'This is EMBARRASSING' | Reacting to MLS' decision to leave US Open Cup | Morning Footy

'This is EMBARRASSING' | Reacting to MLS' decision to leave US Open Cup | Morning Footy | CBS Sports

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6 ай бұрын

Former Premier League and MLS midfielder Nigel Reo-Coker weighs in on the decision to keep MLS first team players out of the U.S. Open Cup and how the FA Cup helped his career.
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@Rj_D956 6 ай бұрын

Bad for the culture, which ultimately can be bad for business.

@francisismyhero 6 ай бұрын

MLS has stopped pursuing a model to develop US talent and players, and this US Open change is just one sign of that.

@JAG214 6 ай бұрын

MLS has never started a model to develop US talent to begin with

@gandalfgreyhame3425 6 ай бұрын

The USSF needs to grow some cajones and pull the D1 certification from MLS and give it to the USL. They have the right to do that according to its charter, since MLS is required to participate in the US Open if it wants to be included under the umbrella of the USSF organization.

@FIR2031 6 ай бұрын

What a joke. Turning me off more and more. Tried hard to support the US league and local club. This is it. Sticking to Euros the real deal.

@buggyd4752 6 ай бұрын

Agreed Shaking my head at all the games I went to this year 😂

@soccerdude601 6 ай бұрын

watch USL instead.

@pbenavides09 6 ай бұрын

The state of soccer in the US is a joke. MLS thinking that they are more relevant than a competition that out ages the league is hilarious. I’d rather support my local NPSL club.

@johnnygober6044 6 ай бұрын

It's only up to a possibility of 6 games anyways. Most teams are out quickly. This is a joke that they are doing this. If this happens, count me out of MLS.

@stevenredmond7455 6 ай бұрын

This is the problem with the US system of franchise league. If you don’t have promotion & relegation there is nothing for lesser players & teams to expire too. This US system is purely a money making league & not a sport for all.

@houseofvenusMD 6 ай бұрын

MLB, NBA, and NFL are franchise systems that produce some of the best athletes in the world in their respective sports. The issue with MLS is not Pro/Rel but that it actively shuns development in favor of TV deals. It's as if the entire league is being operated by the same mentality running clubs like Manchester United. The sporting aspect does not matter, just the value of the revenue from TV deals. Open Cup was the single thing in our soccer infrastructure that allowed for pure development. Now the USL will become the better league athletically in the next 20 years as true grassroots players come through there.

@insanebe1 6 ай бұрын

@@houseofvenusMD MLB, NBA, and NFL are US sports largely played only by the US, I wouldn't describe them as a global sport. There may be some popularity in watching but with the exception of a few there is zero in wanting to play.

@alfredogedengbe2591 6 ай бұрын

@houseofvenusMD if those sports were taken even half as seriously as football is it would be way different Also most money doesn't mean best league Nba and mlb offer the most money by far but in terms of quality it's not far behind especially when it comes to IQ and tactics

@tykobes4132 6 ай бұрын

Yeah well England is the size of Ohio so try running a league the size of Europe. 😂

@hhbentee 6 ай бұрын

“Expire to” 🤦‍♂️

@tripperdelaluna1 6 ай бұрын

This is such a MLS thing to do.

@kanebarton6212 6 ай бұрын

This is really dumb part of the reason FC Cincinnati has an MLS team now is because the league was able to see the football culture in the city because of their US open cup run

@jayh3283 6 ай бұрын

Same thing with Seattle Sounders, Portland Timbers, and Orlando.

@Woodwind58 6 ай бұрын

This is a disgraceful decision by MSL - which wouldn’t exist at all w/o the preferential treatment it has received from the Federation - including being granted status as the sole First Division league. Talk about forgetting where you came from!

@p.pinchelette2909 6 ай бұрын

First the dumb playoff change, now this, and to top it off no pro/rel. I tried and had hope, I'm done. I'd rather watch real leagues anyway.

@1stutterafter 6 ай бұрын

U.S. OPEN needs to raise the winners prize money and increase their funding for advertising.

