they get their shovel out and go even lower

so like rolling a nat 1 in DND?

@@ImSlipperyy I don't know, but I didn't think a nat 0 was possible in DND but man did they sure accomplish that.

Why do you think everyone want Microsoft to buy it We really dont want bobby

@@ImSlipperyy not quite sure, I talk to women

They were too busy with harassing female employes lol

@Nadrieth: Yeah, but don't you guys got phones?!?!?! I'm sorry, but at this point Blizzard is known for major fuck ups....

TF2 players: First time?

That's not really what happened. OW1 was dead regardless because it didn't have viable monetization since loot boxes were rewarded faster than skins were added to the game meaning no one actively playing ever had to buy a box. The changes and overhaul to PvP under the guise of a OW2 title was really nothing more than a way for Blizzard to justify restructuring the monetization. As for the PvE itself anyone who knows the history of OW shouldn't be surprised. For one Destiny does everything that was promised but better and its not exactly the most lucrative franchise. OW is basically a recycled project from an already failed MMO Titan. OW1 PvE was basically a gimmick with little to no replay value. So the idea that a non-loot based FPS RPG was magically going to have amazing content and replay value was nothing but Jeff Chaplin's pipe dream failing for the 3rd time.

By what metric has OW literally ever been a game of the year? Compare it to any wow expansion and it's basically the redheaded stepchild...

YES EXACTLY. I wouldnt be surprised if a mass quitting By angry devs happened at blizzard.

@@Crowned_Hearts we already had that, they even released "crisis maps" of things they couldn't work on anymore due to everyone leaving.

Those systems most likely never existed.

​@@FenexDragonisThey did, they put out beta invitations for the PVE for some people to play. Too bad they don't exist now!

@@FenexDragonis They did lol. I've talked to an old friend who worked at Blizzard for the last 6 years, matches up with everything that the other dev(s) leaked online of the execs scrapping A LOT of shit because "The ROI isn't worth the investment when we're clearly making a lot of revenue with the new 'Battle-pass' system." Such a joke of a company.

The higher-ups probably just realized the development time is not worth spending money on anymore, when the 20$ per pop skins in the shop are much more valuable to make.

"doesnt meet our expectations" is meaningless corpo speak meant to try and cover the fact that they're canceling something because it's expensive. the expectations in this case are, won't make a quick half billion dollars at launch

For everyone that hopped on the game for the promise of PVE, they basically dangled a carrot on a stick over them, hoping they'd eat up the microtransactions and overpriced skins, and only when they've milked them dry of patience and money, they get off and throw them off a cliff.

More like "Do we deliver what we promised like we cared about anyone? Or do we get even more money for the 7th vacation house in Monaco at the expense of our customers and employees?" dilemma that big companies execs seem to have oh so frequently these days when people are worried about silly things like "having rights" and "being happy" instead of worrying about the real problems like "filling our pockets (and only our pockets) with money"

@@pringles_mcgee It's not a cover up, it's exactly what it means. A cost and benefit analysis.

It's even worse, they have the amazing ability to *make* good things and then ruin them.

As if their stuff can be considered good in the first place

My farts are better than Mogul Mail’s farts.

microsoft literally just bought them...clearly its their call

is there even anyone left of the original blizzard team?

Kind of experiencing this situation right now and you really put it into words

this is profound

This actually happened to me and I can relate with it so much lol

This is a really good way to put it.

Yikes... this is an accurate description.

They definitely WERE working on it The problem like you said was that PVP suffered, and the massive sunk cost that is the OWL was threatening to implode and sue blizzard for mismanagement. So they caved and released OW2 PVP on a desperate hope it would bring revenue to the league and get the franchises who had spent tens of millions of dollars for a spot off their back. But it didn't work, and releasing the 3+ years of development on PVE is any state is the exact smoking gun franchise owners and VCs are looking for to claim damages when the entire OWL collapes inevitably

​@Cameron Ken yeah we should feel sympathy for the giant company that decided to change lootboxes for something even worst and their excuse was, "well, it was your fault guys, you like pvp too much so we want to focus on that first", episodic story bits is what fucking mobile games do

@@danielcruz4960 battle passes are 10x worse than loot box's especially since battle passes are in pretty much everything now

from what i've seen they where working on pve and the decision to scrap it was a decision made by execs and not by people working on the game

@@XgoodbyeX That is outright incorrect dude, RNG loot boxes are one of the worst aspects you can add to a video game, taking hundreds, if not thousands of pounds for someone to obtain what they wanted from them, and in some cases i.e Battlefront 2 launch, being an integral part of the game and making it pay to win. At least with a battle pass you can see exactly what you’re getting with no gambling aspect.

