This is the Best ThinkPad Ever Built. It's Awful.

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aChair Leg

aChair Leg

Күн бұрын

Every day, I stare out my windows and watch the rain drip along the glass thinking to myself, what would it be like to use the best ThinkPad with the best keyboard? Well today I saw the light and got a ThinkPad T61 to see what the hype is about and see if there's any reason at all to get one of these.
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@WeirdSkeleton
@WeirdSkeleton 17 күн бұрын
dont you dare ping the discord server again without linking the vid
@emdotrod
@emdotrod 17 күн бұрын
If anything, the Thinkpad keyboard is basically trickled down to other Lenovo's product. Obviously not the same keyboard and no Trackpoint, but Lenovo laptop's keyboard is still one of the best I've type for a laptop.
@Big-Chungus21
@Big-Chungus21 17 күн бұрын
Definitely. The keyboards on the Yoga, Legion and LOQ for example are all really nice. The first is about £400 off at Currys right now in the UK, about £1,700 for a really nice, premium and thin laptop with a 4060 and 13th gen i9, 32gb RAM and really nice screen.
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat 17 күн бұрын
I think the funniest thing ever is the fact that I love ThinkPad keyboards and love typing on them, but I'm somehow slightly faster on the modern Apple Magic keyboards which I hate typing on, it feels like I'm barely in control and hitting tic tacs instead of keys, but I still type faster on it. It baffles me.
@emdotrod
@emdotrod 17 күн бұрын
@@Big-Chungus21 I love using my Legion keyboard lol it has great tactile and response
@suionyou
@suionyou 16 күн бұрын
Fun note about replacing that hard disk drive with that ssd. Hitachi bought IBM's hard drive business in 2003, basically merging it's own disk drive unit with IBM's. That combined unit was sold to and merged with Western Digital in 2012. Due to a series of anti-trust considerations in China, Western Digital couldn't fully combine with the spun off disk drive unit until 2015~2017. In the middle of that in 2016, Western Digital also bought flash manufacturer SanDisk-- which is how a product like the WD Blue solid state SATA drive became possible.
@TrenchReynolds
@TrenchReynolds 17 күн бұрын
Hook it up to the internet and let chaos reign.
@aChairLeg
@aChairLeg 17 күн бұрын
Nooooooo I really wanted to tho
@kyuthefox
@kyuthefox 11 күн бұрын
@@aChairLeg honestly It's only in danger if you connect it without a firewall (your router) in the middle. so hooking this up over ethernet to your router isn't bad because the router blocks all traffic to a device that didn't request for it. there was a video from someordenarygamers where he ran an xp vm hooked up behind the router and there was nothing wrong with the vm.
@lukastram4990
@lukastram4990 9 күн бұрын
Such a Dualcore is my Docker/Portainer Homelab now 😊 running on the Armbian x64 Cli Version. After baking the old GPU in the oven i got graphics back to life, new thermalpaste and the Laptop which was lying around for 10years is now perfect in work and idle for my iot projects at home.
@IgoZoom1
@IgoZoom1 10 күн бұрын
BTW, I think the mystery slot next to the DVD drive is an ExpressCard slot. I never used it, but I know one use was for cellular modems. These systems really struggled to run Windows Vista. Then again, I struggled to use Vista! What a freaking nightmare!
@filenotfound__3871
@filenotfound__3871 14 күн бұрын
I still use a few laptops from that era: Compaq 610 - C2D T5870, 4GB DDR2, 320GB WD Blue, Windows 7 HP 6720s - C2D T7200, 4GB DDR2, 160GB Hitachi, Windows 7 Toshiba A300 - C2D T5800, 3GB DDR2, 320GB WD Blue, Windows 7 Great little things, Still do a deacent job for web browsing, playing old games, movies and such. I had to fix the Toshiba... twice...and the speakers on it are foam rotted...and a few other things... The HPs tho never had any issues
@gingertrash64
@gingertrash64 17 күн бұрын
I got an old thinkpad probably around the same age when I was younger for free from a local community center that had Ubuntu 12 or 14 on it and I played so much Game Dev Tycoon and emulated snes games on it, it was heaven
@ItsAlce
@ItsAlce 17 күн бұрын
ThinkPad without Linux = Blasphemy
@SuperOldrocker
@SuperOldrocker 12 күн бұрын
It’s the Nvidia GPU. I sold one in excellent condition a couple of months ago, and Ubuntu is not good for Nvidia. Even Pops! Sucks on it. I use Linux Mint on my T500 6g ram and 120g hd, and it’s great.
