 year since the day purchased.

@adam_kyrouac 3 жыл бұрын

Luke is the coolest nerd I have ever seen

@Wanted797 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I was as cool as Luke.

@dominickmatta3536 3 жыл бұрын

And hottest

@Vocacash_ 3 жыл бұрын

@@dominickmatta3536 yeah

@nylotical 3 жыл бұрын

Geek>nerd

@TannerFixesTech 3 жыл бұрын

its great to see you touch on this issue. great video luke

@mtcald 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had the stain gate issue on a 13” Pro from 2015 and Apple replaced the screen for free because of the replacement program in 2017. About 9 months later, the new display was delaminated again. I hate it.

@leopoldbuttersstotch6060 3 жыл бұрын

luke, i got a used 2015 macbook pro with screen delamintaion and i was monstly able to wipe off the coating with some hand sanatizing wipes. theres just a tiny bit of dots near the middle of the screen, otherwise its all gone

@kman8628 3 жыл бұрын

I love the idea. I’m wondering if you’d consider making a video for those of us who don’t know what what the various parts are, showing us how to harvest the parts so we can save them?

@ZachAgape 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, that'd be super useful!

@ZachAgape 3 жыл бұрын

That's great Luke, keep it up! We need more people dealing responsibly with tech wastage😊

@lucisetumbrae 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video!

@yusufhalilovic2838 3 жыл бұрын

Threatens MacBook repairability.... that hasn’t existed for years son

@this.is.shashwat 3 жыл бұрын

facts

@icspawn 3 жыл бұрын

Luke: This HUGE problem threatens MacBook repairability for YEARS Me: I know dude. It's money right? Luke: Awwww

@valetdock9829 3 жыл бұрын

this guy is fool my mac 2015 had this issue and after 4 years in 2019 i got a free replacment

@LifewithKat2002 3 жыл бұрын

@@valetdock9829 how long did you have the issue before you were able to get the replacement for free? Was the issue there since you got the computer in 2015?

@donttalkcrap 3 жыл бұрын

@@valetdock9829 My late 2013 delaminated early 2015 and Apple told me it was out of warranty. So.... How is he (a) fool? And how do you equate him being a fool to you getting lucky? I'm guessing you are a pretty insecure guy. Which is why you have to get up on your soapbox and diss other people just to make yourself feel better. Poor you.

@nylotical 3 жыл бұрын

@@donttalkcrap exactly. You must be a fool to not get AppleCare.

@nylotical 3 жыл бұрын

@@donttalkcrap bro, are you projecting something?

@ginagrey5287 3 жыл бұрын

You teach us so much! Thank you!

@AndieMerchComia 3 жыл бұрын

The background music is great. The production of the content is great as well. More power.

@tsndr_ 3 жыл бұрын

It's actually going to get even worse since modern MacBooks can't even be fitted with a second-hand screen anymore, because the T2 chip checks for some kind of hardware ID and will refuse to work with any other than the original display the machine came with.

@birdman1265 3 жыл бұрын

Going to switch to Windows after whenever my early 2015 MacBook Pro dies.

@ORIOLESFan02 3 жыл бұрын

@@birdman1265 Try Linux lmao

@nostressyjessie 3 жыл бұрын

@@birdman1265 Seriously, if you are going to learn a new OS anyway, and aren't too interested in online games with anticheat, learn a linux distro. If you poked around in the mac terminal it is a linux like experience so that will be familiar-ish, and you can find one that has a mac like feel to it, so it isn't as hard of a transition. Of course, that all goes out the window if you NEED something like adobe tools like photoshop. GIMP is a good alternative but it is not photoshop.

@smbu 3 жыл бұрын

Well the T2 is only in 2018 and newer Macs. Also I believe that the screens just have to have been validated by Apple. I've swapped logic boards between two 13" MBPs (with T2 chips) and they both worked just fine after that. I didn't replace any parts, just swapped the logic boards (and touch sensor) between the two machines. (Each had a different keyboard layout; one USA and the other JIS, nothing else was wrong with them I just wanted to switch which machine had which keyboard layout.)

@whotfevencares 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidkorcak it's false for now. But we all know Apple. They "will" do it.

