Yeah it doesn’t really make sense, just a plot device

Pretty realistic, the type of people who do stuff like this think they're invincible

Earning a paycheck

@@gaiusjuliuscaesar9296 they were listening to vought who wanted to use soldier boy's dna (the greatest hero of their time) to make a super hero who would earn them millions regardless of the consequences

Research probably.

And lets be honest this episode, A plot is B material

@@taronhadlames84Just finished the episode, I wish they’d payed more attention to it. Also this season has too many people are saying “I’m sorry” for shit you can’t apologize for. It’s supremely annoying. It’s happened like ten times already.

@@amateur-madman3047The theme of this season is about forgiving your past.

This episode was the best this season BY FAR.

​@@MrRhinosoul why tho? I see people saying this but I genuinely want to know why. Isn't this episode just a continuation of the previous?

Magneto is an imbecile

Magneto is an imbecile

Dr Doom to Wolverine "I'll make you wish you were facing Magneto." 😂 That's the best Magneto diss ever 😂😂😂😂😂

@@BradleyLodge yeah Magneto is a little bitch compared to DOOM

@@BradleyLodge Dr.Doom is another level of menace 🤣

He isn’t the only supe raised in a lab, while some of the others are like him, some aren’t. Whether you blame him or not he is still responsible for this sht lol.

​@@user-wy1et9dk9w im pretty sure most supes atleast had families growing up but homelander was straight up a lab rat

Many who do go crazy do so because of how they were raised. Sad to me that parents are not held accountable for their child's actions, no matter their age.

@@user-wy1et9dk9w they all had families, he was a lab rat. Manipulated, tortured, and abused as a child. He didn't choose his path.

@@Zzuesdefinitely! Being raised in a unhealthy home is never an excuse to go full psycho in your adult years. But bad parents just don’t get blamed enough for their children’s screwed up actions. Who knows? Maybe Hitler would’ve been more well adjusted if his father didn’t beat the crap out of him.

thats gruesome

It was very personal

thats very true...holy fuck

I feel bad for those staff members, what the actual fuck did they do to him?

@@drunkgeek3035he just wanted to make Barbara suffer. That’s all they were to him; an audience for the first two victims, and a means to punish Barbara

Wasted a perfectly good Fudgie smh

Wouldn't surprise me majority of fans of this show would be saddened most by wasted cake, silly fat mfers 😂

Why did I lowkey feel bad for cake

@@squidward9747Cakes are always innocent 😢😢

The cake did nothing wrong.

😂😂😂

Brightburn would (dis)agree 😂

Yeah new york is no place to raise someone to be morally upright and ethical XD

​@@MayankKumar-mn3dg Ultraman would also disagree

Homelander, Hyperion and Ultraman - the "Super Psycho Gang".

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Soy comment

I don't think that's quite what they were going for...like obviously he needs love. As for "never getting it" though? Narratively, sure...but he has a clear path to truly receiving love from Ryan. He literally came to this lab BECAUSE he kept pushing Ryan away and he realized it. "You really screwed this one up" is literally something that his own brain tells him when he upsets Ryan.

​@@brendonw456i guess a lot of ppl take into an account of what 'love' should be as a set of (higher) perceived standards that gets determined in its absolute form of truth to what it should & shouldn't be as... 'love' is just as complex as its simple essence of what it is and it's just 'deep affection' that's rooted onto something or someone.

​@brendonw456 maybe it both

@@user-pe1xm9mr5u Maybe, but I don't really see anything in the scene that actually suggests he has freed himself of his need for love. If anything. I see the opposite. Because he's still doing the same thing he's always done. He viewed these scientists as parental figures and...well...he's literally killed every single parental figure he's ever had. Except for Stan Edgar. Though idk if that relationship is particularly parental. They both seemed to keep it all transactional

@@brendonw456 stan is dead

Ice cream cake and waste paper basketball? Count me in!

Also you don't see laser vision marks anywhere else,so im guessing he killed those people with his bare hands.

​@@robertsmith-wv2hwNo shit! That's why he has blood all over him

Bad day for the security guard to take that particular shift.

Tv tropes pointed out that there’s a possibility that Barbara’s survival instincts may begin to kick in once she starts to starve.

@@noxiouschocolate9644 Licking the blood might actually help with the dehydration, but it'll be dry by the time she'll need it. It's a question mark as to if anyone is going to find her. That many people not coming home from work would raise questions. But if this was a secret facility they lived in and with Homelander in charge of Vought, no one is coming. Something that's funny about the horror is that long after Homelander has left, she's still in the same spot of the room. There's no place to walk around in it that isn't... you know.