I bet you 100% he jumped ship when he realized there's nothing he could do to save his baby.

@@Goldy01 could not agree more

He already knew this was going to happen for years, why do you think he left? If Jeff stayed, everyone would be absolutely tearing him a new one right now, but instead you’re sympathizing with him-so it worked.

if anything leaving was a good decision

@@user.Icarus The guy wasn't hurting for money. It's obvious that once he lost total creative control he jumped ship. Only thing keeping him there was his passion for making things he personally enjoyed.

It's because it doesn't make them as much money as battlepasses and $20 skins

​@@AveryHyena I beg to differ, make a good PvE mode with the live services and you'll sell more battle passes and skins. There's a balance and they indeed thought it wasnt worth it.

Because campaigns cost money, why do that when you can make a shitty game with microtransactions instead and earn the same or more? It has really ruined the gaming experience.

​@@thereinaldo1999 first of all he said campaigns not pve modes. Second of all you can't name a single fps game as an example. Third of all you can't name a single game as an example that also focuses on pvp

@@Mythicalgoon destiny 2

i feel u :(

Mhm, feeling it with Apex atm

Wait till you hear about world of warcraft haha

It really sucks..

Reminds me of destiny 2 😅

You say that but that was a problem only for the people who only played ow1 after most people stopped after the first 2 years since it got boring and bigger games were getting released

@@XgoodbyeX Not exactly. It's a problem with the company if nobody is playing your game while working on a new one. If OW1 completely died, OW2 could've flopped harder.

It helps if you don't sell franchise spots for your game for tens of millions And then announce its pivoting to focus on PVE as the league you made is failing leaving you liable (or at least legally exposed) for the losses of the franchise participants forcing you to literally cancel major parts of your own game to cover your ass

Well most games are dishearting lol fortnite exists to fund unreal engine pretty much

same, it's almost comedic how years ago, some of us dreamed of working for blizzard, riot, EA etc and day by day these franchises destroy their image so badly you don't even want to work for them anymore, let alone for an entry or internship position

@@XgoodbyeX Fortnite is actually a well developed product though. Even Unreal manages to listen to fans. "Hey we hate the building mechanic it's really dumb with a steep learning curve and limited pay-off for your average player" and they released a mode with no building, which drew in so many players. Was the best season they ever did, statistically. It's so easy to to well as a company, which is why there is zero sympathy when Triple A fucks it up.

​@Lucifer Morningstar 🅥 no

Well, the game now has way more micro-transactions than before, so they probably know that the wasted money will eventually "come back".

The question of whether it’s really been in “development” for five years, or if people behind the scenes were just screwing around should be raised here. I mean seeing the trailers/presentations for overwatch 2 it seems they were blowing money on stupid stuff nobody really cares about like new gunshot noises or PR hype with animatics that were better than the games could ever be

This is the second time they've done this. They rushed a a 2.0 version out to justify a change in monetization for HOTS, it didn't work, and a few years later the game went into maintenance mode. If they decided to stop developing the PvE for OW, they likely already decided to let the game die slowsly in the next 5 or so years.

@@Wolfram___ Overwatch is more important that HOTS though

Yeah the only company with a long list of the best games is bad… Diablo StarCraft and Warcraft… what company is more successful and provided you with better?

@@KevinSorbo. those are best? in what world lmao

@@shhhota ur name checks out u must've been born yesterday

@@KevinSorbo. Yeah and they've managed to fuck up with two of these...and the reason Starcraft isn't terrible, is because they've stopped touching it and there's no SC3...yet.

