This Is NOT How People Talk

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Nerdstalgic

Nerdstalgic

3 жыл бұрын

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Dialogue writing in film is far from a science. From Pulp Fiction and Tarantino to The Social Network, films have a writing style that is sometimes instantly recognizable. Sometimes, movie characters don’t talk the way we think they should, that might be ok.
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@Nerdstalgic
@Nerdstalgic 3 жыл бұрын
What is the best movie you've seen recently? Looking for recommendations. Also, I made a passing comment about Jennifer’s body here and vampires, obviously a film about possession, but she essentially behaves like a vampire in the film. Hence the comment lol doesn’t have much to do with the video but wanted to clarify for anyone that hasn’t already seen the film.
@Alexycy100
@Alexycy100 3 жыл бұрын
Jojo Rabbit!
@graemeirwin9957
@graemeirwin9957 3 жыл бұрын
Kung fu panda 3
@julianstrutt434
@julianstrutt434 3 жыл бұрын
apostle (caution gore, but incredible)
@jolanjakers8380
@jolanjakers8380 3 жыл бұрын
The wailing, antiporno, baby driver, midsommer
@legocreator2007
@legocreator2007 3 жыл бұрын
The lighthouse! Such a fantastic movie! And it definitely deserves a video from the one and only nerdstalgic!
@whoisgliese
@whoisgliese 3 жыл бұрын
Non naturalistic dialogs aren't what the characters would say, they are what the characters wish they had said when they replay the conversation in their heads while showering
@2099vision
@2099vision 2 жыл бұрын
valid
@gustavopereira4924
@gustavopereira4924 2 жыл бұрын
So?
@whoisgliese
@whoisgliese 2 жыл бұрын
@@gustavopereira4924 so?
@superieur11407
@superieur11407 2 жыл бұрын
@@whoisgliese so?
@whoisgliese
@whoisgliese 2 жыл бұрын
@@superieur11407 so.
@shananvarsha
@shananvarsha 3 жыл бұрын
You can't talk about realistic dialogue without talking about The Room.
@jsuisdetrop
@jsuisdetrop 3 жыл бұрын
you can
@alenanela1743
@alenanela1743 3 жыл бұрын
"I did not hit her. I did naaaaaat!!! Oh hi Mark" I heard someone say that last week.
@saimahramen
@saimahramen 3 жыл бұрын
... where it happened.
@thebelx89
@thebelx89 3 жыл бұрын
Can't forget The Breakup and Revolutionary Road
@jamietooth3939
@jamietooth3939 3 жыл бұрын
YoU'rE tEAriNg mE ApARt, LiSa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Rose-hh7mk
@Rose-hh7mk Жыл бұрын
I always found a big difference between film dialogue and how normal people talk is that in movies, they speak full, eloquent monologues. In real life, you would probably stumble your words, pause to think of what to say, and get interrupted by someone.
@Rose-hh7mk
@Rose-hh7mk Жыл бұрын
After watching the video, Marriage Story is a great example of the way people actually talk
@charlestonealmacen
@charlestonealmacen Жыл бұрын
Or the Before Trilogy! It had such realistic talk
@Rose-hh7mk
@Rose-hh7mk Жыл бұрын
@@charlestonealmacen I haven't seen those! I'll have to have a look.
@bills-7693
@bills-7693 Жыл бұрын
i’ve been thinking this
@wubiloubidibieeee715
@wubiloubidibieeee715 Жыл бұрын
@@charlestonealmacen I think it's partly because it contains a lot of long takes, where the camera is focused on the two people talking nonstop, so that it all seems very natural, fluid and realistic!
@izz9535
@izz9535 8 ай бұрын
I think an unnaturalistic dialogue is like a text between two people. We wait the other person to finish saying their words, we think a little before we text so that we have a better choice of words and expressing our thoughts. There is no stutter, pause or repeating in a text. Its the way we imagine a conversation with someone in our heads. Simply flawless
@pablorepetto7804
@pablorepetto7804 6 ай бұрын
I'd wish people actually texted like that.
@Turtledira
@Turtledira 6 ай бұрын
I read this as if it were pulled straight from this video essay. And no i wouldn't normally call it a "video essay". I had to think through my vocabulary first. 😄
@ajc1080
@ajc1080 Ай бұрын
​@@pablorepetto7804Yeah I agree, the thinking doesn't really lead to a better word choice for me... Often the more I think about a text the stranger it becomes. Better to go with my first response, however flawed it may be.
@Drakonus_
@Drakonus_ 3 жыл бұрын
Me not being a native English speaker: Wait, it sounds normal though.
@davidec.4021
@davidec.4021 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao thanks
@bene4086
@bene4086 3 жыл бұрын
Well I think that would be because the majority of English dialogue is in some way scripted. You don't really get to speak the day to day English like the people living in the USA.
@Mediocre_Comments
@Mediocre_Comments 3 жыл бұрын
I think if English is somebody's first language there is so much context in the way we speak because of social norms or cultural reasons, or what's normal and what's not. We can learn languages academically but emotion and context is really important. Like if someone says " what is wrong with you?" The manner in which they say it can change the whole meaning.
@ivyinabottle
@ivyinabottle 3 жыл бұрын
Totally me! I’m not exposed to native English speakers often other than my teachers, and most of my experience with the language stems from movies, books and music. It all seems normal to me because I’ve never been in an English speaking environment for long.
@Mo0nlitMoth
@Mo0nlitMoth 3 жыл бұрын
same
@BonazaiGirl
@BonazaiGirl 3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t anyone mention the masterful dialogue in The Room? “Oh, hi Mark.”
3 жыл бұрын
That's *Quantum Dialogue*
@Slashco
@Slashco 3 жыл бұрын
I did not hit her, I did naaawt!
@DH-gq7bm
@DH-gq7bm 3 жыл бұрын
*oh god oh man oh god oh man oh god oh man oh god*
@teacherfromthejungles6671
@teacherfromthejungles6671 3 жыл бұрын
you're my best friend!
@ajc94
@ajc94 3 жыл бұрын
Leave your stupid comments in your pocket!
@headkingdom9266
@headkingdom9266 Жыл бұрын
Its all about perspective- the more people I meet and interact with in life, the more i realize that even the most outlandish-seeming characters and dialogue can definitely be found in real life. Its one of the things that makes meeting new people unique
@brunoactis1104
@brunoactis1104 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it goes by a name; charisma.
@smartwater598
@smartwater598 10 ай бұрын
Yeah this video was dum narrow minded video
@Elamado97
@Elamado97 8 ай бұрын
Because qe have all been programmed continuously from watching movies, its not that they are real, they are just made real.
@mewowow
@mewowow 3 ай бұрын
same, a few of my 'friends' have a cartoonish-like way of talking and its interesting to see
@Onlinerando
@Onlinerando Ай бұрын
No, not really. This comment completely misses the point of the video. This video isn’t about knowing different types of people, it’s about communication. In real life people just don’t communicate like characters on tv shows and movies do. In real life there is more interrupting, more stumbling over words, and, probably most importantly in this context, way more subtext involved. All things that make it incredibly hard for an audience to follow a plot.
@teegee613
@teegee613 Жыл бұрын
When I was a young kid I was super shy and awkward. Since I wasn’t very social I would frame how I interacted with people based off movie dialogue…that made it so much worse lmao.
@spongenoob4409
@spongenoob4409 Жыл бұрын
Same-💀
@princesswaspp
@princesswaspp 2 ай бұрын
super shy super shy but wait a minute while i make you mine make you mine
@Whoyouwishyouwere
@Whoyouwishyouwere Ай бұрын
Lol wtf
@irishspagetti6565
@irishspagetti6565 28 күн бұрын
Yeah try acting like Samuel L Jackson in Pulp Fiction and see how far that gets you, they would call the police or you will be laughed out of the room
@ShadowReaper-pu2hx
@ShadowReaper-pu2hx 28 күн бұрын
Me FR.
@mistertwister2000
@mistertwister2000 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t like sand. It’s coarse, and rough, and irritating. And it gets everywhere.
@chuckaule6292
@chuckaule6292 3 жыл бұрын
such perfection, it really is ideal dialogue
@hujan1744
@hujan1744 3 жыл бұрын
The most real a dialog ever put in the media
@MrParkerman6
@MrParkerman6 3 жыл бұрын
It's like Poetry. It Rhymes!
@harpseal9234
@harpseal9234 3 жыл бұрын
"SHUT UP RANDOM JEDI" !!
@jotarokujo1561
@jotarokujo1561 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to learn this power? I pledge myself to your teachings
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the way he speaks works? Because he's Samuel L. Jackson
@emperoranubis_tcxxx664
@emperoranubis_tcxxx664 3 жыл бұрын
OMG your even here?! Why? Dude Your a Legend 😂🤣
@PaizuruInsanal
@PaizuruInsanal 3 жыл бұрын
@Quinn McDonnell He has many copycats, you gotta watch out.
@gabrielcampuzano3552
@gabrielcampuzano3552 3 жыл бұрын
For a moment I thought you put. Because it's Motherf***king Samuel L Jackson.
@Kaiwala
@Kaiwala 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, with respect, shoo.
@sheperinogaming1986
@sheperinogaming1986 3 жыл бұрын
He's hamuel L. Jackson from the movie pork fiction.