@roloruns1543 6 ай бұрын

I can see how some of the matches are viewed as pointless, but maybe just reformatting it so that MLS teams don't have to come in until later rounds of the tournament would be better than cutting it off altogether. Without a relegation system our professional system, I think the US Open Cup is a great way for USLC teams to gain leverage in potential MLS bids as well. Additionally, the US Open Cup has been played since 1913! With such a young league, it's nice to have some tradition. They should just consider a different format and keep it going.

@elkanahfrederickayittey77 6 ай бұрын

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@johnnygober6044 6 ай бұрын

They already don't enter until later rounds. This is a joke of a decision to remove MLS teams. Embarrassing.

@MrGoochtastic 6 ай бұрын

@@johnnygober6044 A closed football pyramid will never lead to a nation succeeding in growing that sport. USA has always proven they care more about money than anything else. WHat do the americans say? "its all about the benjamins" Joke league for a joke of a footballing nation

@mohwe1007 6 ай бұрын

they could follow the FA Cup's formula

@roloruns1543 6 ай бұрын

@@MrGoochtastic Ok, but MLS also has a salary cap, which creates a competitive and exciting environment where you don't know who will win every year, unlike many domestic European leagues. The pyramid isn't exactly closed either, because some teams like FC Cincinnati start in USL and then join the expanding MLS. Since you say MLS and the sport in the U.S. are a joke, why are you taking time out of your day to comment on a video about it? Go watch some European matches, there is plenty of action happening right now, too much for you to come on here with all your nonsense.

@danielvyt 6 ай бұрын

Imagine if the premier league did this with the fa cup

@bigjoeofthe707 6 ай бұрын

MLS thinks the Leagues Cup is popular. It’s not. Only reason people tuned in was to see Messi. If Messi didn’t sign with Miami and play in every Leagues Cup match the tournament would’ve stayed irrelevant. If they wanna have less schedule congestion dump that lame tournament. I saw the faces on many of the Liga MX clubs that won a match. They looked happy it was over instead of smiling that they beat an MLS club (again for some). MLS just wanna be like the rest of the leagues here. Sadly they won’t be like that.

@anarwally 6 ай бұрын

I think MLS should have stayed in the USOC and should dump the Leagues Cup. But a lot of this talk is about players having a chance to show their skill and maybe get a chance at moving up to the MLS. Has that actually ever happened?

@clipcoug1139 6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say dump the Leagues Cup, but make it more like a "Europa League" type of tournament. Make it a secondary CONCACAF competition below the Champions Cup and only have a few MLS teams able to qualify for it instead of making every MLS team have to compete in it.

@sammypierrecollections 6 ай бұрын

@@clipcoug1139mls only cares about their profit at the end of the day and they put too much money into leagues cup to do that sadly

@Stewy-xw9fz 6 ай бұрын

USL needs to withdraw from the US open cup if MLS withdraw from US open cup, so MLS next can play with themselves

@ogKoral 6 ай бұрын

The real question is: are any of us surprised?

@jordanw4448 6 ай бұрын

The only solution is for every USL team to put 30 goals past the MLSnext teams that they play

@josepinto4451 6 ай бұрын

Go to any European country and try to end any of their national cups or stop the first division teams from being part of them... There would be literal riots on the streats.

@jfifthb 6 ай бұрын

nobody from the USSF can complain about the MLS not being relevant on an international level. decisions like this show their lack of ambition

@patrick-po2lx 6 ай бұрын

MLS will reverse this decision, and they ought to do it immediately.

@Stewy-xw9fz 6 ай бұрын

A Multi Billionaire needs to invest in USL and upgrade the stadiums to 15000 minimum capacity and lock down an ESPN tv contract to compete head to head with MLS. MLS is a joke.

@housesavagemafia7504 6 ай бұрын

Exactly It Has so much Potential and it Would Easily Easily Rival Mls as its a complete joke of a league

@manuels.figueroa2463 6 ай бұрын

Facts!!! Too much unrecognized talent

@mackross 6 ай бұрын

Imagine if la liga top teams left copa del ray Imagine if the premier league teams left the FA cup What a joke by MLS

@SortOfEggish 6 ай бұрын

Do you think the USOC has the same popularity as those legacy competitions?

@FIR2031 6 ай бұрын

Do you think MLS has anywhere near the popularity of those leagues? Turning me off moe and more.