@ryanschofield2809 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see what you said at 7:40!

@chromaticvisuelle 3 жыл бұрын

That's just the TIP of the iceberg. I work next to people buying returns from Amazon. It's INSANE what goes to the bin.

@erich7048 3 жыл бұрын

Make a decorative MacBook lamp with the glowing logo, love that feature

@EltonC1 3 жыл бұрын

Do it Luke I want to see this. I’m sure others do too.

@modigady1 3 жыл бұрын

I feel a restoration video in the near future. 😂

@codeine5642 3 жыл бұрын

I really like the acoustic panels (probably that's what they are called) on your walls.... Love you bro...

@thejacob2099 3 жыл бұрын

I just wanna say your content is going to be better and better it’s amazing and I love your videos. Hope you will never end

@tristanskylark 3 жыл бұрын

2:45 using a heat gun can get rid of that partially

@kevindrake561 3 жыл бұрын

This is like buying car parts. It would cost way more to buy all the parts to build a car vs buying one new. Lol. Damn supply and demand.

@Kofi_Mensahs_BurnerAccount 3 жыл бұрын

Cars are different.

@maheenjillani 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you made this video! I think 2-3 years ago, my 2015 15in MacBook Pro display started to flicker randomly so I took it to the Genius bar who said it'll be almost $700 to repair. I was shocked that a 3+ year old laptop was gonna cost that much to repair. The worst part is this happened at the most inconvenient time too, it was finals week for me in school and I really needed my laptop. Long story short, ended up getting it repaired for free by them due to this being my second issue with the display (first one was fixed under warranty) and my need for the laptop due to finals.

@BryantAvant 3 жыл бұрын

I've fixed the delamination on a lot of customer computers. You use the disinfectant wipes (make sure it's not dripping wet but just lightly wet) and you take a few minutes of quick rubbing with a light pressure. The screen looks like new. I then put a screen protector on (the ones that cost a few bucks on Amazon) just in case. The first one I ever did, the customer brought it back for another issue a few months later and the screen still looked great even though I didn't put a screen protector on it.

@stuarthobbs4982 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2015 MBP 13”, in the UK, under consumer law apple replaced my delaminated screen, FOC in 2020

@applesunderthesun3240 3 жыл бұрын

So if mine breaks just fly to Europe and have it replaced POG

@hervecarpentierdechangy3269 3 жыл бұрын

@@applesunderthesun3240 It needs to be purchased in the UK to be eligible for Uk consumer laws.

@stuarthobbs4982 3 жыл бұрын

Aren’t consumer protection laws great, works for any electrical device.

@trevorlamb6351 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe turn it into a “server” that runs macOS Server to do caching, time machine backups, file sharing, etc. That’s what I do with my retired macs to increase their lifespan/usefulness.

@applesunderthesun3240 3 жыл бұрын

Yeeea Booooy Now were talking

@ghejnuni 3 жыл бұрын

I wish he does a video in the near future about it. I can imagine a lot of apple people would love it. I'm not using Mac, but Im pretty sure it's similar to Truenas or Ubuntu server. I use a freenas server at home, and I absolutely love it.

@martynhare8361 3 жыл бұрын

One could also run these devices as lidless work desktops by pairing them with a suitable monitors. As a bonus, they get a "built-in UPS" to protect against data corruption because they have large batteries which no longer have to power an energy-hungry screen. Keeping in mind that these machines ship with a 7 year support lifespan, even the old 2013 models could be re-used as thin clients to extend their lifespans up to the 10 year mark, depending upon how long Catalina will receive updates for, which should be until (Big Sur)+2 major version of macOS is released.

@ryanx3505 3 жыл бұрын

Luke, I want to see that video! Sounds like a great idea!

@DJ_I_Nine_Five 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate you Luke, this is my favorite anything Mac 💻 🖥 related channels

@catherinedesrochers 3 жыл бұрын

The sadness in all of this is that the waste issue will get worse with their new SOC architecture.. Which is why I hope Linux will be possible on them...

@ewaste9658 3 жыл бұрын

turn it into a cheap headless mac mini :)

@dooginator2008tx 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@alright272 3 жыл бұрын

yup, mac mini on steroids ftw!