@StrugglerIndeed
@StrugglerIndeed Жыл бұрын
The fact that this video used the OST from Arrival, a movie about interpreting an alien language while discussing film dialogue and natural language, just reinforces how wonderful this channel is.
@MetalizedButt
@MetalizedButt Жыл бұрын
Is it the track at 9:15? Sounds so familiar
@ohhimark8028
@ohhimark8028 Жыл бұрын
that's not the OST, it's a licensed piece by Max Richter Denis Villeneuve specifically wanted to use
@ahealthkit2745
@ahealthkit2745 Жыл бұрын
It's just On The Nature Of Daylight by Max Richter. I swear I've heard it in more than just The Arrival (great movie btw) but I've heard it most recently in episode 3 of The Last Of Us. It's a very emotionally resonant song but the rest of the songs off the same album, The Blue Notebook by Max Richter is very good. I also really enjoy his other material. Very introspective-feeling music.
@dryback9
@dryback9 Жыл бұрын
Also used in shutter Island
@StrugglerIndeed
@StrugglerIndeed 11 ай бұрын
@@ohhimark8028 Great to know. I'll be sure to read more about it.
@angiegray4987
@angiegray4987 2 ай бұрын
The dialogue and non-linear storyline are what made Pulp Fiction so good and iconic.
@communismwithgiggles2515
@communismwithgiggles2515 3 жыл бұрын
"Nobody talks like this." Yoda: "Human, I am not. On you, the joke is."
@yurimessiah
@yurimessiah 3 жыл бұрын
lmaoo
@doomwalker9934
@doomwalker9934 3 жыл бұрын
You sound like a Nigerian
@yurimessiah
@yurimessiah 3 жыл бұрын
@@doomwalker9934 ??
@communismwithgiggles2515
@communismwithgiggles2515 3 жыл бұрын
@@yurimessiah I think he means me
@communismwithgiggles2515
@communismwithgiggles2515 3 жыл бұрын
@@doomwalker9934 Nigerian Yoda
@psychicjellyfish9466
@psychicjellyfish9466 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like naturalistic dialogue is severely under appreciated. It just makes characters easier to listen to.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 3 жыл бұрын
Same! Even though I would rather use it for humans. The anthropomorphic animals however, need exaggerated dialogue and that’s okay.
@sharonkadach6900
@sharonkadach6900 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@nottravix1353
@nottravix1353 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny that it’s true for a lot of people considering that for some people who don’t get much interaction I’m sure that the Tarantino style is easier to actually digest and understand. But honestly naturalistic dialogue feels raw, emotional, and interesting. It’s makes you understand the movie might not have so much action but it’s going to be super relatable
@ChaosTool93
@ChaosTool93 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, but i have to say there is also a huge problem most people forget, for everyone who is not born in an english speaking country its exactly the opposite. Especially when the movie only exists in English. If you are not used to hearing that way of speaking on a day-to-day basis you have a extremely hard time understanding anything at all, the same way some actors mumble to make a character seem more real, it feels alienating for people who speak English as a second language, so for a huge part of the world. Sure they can change the language to their own of this opinion exists but then you also loose a big part of what makes an actor interesting. People should be aware of that
@moorbilt
@moorbilt 3 жыл бұрын
Easy to understand? Natural spoken word is more of a puzzle than a carefully worded script, how many times have you or another used the wrong words, didn't make clear what you actually mean or just fail to find the right word. At least actors are on the same page, realistic dialogue is often a mess. Contrary to what Nerd said, i find people use words as tools to getting what they want, using words as weapons. Words tend to be re-defined moment to moment resulting in words having lost their original meaning.
@Tser
@Tser Жыл бұрын
I think "naturalistic dialogue" in films generally leaves out several aspects of actual natural language. It's rare for writers to include lots of "pause fillers" like um and er, which are derided in public speaking but an important cue in communication between people in real life. "Huh?" or "what?" are only used if a character is meant to be self-centered or rude, when really there are lots of reasons people need someone to repeat what they said. They also leave out the slow pace of many conversations, and particularly the awkward pauses. When dialogue *does* include these things, I've noticed, instead of feeling realistic and natural, in film it comes across as surreal.
@SpaceMissile
@SpaceMissile 4 ай бұрын
I'm imagining a book playing around with this; could have two characters' words printed over the top of each other when they start to speak over one another. would be gimmicky, but kinda fun.
@MysticTech
@MysticTech 3 ай бұрын
if something is a little too human-like it can come across as uncanny.i suppose this also applies to dialogue in movies.
@serene-illusion
@serene-illusion Жыл бұрын
I think Smiling Friends is one of the examples of naturalistic dialogue in a comedic setting done right. The way characters often overlap their dialogue in the most mundane conversations, how their eyes and faces dart everywhere when they're listening to someone else talking, and all the self-interruptuons mid sentence. "you know like obvi- yeah...you know?" I think it's brilliant.
@plootyluvsturtle9843
@plootyluvsturtle9843 Жыл бұрын
the fricken phone call in smiling friends go to brazil is one of the most accurate and relatable things i think i have ever seen
@iamlegend5373
@iamlegend5373 Жыл бұрын
it seems improvised sometimes
@CarlosC0311
@CarlosC0311 10 ай бұрын
I truly believe smiling friends is a great example of good writing
@dir-gk
@dir-gk 5 ай бұрын
this and home movies definitely feel real and i appreciate them so much, partially because they are REAL(ly) improvised :) .
@Electric0eye
@Electric0eye 11 күн бұрын
I adore the dialogue in SF for exactly this reason. First thing I thought of
@SnakPak
@SnakPak 3 жыл бұрын
"Nobody talks like Jules" I knew a guy who talked exactly like Jules. Exactly. Even unironically misquoting bible verses to excuse violence.
@johnindigo5477
@johnindigo5477 3 жыл бұрын
So he sounds like samuel l jackson
@udpierced
@udpierced 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnindigo5477 holy fuck this guy met samuel l jackson
@SnakPak
@SnakPak 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnindigo5477 yes but even more hostile
@jairusmaximus
@jairusmaximus 3 жыл бұрын
I think the point is that you need two or more people to make a conversation, and even if you somehow find someone who do speaks like Jules, they probably won't get a conversation like the ones featured in these films because of everything else.
@jalabala2772
@jalabala2772 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo
@andrewplehn4805
@andrewplehn4805 3 жыл бұрын
A video about how people talk spoken entirely in "video essay" voice.
@SodiumWage
@SodiumWage 3 жыл бұрын
A comment about how people talk written entirely in "haughty commenter" tone.
@andrewplehn4805
@andrewplehn4805 3 жыл бұрын
@@SodiumWage Well played sir
@RhysGBiv
@RhysGBiv 3 жыл бұрын
@@SodiumWage a reply about how people write, written entirely in a “cleverly superior” voice
@Victorsandergamer
@Victorsandergamer 3 жыл бұрын
@@RhysGBiv a, um, like, how's the name of that? ah yeah yeah, a-a reply about these stuff, written entirely these in movie quote sorta shit
@mastod0n1
@mastod0n1 3 жыл бұрын
I know you're making a joke, but a "video essay voice" works for a video essay and "unnatural movie dialogue" works for movies where the characters aren't supposed to be relatable or "real" people. When the writers or director try to present a character that you're supposed to believe could be someone who lives next door and they speak in perfect "movie dialogue" it can be jarring.
@rizkiagustian7640
@rizkiagustian7640 Жыл бұрын
It's pretty difficult to write a structured narrative with truly realistic dialogue. A lot of times, conversations don't have real clear intent. They just happen. Even when there is clear intent, the words that need to be said are often not said and when they are, their generally not poetic nor are they attention-grabbing. Real life drama takes very long to unfold and navigate through and most times people aren't even sure what the source of the drama was. Even I'm finding it difficult in my attempt to put words together to explain how messy real life conversations and drama is. For example, you could just simply drift away from old friends not due to a big event or a big fight, but you just simply care less and less about them or you quietly realize that you never really valued their friendship or something. Or maybe a big fight does happen but it's normal to just not see each other again some time and then act like nothing happened when you meet each other again. I've known people like this. No dramatic talks about making up and setting aside differences. In a movie, this would be jarring and may confuse the audience. Basically, real life is messy. In order to tell an effective story, most of the time, a structured narrative is required. So real life needs to be heightened just a little.
@Brisbae
@Brisbae Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how many different artforms go into making a film. From the obvious to the minute, whether it be dialogue, cinematography or acting, all the way down to sound design, typography, colour grading, editing, vfx, production design, costume design, etc. As a musical artist I love the fact that everything I make is 99% my own work. Sure, we use drum recordings, maybe a few ad-libs etc, but for the most part, I can put out a song and confidently say that I produced the entire thing - it all came from me. I think if I were in film I'd be a little proud, or stubborn. I'd want to do EVERYTHING myself to achieve my vision, which just isn't practical on the enormous scale of a feature length film. And I know the director kind of oversees each step, but they're still at the mercy of hundreds of people. I really just admire how cohesively so many different people can work together to create something beautiful that makes sense.
@adityam4263
@adityam4263 10 ай бұрын
I don't "adorable" is the word for it.