Yo good observation

Excellent point lad

Astute eagle iron eye observation. 🔥

Nice one😮

Chill English teacher

Exactly. All of the "I'm so sorry"s weren't them having any remorse for what they did. None of them felt sorry for what they did. They were only sorry they were being held accountable for their actions just like the Nazis who were "just following orders."

They’ll free her up tomorrow

@@Botkilla2K12 dumbest comment ever, comparing to na'zis, why not communists ?

@@linny_pinny…because they did awful things to an (at the time) innocent under the excuse of following orders?

​@linny_pinny because the comparison was made in the video and this series' lore about super powers has nazi experiments involved?

What was the OG scene?

Was it too much even for Anthony?

@ivixo To my understanding, Homelander was originally going to go into the bunker and kill everybody outright. Supposedly, Anthony did not think Homelander would do that; he'd want to draw it out, so to speak, greet them with smiles, and then slowly torcher them.

@@g.r.senterprisevenatorclas7314 oh alright, good thing Anthony spoke up. He made the episode alot better and added more depth

@@ivixo, creative freedom is great

Fr

It gave me Joker vibes (plays Rock n Roll pt 2 in the background)

@@wolfzeru5745yeah, reminds me of joaquin’s joker

Gonna be iconic.

He looks real proud of himself 😅

A train might be able to put up a good fight or just run away he’s too fast for the lasers so his best bet is not letting homelander catch him

@@randomcomment262homelander can fly faster

​@@RTstudios-xs6fw I mean we've only really seen him float. The fastest he flew in the show was when he lasered the jet and I think A-Train is faster than a jet

​@@RTstudios-xs6fwNo the hell he cant.

@@blackanimedude4095fine then, search it up I dare you

I assume that they've got first three as an introduction to the scene. Summing the stuff up before the great show to begin. Hence those wasn't as breathtaking as the "acting" episodes.

At this point any scene other than homelander and butcher feels like fillers

@@Shaunshahriarreal

@@Shaunshahriarreal, I have no interest in Frenchies gay shit or backstory whatsoever or kimikos, don’t care about hughies dad either.

Tbh ep 4 was still pretty bad, only homelander and butcher were actually watchable

That's an interesting take

Dude, why are you censoring your comment? It's not like somebody would ban you for word shitshow... Also; Let's ask question: Why the switch, as you call it, took place? You see, this scene is amazing for one thing. We don't see politics here. What I mean - we, viewers, are not reminded every 5 minutes about republicans vs democrats, about woke left and far right, about how we should behave. It's just raw Homelander. We are watching without breating about what he will do in next 10 second. It's scary. We see him as a pleasant man, but we all know what he is capable of. We all know he is twisted. That is what makes this show amazing. Not moraling about right bad, left good or whatever. But it's Homelander's unpredictable nature that have us on the edge of our seats.

​@@sdhutusice6314nerd

​@@sdhutusice6314well that's a paragraph and a half

Can't believe people review bombed this season, on rotten tomatoes, just based off of 3 episodes

@@sdhutusice6314goof point matey

He’s literally me

Seek help ​@@Rudenbehr

Or homelander decided to go to one of jupiter's moons to protect humanity from himself and then comes back to save everyone in the series finale

@@jamescheddar4896 That sounds like Dr Manhattan’s plot except in Dr Manhattan’s case, he just grew tired of humanity when went to space.

empathize? with him? hahahahaha

If you emphasize with him you’re not seeing the bigger picture

@@johnnyk.4152 I mean you can emphasize with past him in a way like what he is now has to die but you can feel sorry for him and that he became this

I think sympathy is a better word.

That doesnt justify anithing, he is a psycho just like you if you emphathize with him

He just added speed holes, makes you run faster.

🚬🗿

At least he’s got THAT to add to his portfolio.

What, you don't love all the Frenchie shit? Hughie and his mommy issues?? Starlight and her weird botoxed, buccal-scraped face??? you're crazy man.

What are you talking about?

Isn’t the opposite of love apathy?

@@Neewby not according to Elie Wiesel (I found the original quote) but the words are fairly synonymous.

SNL parody: I just want to be loved, is that so WRONG?!!!!

You don't know what the opposite of love is and you're treating some random person's statement as a trustworthy source. Lol, stop that. You don't know shit. Stop analyzing love and homelander as if you're a love expert. It's cringe af.

