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This is the BEST Teenage Climber in Cycling HISTORY

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Lanterne Rouge

Lanterne Rouge

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Lanterne Rouge presents an analysis of Juan Ayuso's climbing performances in his first full year of WorldTour cycling.
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@LanterneRougeCycling
@LanterneRougeCycling Жыл бұрын
All the watts and comparisons between Ayuso and Evenepoel / Pogacar are here | lanternerouge.com.au/2022/10/25/juan-ayuso-greatest-teenage-climber-ever/
@rikkshow
@rikkshow Жыл бұрын
This was a great idea, to do like a rider profile with examples and all. You should definitely do more of this! Good job.
@cheechorino3710
@cheechorino3710 Жыл бұрын
Him and pogacar one two attacking in the tour could be scary
@elonif4125
@elonif4125 Жыл бұрын
Ayuso reminds me a lot of Pogacar, not only with the power spike at the end but also in riding style and demeanor. Could become one of the greats.
@korekthebill
@korekthebill Жыл бұрын
Hey Lanterne, is possible for you to make a video about best performances of Davide Rebellin as a tribute for him?
@chrisko6439
@chrisko6439 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice, but it is probably not possible/way too big a hassle to get the rights for old footage, as LR stated at some point in the past.
@LanterneRougeCycling
@LanterneRougeCycling Жыл бұрын
Good idea, but as Chris said, rights could be difficult
@korekthebill
@korekthebill Жыл бұрын
​@@LanterneRougeCycling I was afraid, this is the case.
@HoldenDoesBikeStuff
@HoldenDoesBikeStuff Жыл бұрын
Great idea though!
@aeciosegundo7779
@aeciosegundo7779 Жыл бұрын
A star! Keep shining your light 💡 ❤️ 🚴🏽
@quentonmax5776
@quentonmax5776 Жыл бұрын
Hey LR, would you consider making a series of short videos to help newcomers better understand the sport of cycling? Things like key tactics, races, terminology, rider types, etc? I think it could pretty helpful for newer viewers
@HoldenDoesBikeStuff
@HoldenDoesBikeStuff Жыл бұрын
Seconded
@ChuckD59
@ChuckD59 Жыл бұрын
Things like the various competitions within one race; climbing points and sprinting points, how responsibilities within a team are meted out, what the hell's with all the vehicles? Neutral support? Feed zones and their rules. Someone (kaph.. USACycling...) should promote the sport more in the USA by making it easier for the normal person to grasp (cough...USACycling). -Thoughts of a retired Cat 2 roadie
@desryan1603
@desryan1603 Жыл бұрын
This is a great idea, but I vote that a team of fans chop up the existing clips and podcasts into a series of mash ups, and maybe @peaktorque can do a backing soundtrack.
@sldulin
@sldulin Жыл бұрын
One aspect of cycling that remains somewhat mysterious to me is the whole practice of teams early on in the race policing who gets into breaks... that seems to usually go on well before televised coverage starts and there must be a lot of strategy involved.
@danielduvernay3207
@danielduvernay3207 Жыл бұрын
Could even be framed as an old vs new tactics video
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 Жыл бұрын
Personally I'll wait a few years before deciding. It could be that Ayuso is an early bloomer in terms of climbing, both physiologically as well as in opportunity/support. Evenepoel for example never focused on climbing untill he was 20yo, the year he crashed. After that this was the first year he properly could again focus on climbing. By the end of 2018 UAE also wasn't a GC team, more stage hunting/sprint team, only 14th in team ranking. So Pogacar likely also get less good support than Ayuso got now, he is what put UAE on the GC map and I wouldn't be surprised that the team got a cash injection because of him. Though obviously Pogacar had quite some climbing experience by 2019. I'm not sure, but Uijtdebroeks also didn't seem to have a lot of climbing experience before this year. Which might be quite normal considering there aren't any mountains around Belgium to train on. We'll see in the next few years what he'll bring vs others
@kimwalton2873
@kimwalton2873 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Unlike most cycling videos I always seem to learn some from your postings!