@@shhhota in what world is there a company with a better line up of games… as I typed the first time… I didn’t seem to type that they were the best games… but even if I did I would stand by that because these are 3 of the best games ever made

There's a rumor going on that the latest april fool's gamemode was made mostly by repurposing hero abilities from pve. If that's true, it's truly heartbreaking to realize that you've been working hard on a project for the past 3 years only to end up as a literal joke because there's no other chance to make people at least experience it once

Allegedly they actually stopped working on PvE over 2 years ago and they already knew they'd never release PvE when they launched OW2. It's been abandoned for years, they were just lying to people to try and inflate player numbers.

Why? So we can laugh at you more? The fuck do you think we will do? Blizzard needs to close tye doors of its rape Palace

I am one such outsider

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literally

They were working on PVE for years, it's ridiculous to think they were lying They just can't admit how much work they did because they neglected the PVP and their hundred million dollar franchise league collapsed and every VC involved is jumping at the bit to sue blizzard for tanking the esport

​@@cjkmelee This. It's entirely because blizzard is having to pay out millions to cover losses they incurred to people who own franchises who are blaming blizzard for moving the focus away from PvP. It's like if McDonalds said they were pivoting away from selling burgers and would instead be turning into a milkshake based business model. People might be excited for that, but the people who franchise McDonalds would be really mad about the fact their investment is being destroyed overnight.

Watching the microtranscations print money. The whole industry is a pay-to-win simulator. That’s it. That’s all gaming is. Don’t game if you’re poor, it’s not going to be a fun experience.

@@cjkmelee oh they were 100% developing things, i don’t doubt they were working on it. but if we’re to take their words at face value, they kept trying to make something work that didn’t. it just seems like such a waste.

They got their paychecks. Most contract workers don't give a shit about the people that contracted them, as long as the checks are on time. That's every industry in the world.

@@Michael-bn1oi meeehhhhhhhh, I'm a creator myself and if I was told I spent the last few years animating a bunch of different characters and drawing thousands of pictures and doing voice impressions all for nothing... then I'd be really really really sad. Yes it's an industry and yes they got paid for it... but for creative people like voice actors, I have a feeling the money only helps so much when the work you did was so personal

So they could get some battlepass money from the hype before it ran out

More like the final phase of the end. Owl will probably end after this season or next, then they will announce no further development of the game

@@mitchellsalazar6276 ya fr i was watching OWL for the first time this year (the pro am and stuff) but now i’m just dropping it because what’s the point if they hadn’t gotten into esports i feel like this never would’ve happened

@@TheVercci and I fell for it, I hate myself, they literally lied to everyone, fuck that

Beginning of the end? Dude, OW ended many years ago, when Activision-Blizzard higher-ups forced Jeff to make a sequel instead of an update/expansion.

Yeah sadly the times where any publisher annoucing something was exciting are long gone, thankfully enough great games still gets released over the year and I'm not even talking about indie scene which is better than ever.

Dont hate they developers tho they aren't the ones manking decisions its the higher ups who decide

Thats why indie developers and compannies are 🔛🔝

Blame the soulless execs at the top of the chain who only care about chasing infinite profits, the health of the game or the people working on it be damned.

WOW you're sensitive lmfao

play games where you can duel, honestly, takes away 100% of the reasons why you dont play online matchmaking games.....

Like myself 😢 havent played in since ramattra came out, he was… not fun, I don’t know if they fixed it now but how did that shit where you fight the other ramattra 1v1 for potentially minutes on end get through testing? To me it felt like they stopped trying as hard on game balance.

All the old devs got sexually harassed or were the harrasers and left

You cant develop triple A titles at home. Wfh has killed good games

​@@HydrogenicHydroxy blizzard just fucking sucks bro

​@@lewisnorden3744 Women ruin everything as always. Go woke go broke

Man this brings back a memory to me. A furniture store I lived near in Washington would do this. Once a year, they would do a big closing sale. And then just rebrand and keep selling furniture.

This is an underrated analogy.

it's more like damaging the furniture beyond repair and still trying to sell it like nothing changed

@@Quixahtic omg this is crazy but are you talking about the one in tukwila-ish or are washington furniture stores just menaces..........