So what is the opposite of hate?

Snuff. Well said.

100%

Whats that? Lobotomy

@@jaydevacharya12 the thing the deep did to sister sage with the hammer n shit

@@jaydevacharya12 It's a medical procedure from old times but the gist of it is you stick a needle through someone's eye socket into their brain and twirl the needle around to mess up connection inside the brain it was used to "calm down" clinically insane people but in reality it just makes it so that you literally cannot think anymore and some people also say it was used to deal with internal enemies of the state non-lethally "calming" them down as well.

"This is the worst dildo I ever seen" - The Peak

Vought employees don’t leave much. NDAs, too much liability to be let go. What were they doing? The pictures themselves showed Vought producing other supes like Homelander in similar ways. Until Edgar’s leave, they were still running that death camp like business as usual.

@@kingol4801 Makes sense - it's funny they still work on one tiny floor with no renovations or upgrades though

​@@insanecandycane1283 I always assumed that the elevator counting down the floors implied something. Homelander went to the very bottom in the 6th basement level where I assume they would keep a homelander tier supe - why make upgrades when not many people would ever make it to that level?

one of them was doing something with a green liquid, seems like they were researching temp-v maybe?

Or how much he is.

You might need to watch it again. Homelander is the most human character in the show. For better or worse.

they could've shown that

Barbara could have lied about that because if they are trying to create the strongest superhero then they wouldn’t just use a normal woman, my guess his mom is Stormfront

I know The Boys is a grotesque parody, but this is just disgusting.

I think the show has denigrated to just trying to be shocking in every episode. That one guy who could replicate himself tossing his own salad? Totally unnecessary. It wasn't even that funny of a scene either. This season's "The Boys" is a lot worse than previous seasons, with the exception of Homelander's "homecoming" in the latest episode. Hopefully that episode will lead to better episodes in the future instead of more attempts to "shock" the audience.

Trueeee

The following orders thing wouldn't even fly with Homelander because his grudges clearly stem from the fact nobody ever showed any remorse. Frank played games while he burned in that furnace, the others laughed, called him names, or just didn't care. That's worse than anything else and the fact they're still trying to prey on his insecurity trying to lecture what's right and wrong NOW, instead of during his formative years is just another nail in the coffin for these creeps

@@Subpar1O1 Agreed, its why I think the "just following orders" is intended by the writer to induce a Pavlovian response in the viewer. We're conditioned to think that "just following orders" means the worst possible evil. So why in 2024 would characters in a TV show tell Homelander they were "just following orders"? They - as characters in their own reality - are deliberately associating themselves with something which is inexcusable evil. This is a sin of the writer. Within the terms of the setting, Vought - a US corporation led by a man like Stan Edgar - traumatized a child. They got Homelander. Trying to pass off the sins of Vought to "just following orders" is just some weird revenge fantasy insert by the writer who is paid by a US corporation to follow orders.

@@JonWilde2105 The writer wasn't trying to "pass off" anything. The "just following orders" phrase gained notoriety when it was used as a genuine excuse by Nazis during the Nuremberg trials. The idea here is not to pass on the blame but the opposite, to draw parallels between the fictional and real situation and show that just like the Nazis, those individuals are still guilty for their atrocities.

Imagine getting free cake because of it though, and technically, being able to knock off early.

New employees are there to do the same to other kid sups

Exactly, I couldn’t care less about the protagonists. The characters I’ve been the most interested in are A train, soldier boy, og black noir, and homelander

@@lugit36 a train is a very interesting character makes me wonder will he leave the seven

@@lugit36 And Butcher.

@@loudtaste1046he legit cant and he knows it

To be fair main antagonists being the most interesting parts of stories is pretty common for this reason. They are frequently the most captivating.

no, he was very much a villain here. Most of the people he slaughtered were too young to have had anything to do with his twisted upbringing. Maybe they're torturing a new batch of supe kids, but the emptiness of the lab shows otherwise.

@@TheMotherofTacos nah bullshit. they are all working for vought and we know they have plenty kids and shady shit from past seasons. the science division at vaught is evil. i don't feel the least bit sorry for them.

He killed people. He very much did something wrong, don't be a fucking psycho. And he deliberately wanted to be the scary one, the second guy he murdered died as a result of being too scared in that moment. Get your head on straight.

the majority of them had probably been doing similar things to kids at some point before this scene though, especially while stan edgar was still the CEO which wasn't long before this scene

@@bencatzilla exactly! you don't get to that level where you see the true origins of where homelander was raised unless you have high clearance to what vought is doing. they ain't good people.