@yuriboykkaaa1337
@yuriboykkaaa1337 Жыл бұрын
this power reminds me of the young Jan Ullrich
@luzzyrogue
@luzzyrogue Жыл бұрын
Since I watched the podcast from Dr. Inigo san Millan, I fully understand with no doubts of dopage or any enhancing drugs how UAE cyclists improve. I am an amateur cyclist with 4 days/week (3hours) of training and I recently did 5.1W/kg (I weight 80.8kg with 6' 01"). The watts Ayuso is putting are enormous, UAE need to replace their cycling tactical manager to win all races there are for the peloton. (Bad point about the Inigo's program is you need a recovery period of at least a minute in zone 2 to jump back to zone 4, this is where Tadej Poggi was dropped by Wout van Aert and lost to Jonas Vingegaard on stage 18 of Tour de France). Ayuso too showed that on the Sierra Nevada where after a minute, he came back strong again and even did a top mountain sprint.
@ThisIsANameBruh
@ThisIsANameBruh Жыл бұрын
What's that about the z2 recovery period? What kinds of efforts are we talking about? Long climbs where you go a bit above threshold, then recover for a minute and then back to threshold?
@luzzyrogue
@luzzyrogue Жыл бұрын
@@ThisIsANameBruh For Poggi, he goes up z5 and limit z4, then he drops back at z2 for a fully recovery. Give him 30 nor more than 50 and he drops you.
@adamarchie
@adamarchie Жыл бұрын
Great video. A tantalising prospect for next year's grand tours - which could be even better than this year's from a spectator's point of view.
@ezeekwheel
@ezeekwheel Жыл бұрын
completely agree. I think with a good team lead-in to the climb you could stay with the front a lot longer
@spiderelc
@spiderelc Жыл бұрын
man's had to do that shit on a cinelli monstertruck, now that's impressive
@AlexPeka
@AlexPeka Жыл бұрын
Aaaaaahhhhhhh...Feels like it's been ages since one of these :)
@charlesriley23
@charlesriley23 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Plesant things to contemplate while looking towards warmer days needed...
@ethangodridge6833
@ethangodridge6833 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Would like to see one on Leo Hayter's Baby Giro performance this year.
@58668687
@58668687 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis, please more! 👍
@fabianwylie8707
@fabianwylie8707 Жыл бұрын
As always like your technical analysis 😊. Keep em coming 👏👏❄️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♀️
@paddydunne774
@paddydunne774 Жыл бұрын
Boom LR let’s go
@LanterneRougeCycling
@LanterneRougeCycling Жыл бұрын
Vamos
@orangeorphan
@orangeorphan Жыл бұрын
Ok so the question becomes: where should he go? He won’t get leadership/full team support at UAE will he? Maybe he has to prove he can do it on his own like Pogacar before the team really commits to helping him.
@foldupaudi7645
@foldupaudi7645 Жыл бұрын
I am excited about this guy
@sean7879Outdoor
@sean7879Outdoor Жыл бұрын
I just worry he isn't a team player, not saying he should be if he is the strongest, but being a d!ck doesn't get your teammates to pull gaps back on cobbled/crosswind tour de france stages during the first week.
@andrasszabo1570
@andrasszabo1570 Жыл бұрын
Him sitting in the bunch in Catalunya when Higuita and Carapaz pulled away was pretty bad. He cared about his 4th place more than Almeida's lead. Especially with a flat finish where he would've finished in the peloton anyway, that was a pretty selfish move.
