Quinn Synder is a real one for even saying something. Some coaches make you feel like you did something wrong and don't tell you anything.

This is literally how life is for everyone, everyday.. you do everything right and it’s still “it is what it is” - only ONLY difference is you’re making a ton of money for it.

This def what Cam Thomas is going thru in Brooklyn right now lol

Basketball has always been a business, most nba players don’t realize this until they make it to the nba because everyone is on the same level until contracts come into play

This is life tho. You work hard but it doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed anything.

Theo might not be on a team right now but this podcast been carrying all year my favorite NBA podcast by a player

EVERY nba player goes through this. People who belong will adjust & always find their way back. He didn't or COULDN'T.

I admire his honesty and im glad he is happier, but you cant expect to make that kind of income and not feel the influence and political pressure of the business part.

Cool thing about social media. We learn so much more what behind the scenes is like.

Great discussion guys! Hope only the best for yall!

4:13 I was just about to comment “From afar it looks like Theo going through the same sh!t. But his attitude is what has kept him around

I’d take this 1000 percent over dealing with corporate America

Mudiay didn't have the mental make up to be a great player and this interview confirms it.

Found out the difference between Basketball and PRO basketball. Its Professional Ball for a reason

I like these conversations. We see what goes on behind the scenes. You take any of these players and put them in a foreign league and they’re killing it. The same foreign players that can go head to head with people from the US. I know this is a business but it has to be more basketball than business.

A lot of ppl saying real life for everyone is like this, but that’s not quite the case. It hits different when you’re playing a GAME that you have honed and yet you have no control over anything. My college coach did the same thing to me, even when I played good. Except he never pulled me in his office to keep it a buck with me. Instead, when he pulled me in, he said he’d rather lose with “his” guys than win with me. That shit hurt my pro career. I went overseas and did great but couldn’t get any big contracts because I kept losing out to “…guys who also played D1 but actually have stats”. By my third season (averaging 20 and 8 in Chile) I just gave up. Haven’t really touched a basketball since. I hate it now

What he won’t talk about is him being the 7th overall pick and not being able to shoot the ball efficiently. He had keys handed to him in Denver and he didn’t maximize his potential. You can keep the excuses it is what it is. Stand on that

Emmunial mudiay was the 7th pick, he legit has no excuses outside of his own play😂

The 20mil guard I’m guessing is Mike Conley, and at that time even with Mudiay playing well, I don’t see any team benching Conley for Mudiay

Really love y'all perspective of the ins and outs of being a role player in the league.

Imagine going thru this in high school and losing that love early. S/o to the one who fought through it

I want to clear things up a little bit. What he is saying is true to an extent. There are politics in professional sports but at the end of the day, the name of the game is winning. Winning is good business, and if you’re good enough, you will be on the court! He may have been more talented than certain players on the team but he may not have been exactly what the team needed. It is that simple!

Played against both of these men in highschool. Killas 💪🏽

This man needs a reality check. Conley, Donovan and Jordan Clarkson were all objectively better than him, and the only one making over $20 million that season was Conley, who was an all star the following season. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. He just wasn’t as good as he thinks he is.

Mike Conley was way faster , could shoot , and had winning experience from playing in Memphis he definitely was going to get 20 mil n minutes

We need guys like this coaching on the grassroots and college levels to really give these kids the game. Because now the "business" aka the politics of it all starts as early as high school. We need coaches who have been through it and can tell these kids the truth

Emmanuel Mudiay? Yoooo he don’t even look the same

Dang that’s crazy, this is side of sports you don’t see or hear about.

Man this speaks volumes, the NBA is wicked

This is very well said Emann. It’s love in Dallas.

You have to be down with the brotherhood. The G

Shoutout Theo Pinson man one of my favorite Heels of all time! Ik he can play & be that scrappy lead guard

Hilarious he’s talking about Mike Conley in 2019-2020

He wasn’t destroying his opponent in practice.!!!