You copy/pasted that from the African lad that commented it. Unless Portuguese/Spanish/Brazilian people are very familiar with obscure African proverbs. And that proverb is wrong here. If it were accurate, he would have destroyed the facility. That whole bad room was him coming out of his "womb" covered in blood, as close as an adult psychopath could make it to being reborn. Welding the door shut to trap the doctor inside is his psychotic way of saying "You and this place can rot for all I care." He is going for the white house next, he is off the leash, because the old Homelander, John... is dead. He doesn't even want to hear that name anymore. The next episode better be good, because they are headed this way.

too bad Starlights past was pulled out of thin air. The whole point of her character was that she is goody two shoes. The fact that she spread lies about firecracker and that she is *this* easily capable of going into a killing frenzie really eats away at her character. As of right now, her character is basically totally deconstructed. I don't know how they are gonna remedy that.

he was tortured in that room through Experiments on him by the vought scientist.

@@skyjack2600 thanks

bruh do that brain of urs pause when that scene was going it was easy to guess why it was Bad Room literally at last scene how scientists were killed in that room that's exact way those scientists in 1980s did to Homelander

@@GREATEternalWarrior broo chill its not that deep

@@GREATEternalWarrior I cant even read what you are saying, you type like a 7 year old

It would be more accurate to say he is going back to the beginning, to reset himself and become the person he thinks he is. That whole scene in the bad room was him being born again, he kills a bunch of medical staff like the first time, and leaves his birthplace room/womb while he is covered in blood, like a newborn.

Starr's delivery of those lines is perfect. 👌💯

Multi billions. They have endless amount of resources at their hands.

They didn't show him love so they could control him .

If you understood human psychology and was realistic, he gets a pass in general. Children raised by animals (feral children) for too long become amoral, and even upon discovering human civilization never adapt to it… and want to go back to living in the forest. There was a guy raised by wolves all of his life (Wikipedia article on feral children). He would behave like one, and after being re-introduces to human civilization he would only get addictions (cigarettes, etc)…. And no amount of psychology could fix his need to eat the meat raw and want to go back to the woods. In this instance, ALL of Homelander is an immoral being. And yes, same thing - exposure to immoral/amoral conditions for too long just sets the person’s default to something quite tragic. You cannot judge a being like that by the normal human notions of morality. You can, but it will be unfair and a true mismatch. A human being that is beyond traumatized and tortured will not magically understand notions of “good” or “evil”. Their definitions will be broken. People assume morality is an internal thing, but it is 100% nurture. A human without teaching of morality will not develop it. They can, but it will not be as developed as a civilizations one. Same thing as any other science. A human can intuitively learn how to count or even maybe multiply. But that is as far as their math will go by themselves re-inventing it. A human that was grown without formal math teaching will fail to produce that knowledge at the level of other “normal” people. Their brain structure and way of thinking will be all wrong. Same thing here. Homelander is a “bad victim”. The kind of being who is not at fault in any way, since their entire existence is a manufactured nightmare…. But vengeful and unlikable nonetheless. Obviously, the only moral thing there is for Homelander to do is to cease to exist. Regardless of whose fault it is, he will forever be in pain and hurting. “Hurt people hurt people”. But everything, every malice and inability to adapt to normal human environment and intra-human conditioning moral is just not his fault. He is permanently damaged at a very core by others, and cannot physically do that. In a similar way how a feral child/adult will never be able to become “normal”. Just too much brain damage.

@@kingol4801 I’m not reading all that

​@@kingol4801I have some news for you buddy, humans are apex predators. Do wolves cook meat in a frying pan?

@@kingol4801 that sad moment when you write something only a guy with a functional brain could write but then a p3do says “I won’t read that” 😂😂😂

@@Canyon_StormI didn’t read all of it either

Jessica Chao, who wrote "She-Hulk" is one of the writers this season. That's why the show is off it's game.

homlander 🤤🤤

Homelander

Homeflander

homlander

homlonder

Won’t work. Same as to how a feral child cannot revert back to normal after all those years.

Bro gonna laser the therapist

The Boys is already his show

@@SSJKDotsSanctum I think he means like when he first started or his childhood

If we get a show like Sopranos with Tony being the centre, homelander deserves more minutes, more more more homelander