@AbedCruz 6 ай бұрын

You don't get the reason behind this decision. MLS regular season start in February and should be finished in october with 34 games for each team. Alongside the regular season 2024, there will be Leagues Cup, Concacaf Champions League. The Copa America is slated to be played in the USA meaning that the regular season will be stopped for a month. To cap it all, there will be MLS playoffs after the season. How can a team cope with so many games in such a tiny schedule? It's a sad decision to not play US Open Cup 2024 but they have no choice.

@FIR2031 6 ай бұрын

@@AbedCruz fake plastic league

@houseofvenusMD 6 ай бұрын

@@AbedCruz European teams literally play more matches. You don't know this sport obviously. What you do is you play your academy players in the early rounds then play the starters later on in the competition. MLS made this decision out of snobbery. Honestly I believe in 30 years time USL will be the bigger league. They have Pro/Rel and more grassroots talent can access those clubs

@giampieroviteri1023 6 ай бұрын

Yes!! Don't look at it as a pocketbook

@Dogowisdom605 6 ай бұрын

To be honest, no mls team takes the open cup serious tho, they all play reserves and youngster and it gets pretty boring

@CptCadoodles 6 ай бұрын

That was the point of that cup. To give the subs and youth a chance to show the coach what they got. It also gave the lower tier teams a chance to do the same and make money for the club and players. Hell would break loose if the EPL withdrew from the FA cup, or the La Liga from copa del rey, etc. This is why soccer in the US will never succeed. It’s one big joke.

@agn855 6 ай бұрын

... it's one big joke bc of guys like @Dogo... who obviously is thinking that football isn't about the people but a gladiators game (controled by the rich to amuse a bunch of deplorables).

@DungeonProtoss 6 ай бұрын

How about adding a few top college teams to play in the US Open Cup...

@sunrae3971 6 ай бұрын

FMS "Franchise Mall Soccer" would be a better name.

@Chooch3125 6 ай бұрын

First the Apple TV deal, now this. It makes no sense.

@chamberlainwonder369 5 ай бұрын

Houston has gone into history by winning one championship cup

@mheiseus 6 ай бұрын

MLS should just stick to US Open Cup and CCL and increase the salary cap and add pro/rel

@thepatsnumber1fan 6 ай бұрын

Shame take a look at mls teams that moved to the mls due to a deep run like Cincinnati and Sacramento was going to move up before Covid

@jovy1218 6 ай бұрын

The only people complaining are USL fans. This helps them get a USL team into the CCL without MLS top teams and rosters in the tournament. The reality is this… not a lot of people care about this tournament

@CyberXShinobi 6 ай бұрын

Someone please tell me the players that benefited from the "opportunity" of the Open Cup.

@inelhuayocan_aci 4 ай бұрын

Why must we sit through a nearly two minute monologue before getting expert opinions?

@bawireman 6 ай бұрын

The entire attraction of the Open Cup was to watch the little guys take their shots at the big guys. The powers that be are completely clueless about how to develop players and how to interest fans. That's really bad considering that the United States currently has the best player in the world in their league and the World Cup is coming soon.

@asinc79 6 ай бұрын

MLS needs all the eyeballs it can’t get. Massive L by DonGarbio here

@kalm435 6 ай бұрын

Ok, but then concacaf should take away the berth given to the champions for the concacaf champions cup

@20boss04 Ай бұрын

bad for the mls but good for the usl to grow

@anthonyhunt7313 6 ай бұрын

If you love the game go to Europe or play in Asia don’t play in the US

@alvizothegreat8096 6 ай бұрын

Or play in South America

@optimumfilms 6 ай бұрын

At this point more people have commented they think this is a terrible idea, than the total attendance of the entire tournament. No one LOVED this competition until MLS didn't want to play anymore.

@BigPapiChi 6 ай бұрын

Yup. But even tho I agree with the point made at 2:50. Even if the main team doesn’t seem fit to play just toss some young kids to help development and give them a shot to see the pitch.

@optimumfilms 6 ай бұрын

@@BigPapiChi that's exactly what they are doing with MLS Next Pro being allowed to compete.

@nathaniel23946 6 ай бұрын

That’s why MLS will never crack the top 10 league of the world.