@alexisaguirre6349
@alexisaguirre6349 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, man. As someone that is in both the film and music world, I can tell you that film has taught me how to work well with other people and let them contribute ideas in my music. I’m getting better at it everyday
@SilvrDragon52
@SilvrDragon52 3 жыл бұрын
Tarantino writes language as if the characters are actually listening to eachother. Not unrealistic, but rare.
@noone-ss8lu
@noone-ss8lu 2 жыл бұрын
This dragon guy fucks
@epiclasersharks1866
@epiclasersharks1866 2 жыл бұрын
it makes the characters words and ideas feel very deliberate
@paulgreengod
@paulgreengod 2 жыл бұрын
@@noone-ss8lu his fleshlight
@darthbigred22
@darthbigred22 2 жыл бұрын
yeah if you ignore that cops and criminals do not talk like cinema geeks
@tareklegrand7747
@tareklegrand7747 2 жыл бұрын
@@darthbigred22 are you a cop ? or a criminal ?
@milktea6676
@milktea6676 3 жыл бұрын
How do people talk again it’s been 8 months Since i’ve talked to one
@mauroinentertainment
@mauroinentertainment 3 жыл бұрын
You've missed a lot more than "a gas shortage & a flock of seagulls". Stay as you are. lol.
@megkrish7568
@megkrish7568 3 жыл бұрын
So true🤣🤣
@mjolninja9358
@mjolninja9358 3 жыл бұрын
Milk tea I asked my neighbor who he is and if he’s a his and his he’s he said hee hee
@ronnickels5193
@ronnickels5193 3 жыл бұрын
8 months? Try it for 25 years to get on my level.
@eghoseisiramen1892
@eghoseisiramen1892 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronnickels5193 painn
@adnanmutlu1972
@adnanmutlu1972 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant background music choice in this video. Really allows your words to not just be heard, but felt.
@KWIP8581
@KWIP8581 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy this style of video. It’s cool to compare a lot of different styles and examples covering a topic. I like the vids on a specific show/movie, but this is really compelling. Great job!
@Not_Soundwave
@Not_Soundwave 3 жыл бұрын
The most realistic dialogue pacing I've seen so far is in Uncut Gems. That constant overlapping over others and the repetition of sentences is _exactly_ how people talk -and it stressed me the hell out-
@bleaky8885
@bleaky8885 3 жыл бұрын
it made me angry; Adam Sandler did a great job playing such a goddamn annoying character
@niftyskates85
@niftyskates85 3 жыл бұрын
Loved that movie
@ShippSheroo
@ShippSheroo 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. I was kinda sad that Uncut Gems wasn’t mentioned. Silver Lining’s Playbook had that same manic energy in the dialogue too.
@squishgod9094
@squishgod9094 3 жыл бұрын
Meyerowitz Stories also has that, again it's Adam Sandler.
@lucascerimeli312
@lucascerimeli312 3 жыл бұрын
Dude Uncut Gems is a great movie, but I'll NEVER watch it again cuz if I do I'll have a heart attack no cap
@andrewdevine3920
@andrewdevine3920 3 жыл бұрын
"Everyone in the movie talks like Quentin Tarantino, except Quentin Tarantino, because when he does show up his staggeringly bad acting means he can't even deliver lines in the style of Quentin Tarantino." - Mark Kermode
@benjaminfritz1071
@benjaminfritz1071 3 жыл бұрын
Hey this is kind of random but I am going mad... what song is playing 0:10-0:44? It’s on the tip of my tongue but I just can’t remember. I’ve been obsessing over it for the past 24 hours... It sounds a bit like Her or Revolutionary Roads.
@guskelty9105
@guskelty9105 3 жыл бұрын
@@bucketarchitect Hand Covers Bruise
@benjaminfritz1071
@benjaminfritz1071 3 жыл бұрын
@@bucketarchitect thanks!
@OBtheamazing
@OBtheamazing 3 жыл бұрын
"shut up blacky"
@ahobimo732
@ahobimo732 3 жыл бұрын
I used to assume this was the case, but more recently, I've been questioning whether there might be more to it. By portraying the biggest loser in every one of his films that he appears in, Tarantino was able to get away with things that he might have otherwise been criticized for (such as, for example, using the N-word).
@Aflay1
@Aflay1 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most important videos I've ever seen in terms of screenwriting. I love this channel.
@charalambosdamianou3933
@charalambosdamianou3933 Жыл бұрын
I wrote my thesis few years back on this matter... It brings so many memories back! Nice video and keep it Up!
@mercyxmutual
@mercyxmutual 3 жыл бұрын
Omg one day I noticed how unhuman dialogue can be in tv and movies and I cant unsee it. It’s horrible
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm. I’ve also found out how unrealistic dialogue can be in certain shows and films.
@ritvik9489
@ritvik9489 3 жыл бұрын
When its that noticeable, its just bad writing. Its not you, its the setting and characters not matching the dialouge.
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 3 жыл бұрын
Ritvik depends on the universe though. I wouldn’t expect someone a long time ago in a galaxy far far away to talk like your average Joe from earth nowadays.
@ritvik9489
@ritvik9489 3 жыл бұрын
@@Slender_Man_186true. Setting is important.
@kev_whatev
@kev_whatev 3 жыл бұрын
I always annoy my wife by pointing out exposition lol
@LaundryFaerie
@LaundryFaerie 3 жыл бұрын
Ideal language is what I've often referred to as "people don't talk this way in real life, but when you hear it, you kind of wish they would."
@timseguine2
@timseguine2 2 жыл бұрын
It also follows the literary goal of: people in fiction should be more interesting than real people, because real people are usually boring.
@kstar1489
@kstar1489 2 жыл бұрын
@@timseguine2 eh, not necessarily. It’s that we often don’t get to know and understand real people. People’s humanity and interest is not laid out for us neatly in narrative or stylized dialogue
@SauloA333
@SauloA333 2 жыл бұрын
@@timseguine2 I disagree, people are interesting, quite interesting. But they are not expressed as a film with, quirky Heightened dialogue, you have to get to know them. That's the difference in fiction because we are already in the context of the characters and their mentalities.
@unterdessen8822
@unterdessen8822 2 жыл бұрын
@@kstar1489 My friend Tina kept saying, "I always fall in love with fictional characters instead of real people, because I know them inside out. Fictional characters are explained to me. I understand their backstory, their motives, their feelings. Real people are just this blurry, chaotic mass."
@eosborne6495
@eosborne6495 2 жыл бұрын
My brother described Tarantino writing as “you know that perfect comeback that you think of a few seconds too late? Tarantino characters always land that comeback, first time, every time.”
@NatiiixLP
@NatiiixLP Жыл бұрын
If anyone is curious, the track at 7:39 is The Nature of Daylight by Max Richter, one of my favourite pieces, the appearance of which in media I always appreciate (another example of its appearance is the introduction scene of the film Arrival).
@Zenith07
@Zenith07 6 ай бұрын
This video unexpectedly blew my mind I was kinda getting confused and kinda loosing it but just when you show a real “Natural Language/Dialogue” was i instantly get it and its something that we tend to overlook and tend to not even notice it at all, its actually crazy that when i am shown a perfect good written dialogue that is quite realistic that i forgot what a real authentic imperfect dialogue is and im surprised not many writers uses this more, it really gives more life to what you’re writing. I’ve watched and listen to lots of imperfect realistic dialogues from other movies, but its kind of insane i never noticed how very different they are to what we usually hear and see in written dialogues, and yet never consider how actual humans talk to each other especially in the heat of the moment.
@herpydepth1204
@herpydepth1204 3 жыл бұрын
God imagine if people spoke like how JoJo characters spoke, that would make life so much more interesting. You walk up to a Mc Donalds and the guy behind the cash register poses at you and says “You want a burger and I know that because I’m very precise you see. I can tell from looking at your body that you’re a meat eater, however, that meat is usually consumed in a unhealthy amount and of unhealthy quality. Do you know who the polish painter Zdzisław Bekiński? In most of his paintings he would draw broken and blackened worlds with large destroyed buildings. I work here because this run down McDonalds reminds me of his work.”
@cakertaker_1013
@cakertaker_1013 3 жыл бұрын
People who talk like that I'd immedialty want to be their friend XD
@tobiramasenju6290
@tobiramasenju6290 3 жыл бұрын
I literally speak like a Jojo character but I have an arcane vocabulary lol
@cakertaker_1013
@cakertaker_1013 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobiramasenju6290 Lmao that's amazing! I can relate, if i'm ever talking about something i know very well or lecturing my siblings I speak in literary vocabulary (like "How Repulsive! How vulgar!") and they'll say i sound too wordy😂
@tobiramasenju6290
@tobiramasenju6290 3 жыл бұрын
@@cakertaker_1013 verbose is the word they're looking for. Next time they say that come back at them with, "you mean verbose" and smirk lol
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimately we are afraid to speak our minds, because saying the unexpected had have wildly unexpected results. Do we want to risk making a friend? an enemy? our minds opened by someone else? No, better to say safe, follow the script, smile and say goodbye like robots, our minds and lives safe and secure.