Isn't overwatch free

they are getting sold to microsoft so they wont. ever

That's why blizzard is flailing so hard If they have to pay out hundreds of millions in the aftermath of the OWL it could be a critical blow to the company It's why they wanted to sell to Microsoft so bad They basically minted an NFT (OWL team spots) and drove the price to zero after promising it wouldn't. And large wealthy powerful VCs are fucking mad

If blizzard is about to go bankrupt they will just rerelease WOW a third time and people will eat it up.

Blizzard? Bankrupt? After all the profits from their disgusting marketing strategies? After preying upon diehard fans and people with gambling problems? I don't know about that. I do hope for it too, though. They need to go bankrupt and Kotick needs to go to prison, but it won't happen without a miracle.

I doubt they’ll go bankrupt, but I hope Microsoft’s acquisition happens and they clean all the crap inside ABK

basically: play tears of the kingdom BABY

​@@hunbi1875 trueee so much scepticism just for it to silence the doubters

Who left?

Jeff

I don't think this is the case. Developers can not do "just nothing" when working. Jeff was a lead developer too, so he wouldn't pick if someone didn't do anything. I feel like you are still a young person?

@@irissupercoolsy jeff was the vicepresident of blizzard and the lead director of overwatch (which basically means the whole development of overwatch was directed by him)

@@kuma8030 ah okay, I just went with what they said in this video

My farts are better than Mogul Mail’s farts.

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@@p-__ What?🔥

same

​@@Brutalic Dumb ass bot

the whole triple A sector is just a huge mess, there is almost no reason to support those games

@@overdev1993 It's really funny how we are in a position where we basically have to choose either a: companies who put on a nice face to try to appeal to audience but then fail to make a game, or B: Everyone hates Nintendo's method of treating it's player base, but god damn do they know how to make games (Pokemon Company not included)

Everywhere I look I hear that the software industry is moving at a fast pace, a window opens to capture a market once that window closes it's gone or it's hard to break into. It's not that they don't know how long it will take to make a good, 97% finished game it's that they believe if they do it you'll no longer be excited to play it. Someone would have made a prototype of the announced idea, ideas can't be copyright, the prototype by this group, let's call them A will be buggy, you'll give feedback and A will fix problems over a long period of time such that once B release theirs it will be termed "old". Also investors don't want to wait long for an ROI.

I work in the game industry and that's how it is. The development cycle isn't dictated by developers and HR is working against workers. It's an unfortunate situation because there are some great triple A games with monumental talent squandered by a hostile working environment.

Greedy execs just want to show growth on a balance sheet so they can impress their new company when they bounce

Or better idea, quit and switch to a game that isn't burning to the ground

Yeah, overwatch is certainly a franchise I can stand behind

It's not really overpromissing tho? OW2 barely have any changes on the dev side, most of the changes are model and graphic, which a company like Blizzard can finish in maybe a few months. They have shit tons of money and staffs to get it done, and based on the demos they've been showing, they got most of it working. Like I'm still pretty sure the game still fail top down starting with poor executive decision (probably worsen by the breastmilk controversy), but overpromising don't seem to be a key failure here

Almost 4 years …

I bet you anything they made so much content that blizzard just couldn't figure out how to monetize therefore threw into the bin

Not to mention that this "big hype" rush in 2019 was immediately followed by the Hong Kong backlash, the entire COVID pandemic, sexual harassment lawsuits, etc. It was probably the worst timed moment in video game history to announce a sequel.

This just makes it worse. "Wow, a project you've been working on for extremely long times and passion put into it? Canceled." This is such a lose-lose situation

They SACRIFICED everything and then its cancelled?! What was that OW1 content drought supposed to be?! No, youre not back overwatch, you better go to the grave

@@3takoyakisExactly. That’s the worst part. All of this time and effort they put into it, just to throw it all away instead of trying to get something out.

Blizzard needs a new set of higher ups, they are clearly too money greedy and don’t envision the game the same way Jeff does. Jeff saw a world of emotion and commentary on many things, the higher ups saw it as a cooperate cash grab.

