Thank you. That means a lot to me.

I agree wholeheartedly with this comment

That’s a truly hopeful comment. I hope loads of equestrian people on all sides do take Tim’s ways on board. 🎈🎈🎈

I know, the grooming part was something that stood out to me as well. I also never thought of what grooming may mean to the horse. That was good information.

LOL Yes!

LOL. What cracked me up was how, "some horses want to be couch potatoes" 🙂

He does have a big head like Elaine on Seinfeld

You're welcome!

That is a very old video.

Hi Mary. The key to getting a horse to not run you back to the barn is to go out and back a lot. They only run you back so they can be done and if you take away the done the the running back goes away. Thanks for watching.

Your horse is barn sweet, not sour. Meaning he wants to hurry back to the barn and get rid of you. When you get. Back to the barn , keep him busy , make him run around and around , practice backing him up . In other words take away his fun

Yeah, once they get into some bad habits it's hard to break them of them. As I read your post, I imagined what I may have done and I was thinking, I may have turned her around when she started speeding up when going down the hill toward the driveway. Or, possibly just starting her down, than turning her around to walk up each time when going down the hill. Just thinking about what I'd do now, as a kid I couldn't tell you what I would have done (I wasn't the most patient person. Thank God we grow up🙂). Thanks for telling your experience it gets me thinking what I would do in similar situations.

@Hazel Walker I never could get her to back up either! I broke a bridle that way. She would just go in circles rather than backing! Stubborn, yes! I swear she was part mule! LOL!

@October Jubilee oh, I tried MANY times turning her around and going back up that hill, but it didn't matter. I could have her all lathered up and her sides heaving, but it never mattered... I do swear she was part mule! LOL!

Thank you!

Thanks for the feedback. Next time I'll wear my mic.

That is an older video. I have much better audio system in the newer videos.

@@timandersonhorsetraining Good, thought it was my ear buds.

I typically have 12 -14 horses in training at a time and I work from one to the next. I'm not going to stop and take them off to do ground work then put them back on for the next to ride and work on body control. Spurs are a tool just like a lunge whip, bridle, or reins. All tools to get a job done.

@@timandersonhorsetraining Ok, got it. Thank you for explaining. I noticed that you just nudged the horse with the side of your foot for pressure.

Thank you for watching.

Wow, that horse must have been something to see all covered in gold like that. Couldn't resist.

@@virginiamoss7045 Lol actually silk black and very expensive..

I never heard of it so I just watched some of the videos. I do not disagree with anything they are teaching but that system as a whole is not help me in the competitive events that I work towards. However some of the techniques are interesting and I will try them and see if they work for me. Thank you.

When I'm not filming I don't talk much so when I do talk it's pretty weird for the horses.

@@timandersonhorsetraining he seemed happy enough!

I guess he's telling me how many cookies he wants. LOL

Give them something to do. Move their feet. Don't make it more complicated than that.

I'm sorry I do not remember. That was a while back, since then I've started trying to show the bit in the video.

Thank you

Thank you. I am currently shopping for a new wireless mic and camera person.

A tripod helps if the horses can become accustomed. There also some that will track your every move 360 if you set focusing on horse as target first.

I do not remember which bit I was using.

Hey Laura. For horses with that history it's goung to take you spending a lot of time with her just doing everything correctly. You can't be totally submissive to her because then she will never accept you as her leader. Just give her things to do, ask her correctly, and reward the correct response with lots of praise. Be consistent and patient.

Yes this is one of my older videos. The audio is better in the newer ones. Thanks for watching.

If you watch horses battle for herd behavior size doesn't matter, size only matters to us when we get intimidated. Start by figuring out a little way that you can safely make him move his feet and expand from there. You don't have to win every battle, just the war in the end. Choose your battles wisely.

@@timandersonhorsetraining Thank you so much for the advice! I didn't expect you to reply, what a nice surprise!

Thank you for trying to watch. This is one of my older videos, my newer videos have much better audio.

That's an old video. The newer ones have better sound

You are right, horse behavior problems are always man made. The problem is that no one wants a lazy, pushy, or disrespectful horse just like no one wants a lazy, pushy, or disrespectful spouse. The problem is you can leave a spouse that but a horse like that has a grim future. Even though the behavior is not the horse's fault the only way to improve the future for the horse is to correct the behavior. You have seen a couple minute snippet of this horse I have spent many days with him, this horse is not scared and I don't blame him for the situation that people have put him in.

Since I made this video I upgrade all of my audio and video recording equipment. You might try watching some of my newer videos.

I understand you not wanting to hit him but he sure doesn't mind biting and kicking you. When you saw that what you were doing wasn't working, why didn't you change what you were doing before it got this bad?

@@timandersonhorsetraining Haha, I know you're right. Yesterday he looked like a pit bull when he tried to bite me. We were putting his saddle on. I'm over fighting with him is all. Thanks for your reply. Only had him for 2 months. Just afraid to correct him I guess. I've seen him get pretty nasty and ppl have slapped him and I noticed he only gets worse after he's corrected. Meaner ... Goes from biting to kicking... More aggressive.. So that's why it's hard for me... I'm too chicken!

I tell people to think of getting a horse like dating. You're usually not going to marry the first person you date. You date someone and find out you are not compatible you should move on. It's no different with a horse.

@@timandersonhorsetraining Yes, he needs a man to deal with him. He's so wonderful to my farrier

It's rare for a horse to employ real aggression without pain or fear, but, either way, it sounds like he's not someone you're able to safely work with. I hope you've found a way out of that unhealthy relationship of yours. The saddling story makes me suspicious of some kind of joint issue or saddle fit issue. Was he ever checked by a vet to eliminate health issues? If it's fear, did he used to do better in a less restricted space, either on a long lead or at liberty? What were the circumstances of the kicking story? Double-barrelled shot at a girl in his stall is pretty extreme. Why did he feel that much pressure, past abuse? You don't have to answer my questions. It's just what I'd ask if I was trying to solve the problem, but some things are not best handled in a KZfaq comments section.

That video is almost a year old, I have better audio in the newer videos.

You should try my newer videos.

Yes

@@timandersonhorsetraining awesome!

True

@@timandersonhorsetraining But that's the beauty of animals - they get past all that and start fresh again, especially with someone like you who understands and guides them with confidence and fairness in a way to inspire trust and willingness!

And still I get 1.5 million views every month and a 6 month waiting list for horses to train. Someone is missing something.

Monty Roberts Fame really comes from Shy-Boy and his venture to be able to touch and work with a horse without any pen in the wild as he usually dealt with mustangs and more feral horses. He worked much more on join up because the horses he predominantly worked with were not accustomed to being around people. He really started or pushed the idea of "Join Up" to mainstream culture. However a horse raised around humans or with humans does not act like a wild horse. There needs to be other methods as these horses are not afraid of people and can even be dangerous to them. It's literally called the "Join Up International organization" and he has a University for trainers and it's about listening to horses, but this trainer does that as well as he is watching their ears, eyes, their muscles tighten on their back or hindquarters and it's just not widely taught now-a-days to read horse body language. I love when a feral horse will do join up or even one that is fear reactive, but too much join up and not enough boundaries with horses raised in captivity can be a really dangerous problem. I always work on trusting my horse and them trusting me as I won't do things to hurt them, but at a certain point we are partners and I am not here to hug them and make them feel comfortable and they need to have boundaries or I will have a 16H toddler forever and that is dangerous. It's not about the tools you have, but how you use them as any kid who ever got swatted with a green young plant will tell you - the person didn't need an official whip to do damage and people harm horses everyday by yanking on bits like there is no tomorrow. All about how you use the tool.