@benjaminlawlor6327
@benjaminlawlor6327 Жыл бұрын
That cinelli is so sick
@brianmessemer2973
@brianmessemer2973 Жыл бұрын
Hey Lanterne, I'm interested in languages and linguistics, and in the video you mentioned "Catalunya (Catalonia) near me" and I was reminded that you live in that region as of recent years. Are you learning the Catalan language and Castilian Spanish concurrently? I can't recall where exactly you are based - is it Andorra in the north, Barcelona in the southern region of Catalonia, or another location? Main question: in your locale (and in Catalonia as you currently experience it), do you observe Catalan being used exclusively among native Catalan speakers in all modalities of language, or do you see situational code-mixing or code-switching into Castilian Spanish depending on the topic, or on the interlocutor? Thanks for the great content, as always.
@LanterneRougeCycling
@LanterneRougeCycling Жыл бұрын
I am based in Andorra and am not in Catalunya itself that much. Catalan is used primarily in Catalunya outside of Barcelona, particularly in the places on the other side of the Andorran border like La Seu d'Urgell. In Andorra its the national language and all signs or shop advertising has to be in Catalan I think. Catalan speakers will always speak Catalan when speaking with each other, they will not mix in Spanish from what I have seen - the languages are not mutually intelligble. Exceptions would be at the local bakery in Andorra where for example they know I can understand strongly contextual Catalan and so will just speak to me in Catalan even though I can only speak Spanish at the moment
@brianmessemer2973
@brianmessemer2973 Жыл бұрын
@@LanterneRougeCycling Very cool and interesting. Thank you for taking the time to reply! And buenas suerte with your Spanish language learning and life abroad in Andorra 🇦🇩
@michaelsteele5495
@michaelsteele5495 Жыл бұрын
I am always stunned when I see riders pulling for Remco. Why would they? In the end they always get dropped
@dieterloos7382
@dieterloos7382 Жыл бұрын
and a smart guy with the narrow handlebars
@michaelmastell6778
@michaelmastell6778 Жыл бұрын
He's going to podium the TDF with Pogacar on his team? Top ten would be impressive as a top lieutenant but podium seems unlikely with depth of field. Just being realistic.
@elchram
@elchram Жыл бұрын
Hey Lantern, How about Jan Christen, also in the UAE Team?
@schaffelaer1902
@schaffelaer1902 Жыл бұрын
Sporting that Cinelli, oh yessss....
@jcoul1sc
@jcoul1sc Жыл бұрын
Raw talent, needs tempered, most greats didnt do great things until older. D. Sportif needs to keep their matches and allow them to grow, its the HEAD and the legs remember.
@henrikf0507
@henrikf0507 Жыл бұрын
The chosen one😉
@yuriboykkaaa1337
@yuriboykkaaa1337 Жыл бұрын
was Jan Ullrich ;)
@matthewk3233
@matthewk3233 Жыл бұрын
The next USA GT winner since the great Chris Horner. He should do Giro next year, he beats Remco at it.
@christopherdolan7330
@christopherdolan7330 Жыл бұрын
If he's good in the cold & wet, then why not target the Giro? I forget if this year's course profile would suit a pure climber or if this is the year for a time trialist to win...
@elonif4125
@elonif4125 Жыл бұрын
There are i think 70 kilometers of time trials but also huge climbs where you can create large gaps. Still I think the Tour with shorter more explosive climbs and fewer time trialing should suit him better.
@christopherdolan7330
@christopherdolan7330 Жыл бұрын
@@elonif4125 thanks for the correction!
@kelvinbelogot4852
@kelvinbelogot4852 Жыл бұрын
McNulty is still the best climber in UAE behind Pog. Ive been a fan of him since he did that 6.6w/kg for 25 mins lol and destroyed hundreds of riders.
@luzzyrogue
@luzzyrogue Жыл бұрын
That was an echelon calculation. Dr. Inigo San Millan stated no one of his knowledge is doing 6.3W/kg for 30 minutes. And the power data of the peleton is strictly confidential(only he and the UAE riders know of.)