@@P.H691 That is unfortunately how a lot of these games are going especially in the last 5-6 years, beautiful ideas, beautiful art, great gameplay, people are making truly good things in the gaming industry that are over and over again being bogged down and even killed by corporate giants, it is ludicrous. I have not been impressed by a single AAA title in years upon years. They are progressively getting worse and worse, rushed out earlier with poor optimization, a lack of content, ridiculous cash grabs, more and more DLCs that become damn near required for the full experience, hell even the base prices of new video games are on the rise, from 40-50 dollars, up to a common 60, now reaching up to 70 and 80 for some base games.

@@upsidedownpyramid7617 It sorta explains why there's a raise of indie developers making beautiful games (which a ton of stinkers as they don't put enough attention in them). Indie developers aren't held back by circumstances like cooperations or money, they have a vision and they take as much time as needed to create something. I think a head of nintendo explained it best. A late game is a good game, but a rushed game will forever be a rushed game (I think I butchered it, but it's online somewhere)

It is free to play, but at this point the players better just let it die...

@@Goldy01 it may be free… but it’s still not worth the price! XD

Clearly, the whole premise of a sequel was a complete lie from the start. They never intended to actually make another game, they just had to make an annoucement to hype people. So they announced a fake game. This is comproved by the fact that OW1 was no longer playable after OW2 released. Because it's the same game, reskinned. Just an update.

From what I heard, they changed to a completely new engine and art style, causing them to have to basically rebuild the game from the ground-up. So yeah, we did basically get nothing, they spent all their funds and time on switching engines rather than making content.

@@palea1335The engine was upgraded but was not entirely new, Overwatch 2 reused the OW1 assets, the download for it was les GB if you had 1 still installed

Well they turned it into F2P Microtransaction model. Which is clearly what they wanted from the start. Just to get more money. I have to say OW1 lootboxes were not that bad compared to what it is now. Not to mention that new characters were unlocked the moment they were released... not locked behind a bloody battlepass.

What was the point of the engine rework. My understanding is that the engine was reworked to support pve but if that not happening then what was the point

Truly one of a moba moment of all time

Blizzard, riot games, every battlepass shit skins that cost 100$ when the game isnt updated for months or any new content basically

@@hazedays3584the issue with that is, as terrible of a company Riot is, Riot delivers. As bad as their practices are, their marketing team and content go so fucking insane at making League and Valorant look good. Blizzard just REFUSES to sink any money into any project for long-term goals. They saw they could literally do whatever to WoW for a decade and still rake in money and stagnated. No desire for a good advertisement, no want for a good competitive scene, no support for content creators, an actual 90’s company playing pretend in today’s market.

@@VVheeli i just got too dissappointed with every big game company recent years except stuff like elden ring, im only looking forward to the announcements of smaller ones, the difference between companies trying to squeeze out as much money as possible out of as little content as possible compared to indie companies which just give you a full product with a final price and no in game purchases is mind blowing to me now

Well that would require them to actually deliver something though..

100% the fault of players and will keep on happening. I am SO glad gamers are getting a hard slap in the face for, again, allowing these stupid companies to fool them. HAHAHA. More half-baked games! More fake promises! More monetisation! Milk the stupid piggy that will keep on giving you money!

I honestly am not even surprised. There are fewer companies I trust less than Blizzard. That being said I would have loved to see it come to fruition.

If your excited about story mode you still get that it’s only the PVE thats scraped

I gave up on Overwatch years ago when they just quit updating the game. They justified no more big updates because they were working on the story mode. Now they cancelled the story mode. Blizzard had the hero shooter genre in the palm of their hand and just wiped their ass with it.

@John Wick 🅥 its funny how the people that send links "making fun of bots" are also bots

Like Diablo IV?

Diablo IV

can't blame em when their fans would follow them anywhere.

@Dark0ul well something similar is coming in season 5.

same man. i was 12 when i started playing and now i'm about to turn 19 and being someone who pretty much has played this game every day since i was a kid, seeing it crumble into dust is so saddening

That’s how they get you. Let it go already. If you don’t, they will never learn…

It definitely wouldn’t have become a GOAT game lmao. It fell off a while ago and a PVE game mode would never have saved it. Still sad either way.