@prez10points 6 ай бұрын

Hopefully its still a guaranteed CL spot for whichever lower league club wins it

@brianstefans9108 6 ай бұрын

I’m in favor of this move with the Open Cup since MLS teams just played their best squads in the final rounds and always win. I’d like to see a team below the top tier win the Open Cup. It’s just not a fair competition. MLS clubs have their own cups; I’d like to see a good USL team win and I think it would be great for US soccer as a whole since it’s cynical for everyone to celebrate MLS winning year after year given the budget disparities involved.

@ToniPhillips-tc9cl 6 ай бұрын

MLS , its a joke, most teams would not survive in League 2 in England

@imstillhereileft7530 6 ай бұрын

Rgv toros has ceased operations & close the doors to valley fans , it’s confirmed 👍 😢 , no more mls teams

@agn855 6 ай бұрын

That's the next best foolish thing besides Brexit Okay, finally that means you never ever will have a *Weltpokalsiegerbesieger* in that competition. Priceless

@StevenHabibi 6 ай бұрын

We need relegation in MLS, it will create more opportunity for teams, by creating more competition. It will also improve the U.S. National players both current and future. MLS is weak globally despite its steady rise in popularity. It can be so much more if they focused on improving the game and not MLS’s pocket book. Which ironically would make MLS more lucrative. They are just too short sighted and greedy to see that.

@elkanahfrederickayittey77 6 ай бұрын

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@shaunrivera8272 6 ай бұрын

I'm done watching MLS I've tried to give this league the benefit of the doubt, but it just continues to show its run by clowns with no love for the sport.

@Czekaje 6 ай бұрын

League Cup and the ehhmls liga Mx cup is worthless. So is concacaf so called champion's league.

@HoodedChance 2 ай бұрын

The idea that there's too many games and it's a "player load issue" is pathetic. Teams in all of Europe and especially England's first tier (which are all far superior to MLS - every MLS team would be relegated after one season in any top five league, just accept this as fact) play more games than MLS does - EPL teams that qualify for Europe play in four cup series (League, FA, League Cup, and Champs/Euros) and play upwards of 60 games a season. MLS is unwatchable to me, as a fan of European football. I want MLS to succeed, but it's a pathetic league. The lack of relegation makes it not even a real league in my opinion, it's just another american sport focused entirely on bottom-line-revenue and not about the quality of the game on the field. MLS needs to institute relegation and put owners under pressure to put a quality team on the field. They need to play as many games as possible to enrich the value for fans. Until then, this league can STFU.

@CaliCity10 6 ай бұрын

Just so everyone knows CBS has a reason for what they are saying: CBS own the current rights to US Open Cup. Don’t fooled by CBS’s “culture” perspective, that not really why they are mad.

@RBzee112 6 ай бұрын

These commentators covered and/or played US soccer long before CBS did. They are giving their personal opinions.

@milkdab6977 6 ай бұрын

Stop glazing MLS you cuck.

@agn855 6 ай бұрын

You'll allow that I'm sharing their view - regardless of their very own motives?! Thx.

@SwatBeatsOfficial 6 ай бұрын

MLS is butt-cheeks anyways. I want soccer to grow in the U.S. but MLS just isn't it.

@alu.minium521 6 ай бұрын

Gooly gee, network employees disappointed that their bosses will have to lower commercial fees because finally a league has said enough is enough. MLS is looking after the players and not chasing more money. Good for them.

@agn855 6 ай бұрын

_ "... . MLS is looking after the players... "_ ...of course, that's why they introduced the "Leagues Cup" instead. Got it.

@brianstefans9108 6 ай бұрын

I think you guys are wrong. I hate Leagues cup in this format. But I think any USL or lower tier team would be stoked to play an MLS Next Pro team who after all have better contracts than they do. And if an MLS team cares enough for the cup, they drop players from their squads into the Next Pro squads for the duration of the competition. There are very few teams who end up playing MLS teams anyway since MLS enters in the later rounds after dozens of lower tier teams have already knocked each other out.

@bryan5213 6 ай бұрын

What's embarrassing is the people on this desk 😂 Charlie and Alexis are so unprofessional, they laugh and yell over EVERYONE. Also it was super cringey when they started doing British impressions and you could tell there isn't chemistry on the desk.