@Jahu-qs2us
@Jahu-qs2us 3 жыл бұрын
"Why does every movie KZfaqr sound like Nerdwriter. That's not how people talk. Today we will explore ... _dramatic pause_ ... why." _cue intro music_
@junjiito6298
@junjiito6298 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, same. 😂
@curfimo9793
@curfimo9793 3 жыл бұрын
lmao I thought the exact same thing especially the piano thing in the beginning
@bibobeuba
@bibobeuba 3 жыл бұрын
I even wondered whether Nerdwriter and Nerdstalgic are in fact the same person.
@rayaqin
@rayaqin 3 жыл бұрын
@@bibobeuba me too... are they the same?
@thelovepools4102
@thelovepools4102 3 жыл бұрын
This just got ironic
@Noahjowow
@Noahjowow Жыл бұрын
When communicating using proper flow and timing to your words is groundbreaking. It can make a text feel like a whole moment and it can really help a cause when convincing others.
@gabe_s_videos
@gabe_s_videos Жыл бұрын
The script for Clerks is still one of my favorites. I always felt like, even if it wasn't exactly how people talked, it sounded enough like how people THINK they talk to make it sound like there was no script.
@tiredestbean
@tiredestbean 3 жыл бұрын
I'm autistic and a lot of the time I do speak in an oddly 'scripted' way because I tend to plan out what I'm going to say before speaking to somebody... I've been told many times that I sound like I'm performing a monologue or a speech.
@finnanima2413
@finnanima2413 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. It can be tough to get others to realize what we’re really saying without any pre-scripted framework, as The Take’s video essay on Abed Nadir puts it.
@golgothazTerror
@golgothazTerror 3 жыл бұрын
same here, it makes me upset how people say "normal people dont talk like this" applying that neurodivergent arent normal
@gabe_s_videos
@gabe_s_videos 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not autistic myself (I'm told I have a personality disorder though), but I know a lot of people who have Asperger's, so I recognize the speaking style. Personally, I prefer more "scripted"-sounding dialogue in movies and shows, if only because dialogue that sounds like it's trying to be natural always comes off sounding so much LESS so.
@tiredestbean
@tiredestbean 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabe_s_videos I like a mixture of both, sometimes things that are overly scripted and rigid seem 'fake' (*cough* riverdale 🤢 *cough*), but I agree with you that trying too hard to be naturalistic can also do the same.
@Superabound2
@Superabound2 3 жыл бұрын
@@golgothazTerror well what do you think the "divergent" part of "neurodivergent" LITERALLY means? You're diverging FROM THE NORM. "Normal" isn't a value judgement, is a statistical reality.
@waitselljones8068
@waitselljones8068 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about Jules' bible verse is that he actually mentions in the movie that it's something that he has rehearsed and said to people multiple times before he has killed them because he thought it was a bad ass thing to say. So it's actually one of the few times a Tarantino dialogue was a bit realistic because he admits to rehearsing it.
@yourmum69_420
@yourmum69_420 2 жыл бұрын
one of the few times? it's always realistic
@kstar1489
@kstar1489 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s “one of the few times” but you’re right to point that first bit out
@yourmum69_420
@yourmum69_420 2 жыл бұрын
@CORKY yes I've seen them all. No I'm not kidding. Tarantino is renowned for writing natural sounding dialogue. He has even said in an interview that the only reason he believes there must be a god is because he has a god-given talent for writing realistic dialogue. Kinda big headed lol, but his writing is good. Have YOU ever seen them?
@emanuelmartinez7267
@emanuelmartinez7267 2 жыл бұрын
@@yourmum69_420 exactly remember that scene i think reservoir dogs where the characters are discussing the song like a virgin and one of the characters misinterpret it as a song about a woman sleeping with an extremely endowed man which causes her sexual discomfort as if it was her first sexual experience and then argued about tipping the waitress? Thats legit how me and my group of friends talk about various subjects even out in public, outside of say hateful 8 his scripts are how REAL people communicate with one another especially when they're familiar with each others personalities and quirks
@freddiem6805
@freddiem6805 2 жыл бұрын
@@yourmum69_420 bro have you seen how people talk or argue in real life ? It sounds awful. Tarantino's dialogue is not "natural" . It's highly optimised and that's what so great about it
@CrazyzzzDudezzz
@CrazyzzzDudezzz Жыл бұрын
Dialogue is all about conveying the information of the story in a smart way - in a way where the story beats are not spoon feed to you. Where you can figure out what’s going on without every single detail being spelled out for you. That is great dialogue. That is great writing.
@kawaiigirl6281
@kawaiigirl6281 11 ай бұрын
The Sopranos is an example of the show where the dialogue is somewhat exaggerated at times but truly does reflect real and mundane life. As someone from New Jersey, it is extremely refreshing to see such well written dialogue that comes so naturally out of the characters. Truly a masterpiece of a show.
@R3lay0
@R3lay0 3 жыл бұрын
Zucc in the social network is unrealistic, he's way too human.
@soulofash2112
@soulofash2112 3 жыл бұрын
"You can't sneak up on Zuck; I don't even fucking blink / I'm the CEO at Knowing What You Think, Inc." Say what you will about the cats over at ERB, but they got the robotic nature of the Zuck bang on proper quality.
@ccricers
@ccricers 3 жыл бұрын
Hold up... If a robot created the most popular human social network in the world, does that mean the singularity already happened?
@UnclePhil73
@UnclePhil73 3 жыл бұрын
My wife loves “Gilmore Girls” but I couldn’t put my finger on why it bugged me. This helps it make sense. It is played overly scripted. No one ever interrupts anyone, people always have the perfect response whatever the situation. Every scene is like “line, punchline, response” repeat ad infinitum.
@gbyronpowell
@gbyronpowell 3 жыл бұрын
I'll add this, and think about it when she inevitably watches the series for the umpteenth time on Netflix: every main character speaks in Amy Sherman-Palladino's voice.
@Exobably
@Exobably 3 жыл бұрын
Yep - sometimes, because everyone is so witty and snarky, the dialogue almost sounds interchangeable between characters too.
@purplevertig0
@purplevertig0 3 жыл бұрын
@@Exobably dude that's like every sitcom. The big bang theory all have the same comments except in varying levels of intelligence
@eveescastle5866
@eveescastle5866 3 жыл бұрын
@@purplevertig0 to be fair I feel it works better in Gilmore Girls than Big Bang Theory. And it boils down to the story being told. In Big Bang Theory it just feels awkward and a bit jarring, whilst in Gilmore Girls it's fluid and more tasteful. That said it is noticable and at times can break immersion.
@possumhead2812
@possumhead2812 3 жыл бұрын
@@purplevertig0 true but Gilmore girls is more of a drama. It feels very over scripted for a drama imo I cant stand it
@marekb1556
@marekb1556 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god I was thinking about this topic so many times its crazy to see someone just say it out loud and take it further, I sub
@soggycardboardbox
@soggycardboardbox Жыл бұрын
Love this essay! Some really beautiful prose and an interesting subject. The song you chose genuinely touched me, so thanks for introducing me to that!
@calvinjohnson6242
@calvinjohnson6242 Жыл бұрын
What song is it?
@ErinLastNameRedacted
@ErinLastNameRedacted 3 жыл бұрын
I frequently find myself thinking, “Who talks like that?” while watching TV and movies.
@ShiftsThaGizzim
@ShiftsThaGizzim 3 жыл бұрын
The worst was from the show, Gilmore Girls. My ex watched it all the time and I couldn't stand the way they spoke. Completely inhuman speech patterns.
@MoldMonkey93
@MoldMonkey93 3 жыл бұрын
The examples provided in the video, I feel like I have seen people that have spoke in these ways.
@LJofSpadesTV
@LJofSpadesTV 3 жыл бұрын
The interesting thing is that TV & Film could be affecting how people are talking IRL.
@thatchid1144
@thatchid1144 3 жыл бұрын
Lavjot legit tho. I sometimes catch myself unironically using those cringey sayings that are always in tv shows and I’m like what was that lol. Maybe I just need to get out more lol.
@paulelroy6650
@paulelroy6650 3 жыл бұрын
Its almost like it's a piece of art and NOT real life.
@Senpizzle
@Senpizzle 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about Nerdstalgic is something that I've never seen anyone point out before. He's the only content creator that publishes video essays in the aspect ration of the source material. This video is in 21:9, his video on Hey Arnold is in 4:3, and his videos on The Office are in 16:9. Maybe it's because I use an ultrawide monitor, but something about it helps me get so much more immersed. So... thanks for that.
@shieldmaidenarreh4265
@shieldmaidenarreh4265 3 жыл бұрын
Oh i agree, also i feel content when watching his videos like his videos are meditative lol. Do you feel happy watching his videos?
@bimmovieproductions6352
@bimmovieproductions6352 3 жыл бұрын
Except the movies here aren't all 2.35, Marriage story is 1.66 for example. the aspect ratio isn't respected.
@Ryleeman54number2
@Ryleeman54number2 3 жыл бұрын
yea most people cant see 21:9
@lobachevscki
@lobachevscki 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video, don't get me wrong, but this subject was exposed by Nerdwriter before, even referring to the same examples. Which is fine, he is adding on top of that, I'm not saying he is copying or anything. This was a great video.
@BrnoCs2
@BrnoCs2 3 жыл бұрын
i mean... channel name being nerdsomething, rhythm of speech, choice of figures of speech used in the structure of the script, stylistic choice of motion and text graphics, editing style and subject matter aren't by themselves subject to copyright, but damm does this dude made sure everything here is basically a bootleg relative of the Nerdwriter videos....