@sinisteraura5885
@sinisteraura5885 Жыл бұрын
Hell no , Mcnulty is nowhere near Juan Ayuso
@luzzyrogue
@luzzyrogue Жыл бұрын
@@sinisteraura5885 Ayuso is not what people think he is. He has alot to develop
@markhill9275
@markhill9275 Жыл бұрын
Teenage yes, but under 21, i believe that goes to Le Cannibale, i may be wrong, but i think he was only 20 when he destroyed everyone on the Bloc Haus in his first Giro. As i said, i'm not 100% on his age.
@glywnniswells9480
@glywnniswells9480 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how upset the older generation of riders are that they were kept on the back burner until 27 for grand tours etc. Seems the younger the better now. Many top pros just wasted their best years. Sad now that we know. Yiuth wins cycling races.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 Жыл бұрын
You also need to put it in perspective, the last few years/decade there was a lot of advancement in scouting for talent, guiding them, better data, ... Also these young riders now coming up tend to be big talents that maybe in the past were more 'missed'. There are still plenty of riders now that don't achieve their best results/better form untill they are 24-26 yo.
@glywnniswells9480
@glywnniswells9480 Жыл бұрын
@@MDP1702 Where? all the top riders are now younger every single last one.
@luzzyrogue
@luzzyrogue Жыл бұрын
The technology improvement is the key. Ceramic bearing forexample, which allows you to maintain the same speed on a flat for two minutes (Conti 5000s tyres with Mavic Carbon x wheels). This makes the need of Watts less, hence muscles at age of 19 can manage a 200km high pace ride. In 2000's where everything was steel, you need to put in atleast 300 Watts on a flat to maintain the peloton speed.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 Жыл бұрын
@@glywnniswells9480 Only 5 riders in the top 25 UCI rankings are younger than 25 if I am correct: Pogacar (24), Evenepoel (nearly 23), De Lie (20), Girmay (22) and Ayuso (20 at place 25). And De Lie is mostly from point farming in smaller races.
@elonif4125
@elonif4125 Жыл бұрын
@@luzzyrogue Could play some role but 300 is way to large. If the peloton travels 45 km/h, you need around 150-200 watts on average if you are in a good position. I really doubt that just the wheels would double that number.
@JohnDough-yr2zt
@JohnDough-yr2zt Жыл бұрын
Lamperti is still a teenager. He’s not technically a climber, but he has a climbing oriented background. Around here, if you can’t climb, you aint
@user-ic6uk2nx7l
@user-ic6uk2nx7l Жыл бұрын
Korean bike men 파이팅하세요
@TheCyclesport
@TheCyclesport Жыл бұрын
LeMond was the best teenage climber ever. No teenager has matched his accomplishments going uphills.
@dubsounds
@dubsounds Жыл бұрын
Most these guys appear to be in the 6 ft height category. Yet the bikes are all small frame.
@OnlineFox29
@OnlineFox29 Ай бұрын
Me watching the Video on the day when Ayuso got dropped after 2km 😞
@GuntherL1
@GuntherL1 Жыл бұрын
I'd be a fan if he weren't riding for Gianetti.
@chrisko6439
@chrisko6439 Жыл бұрын
Would Brailsford be a better choice? :D
@GuntherL1
@GuntherL1 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisko6439 Anyone would be better. He almost killed himself as a rider and he was the sports director of Ricco, Piepoli and Cobo. It is inconceivable that this guy is still part of pro cycling.
@tomermahlis12
@tomermahlis12 Жыл бұрын
I believe the new biometric passport for riders by the UCI is flaude if you can juice up before when your an amateur and cheat the system every year the riders get younger and younger
@jonasvingegoat5538
@jonasvingegoat5538 Жыл бұрын
First
@leplessis8179
@leplessis8179 Жыл бұрын
You have a very short memory - or are just too young to remember. Comparing today's cyclists and the machines that they ride with the heavy steel that we used to lug uphill is pointless - unless you have structured, detaled, data. Road surfaces, tyre composition, diet and physiology - all have changed considerably since we rode in the 1950s.
@Ghost12561
@Ghost12561 Жыл бұрын
Evenepoel is really bad in climbing, why compare?