" the irreversible damage they did to this game" you put it in words perfectly. They killed my game, there is no going back and it breaks my heart...

"Your worst sin is that you've destroyed and betrayed yourself for nothing"

You gotta understand them , they were too occupied with stealing milk , groping and black mailing.

This is so fucking painfully true, it hurts..

Can't be disappointed with bad game changes when your game has none huh buddy

hey it's not blizzards fault valve lets their cashcows starve to death

Blizzard: I don’t usually kill morons this fast

@@dahliasmiles7122 Wdym us TF2 players get a new set of AimBot Bots every other week. Truly Game Changing adjustments from Valve.

An entire player community had to switch games since the original title’s server were shut down, abandoning a perfectly good game, to a sequel with more restrictive gameplay, more pay-to-win features, terrible support system and didn’t even the story mode was launched. OK, the release was terrible, but with the game being consistently being updated, that could’ve been fixed. And with promise of the PVE coming eventually, I thought I could bears a few problems. But these news essentially killed the game for me! The game is dead! They broke their promises! I am going to return my game to them and get my refund.

They knew around release time already that they were scrapping it, yet were promising it to welcome new players to buy their battle passes meanwhile they wait. It’s so scummy and gross.

That's what I hate the most I was purely interested in the game still cause I had friends who would come back for pve. Without that it's just a dead game for a shit load of people including me now.

Funny you say that, discord just did that exact thing with the new username update coming out

​@@AngelFX21 Because everyone is copying twitter these days. Despite what people say about elon, twitter is probably making more money than ever. I guarantee you discord will also come out with checkmarks or some sort of nitro feature tied to usernames so they can make even more money.

@@onobonono couldn’t agree more

@@AngelFX21 what new username update?

@@wokaroni discord is making their usernames more like Twitter with the display usernames and usernames different, they are taking out the #1234 stuff yk

Every sequel has been disaster by blizzard

yeah and it really sucks. overwatch isn’t like fortnite and similar games - it shouldn’t have a battle pass. it just doesn’t work. everyone did just fine with the loot boxes. blizzard is so money hungry that they limit heroes to the premium battle pass, which is exactly why i will never get the premium. people aren’t going to buy if they limit everything because we recognise how ridiculous it is.

​@@3takoyakis Diablo has been consistently popular

Literally what Epic did to both rocket league and fall guys, yet those games are not called rocket league 2 and fall guys 2

​@jajas king because they didn't make a big stink about it. Epic just quietly shuffled those features in and they got away it, because it wasn't a huge announcement or a stand out moment in the news.

i agree. he was the one light left keeping blizzard out of the darkness.

Jeff Kaplan was very passionate about overwatch. When it was announced he left blizzard, I got so sad because that’s when things started to go down hill

@@alpacarie he actually talked to us, OFTEN. And was always so wholesome and genuinely funny. I miss him dearly

Agreed. Sadge Jeff Kaplan left, now it's all going to just fall apart. 😢

That's why he probably left. Blizzard don't care.

I am literally the same. Started at 12 or 13 and im now 18 and in pieces from this news

@@RutgerBoermaRacingI think you need to get out more

@@OhDeeDoubleU I related about being sad and having a long passion for the game lol

Yeah, it's sad. Blizzard really needs to clean house. They had too many slackers and degenerates that were toxic and ruining everything. Now, their one good guy who was carrying everything left it's all just going to fall apart. Truly sad. The characters that Kaplan made were so loveable, and the gameplay was so much faster, smoother, and more hype than other games. The skill tree would have been a fun addition. I miss having the skill tree in World of Warcraft. I was looking forward to flexing my min/max skills again.

That sure is the title of the video!

Just them trying to re-monetize an old game

it is its a middle finger to the fans like me and is a massive blow to the companies integrity as a whole we waited for this story mode and they failed to deliver AGAIN!

Truly one of the huge embarrassment ever

wholesome rickroll 😊

I remember when it was Blizzard never fails to impress, but ever since Activision bought them it's been a steady decline.