@luckymeoy
@luckymeoy Жыл бұрын
Wow! I love this video, not only because it explains different types of dialogues in movies, but because it gives a fresh look at what the human condition really is like. We say certain things, in a certain way, often unaware of the reason behind it. Some people, including me, strive for perfection in everything they do, but the difficult truth is: you cannot be perfect, and in letting yourself be imperfect and accepting it, you express your true self! Therefore it's important to note that movies are just movies, and real life doesn't work that way - there will always be conflicts and there will always be communication problems, whether it be lighthearted og serious - and we need to deal with it as best we can.
@chopsuey1625
@chopsuey1625 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and want to say - You have a truly epic perspective on the human condition and what makes us, us. Keep it up bud!
@TheJuggtron
@TheJuggtron 3 жыл бұрын
"Nobody talks like this" No, HEALTHY people don't talk like this.
@abirahsan6712
@abirahsan6712 3 жыл бұрын
@C C this is exactly how I felt, as corny as it sounds. This guy clearly hasn’t met and crackheads
@hezar5166
@hezar5166 3 жыл бұрын
I know right! Lucky guy, probably never had anyone talk to him in bible 😅
@gurpyaresingh6189
@gurpyaresingh6189 3 жыл бұрын
@C C you don't need to be mentally ill or an asshole to create stuff. That's just some nonsense people say.
@babyelijahwood7542
@babyelijahwood7542 3 жыл бұрын
as an unhealthy person who becomes obsessed with media ur exactly right.
@HannahWalshaw
@HannahWalshaw 3 жыл бұрын
that’s so true
@Lukasafer
@Lukasafer 3 жыл бұрын
In my creative writing class my teacher told me: No one talks like how dialogue is written So, the whole dialogue should be realistic thing is false really For dialogue to feel 'realistic' it just needs to make sense in your story and provides purpose If your dialogue serves those two purposes, your dialogue should be fine
@vinaymalut5702
@vinaymalut5702 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a bit like saying “For a drawing to look good, all you need to do is draw lines and color between them”.
@mightyfreshmeat9661
@mightyfreshmeat9661 3 жыл бұрын
Vinay Malut It's more like saying : A drawing will never replicate reality 100%, for a drawing to be feel realistic it does not need to be true to reality, only to convey the characteristic and feeling.
@mightyfreshmeat9661
@mightyfreshmeat9661 3 жыл бұрын
The teacher was stating what a good dialogue "is" and not "how it's done", I find that piece of advice interesting. Thanks Lukasafer
@chrastopheria1235
@chrastopheria1235 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's less making the dialogue actually realistic but "realistic" to the universe you are trying to create, like within the story and presentation as a whole.
@lonestarr1490
@lonestarr1490 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrastopheria1235 The word you were looking for is _consistent_
@SmirkInvestigator
@SmirkInvestigator 7 ай бұрын
Writing isn’t in my career or hobbies but have been thinking about this since I was a kid. This is an awesome video, thanks.
@sbef
@sbef Ай бұрын
Good video. Makes me think that I would love to see a good scifi or horror written in naturalistic style. No cliches or one liners, but real humans experiencing believable awe or terror.
@aguywithalotofopinions412
@aguywithalotofopinions412 2 жыл бұрын
Characters often don’t talk like people and that’s perfectly ok. Movies are a heightened version of real life and dialogue is a heightened version of real speech. If dialogue was like real life many movies would be much less enjoyable.
@justadude2807
@justadude2807 2 жыл бұрын
I share the same opinion. Nothing wrong with "ordinary dialogues" of course, I don't think they're boring. But I also love when the characters have more complex or interesting dialogues even if you have to sacrifice some realism.
@philmann3476
@philmann3476 2 жыл бұрын
True. If you want "real life," it's going on all around you every day. If movies weren't a distraction from the ordinary, there'd be no point for their existence in the first place.
@timekiller882
@timekiller882 2 жыл бұрын
@@philmann3476 lmfao what a joke. Movies don’t exist solely to do anything. Movies aren’t only escapism. Movies can be a magnifying glass on life. It can be literally anything. I think it’s quite condescending and insulting that you think this way.
@user-sg4ov7ng4h
@user-sg4ov7ng4h 2 жыл бұрын
depends, if it's an "arguing scene" i prefer a realistic approach, closer to home
@siddhanttripathi7943
@siddhanttripathi7943 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yess agreed. Stories are meant to be exaggerated in certain places.
@amandafrancis2988
@amandafrancis2988 2 жыл бұрын
I think the amount of hate that that scene in Marriage Story got just goes to show how little people are aware of this aspect of filmmaking-they thought that Scarlett and Adam’s performances were horrible when they were actually extremely accurate. It sounds stupid because it IS, that is just how we talk to each other when emotions take over and we no longer are able to carefully chose words.
@demonictowtoe7983
@demonictowtoe7983 2 жыл бұрын
I got a lot of hate? I thought everyone knew it was good
@amandafrancis2988
@amandafrancis2988 2 жыл бұрын
@@demonictowtoe7983 the argument scene and scarletts dancing scene were torn apart on Twitter for being awkward and humorous because that’s all people saw. I remember being kind of annoyed with having to see it be made fun off constantly and said to be “bad acting” when they are literally Oscar nominated actors 💀
@demonictowtoe7983
@demonictowtoe7983 2 жыл бұрын
@@amandafrancis2988 isnt the writer of the screenplay known for his realistic dialogue?
@amandafrancis2988
@amandafrancis2988 2 жыл бұрын
@@demonictowtoe7983 yes but my point is people didn’t recognize nor appreciate that and ignorantly passed it off as poor writing
@ary2766
@ary2766 2 жыл бұрын
@@amandafrancis2988 lmao you lost me when you mentioned Twitter
@Jefelefe
@Jefelefe Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! i feel like i've always said this to people who loves quentin tarantino, but they said that it's one of his strongest side of his movies, yet i feel like its the opposite. thank god im not the only one who thinks this way :)
@pepperet5216
@pepperet5216 Жыл бұрын
My favorite dialogue style is the one in Edgar wright movies tbh. The man makes every character a walking trope rapid firing stupid statements and still manages to make them feel like people
@juliad857
@juliad857 3 жыл бұрын
I remember I used to be part of this friend group that, if they didn't talk in "perfect dialogue" would come at least close sometimes. It was a group made up of very smart, very witty people, and every line spoken had to be funny, had to build on whatever bit they were doing on the fly. Being around them was entertaining as hell, but man was it stressful trying to keep conversations at dialogue standard.
@anthonynorman7545
@anthonynorman7545 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, it's not just me. I was trying to figure out what he was on about and I guess I'm just in that sort of friend group
@anthonynorman7545
@anthonynorman7545 3 жыл бұрын
@Sushiirull can't be, "no one talk like _that_ 🙄
@sinenomine3315
@sinenomine3315 3 жыл бұрын
@Sushiirull lol unus annus anyone?
@capnsmashem3284
@capnsmashem3284 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my room mates once threw a party and invited several close friends over, and they brought a handful of new people over. About an hour into the night, one of the new people had to come out and say that being in a room with us felt like they had walked into the shooting of a sitcom, because we are like that in our group. The other new people then all nodded and voiced their agreement with that sentiment. We hadn't realized it, but somehow it is as if we had been conditioned to act in an entertaining manner, but for us it is more like a pastime. It's easy to pass a lot of time enjoying yourself when everyone is playing the game of trying to make each other laugh or react in a positive way. It really does make for a great sort of puzzle. Finding new people to talk to that can keep up makes it even more fun, because everyone has their own set of tactics and characteristics to their sort of humor and their own flavor of charm.
@SnootchieBootchies27
@SnootchieBootchies27 3 жыл бұрын
Those type of friend groups are what is often known as "pretentious"
@grateoraclelewot6326
@grateoraclelewot6326 3 жыл бұрын
This is why you can't just say "Dialogue should be realistic" or "Dialogue shouldn't be realistic." There's no universal rule, no quick fix, that you can just follow to automatically succeed and malign everyone else for not following. As you say, it's a stylistic choice, and whatever you choose, what matters is doing it well.
@meme4lyfe277
@meme4lyfe277 Жыл бұрын
thanks for making a thoughtful and individual take on screenwriting dialogue. as a writer, a lot of these video essays cropping up on youtube are pointless drivel with an aim to make the author seem intellectual or smart. your reflections on why odd language works are quite interesting. characterization is everything. something can look like shit on paper and be made great by an actor, and vice versa. directors are the invisible "actor" helping the actual actors find the correct characterizations for the script and his/her vision- i once has a friend tell me "actors don't know what they're doing on set. just who their character is and what the story is." and that's true. i had never considered that as the teenager i was. i thought everyone on a movie set knew what they were aiming for. it's quite the opposite. only the director really knows what is need. imagine the amount of trust you'd need in a director to feel he'd make your performance look good in the directing and editing process.
@raymondmeyers8983
@raymondmeyers8983 5 ай бұрын
There’s a certain poetry to this dialogue. It’s pleasant to the ear. Scripts are like lyrics to a song.