@cunty 3 жыл бұрын

wonder if you could rip the display off and use the bottom as the keyboard and trackpad and just plug a monitor in. boom! computer with free keyboard and trackpad.

@don.timeless4993 3 жыл бұрын

Yah, but the owner bought a laptop because he/she want a LAP TOP! This Apples fault

@JonSchwark 3 жыл бұрын

Really liking this living room set.

@carlyleroad 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer that studio location to the wobbly wall - more visually interesting.

@Bernoeofficial 3 жыл бұрын

I literally was thinking about buying a 2015 MBP 13”, and now saw this video. I think i’m just gonna get myself a Mac mini

@davidthomas6949 3 жыл бұрын

If you get the laptop you can still use it AS a mac mini but not be limited to one spot... a funky screen isnt the end of the world and for that price.. forget about it.. here in Canada that 2013 sells for $750-800 all day long.

@coreyc6798 3 жыл бұрын

I own an early 2013 and a mid 2014 15 inch MacBook Pro and the displays need replacing and I found a replacement for $400 for the 2014 and $284 for the early 2013. But they are grade C. Honestly it isn't too bad.

@furiousdoe7779 3 жыл бұрын

That was Apple thought about you too.... buy a MacMini ! And they will screw you after 3 years again..by upgrading a software version that you cannot upgrade and will crash your MacMini .

@sebaez_ 3 жыл бұрын

WOW, I'm mind blown and I definitely want to see the experiment! (7:40)

@samcintyre0785 3 жыл бұрын

I just read about how to delaminate the the screen but I didn't think about liquid getting behind the screen. One site recommends making a paste using a baking soda mixture to delaminate instead of runny liquids. Now I see why.

@carmelotorres3234 3 жыл бұрын

I love your content by the way !

@CFC.NobarR 3 жыл бұрын

Should you get a screen protector when you buy a new MacBook Pro? Or is it pointless.

@ignxdank 3 жыл бұрын

no, it can damage the display

@dosdont 3 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of people running hackintosh's that would know what to do with that thing.

@TheMistyHorizon 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice video! I like that you take sustainability into consideration. :)

@quatele 3 жыл бұрын

Ran into the same problem with my 2015 MacBook Pro with cracked screen. Got a wireless keyboard and trackpad and cabled the HDMI port to my TV. Now it's my new home theater PC.

@ivaburug2473 3 жыл бұрын

I would love you to try and make it in to a all in one.

@riveraro 3 жыл бұрын

Apple politic : create a problem, sell the solution

@muddyexport5639 3 жыл бұрын

Had not thought of parting it out as mine (same year, etc.) I have routed the video out to an external display and I'm ok with that set-up as I no longer use it for portability. I also have a portable display that I use with my 3 Raspberry Pi SBCs that would also work if I wanted to mess with it. I keep the sale for parts in the back of my mind for future possibilities. Thanks and another good video!.

@ddruganov 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Luke, is it worth putting a screen protector on a macbook? Im worried about scratching it or delaminating it thanks!

@Mishina375 3 жыл бұрын

anoher option will be to buy water-damaged macbook and hope that the screen is ok ;)

@etoirandolph665 3 жыл бұрын

Please don’t misunderstand me. I respect Luke recommending the older MacBook Pros. I used to work for AppleCare and would get people that would be upset that apple doesn’t repair older MacBook Pros. I just wanted to provide additional information so that people won’t set their expectations too high. Great video 😎

@paulrawcliffe7452 3 жыл бұрын

My 2015 got called in for a battery replacement on a recall and the guy at the Genius bar wasn't happy with the screen so replaced it, that was 2019, it was a slightly different design, sort of more recessed so the keys don't mark it now. Very happy.

@carolynalison4997 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Luke, Thanks for another great show. I do want to see if you can use the parts to fix up another MacBook, so I hope you make that video. But I wonder, could this be a desk computer by adding a monitor and a few peripherals? I still use a 2013 iMac. It needs the Miani treatment!

@FubarMike 3 жыл бұрын

Apple is probably one of the most unsustainable companies out there that markets themselves as very sustainable and environmentally conscious. I guess their exceedingly high margins are just slightly more important though.