@mistrotech8894
@mistrotech8894 5 күн бұрын
​@@SuperOldrockerJust wondering, but how does it suck? Could you elaborate? I've never used Linux on Nvidia before...
@rumenjanro
@rumenjanro 4 күн бұрын
Kinda funny to think that you believe that, I've been using Windows on a ThinkPad T60 and I've not experienced any problems.
@finnbianga4189
@finnbianga4189 15 күн бұрын
I had a t400 a few years ago. It also came with 3gb of ram but it was ddr3. The cpu was a core 2 duo p8600 paired with a mobility radeon hd 3450. I ended up selling it to someone who needed it more than i did but i still kinda regret selling it. It was such a nice old school machine
@nickthaskater
@nickthaskater 17 күн бұрын
0:58 you mean the FireWire port?
@samue5370
@samue5370 13 күн бұрын
I was about to say it looks like one mini FireWire port to me as well!
@flippypwnage2789
@flippypwnage2789 Күн бұрын
He didn't get the dial up either
@TECHNIKVERBOT
@TECHNIKVERBOT 13 күн бұрын
6:05 if anything, flash the Middleton BIOS on it to unlock SATA 2 speeds and remove the temp sensor warning when installing Penryn based CPUs (like the T9300) on older Merom T61 (T7xxx) boards
@lilxsalama
@lilxsalama 17 күн бұрын
Oml this is the earliest I’ve ever been to a chair vid
@aChairLeg
@aChairLeg 17 күн бұрын
This is what you get for staying up late :)
@NickLetsom
@NickLetsom 17 күн бұрын
"I really don't know what this would be used for" damn that made me feel old! That's the dial up modem, that's how we got on the Internet!
@andystech101
@andystech101 16 күн бұрын
Great video as always! I’m going to have to get me on of these ThinkPads 😂
@aChairLeg
@aChairLeg 16 күн бұрын
Thank you! Get yourself a T480 to start out with, it's a really great little work laptop
@Technerd207
@Technerd207 17 күн бұрын
Please make a video on the Thinkpad P1 gen 2 with OLED screen. Show the people what 550$ get you on the second hand market compared to your t14 and the other Thinkpad you teased. I know it's a bit expensive, but it's worth it. Who knows, it may become your new daily driver.
@d0ddod
@d0ddod 12 күн бұрын
I bought one of these in 2017 for my birthday and it was still extremely usable for stuff like minecraft 1.8 and roblox at the time
@revarine.
@revarine. 5 күн бұрын
Finally... My favorite Thinkpad thematic channel
@knight808
@knight808 17 күн бұрын
Chair when there is no leg. (i tottaly watched the whole video, amazing work!)
@xplayerplaysyt6461
@xplayerplaysyt6461 17 күн бұрын
Keep up the amazing work! Also try older (Before 2010) Toshibas, they are reliable just like the thinkpads
@mistrotech8894
@mistrotech8894 5 күн бұрын
I've also had great experiences with HP Elitebooks and Dell Latitudes (pre 2014)...even a better reliability track record than newer Lenovo ThinkPads.
@yanngoarant1302
@yanngoarant1302 13 күн бұрын
Have a T440P and it’s awesome ! I7, 32GB Ram, LED mat screen perfect !
@stuartgreen5631
@stuartgreen5631 3 күн бұрын
Still have T60p, w500. Very similar. They were outstanding.
@troubledpickle5986
@troubledpickle5986 17 күн бұрын
my bday is in an hour and i love my early gift from my fav youtuber
@Soul_Cinema
@Soul_Cinema 10 күн бұрын
damn i was really looking forward to seeing you run sh2 on there, i'm assuming it didn't work though lol
@breadworkshop
@breadworkshop 17 күн бұрын
i love this channel even though i am a certified linux dork and cannot help but go NotLikeThis every time you mention how much better you prefer windows over linux on thinkpads lol. this was one of the first laptops i owned as a young adult and i have fond memories of running kde3 on gentoo on it and it being an absolute powerhouse. the keyboard was a highlight for me too. everyone was so mad when lenovo switched to the chicklet style keys and imo it was justified
@VenomTNT64
@VenomTNT64 17 күн бұрын
while I don't have a T61 anymore (all of them either had the Nvidia GPU or the one Intel GMA model I did have had a bad board), I do have an X201 and I love it. Lovely little laptop, and it still feels pretty usable with Linux Mint even 14 years after release.