@samstevens2945
@samstevens2945 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed this with my sister. She watches lots of Disney sitcoms, and her dialect has changed, lots more pauses for non existent laugh tracks and much more saying stuff as if we(aka the audience) should already know it because she does. (She’s 8) Edit: the only difference is that Disney sitcoms aren’t exactly poetic.
@NoisqueVoaProduction
@NoisqueVoaProduction 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it is a common feature for the age. Like, I remember a time when I said like "my grandma/grandpa/mother/father" like everyone would understand even though they never met my relatives. It was actually a shock to me realising that everyone has their own perception and they can't know what they don't meet the same way I don't know who are their parents if I never met them. Anyway, I don't think this is a television thing, it is more of an age thing, I didn't watch TV when I was growing up and it was long untill I got the senses of narrative. Movies were only pretty scenes where I lacked a sense of connection between cause and effect and all of it, except if it was really simple. About the pauses... Maybe you are right. But I guess is more because we talk the way we listen. Even if I talk or watch a lot of videos with some accent I start to pick that up, the same way sitcoms have a rythm on which you can pick up. It happens a lot with me and new stcoms or youtube channels, I'm starting to talk and suddenly I'm talking like vsauce or some other channel
@somethingwithbungalows
@somethingwithbungalows 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoisqueVoaProduction many of the youtubers I watch are British. I’m American. So one day I said some British slang on autopilot to my grandma and friend and they were like ?¿ and I couldn’t figure out why until later lol
@captspears3353
@captspears3353 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I have never seen or heard a kid do that ever pause for non existent laugh tracks the other one is normal but not this one
@taysem321
@taysem321 3 жыл бұрын
Your sister watches way too many Disney sitcoms. Although i don't judge her, i always get influenced by what i watch or read.
@toxicallypink
@toxicallypink 3 жыл бұрын
my 6yo brother narrates for his non existent audience the events of his daily life. he's doing imaginary vlogging. it is absolutely because he watches too much youtube. he makes jokes with references he doesn't understand but yet uses them correctly. children are mimicking human behaviour from media more so than real life
@TheAcdcninja
@TheAcdcninja 3 жыл бұрын
So, could you look into how movie dialogue affects natural speech? You say “people don’t talk like this,” but to some extent I think some people do, due to the influence of cinema and TV. You can absolutely notice that some people will try and sound quirky like Juno, or project a confident persona that’s quite clearly based on their favourite movie character. I’d be really interested in if such feedback exists and where it shows up?
@aliciab8890
@aliciab8890 3 жыл бұрын
My boyfriend is a total smart ass. He’s witty, funny, very quick on his feet, and talks in a way that sounds almost too intelligent. Almost like a movie script. I’ve seen the kinds of movies he watched growing up, and I’d totally agree with you on the “due to influence” part. He was practically raised on comedies, and marvel, and movies like pirates of the Caribbean and it definitely shows in his speech. Super interesting
@typorad
@typorad 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid and to a lesser extent today I enjoy imitating accents and generic ideas of characters from films to either add a bit of comedy to a situation or when it feels relevant. When cooking Italian food I might imitate an Italian. I have mocked rich people for not understanding poor/normal lifestyle by taking on a British accent and code switching to fancy vocab and doing the "mmm, yess". When trying to explain something technical and dry in a humorous fashion I overexaggerate a nerdy persona with a lisp and make references to imaginary gear (pocket protectors, calculator, inhaler). Or if I'm going for a humorous jab I might choose a Shakespearean thou/thy 2nd person singular and a bunch of archaic insults.
@TheAcdcninja
@TheAcdcninja 3 жыл бұрын
@Akshay 786 never seen them but I think I saw a short review or analysis and yeah. I’m 25, and might have been 22/23 when I saw that review, so school is still pretty fresh in my mind... From those little snippets, yeah, it seemed like he totally nailed natural speech, both in terms of vocab and structure, but also in intent and emotion. (Like the kids were mocking someone for not being allowed to have Snapchat in one of the scenes I remember and it was VERY true to life)
@BBoy4040
@BBoy4040 3 жыл бұрын
Most of my personality and morals have honestly been influenced by what I've seen on movies and television. It's just who I've always been. Some people have said I have some kind of identity crisis, but I have always looked at it as sometimes media, because it's scripted, knows exactly the right things to say, when to say them, and how you should say them. It could literally turn somebody who isn't socialable at all into someone who can formally express themselves.
@nosajsamaniego4512
@nosajsamaniego4512 3 жыл бұрын
This is ABSOLUTELY true; 😤
@waffledog7292
@waffledog7292 Жыл бұрын
i think its the fact that the extremes are the things that make scenarios that would never happen, and their for making tv so enjoyable
@Miyelsh
@Miyelsh 10 ай бұрын
I had to rewatch this video after watching The Meyerowitz Stories. Absolutely phenomenal naturalistic dialogue.
@claytonreher5493
@claytonreher5493 3 жыл бұрын
I love tarintino because he knows how to make a conversation in a movie just as interesting as a fight scene would be in other movies
@ollikoskiniemi6221
@ollikoskiniemi6221 3 жыл бұрын
Tarantinos dialogues are more interesting than most fight scenes in A-tier action movies
@unhelpfulrevelations7989
@unhelpfulrevelations7989 3 жыл бұрын
Tarantino dialogue is awesome because it's very confrontational, and often strangely insightful in unexpected ways
@jdraven0890
@jdraven0890 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly - someone can argue that it's not entirely realistic, but regardless Tarantino is an excellent dialogue writer. IMHO, in his less stylized films it's closer to reality than not. It also seems like his actors never have difficulty delivering it.
@ollikoskiniemi6221
@ollikoskiniemi6221 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdraven0890 if I'm correct, Tarantino calls his movie universe (yes, they are all connected) a reality more real than reality itself. In his reality realer than ours, his "realistic" movies like Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs happen, and they go to the cinema and watch Kill Bill.
@jdraven0890
@jdraven0890 3 жыл бұрын
@@ollikoskiniemi6221 I love the thought of those characters going to see Kill Bill :) You must be right because in Once Upon a Time... Rick Dalton starred in a WW2 movie that resembled Inglorious Bastards, and there's no way that was done unintentionally.
@johanmanske2545
@johanmanske2545 3 жыл бұрын
If i wanted to hear what people actually sound like, i'd go to the grocery store
@frostyxelectra
@frostyxelectra 3 жыл бұрын
this comment is very covid
@heartache5742
@heartache5742 3 жыл бұрын
this really stabs the question
@stealthsection6442
@stealthsection6442 3 жыл бұрын
@@frostyxelectra I'm using this, in my dialogue. Lel
@ayotwisted
@ayotwisted 3 жыл бұрын
1K Likes With 5 Replies Lol
@TWANDTW
@TWANDTW Жыл бұрын
In a movie, a play or even a book, the author uses dialogue to communicate with the viewer; a vehicle for the characters to express feelings and ideas to the audience. Not for the characters to communicate with each other, because they don't need to. Sometimes the dialogue is very realistic, but other times it is very literary and flowery. As you said, "heightened". In the end, it's nothing but art; not a snapshot of reality, but an artist's vision of reality.
@hiimjustin8826
@hiimjustin8826 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video for starting a conversation that, itself, completes misses the point
@michaelarden8863
@michaelarden8863 3 жыл бұрын
Heightened language for heightened characters goes back to Aristotle's "Poetics", so you're building on a long tradition of understanding that our storytelling doesn't have to be naturalistic, and in fact maybe shouldn't be, to be effective!
@iletyoucallmestevesy
@iletyoucallmestevesy 3 жыл бұрын
Then again it can get positively exhausting when the mailroom clerk is a goddamned Gilbert and Sullivan expert
@TomMS
@TomMS 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought! Aristotle is probably spinning in his grave about Marriage Story and the awful, flawed (and human) communication in it.
@erik_gerhard
@erik_gerhard 3 жыл бұрын
Fully agree. 💯
@dakat5131
@dakat5131 3 жыл бұрын
Especially if there's something you want to highlight. if the whole point is that the characters are just like someone you'd meet irl, then go for it. But if the point is some other idea, and the way the characters talk is getting in the way of that for the sake of "realism", then it's just doing yourself and the audience a disservice. It might seem cluttered, confusing, and erroneously draw attention to something that wasn't intended to be.
@adanvargas2339
@adanvargas2339 3 жыл бұрын
Aristotle’s “Poetics”, trumps this video. Don’t listen to the malarkey contained within this video. Just read the “Poetics”, instead.
@primtones
@primtones 3 жыл бұрын
I've done conversation analysis, and when transcribed you see that most natural dialogues are trainwrecks. People barely speak in complete sentences, and they talk past and over each other constantly. So I'm very fascinated with that unscripted bit in Twin Peaks when a guy mishears something, and Cooper has to repeat his line. That's how people talk, but you never see it on screen.
@milchreis9554
@milchreis9554 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this doesn't apply to other languages. Would be nice to find out
@milchreis9554
@milchreis9554 3 жыл бұрын
@@cedar4539 Interesting! I'm a German speaker. I think it's the sentance structures.
@milchreis9554
@milchreis9554 3 жыл бұрын
@@cedar4539 I know what you mean. I end up speaking Denglish at home with my family who are the same (mix of German and English)
@kazbrekkerr
@kazbrekkerr 3 жыл бұрын
@@cedar4539 exactly! i have this same feeling when i try to express certain feelings or descriptions in my native language and it’s not ‘’available’’, it’s something so crazy to think about it.