@@BandOfTheHawk2 good

Just hope after CS2 comes out they are going to update TF2

The bots are a lot less worse than they were before tbf. Say what you will about valve but they are doing things in the back end of servers to make them more stable. Bots trying to join and just getting instantly vac banned is a pretty common occurrence. Valve just doesn't mention anything so hackers and bot hosters don't get a leg up

We are not dying, we are going to live forever!

Bro TF2 players already got biggest betrayal by steam changing from "normal sized update" Into festival sized

It defo is kinda sad regarding Tf2 but it can say it had 10 years of great content it's just unfortunate in it's twilight years it was abandoned. Like an old man in the retirement home who ended up developing dementia it's sad but we can cherish what came before. Overwatch just felt like it made every wrong decision possible and this is what it has been reduced to. The game feels like it's lost it's identity and it feels like a cashgrab. It's like a college superstar with a great future get into drugs and gambling and waste their life away and now you see them working at the supermarket. Probebly a wierd analogy but that's the best way to describe the feeling of it.

Thats blizzard as a whole, the developers dont get any say on that.

hong kong is part of china anyway

thats your takeaway?

@@sylermurphree7477 shut up

@@sylermurphree7477 Correction =/= takeaway

To be fair in this case I don't think it's difficult when the players themselves are telling you what they want the game to be. It's hard to hit the mark as to what would people enjoy but when they are literally telling you in the most descriptive ways then you can't really use that excuse. Sure sometimes shit doesn't work and you have to refactor for balance, competitive aspects, barrier to entry, etc... But those are things that you work on over time through feedback.

@@charlesm.2604 No, thats only for PVP. We just expect PVE wont suck since all PVE events in OW1 are sucks and kinda pessimistic. But they give a promising trailer which led us believe theyve changed

I get making fps games is hard, but they had 4 years. What in the hell have they been doing?

As a game dev, I have absolutely no idea what these fuckers we’re doing for half a decade. The whole “ohhh game development is so hard” is bullshit. It’s not THAT hard. It’s mildly difficult, but I could’ve whipped up this pve shit in a year with a dozen buddies and some blue moon. Blizz devs had to be doing absolutely FUCKALL for them to not even have a base product ready

fact. the thing that's left is so soulless

You know, I didn't even mind the battlepass. We complained about not having stuff to do in ow1, so the quests were a nice little addition, and the value was okay for the money spent. But 20$ for a normal legendary skin in the shop? what the fuck was that.. pure greed. This is how it died, and it's just sad, man..

@@Goldy01 $10 is lot for someone from a country whose currency has a murderous exchange rate against the USD but I get what you mean. $20 was absolute insantiy. It was cheaper to get a certain item IRL than it was in-game. Also, Blizzard decided to be uniquely shitty about their battlepass. Unlike other battlepasses, Blizzard's battlepass didn't give the OW Coins back after you completed it. So while you only had to buy the other battlepasses once, for Overwatch 2 you had to buy it every single time.

It's not just to You My friend that exactly what they did. fuck blizzard. quit all their games. they care that we play so not playing is the Best way to give them the finger back.

Honestly do stop playing the game, I quit a while ago and now I’m DEFINITELY never coming back

I stopped playing around when kirito was released

@Lucifer Morningstar 🅥 thank you for this beautiful insight on this wonderful topic lucifer

They are still making PvE missions. If anything, they're going to be closer to the previous Archives missions than the original plan. What the developers have said is that they are cancelling features like the skill trees they promised that would have brought more replayability and differentiated these missions from Archives, and instead of releasing the PvE missions as one narrative all at once they're going to release missions across different Seasons. They're still making canon, narrative-based PvE missions, just not with all the features that they promised and probably over a very drawn out period of time so people lose interest waiting for the next crumb of lore.

@@e.d.5766 and thats kind of what i was thinking. I loved the events but like you said they were a once a year thing that only gave us crumbs. I was looking forward to a full story of overwatch and talon.

My farts are better than Mogul Mail’s farts.