@mattblaize
@mattblaize 14 күн бұрын
Overall, which one do you think is better between these both
@Donald-mo2oe
@Donald-mo2oe 17 күн бұрын
I think I had one of those before I knew what a Thinkpad was
@seanbrewer5337
@seanbrewer5337 23 сағат бұрын
That thing would run the hell out of bunsenlabs or something else suitably lightweight
@mayorbotak2437
@mayorbotak2437 16 күн бұрын
I had the t400, it looks extremely similar
@paololololol
@paololololol 17 күн бұрын
I loved my x60s but it was old and kept getting hot. But damn was it a workhorse.
@grumps5940
@grumps5940 16 күн бұрын
Thats the only issue I have with my Thinkpad X60 runs too hot even after a thermal repaste.
@mememe37
@mememe37 17 күн бұрын
I didn't know the thinkpad saga was still going on!
@aChairLeg
@aChairLeg 17 күн бұрын
I didn't either until I ended up with this
@mememe37
@mememe37 17 күн бұрын
@@aChairLeg Apparently h264ify makes KZfaq less miserable on those old CPUs, so you might try that out in the future. Cool video, as usual!
@flipkibblez
@flipkibblez 17 күн бұрын
I force fed my t61 a T9900 then pinmodded and fsb modded it. Used it till earlier this yeah when it got water damaged from our roof leaking.
@trrjecto4459
@trrjecto4459 17 күн бұрын
With a custom bios you get faster Sata and a quad-core CPU, there is also ibm_ecw where you can under volt the CPU.
@Veg-Power
@Veg-Power 17 күн бұрын
Even an X9000 OCed dual-core works quite nice with AntiX Linux, I paired it with 8gigs rams, sata2 ssd-speed, fx570m graphics and 15" IPS 1200p screen from T60p. Trackpoint is damn accurate and the trackpoint buttons, especially with new-like NMB keyboard.
@wmameer
@wmameer 9 күн бұрын
I have the same laptop. Use it with Windows x lite Windows 10 (from fb conan)
@cairnex4473
@cairnex4473 17 күн бұрын
Man Zoomers getting all nostalgic about things that happened "back in their childhood" always makes me laugh, it feels like two weeks ago to me.
@Geardos1
@Geardos1 17 күн бұрын
RJ11 = dial up modem...
@aChairLeg
@aChairLeg 17 күн бұрын
but for why???
@InnoVintage
@InnoVintage 17 күн бұрын
​@@aChairLegIn case an end user doesn't have broadband
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat 17 күн бұрын
​@@aChairLegbefore wifi you needed wires to connect to the internet, and that meant the landline telephone jack... Which is what an RJ11 is. It's for plugging a landline into... Honestly I feel weird and old having to explain this to you.
@randomgamingin144p
@randomgamingin144p 17 күн бұрын
@@aChairLeg because dial up internet exists as people didnt have broadband internet access
@Biaanca5036
@Biaanca5036 17 күн бұрын
Probably the lack of practical uses or accessories. Even the parallel port is more interesting. RJ11 is just - eh.
@user-pf9dr2bt6z
@user-pf9dr2bt6z 17 күн бұрын
Install the Middleton's BIOS on it sata1 to sata2 and 8 GB ram
@crubsalt
@crubsalt 17 күн бұрын
love these videos, would be cool to see you test linux mint on some thinkpads in the future!
@tankermottind
@tankermottind 18 сағат бұрын
I have a T520 and it's much, much more usable than this machine, it is perfectly fine using Linux for KZfaq, web browsing, and retro games, especially since I have it upgraded to 12 gigs of RAM. I am definitely one of those people who swears by the old 7-row keyboard--for me it was love at first touch and I hope one day to be able to afford the anniversary model (a T480 with an old style keyboard), which still sells for outrageous prices.
@celiekgra1553
@celiekgra1553 10 күн бұрын
With core2duo p8300 AND 5gb of ram i used this laptop for notes AND even a small amount of java proggraming
@IndigoVoltage
@IndigoVoltage 17 күн бұрын
I will buy it thanks
@EinsNameLezz
@EinsNameLezz 17 күн бұрын
Nice video 👍
@kittenzrulz2314
@kittenzrulz2314 11 күн бұрын
Ubuntu isn't good for this, you need Debian with XFCE
@GreatMossWater
@GreatMossWater 17 күн бұрын
If you think that Cpu is slow try a T5750!!! Feels like it's gonna karoshi someday.