He was 2 way playmaker for the Knicks. Payton and him.

Tough ..& theo had some big games in Dallas. Looked like a good fit.

It really does suck but it just is what it is. I'm sure every person who has ever made it to the NBA grew up with that vision of the clock counting down with the ball in their hands to take the final shot. You then do all the things you need to do to make it to the NBA, the league where that dream you had growing up takes place, just to end up not even being to get minutes because another guy who makes money is also on the team, and the best your coach can do is basically tell you that his hands are tied

I can relate went thru this same stuff in D1 football

This is why team USA always getting cooked. Business over hoops

Mudiay was supposed to be a top 5 PG imo ,but i 100% get not wanting to play the "industry games "

Business is cutthroat no matter how you look at it. I guess for the NBA it’s super strict; 15 guys to a roster so there’s little room for error. Guys at the end of the bench are probably grinding in practice every day just to keep their spots.

It makes total sense he didn’t love it, you could tell by how he played.

Will never forget that tough ass buzzer beater he had on the sixers

Eman been good for so long it probably was a shock that he wasn’t the greatest and he shrunk from competition and ran from the grind

This is deep

I just went through this playing my first season of ABA .. team was 4-4 before I joined .. we finished the season 14-5, ending on a 10 game winning streak .. I averaged 20ppg, 3 rebs, 4 asst, 1.5 stls .. championship game was this past Sunday and I played 6 total minutes! I was shocked and hurt .. not to mention we lost by 30 .. bad coaching and politics can truly ruin a team/player/season 🤦🏾‍♂️

Theo Pinson was Cold asf at NC THE LEAGUE BE BLACKBALLING

Excuses , if you worked on your game more and developed a 3 point shot you could of been a top 5 guard

I mean, Jordan Clarkson a hooper too

Not true……it depends on the coach and situation for example Evan Fournier makes 19 million a year and is out the rotation

Yeah im grabbing it now

Real basketball fans know it’s real politics involved some people have a whole career on the floor and others have to fight just to touch it …. We watch these players since high school probably even earlier and in this social media area we literally see the work they putting into the game in real time so that bust stuff isn’t as transparent anymore …. Teams will draft a player knowing their game and not appreciate their game …. They’ll drop people in the g league and completely forget about them , they’ll starve them of playing time and highlight every mistake they make when they do get a little …. Only a few teams in the league excel in developing young talent the rest play mind games chew players up and spit them out … for the sake of the team and business…. It’s funny how all this happens to players who love the game just as much as the stars getting the spotlight and everyone alike just writes it off but the whole NBA community advocates for mental health when the higher ups and fans alike are really truly causing it

I find it funny that a guy who went to play pro basketball in China as a teenager to get paid suddenly doesnt love the business of basketball when it no longer suits him...sounds like major denial and lack of accountability

Must depend on the organization because every year there are random dudes and undrafted guys that get a shot and end up with a contract And then you have guys like evan fournier sitting on bench for 2 seasons straight and he costing the team millions

It’s facts both of theses guys are ballers in high school

I don't make any value judgment regarding the mindset of any particular player or of one era vs. another. However, I think that long time basketball fans sense that today's players don't love the game, on average of course, compared to players from the past. All sports have more competition now from the increase in entertainment options, international sport like soccer, MMA, etc., but NBA ratings are way down over the last 20 years. That's not good for the game and I think the feeling that today's players don't really love the game has something to do with the reason that March Madness is so huge. It just seems like the college players care more about the game. When they lose they look devastated. They have that fire in their eyes we remember from the Celtics/Lakers/Pistons playoff games. This is a problem that the NBA needs to deal with and I don't claim to know how to do that. It's possible that some of today's players would never have been pros in the 80s given the lower salaries. Maybe you had to really love the game to play for 250k a year (which was still a pretty good salary in the 80s or even for anyone today aside from tech CEOs, surgeons and athletes).

They gave this brother the keys in New York and I can only remember two or so games where he shined.