@Themboys22
@Themboys22 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re talking about Lynch and Cooper’s scenes, I think those were scripted. But I agree those scenes are realistic and great.
@viewtifuljoe4412
@viewtifuljoe4412 Жыл бұрын
Glad I watched until the end to abate my skepticism from the initial title premise. I have trouble communicating and find dialogue from Tarantino’s movie very fun to watch because I always learn something from pop culture that makes it seem like we are all just in a movie too. I am probably too tired to write this comment, but I appreciate this video. Thank you ^_^
@lucassantos4136
@lucassantos4136 Жыл бұрын
Love that you used the same music that Denis Villeneuve used in The Arrival when talking about language and comunication
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for being the one who named the movie. Been searching the comments, knowing someone had to relieve my frustrating. It was instantly recognisable, but placing it, ahhh.
@kersaherpafuqer784
@kersaherpafuqer784 3 жыл бұрын
Ever watched Kingdom Hearts cutscenes? Now THAT'S how people talk in real life
@PaizuruInsanal
@PaizuruInsanal 3 жыл бұрын
NONSENSE! Everybody knows Life is Strange has the most realistic dialogue.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaizuruInsanal Yeah, Life is Strange was hella real, man!
@julianmederos281
@julianmederos281 3 жыл бұрын
A man of culture, I see
@jacjg3629
@jacjg3629 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the gold stranger
@joost0133
@joost0133 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good place to pick some flowers.
@Venusknees
@Venusknees 3 жыл бұрын
As a teenage girl I really liked the dialogue in Jennifers body because it sounded like how me and my friends talked. The slang is made up but you still know what it means so it feels like the local sayings that only kids at that highschool would know. They sound goofy and dumb (and hilarious) because they're goofy and dumb kids, which makes the horror of what happens to Jennifer, the town, and Needy all the more poignant. Also it allows for a lot of great jokes and catchphrases that are usually what cements a film as an icon of the teen genre, think mean girls. So I actually think the dialogue is really good!
@eastlynburkholder3559
@eastlynburkholder3559 3 жыл бұрын
Teens do speak that way. If other characters not teens do this, it can be distracting from the story, or can be annoying, or can work against the character development. Since we are watching a movie we accept it, if it works within the story. Watch a screwball comedy and the actors are speaking in an artificial and speeded up way but the word is verisimilitude (if I spelled it right), it means feel right or like it could happen that way. And there is not enough time anyways to speak in the slower way real nonfictional characters in real life speak. Movies will have the dragged out parts speeded up and the lag times deleted.
@andreazauli2883
@andreazauli2883 3 жыл бұрын
A really smart explaination, Hanna. Greetings from Italy
@MrParkerman6
@MrParkerman6 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who was never a dumb kid?
@andreazauli2883
@andreazauli2883 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrParkerman6 Lucky you.
@sadia9061
@sadia9061 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrParkerman6 yeah you’re the only one it’s just you
@cloudshifter
@cloudshifter Жыл бұрын
Tarantino does excellent dialogue for two reasons. He captures subtext perfectly. Characters will not talk base on what they know and want to show but instead use analogies or indirect language to hint what they want to say, but it's executed in a way that the audience in on it. Almost every dialogue not only is purposeful to the story but it introduces conflict. Every single dialogue in Tarantinos movies are conflict with stakes starting from the person losing an argument to a person losing their lives or many peoples lives.
@Red3white
@Red3white Жыл бұрын
ooooooohhh nice use of "on the nature of daylight." great song.
@OdysseyTag
@OdysseyTag 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine seeing major films with more organic human speech mannerisms. Yawning, hiccuping, burping, sneezing, coughing and mumbling which isn't used for comedic effect, creative licence or plot. Mispronounciations, stutters, crutch words, and pauses done both a spontaneous and unpredictable way, just as is in life. Indie films incorporate that element of imperfection quite well. The razor-sharp delivery, quippy wit and sarcasm-ladened dialogue we've all come accustomed to in larger films I feel is sometimes so far removed from how we vocalise many of our day-to-day experiences.
@kari_sims
@kari_sims 3 жыл бұрын
that's why Noah Baumbach's movies come to mind, he can really capture how ordinary the way dialogues actually are, specially in The Meyerowitz Stories
@barry3612
@barry3612 3 жыл бұрын
I mean if someone did that, it could also be misconstrued as just bad acting or sloppy directing but could definitely be interesting if it were intentional.
@malachihormel7994
@malachihormel7994 3 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite mannerism would be the "I've stumbled on this sentence twice now, so let's talk about something else." I like it so much that I use it almost daily.
@benjaminjo
@benjaminjo 3 жыл бұрын
Part of the reason we enjoy movies is so we don't have to see much, if any, of the unimportant in-between's. Who wants to see a random burp, fart or sneeze unless it moved the story forward somehow? I can appreciate the odd mistake or two in a song, but don't give me the "practiced" version full of flaws, give me your best, least-flawed product, but not so flawless it's unrelatable.
@SweetflyRachel
@SweetflyRachel 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more films like that. It would be cool to have more films with characters who act closer to real-life human behavior. It's not that every film needs to have only realistic dialogue, but I think it will do a lot to add diversity to the way films are presented and add a sense of naturalness to it. Sometimes realistic dialogue would work better than dramatic dialogue, and sometimes vice versa. It's good to have a balance of both.
@maxinemccormick4146
@maxinemccormick4146 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of this, but Jennifer’s Body I think is written that way because it’s camp. You’re not supposed to feel really like these are real people. The fact that they’re tropes is the whole point and is used to highlight the message, that we fear and make monsters out of female sexuality
@sebastiandelgado2525
@sebastiandelgado2525 3 жыл бұрын
I hate this argument... "the characters are shit because thats what the author wanted" well, ok. No wonder the product was shit. Jennifers body is just another product of cult followings over analizing enterteinment and founding hidden meanings in places that they dont exist. If a message isnt properly convey without someone else telling you about it, that message is flawed. So yeah, jennifers body isnt any hidden masterpiece
@jam5369
@jam5369 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiandelgado2525 well I'm pretty sure there was a message in that movie. I mean the director said it and apparently Megan Fox wanted that role a lot bc she felt like it portrayed how she felt during that time of her being an actor. But ya know, messages can be subjective.
@MossTunic
@MossTunic 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiandelgado2525 it's okay if you didn't get it, it's just a movie that wasn't meant for you.
@tdh6666
@tdh6666 3 жыл бұрын
SilentSirenn this!
@appended1
@appended1 3 жыл бұрын
@Lego Veggie Tales Director's Cut maybe it wasn't supposed to be an argument in that sense? Every statement about art doesn't have to be an argument for or against its merits. Maybe the point was, "it's OK for some people to like something that you don't."
@polinamadafaka
@polinamadafaka Жыл бұрын
So cool video❤I Never thought anyone would Talk About the Lyric Styles in movies🥰
@baishihua
@baishihua Жыл бұрын
Right, naturalistic dialogue/acting is just a style. The primary goal is to entertain and intrigue the audience, if you are trying too hard to be realistic you can lose sight of that goal.
@teejay5432
@teejay5432 3 жыл бұрын
Things that don't happen IRL: - NOOOOOOOOO - Announcing someone's name everytime they walk into your sight - People listening intently and kindly to a diatribe without interrupting, unless you're Stalin or something
@quotesandstuf
@quotesandstuf 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you love or hate the office!!
@jul2548
@jul2548 3 жыл бұрын
I lowkey do all these things
@RMLLcrazy
@RMLLcrazy 3 жыл бұрын
If you spoke with the coherence and gravity of a scripted monologue people would be more reluctant to interrupt you.
@jackbutton169
@jackbutton169 3 жыл бұрын
Would dispute the NOOOOOO
@toekneemart5597
@toekneemart5597 3 жыл бұрын
Now I sort of want to start doing the second one
@btbog1
@btbog1 3 жыл бұрын
He also gives him a bible verse that actually doesn’t exist
@Menaceblue3
@Menaceblue3 3 жыл бұрын
Well yes.... but actually, no....
@btbog1
@btbog1 3 жыл бұрын
Menaceblue3 what
@callum9098
@callum9098 3 жыл бұрын
@@cassi5420The Bible:Special Samuel L Mother Fucking Jackson edition
@Menaceblue3
@Menaceblue3 3 жыл бұрын
@ The actual Ezekiel 25;17 verse is only a small line from the entire Samuel L. Jackson quote from pulp fiction.
@lindajoy668
@lindajoy668 3 жыл бұрын
Bet
@UltraGreen77
@UltraGreen77 Жыл бұрын
Loved the Social Network music in this video.
@selahheaven320
@selahheaven320 Жыл бұрын
This is a great analysis. As Americans we are studied based on Hollywood movies, that’s how they learn English and our “accents” so if you notice that someone you know is always talking like a character, chances are they’re a stasi spy, gathering information on you, to use against you in the near future.
@tempesttossed6029
@tempesttossed6029 3 жыл бұрын
But people do talk like this. It's just rare. So the problem is when every character speaks in quips and quirks.