@bizmonkey007 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they’re full of shit when it comes to being environmentally conscious. They only use that argument when it allows them to nickel and dime consumers (not including chargers with iPhones)

@valetdock9829 3 жыл бұрын

this guy is fool my mac 2015 had this issue and after 4 years in 2019 i got a free replacment

@alright272 3 жыл бұрын

meanwhile, here i am watching on my late 2012 mac mini on windows 10 for no reason.

@davidthomas6949 3 жыл бұрын

Literally no reason. macOS is 5000x better in terms of UX, aesthetics, speeds... Patch BigSur and live your best life.

@samismydog 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidthomas6949 ...and Linux is even better

@sillyfarmerbilly8872 3 жыл бұрын

I like this background way better than the other one, please use this from now on

@andersalexanderandersen5022 3 жыл бұрын

My uni was throwing away 2 disfunctional Mac Minis from 2013, so I asked if I could get them instead, and they said yes. Long story short, I now have 2 additional PCs. Always worth asking!

@mapatep9033 3 жыл бұрын

How does the display become this way?

@techstuffz4883 3 жыл бұрын

Due to sweat on keyboard , I used a plastic sheet between the screen and keyboard to prevent it.

@InTeCredo 3 жыл бұрын

During the manufacturing process, several glass and plastic sheets, including the display, are glued (or laminated) together, but the manufacturing or material flaw causes two sheets to come apart.

@Ilkello99 3 жыл бұрын

Hook it up to an external monitor, that is how i use it in my office

@AndersCMadsen 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but clients really tend to look strangely at you when you walk into a meeting room with a trolley with a monitor and an extension cord on it... Oh, and yeah - I have the late 2013 13 inch version, and it's in the second screen and looking horrible. After 15 years as a Mac user I am moving the entire household to Windows and Android, and - to my surprise - it's a lot easier than I had ever thought.

@Ilkello99 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndersCMadsen meeting rooms tend to have monitors for presentation, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone making a presentation directly from his laptop. My MBP 2015 works great I am just using it with the external monitor for comfort. I hope windows/android setup works for you and your clients in the future then although saying you owned a 2013 MBP means it took 8 years to switch to other operating systems.

@NoName-bg2om 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ilkello99 Exactly, at my work they connect all laptops to projectors or tv's

@iCaveDave 3 жыл бұрын

Would you recommend buying one with a damaged display to use as a desktop with external displays in clamshell @Luke? Would that be a reasonable value?

@Amogh-Dongre 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't coz these degrade so fast that if u ever need to use the inbuilt display you're screwed

@jpdemer5 3 жыл бұрын

@@Amogh-Dongre How so? The display is ugly, but still functional, if you need to use it. It won't get worse over time.

@jamesblack5647 3 жыл бұрын

Ok, I subscribed, I’m hooked... how do I disassemble and part out my 2013 Mac Pro?

@rustynail9516 3 жыл бұрын

Let's not talk about the soldered ssd's ......

@bauddhikpokharna8861 3 жыл бұрын

Simply use it wid a monitor, I was kinda waiting till the end that you would say that, but you never mentioned it so yeah......

@talin7328 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, Make yourself a cool mac mini style desktop using something interesting as a case or a built in, in desk hidden device.

@jturbo26 3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree, and thats what I was about to write as a comment, but when I read the first few comments under the video, I saw yours, and I preferred agreeing. Its a clever kind of usage, when you can have the financial benefit of a cheap but faulty MacBook Pro with a screen like that, and spending 200 euros more to buy a nice monitor and make it a desktop computer basically.

@pedroonlyy 3 жыл бұрын

Very noble quest! We truly have to be more conscious about the way we handle our electronic waste. You've given me a great idea for what to do with my old MacBook!

@gregory891 3 жыл бұрын

Simply for reference, what is the retail price of a genuine Apple replacement screen?