@elkanahfrederickayittey77 6 ай бұрын

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@offtherezzervation6706 6 ай бұрын

I would rather have MLS drop out of all tournament like competitions, league play for promotion and relegation only. League winners play in champions tournament at their discretion.

@SortOfEggish 6 ай бұрын

The competition is poorly run and doesn't fill seats. Not the domestic league's job to make it more popular. I would ADORE the kind of energy at an Open Cup game that is similar to the energy of an FA Cup game. But it's not there, and it's not MLS's job to address it.

@anarwally 6 ай бұрын

But the MLS could do more to promote it. They invented and promote the Leagues Cup. If they put that effort behind the US Open Cup it would go a long way to help promote it.

@optimumfilms 6 ай бұрын

You dont build the culture of soccer in the US by throwing your best players into potential injuries against total no ones.

@agn855 6 ай бұрын

Nonsense, bc that "total no ones" are your domestic players that you wanna rob of that chance - only to prevent foreign legioneers (correction: investments) from being harmed. Go back, watching *egg-ball* ...

@mcvee_ 6 ай бұрын

You also don't toss out what little soccer history this country actually has. USOC predates MLS by over 80 years, and will likely outlast it

@optimumfilms 6 ай бұрын

@@mcvee_ you're out of your mind. The MLS is here to stay and is the flagship of American Soccer.

@mcvee_ 6 ай бұрын

@@optimumfilms You should look up what a 'ponzi scheme' is and how they collapse

@Gearshift__ 6 ай бұрын

Yanks have never heard of the fa cup lmfao

@clipcoug1139 6 ай бұрын

There are plenty of Yanks who follow the Premiere League and know what the FA Cup is.

@mcvee_ 6 ай бұрын

Obsessed with us much?

@Gearshift__ 6 ай бұрын

@@mcvee_ Its honestly embarrassing leaving the US equivalent of the fa cup and wanting people to take your league seriously. we would be rioting in the streets if the prem did that! good luck trying to get people interested in your league, its a joke.

@mcvee_ 6 ай бұрын

@@Gearshift__ My club plays in USL which actually takes the US Open Cup seriously. I've despised MLS for years and this situation only furthers my feelings towards them. Of course, none of this had to do with your random off-topic comment on an american youtube channel about americans and the fa cup. You and your countrymen seem intimidated by the american soccer media covering your leagues, which is strange.

@Gearshift__ 6 ай бұрын

@@mcvee_ If you want people to take your League seriously. You need to get people behind making it competitive. You've got one of the biggest markets in the world but a completely different league structure to the rest of the world. You get your league to implement rules the same as everyone else and you will thrive unlike the Saudis (as their market is tiny) and become competitive with Europe simple as.

@ankit07069 6 ай бұрын

US open cup was okay but the matches were seemingly endless for a season so glad it was this open cup and who cares about the small teams anyways

@edwardeduardo8561 6 ай бұрын

If you want to grow the game in this country, you need local teams so people can get invested in the sport. MLS is not on the popularity level of the other sports where people will travel from miles away to see a team far removed from their community. This cup competition is one reason why Cincinnati is what it is today. You best believe people from Cincinnati were not supporting Columbus just because they were the only MLS team in Ohio for 20 years.

@sterlingmarshel6299 6 ай бұрын

good decision - it is meaningless in the current format. Too much congestion.

@ryanjohnson6272 6 ай бұрын

It is not meaningless, and if you want to complain about fixture congestion, why not expand rosters, increase the salary cap, and get rid of Leagues Cup?

@SortOfEggish 6 ай бұрын

@@ryanjohnson6272 Leagues Cup is much more popular and it's better organized, and the USOC administrators had decades to increase popularity, simple answer. Next

@FIR2031 6 ай бұрын

MLS is a fake plastic league.

@brettfilbrun1056 6 ай бұрын

@@ryanjohnson6272keep crying, leagues cup is more entertaining

@ryanjohnson6272 6 ай бұрын

@@brettfilbrun1056 Leagues Cup is a plastic Mickey Mouse cup that's rigged for MLS. No one would have cared about it if Messi wasn't there. Open Cup is a competition with history and tradition. But it doesn't surprise me that those things don't matter to an MLS shill