I thought it was Corey Holcomb 😂

That's why heatculture be hitting different

Long story short he was in his feelings, and didn't understand NBA business/politics

Facts he’s saying big big facts.. this is a business

It's business!

this is the 4th podcast in 2 days where I heard a player say this

He gotta be talking about Mike Conley Jr.

Fam during that Process Era..... I wanted you on the Sixers... keep working bul

Mudiay didn’t work on his jumper including his 3 point shot. You know that reminds me of Ben Simmons but Mudiay wasn’t entitled and spoiled like Ben since a teenager.

This one my favorite player when he was in high school

This is the reason why I stopped pursuing professional basketball- I was playing pro in the TBL league and you have to remember these teams have to produce money / sell tickets - My minutes we’re going to a 5’9 guard that had a big instagram following- smh this is when basketball becomes frustrating dealing with the politics

This is why I have no issue when players push to get paid in their respective leagues.

He’s probably referring to Mike Conley

Mudiay wasn't making 20 million a year and he started on the knicks. Jamal Murray wasn't making 20 and he took Mudiay sporting Denver

I slick thought that was Corey Holcomb in the thumbnail for a little while

This is probably what Ben Simmons been feeling like

Every year there is a draft ,and every team has 15 players in roster. What do you think will happen? The player that was good to make the roster will no longer be good no matter what the following year because someone younger or better is coming. That's the name of the game.

This is how I felt when i started playing college football lol.

I went to the Jordan classic game that he played in the Barklay and he was the best player on the court easily

Man I thought this thumbnail was Corey Holcomb lol

remembered dude from prime prep

Bruh you playing behind Conley !

God is good. God bless

The "so and so" he said Quin Snyder would play ahead of him seems like Mike Conley but it's probably Jordan Clarkson on Bogdan Bogdanovic

How do the greats stay at the top.. what’s the difference??

Theo is a Goat 🐐🔥🔒🗣💪👑

He found its control

Kenny Atkinson a real one tho

damn that really mf sucks, im sittin here really feelin for mudiay… i used to rock wit bro on 2k n all and when he disappeared i did no research and just wondered but hearing this hurts the heart man… losing love for basketball in basketball’s highest stage… i can’t even imagine

Respect to all the driven folks in the comments. Stay great.

Dude getting emotional instead of getting that check

Lmao he talkin bout mike conely or Dante exum lol

Man this why I kinda stopped trying to play college basketball. I was better than some dudes but bc coach gotta long relationship with you and kno ya family he looking out for the cookout. Freshman in HS I worked harder than a lot of mfs but had to “pay my dues” bc ima freshman

At least you made it to the NBA. Be grateful

He was never a better pg than Mike Conley 😂😂😂

If they saying that now just imagine how it was in the 90s. Players were literally controlled on the court and business-wise.

He benefited starting as the 7th pick, Jameer Nelson had to play back up, while this dude wasn't ready. You cant complain about the same thing happening to you later lol

If he had met expectations as a rookie, he would have been fine

Bro had work

What he is saying is the Cam Thomas situation with my Nets

Since it’s such a business, I think staff needs to start saying “we’re thinking about sitting you for the season and probably gonna trade you” instead of “stay ready, the league isn’t fair, blah blah blah”

Show me a team that wants a starting PG that cant shoot 3s. Also the guy only played more than 60 games in his rookie year, always injured. There's a reason why some of these guys are out of the league.

That is basketball and life! Happens all the time at the playground or Gym The hoopers dont always get picked up guys tend to pick up players they’re comfortable with. A couple book suggestions for this topic: ‘The 48 Laws of Power’ By Robert Greene ‘How to win friends and influence people’ by Dale Carnegie ‘The art of the deal’ By Donald fj Trump ‘Think and Grow Rich’ By Napoleon Hill Just to name a handful. Visualize what you want to become write a plan and execute take Action. Focusing on what you want rather then what you do not want. “The grass you water will be the greenest”