@batsonelectronics 3 жыл бұрын

they don't make them anymore. only 2012 and Early 2013 assemblies work on the 2013 and Apple generally stops repairs after around 4 years, sometimes 5 years. If they did still make them, probably around $550 installed based on prices for newer models. Late 2015 is the oldest I could find that Apple would replace. ( late 2015 ) Late 2013 to mid 2015 should all use the same part. I have a late 2015 with a broken lcd. Not worth fixing since the machine value is only a few hundred above the lcd cost. I use it with a 27" Thunderbolt display as a desktop, I took the broken display off the machine.

@HellNaw98 3 жыл бұрын

Knowing Apple’s recent hypocrisy when it comes to environmental impact, it probably won’t be long before they start pairing MacBook displays to the original model they came on so you won’t even be able to swap displays from two identical MacBooks. I think this situation is quickly gonna get worse.

@InTeCredo 3 жыл бұрын

It's even worse with "vintage" and "obsolete" Mac computers. My 10-year-old iMac 27" still runs beautifully, and I see no reasons to replace it. Unfortunately, Apple's idiotic decision to use AMD Radeon 5xxx GPU really restricts me to High Sierra. Mojave, Catalina, and Big Sur can be installed and run, but lot of apps that use Metal engine cannot display anything, including Apple Maps. The solution is to replace the GPU with ones from 2011-2012 iMac (about €150 to €300) and flash the GPU to work with macOS.

@AJPark-xw7zr 3 жыл бұрын

wait, i can make a business then.

@etclocationsound6278 3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see a parting out video but, please include an accounting of all the time involved - disassembly, researching pricing of each item, photography, writing up and posting the listings, keeping track of the listings, communicating with buyers, gathering packing materials, printing shipping labels, trips to the post office, etc. It really adds up and should be factored into the worthiness of such a project.

@danielstark7096 3 жыл бұрын

Yes!!! I want to see you try that!

@rmking_beats 3 жыл бұрын

You could dock it as a desktop or something...

@don.timeless4993 3 жыл бұрын

Yah, but the owner bought a laptop because he/she want a LAP TOP! This Apples fault

@mxsailor1 3 жыл бұрын

Plug it into an external monitor. They’re cheap and plentiful.

@kyleboss 3 жыл бұрын

Great idea. I just bought one on a beer on eBay for like $300 that’s a 2015 and starting to D laminate and I could care less because I’m going to buy a brand new MacBook at some point but I want this just to have Intel in the house and I rather have a Mac than a PC and I can use it for whatever my VR and stuff but you just connected to a display in your perfect

@RLfilmz 3 жыл бұрын

Kinda defeats the purpose of a laptop

@angeluscorpius 3 жыл бұрын

This is what I would do, too.

@jansprenger8291 3 жыл бұрын

You're speaking directly to my soul watching the video from my 15" MacBook Pro, that was once soooo expensive.

@edshotsdotcodotuk 3 жыл бұрын

Sold my 2014 Retina 15 to a friend just at the end of last year. Thank goodness I got the delaminated display replaced just before they cancelled the program a couple of years ago.

@etoirandolph665 3 жыл бұрын

It’s not a problem, it’s just apple’s policies It’s vintage and apple will not repair anything vintage unless you live in California and by law that state is the exception. I also had a mid 2015 13 inch MacBook pro with staingate. I used a micro fiber cloth and headlight cleaner and it removed the stain.

@casperes0912 3 жыл бұрын

Louis Rossmann would disagree with the economics on repair, hehe

@triforcelink 3 жыл бұрын

Because he’s the one that ends up paying the high price tag on the parts

@anng1748 3 жыл бұрын

I own that exact computer and I love it. Unfortunately, the battery needs to be replaced because it doesn’t hold a charge very long and the sound coming through the speakers is very muffled. Apple no longer makes the battery for this model. I tried checking with a few consultants who discouraged me from replacing the battery even if I can get one. I am able to use the computer plugged in and get better sound with the use of earphones. My question is: Will using the computer constantly plugged in harm it or even worse will it become dangerous? Will it eventually just stop functioning?I would like to keep it a little longer if possible. I just bought an iPad to reduce my use of the computer for non-essential tasks. I am also backing up the computer to a time capsule regularly in case it just stops functioning. Would appreciate any advice. Thanks!

@RWL2012 3 жыл бұрын

The new studio setting is great!