@easy6380
@easy6380 Жыл бұрын
Really bad in climbing but won the Vuelta?💀
@Ghost12561
@Ghost12561 Жыл бұрын
@@easy6380 yeah but because he is competing with pros who has bad climbing as well lol. Try Pogi and Jonas, this dude could hardly keep up in the few kilometers.
@paulsolon6229
@paulsolon6229 Жыл бұрын
No. LeMond was best as a kid.
@alexmurdock897
@alexmurdock897 Жыл бұрын
The best #teenage climber in history? Still isn’t beat Remco on multiple occasion in the vuelta. Bam.
@andrasszabo1570
@andrasszabo1570 Жыл бұрын
Remco was 22 years and 8 months old at the Vuelta. Bam.
@lahal9582
@lahal9582 Жыл бұрын
But remco didn’t have experience in gt just like ayuso and still beat him by 5 minutes
@andrasszabo1570
@andrasszabo1570 Жыл бұрын
@@lahal9582 But Remco was still more developed mentally and physically by almost 3 years. He wasn't as good as Ayuso when he was 19 years and 11 months old, caspisce?
@pixel8596
@pixel8596 Жыл бұрын
​@@andrasszabo1570 Remco won the junior Belgian, European & World championship road race AND time trial at the age of 18. That's 3 times a double champion. At the age of 19 he won the Tour of Belgium and the European time trial championship. He started with the elite when he was 19 and not with the U23 like Ayuso. At the age of 20 he won the Tour of Poland, Algrave, San Juan & Burgos. At age 21 he was injured and at age 22 he's a world champion grand tour winner (also Belgian TT champion, bronze world TT champion, Tour of Norway & Algrave, etc which he arguably could've done at the age of 21 if he hadn't crashed in Lombardia). No young rider even comes close to doing what he's done.
@andrasszabo1570
@andrasszabo1570 Жыл бұрын
@@pixel8596 You can't watch the video and think for a minute before instictively fanboying here? What do junior races, time trials, flat and hilly races and things he's won after he's turned 20 have to do with teenager climbing performances? As a teenager Remco was outclimbed by the likes of Ulissi in UAE, Großschartner, Conti and Kudus in Turkey and famously had his head caved in from the level of WT climbing at the Tour of Romandie, wasn't he? Remco's not podiumed a GT and done the climbing performances as a teenager as Ayuso has done, has he? That's what's relevant here, not whether he became a world champion on a course where there was a bunch sprint behind him at the age 22. By the way, forget ever, how about another young rider just a year older than Evenepoel? Winning Avenir at 19, winning Algarve & California and podiuming the Vuelta at 20, winning Valencia, UAE and the Tour de France at age 21, and winning UAE, Tirreno, Liége-Bastogne-Liége, Slovenia, the Tour de France again and Lombardia at age 22, how's that sound? Doesn't even comes close to what Evenepoel's done? Interesting. I'll take the 2 Tours de France alone over what Evenepoel has won so far, let alone the rest.
@Fecontiflex97
@Fecontiflex97 Жыл бұрын
Lie
@haydenhall646
@haydenhall646 Жыл бұрын
I know how hard road cycling training is to get good and he's 19 bearly out of the womb and he's shitting on everyone. 🤷 One words DRUGS can do special things
@easy6380
@easy6380 Жыл бұрын
The jealousy is crazy💀 I feel bad for you, hope you’ll achieve sth in your life one day, too.
@lahal9582
@lahal9582 Жыл бұрын
Remco destroy him in the vuelta
@cloudxdweller9189
@cloudxdweller9189 Жыл бұрын
can you be more stupid ? hell no , Remco never destroyed Juan Ayuso ,Ayuso had covid 19 and flu and never got destroyed ,he's way younger , we'll see this season how things go hater
@swimdeep189
@swimdeep189 Жыл бұрын
is he juiced up.Not that I care anymore. But really ?
@PKperformanceEU
@PKperformanceEU Жыл бұрын
Juan ayuso, yes
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