@godspeedhero3671
@godspeedhero3671 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The style is actually really natural. It's the 200 IQ quips and jokes that seem unrealistic.
@nenufairy1929
@nenufairy1929 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, thank you.
@finnanima2413
@finnanima2413 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s snowballing too. Media like this is so popular and widespread now, at some point, it can start to feel natural to talk like that.
@tedros6917
@tedros6917 3 жыл бұрын
i don't necessarily mind this. why should every movie's goal be to be as realistic as possible? sometimes you want to watch something over the top or grandiose or melodramatic -- its not always supposed to be real life
@Spaztar
@Spaztar 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I can't stand Aaron Sorkin's writing. Every single character talks the exact same way, and everything is punctuated with impossibly quick and witty quips. As a result, they never end up sounding like individual characters, they all just speak like what Aaron Sorkin wishes he sounded like in real life.
@atlasliddell
@atlasliddell 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a little confused how Diablo Cody’s writing style, while consistent, is seen as a gimmick in Jennifer’s Body, while Aaron’s writing in The Social Network and other films is seen as “it just works” because of its consistency. That contradicts itself. Why does Diablo’s dialogue style have to serve the story but Aaron’s can just exist?
@skitskit333
@skitskit333 3 жыл бұрын
a lot of people hate jennifers body. why, that is unknown but many people dislike it
@rubinasmith9741
@rubinasmith9741 3 жыл бұрын
yeah I feel like this juxtaposition was suss as. I don't wanna accuse this guy of anything but the whole "teen girls making up dorky slang language to show how tight their friendship is doesn't work but when it comes from a guy's mouth it makes sense" totalllyy rubbed me the wrong way
@margotdv6714
@margotdv6714 3 жыл бұрын
Ah I had the exact same thought!! Both dialogue styles were heightened on purpose yet somehow for Jennifer's Body it didn't work and it did for other Sorkin movies?
@profeseurchemical
@profeseurchemical 3 жыл бұрын
imo its a gimmick when sorkin does it as well, just one more to the taste of this videos author.
@kanyestan2400
@kanyestan2400 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to video essays. If you hide your opinion behind enough fanciful language, you can convince people that you know what you're talking about.
@trakeC
@trakeC Жыл бұрын
This topic was interesting but I am watching it twice because it was so relaxing and calming to watch
@Tser
@Tser Жыл бұрын
I think the first time dialogue stood out to younger me as unrealistic, but as an important stylistic choice, was in 90s television. I remember being conscious of the way dialogue in X-Files and Twin Peaks was part of the world- and character-building. From there I began to appreciate it in films, Quentin Tarantino's being some that stand out to me.
@James-wi3fg
@James-wi3fg 3 жыл бұрын
idk i think Jennifers body's dialogue really works,, i think the point of the movie was for things to be over the top??
@kat-ju8jb
@kat-ju8jb 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, its called camp.
@chioma916
@chioma916 3 жыл бұрын
men hate that movie. alas.
@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous
@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous 3 жыл бұрын
@@chioma916 I enjoyed it.
@tonyward5280
@tonyward5280 3 жыл бұрын
People get the point of the films often doesn't make the film any better. Simply having a message doesn't say anything about the quality of a film.
@KanonHara
@KanonHara 3 жыл бұрын
You missed the point of the video. He never said unnatural dialogue was bad, he was just highlighting the difference.
@Treznorpunch1
@Treznorpunch1 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a small suggestion. When you show scenes of a movie for the first time (or every time, if that's easier), would you mind putting the title of the movie and possibly the year in a corner for reference? I say this, because when you speak about a certain movie, you will reference another movie from the same creator or studio and I think it would help some people, including myself, know which movies to go look for and know the references.
@teardrop6392
@teardrop6392 3 жыл бұрын
Ya I’m not a big movie person, but it would be helpful since I didn’t see it in the description... Especially if it seems interesting.
@teardrop6392
@teardrop6392 3 жыл бұрын
@@amy-rose7090 which show are you talking about?
@donutboi467
@donutboi467 3 жыл бұрын
@@amy-rose7090 if you mean the scenes with adam driver and scarlett johansson that was from "Marriage Story"
@DAMIENDMILLS
@DAMIENDMILLS 3 жыл бұрын
Marriage Story has become a meme. I never seen it, but that one scene went viral. Even I knew what it was.
@wolfeevi
@wolfeevi Жыл бұрын
a show i think has really realistic dialogue is skam norwegian. even though it’s not in english and i don’t understand the language, i can tell the genuineness of it. the way the characters talk over each other and there’s a lot of silence and awkwardness really make me love the show a lot more.
@muskanvhora4817
@muskanvhora4817 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, this is very insightful.
@humma0
@humma0 3 жыл бұрын
I think Jennifer's Body was really ages ahead, and got dumped only due to poor marketing & over-sexualization of Megan Fox
@ilse1126
@ilse1126 3 жыл бұрын
no, the movie honestly just didn't make sense
@keepinmahprivacy9754
@keepinmahprivacy9754 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize it was possible to over-sexualize Megan Fox. What else are you going to do with her?
@eank3429
@eank3429 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the movie as a kid watched it recently it's fantastic some of it is a little off but still good
@JohnnyMando92
@JohnnyMando92 3 жыл бұрын
@@keepinmahprivacy9754 have her act
@keepinmahprivacy9754
@keepinmahprivacy9754 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyMando92 Ha, that's a good one!
@JJan953
@JJan953 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly though. Pulp fiction absolutely nails realistic conversation flow, absolutely my favorite script ever written. The french big mac is an amazing example of something stupid we talk about in real life, and then bring it back as a lot of the things we say in a day are because we heard or saw it earlier. Pulp fictions script is heavily stylized but still has a lot of realism to it.
@WeAreTheDraiken
@WeAreTheDraiken 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I always thought quarantino nailed realistic dialogue , cause yes speech can be messy , but when you sit down to talk to people you know its very fluid, which quarantino nails all the time IMO.
@xym07
@xym07 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t it Quarter Pounder with Cheese? It’s been a while since the last watch so I’m not sure.
@chuckleberryfinn1992
@chuckleberryfinn1992 3 жыл бұрын
@@xym07 that's an ethiopian with a yeast infection. butt for real. Holland (&most of non-US world) is metric, thus the Royale with Cheese. Lè Big Mac
@godspeedhero3671
@godspeedhero3671 3 жыл бұрын
Remembering this film recently helped me with my frustrating experience navigating the German McDonald's menu. Haha
@HieronymousLex
@HieronymousLex 3 жыл бұрын
What the fuck are you guys saying? He showed that as an example of UNrealistic dialogue. Tarantino movies are the first ones that come to my mind when I think larger than life, exaggerated dialogue. Literally nobody talks like the characters in his movies, delivering zinger after zinger. I think yall missed the point
@dimmie5240
@dimmie5240 9 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis mate
@isangmalabongproduction516
@isangmalabongproduction516 2 жыл бұрын
the social network bg music st the start there really accents the points nicely
@rddsknk89
@rddsknk89 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I was a kid I thought it was weird how perfectly movie characters typically talk. Most movies don’t have their characters going “oh uh... well...” and stumbling over each other’s words, which is something that happens every day.
@punklover99
@punklover99 3 жыл бұрын
Nice pfp
@everythingisawesome2903
@everythingisawesome2903 3 жыл бұрын
"oh..uh...well" is more realistic. I see that especially in romantic comedy movies.
@toothless3835
@toothless3835 3 жыл бұрын
I just stop talking instead of uming. Like I'm sure I look like a crazy person. But I'll be looking up in the air like I'm searching for the word above my head or something. Even just say words when I suddenly remember them. Was asked yesterday about the name of one of the meats on the cheese board I out together. Couldn't think of it. About 10 minutes later I announced it in the middle of a new conversation, just interupting everyone because I'm a dork.
@valehuber2232
@valehuber2232 2 жыл бұрын
if they did the movie will be long, and hard to watch
@FriBinCringe
@FriBinCringe 3 жыл бұрын
I got this notification right as My English teacher was lecturing my class about choosing good dialogue. Now that I think about it, Nerdstalgic has taught me more about great storytelling than any English teacher I've ever had.
@fatastrophe9854
@fatastrophe9854 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just put into a more entertaining format, teachers dont get that luxury as they have to cover far more than just pop culture
@FriBinCringe
@FriBinCringe 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatastrophe9854 I understand that. I really think teachers get the short end of the stick when it comes to these types of things. I'm just putting an observation out there.
@PaizuruInsanal
@PaizuruInsanal 3 жыл бұрын
You're spoiled for even having that. Portuguese teachers in Brazil are soulless essay tutorial machines. I used to read a lot, wanted to be a writer but then essay mania started running wild.
@fatastrophe9854
@fatastrophe9854 3 жыл бұрын
RSB-Miasma calling others spoiled wont help anything, if you want to do something dont let anything stop you
@popeyespizza330
@popeyespizza330 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaizuruInsanal It boils my blood how education systems steal the curiosity and will to learn and be great from students by forcing them to do useless mindless work in the most unmotivating ways. All in the name of making more money from test scores and which schools are the best and such.
@catriona_drummond
@catriona_drummond Ай бұрын
Amazing you got through all of this without referencing theatre.
when the audience doesn't get the joke
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