@Smart.Potato 3 жыл бұрын

Moral: Mac resale value is good.

@ustradingdiary 3 жыл бұрын

But with m1 chip. Past Intel chip macbook will drop like crazy. Those who bought used will regrets. Prices of used will eventually drop fast.

@gp3328 3 жыл бұрын

Luke my man, how do you threaten something that's existence is on it's death bed?

@antfirmin 3 жыл бұрын

I have that 2013 MacBook Pro, exactly the same spec and same screen delamination and a shot battery as well, so I closed the lid and plugged it into the wall socket, attached an external monitor and it is still a beast of a computer.

@JoseTheRover 3 жыл бұрын

Great adviser brother

@jessicawilson8240 3 жыл бұрын

“Non functioning” ummm the MacBook clearly still works just fine. I’d happily deal with a slightly messed up but still perfectly functional screen for that sort of a bargain.

@TheWarrrenator 3 жыл бұрын

Again the problem is capitalism. Also are going to ignore the blinking backlit keyboard?

@TheTapMusic 3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure that’s a camera frame rate issue and not actually an issue with the MacBook

@NickMagnuson 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks to you Luke I've been refurbishing old unibody MacBook Pros as a side hustle, and also for my own personal use. However, I picked up a 2014 15" MacBook Pro with 16gb of RAM recently on Craigslist for $375 that has this peeling issue. My thinking is for that price I'm just going to live with it, and it is still great as my new every day machine. Thankfully it becomes a lot less noticeable when the display is actually on and I'm using it. To me it still feels like a win. I appreciate all you do. :)

@Stephen_A. 3 жыл бұрын

Kind of digging the living room as the background instead of the geometric background, especially no flicker light. 😁

@_kat1c 3 жыл бұрын

First time this early

@gastypm 3 жыл бұрын

Ugh, I know the pain. I'm using one of those Late 2013 15" Macs and the screen had some problems for a while now. Display assemblies are SO expensive and finally gave up. I've spent years with a usable but damaged screen since this machine is really good and didn't want to upgrade, but sadly replacing the screen it's too expensive.

@HughRussell06 3 жыл бұрын

My friend’s dad is in a similar situation, he has 2 mid 2012 15” MBP’s and while one is perfectly fine, his second one has a broken screen hinge and likely needs to be replaced.

@tekiro 3 жыл бұрын

Wow I have the same one. The screen just died on me. Everything else works if you hook up to an external monitor. Should I part it out? What do you think?

@InTeCredo 3 жыл бұрын

Love the new background and colour tone! Really calming effect. By the way, I bet the guy that sold you this MacBook Pro must be regretting his decision big time...

@satyakaamkatznelson8915 3 жыл бұрын

How bad is the display image? All we saw was the Home Screen. Is it really messed up or viewable with some distortions?

@TechVidK 3 жыл бұрын

I am excited to see the next video on this channel, also the truth about these computers is sad they just get thrown out, I still maintain and clean my first ever laptop, and if anyone else reads this make sure you maintain old computers too, you never know when they will be useful until you've thrown them out.

@Miphen0707 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Luke. I am not an Apple user however, could a monitor be added to the laptop and thus it would be more like a desktop computer, but still making it useful ?

@GJeremiah 3 жыл бұрын

Really thankful for how reliable my early 2013 13 inch retina MBP has been. Bought it eight years ago. Battery still holds 6-7 hours of charge if I'm just doing light work (was 4-5 until I recently repasted the CPU). Screen got loose but I tightened the screws so now that's good as new. No delamination (screen still looks great even by today's standards). It's still my daily driver and is rock solid. I'll be very sad when it finally kicks the bucket.

@CarlRyds 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2013 13” MacBook Pro that had this issue, Apple changed the display assembly under a replacement program, but that screen did the same thing about six months later (Apple’s warranty on repairs is 90 days) and they wouldn't replace it again For free, so I just have it plugged into a monitor instead, but it's still annoying.

@TNinjas 3 жыл бұрын

What a coincidence I have the same issue but with a 2019 16inch MacBook Pro :( screen doesn’t work but still functioning top case. Not a lot of inventory for screens or they’re really expensive. Great video Luke!