Or ludwin

​@Nicki bro the fuck

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How original

Bro gets his research done, and he does it FAST

It's definitely the journalism experience. I'm a jour major myself and you have to do basically what lud does in his videos to help fit together your articles. He stands apart in his impressive ability to vocally communicate it rather than just in writing, which I feel like many journalists struggle with. I might be a good writer, but everything I say outloud sounds like word vomit.

​@@aria9330 im gonna be honest, ive never read an article as well written and clear as ludwig speaks

@Cherri Berri I've read a ton in my time studying it. The trick is the general public is usually either reading breaking news (which we are taught to keep as short and concise as possible, avoiding too much context) or literal trash (like buzzfeed, which is entertainment not journalism). The good stuff is more long-form journalism or non-breaking news contextual articles, which isn't pushed to be on the front page or in algorithms. I was shocked at how good some of the more contextual pieces were while studying them, which is way closer to what lud does. The problem is journalism doesn't pull enough readership for the contextual pieces, and readers stop reading if the "breaking news" isn't within the first 2 paragraphs, so articles are written to be short and quick rather than fully interesting and contextual. Mr. Mail here gets away with it because he has a following already. If you're curious about what all news journalists learn to base their writing off of, Google the inverted pyramid writing structure.

Props to the editors and the whole team also, Lud is a great leader apparently.

they spent 3 years for 2 new heros like 6 ablity changes and 2 new maps bro we got all that in one year with good ole jeff God damn it

TF2 outlived OW1 by doing nothing TF2 won OW2 by still doing nothing TF2 is the king of class based shooter even in this state

why would they? people bought into diablo 4 real quick

You forgot to mention TF2 has a highly replayable PvE mode where you fight waves of robots and upgrade the abilities of your class.... mmmhhh.... sounds familiar.

​@@iminumst7827 best part is that PVE literally carries to casual XD

@@CBRN-115 TF2 Beats overwatch in numbers of cheaters and ruining the servers

Yes I already watched the video

@@hotdogstandman I know I just want to put more emphasis on the time in between and the expectation from the community because that lacked a bit imo

Finding more ways to monetize Diablo 4 in the most predatory ways possible.

Trying to make people forget about the pervasive culture of sexual harassment

That does take a lot of effort tho

They've just been falling to balance their game since October. The fact that this is the product they are saying they are investing everything into is shameful.

I love how people who have no clue about how game development works always try to say stuff as if they know how game development works. Especially when clearly not having read up on anything and just basing on this one video. This is not the dev team's fault, this is on Blizzard's higher management who refused to hire more staff to match with the scope of PvE and instead forced the team into making it work with what they had. The devs did say what they were doing, about 90% of the team was working on PvE content for the past 3 years. They worked hard on improving their engine so that it would be possible to make better PvE content. They didn't make more new heroes because they were working on the talent trees, as these were supposed to really change the heroes ability. Game development isn't something you can just scope out once and be roll on with, apart from games that just repeat the same things, doing something different like this will for sure have developing costs and unpredictable When the team realised they couldn't possible support PvP and PvE as live service, they asked to make a second team that would only do PvE. They didn't get that. I'm incredibly disappointed by these news, but jesus can yall spend 1 week without pretending you know stuff you clearly don't. Stop putting the blame on devs and pretend game dev is easy, if you want to make these kinds of comments, educate yourself about it.

My farts are better than Mogul Mail’s farts.

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sucks being a diehard fan of OW1. The energy in the new game is just so different. Something missing.

@@CreatureVision two players are missing, and more heroes further muddying the waters… battlepass sucks… the feel sucks… It was dead as soon as it came out. I honestly can’t believe people are so gaming addicted that they refused to acknowledge it.

Mogul mail is such a nice guy for talking about this ludwig is literally copying him

@@CreatureVision I’ll tell you what’s missing. FOUR YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT.

They only care about money and nothing else and intend on making the shittiest game ever

I'm in the same boat. I coach and play overwatch competitively and it doesn't even feel like they test their patches before they get released. Don't get me wrong I love rush/ brawl comps but I love traditional brawl/ rush which is about pathing not whether or not I can farm my ult as junkerqueen faster then the other tank.

Hadn't even noticed that they scrapped PTR.... oof .. though that also explains a lot