@VenomTNT64
@VenomTNT64 17 күн бұрын
nah, gotta try a Celeron 540 if you want to suffer with one of the slowest CPU's for Socket P.
@todorsamardzhiev144
@todorsamardzhiev144 12 күн бұрын
As soon as you put Win XP it will fly like a rocket. And you'll realize the problem is modern software, not 2006 CPUs.
@jakeparkinson8929
@jakeparkinson8929 17 күн бұрын
Two words, skill issue. Gnome is pretty heavy on old igpu's and so is kde. You would have had a better experience if you had installed freebsd with xfce.
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat 17 күн бұрын
Or any of the huge number of actual Linux distros that have Xfce desktops. Hell Archcraft running Openbox might have been a good experience...
@NickLetsom
@NickLetsom 17 күн бұрын
I have a T400 (literally the next generation after this one), and I just installed Mint XFCE last weekend, it's a good fit
@robsquared2
@robsquared2 17 күн бұрын
it's really that old? Well that's depressing.
@Karti200
@Karti200 17 күн бұрын
You searchin for another thinkpad xd? I am getting rid of my L14 based on i5-10210U xd
@golimonkey
@golimonkey 17 күн бұрын
You really shouldnt use anything past win 7 with this thing. If it cant use DX12, HDR and other new features, whats the point?
@HypeXesk
@HypeXesk 5 күн бұрын
Id say use linux mint instead of ubuntu, just easier to deal with
@YagizIsHere
@YagizIsHere 13 күн бұрын
upgrade ram and replace the hdd with ssd and install windows 10 x64 again i have a laptop that has really close specs to your thinkpad and its running really smooth rn
@ekim4926
@ekim4926 17 күн бұрын
I am willing to recycle this horrible computer for free u know
@robertbauer3793
@robertbauer3793 15 күн бұрын
*lying around
@nirui.o
@nirui.o 10 күн бұрын
Terraria? That thing may take 6GB of RAM to run, and you only have half of what's needed 😅
@robertbrand5139
@robertbrand5139 17 күн бұрын
Love your old ThinkPad videos ❤ Made me chuckle with the HDD swap 😂
@hackr11007
@hackr11007 17 күн бұрын
U wot m8
@Sithhy
@Sithhy 17 күн бұрын
It probably would work well with Linux if you didn't go for the Win 10 of Linuxes lol
@HIDLad001
@HIDLad001 17 күн бұрын
For how expensive these are it really isn’t worth it. Just get a T430 and mod it with a classic keyboard.
@Wisankara
@Wisankara 16 күн бұрын
Nooo, you are doing things wrongly. I have an X61, same year and same T7500 with 4gb ram (8gb is possible) in 12 inch format, 1.4 kg weight. Its perfectly usable, plays 720/1080p yt videos no problem (with a bit of a tweak), opens up multiple tabs in Floorp, boots up in 35 secs even with that Sata I speed limit of 150mb/s. The difference being, I installed Linux Mint Xfce on it, something like Gnome is bloated too much, and Windows 10 with no tweaks as well. I managed to load Windows 11 lite on T61 I sold, it wasn't that bad. The only issue I have with X61 is no media decoding, meaning if I want to watch something on an external screen, it has lines when a lot of movement happens, which I will solve by buying 20$ broadcom media decoding mpcie card. I just bought 2 X61s untested on ebay to get L7500 which has 17W TDP, so I can transfer its motherboard into X61, and get much better thermals.
@robertbrand5139
@robertbrand5139 17 күн бұрын
BTW - Classic X Series ALL THE WAY !
@NickLetsom
@NickLetsom 17 күн бұрын
I was just messing around with Linux Mint (Which is Ubuntu based) on a T400 (basically the same machine) and it was unusably slow like this in Linux, and I found it was keeping the CPU at only 800mhz. The only fix i could find was to go into BIOS and set the CPU SpeedStep settings to Max Performance. It was much more usable then, even KZfaq videos were playable.
@bestcreate1417
@bestcreate1417 12 күн бұрын
It was updating, thats why it is slow
@t.a.p4554
@t.a.p4554 10 күн бұрын
i have t430 i7-3540m nvs5400m 16gb... i play Valorant 900p 100+ fps average and Gta V 900p 50+ fps average... i hope i can run Gta 6 on this beast... 😂😂
@cairnex4473
@cairnex4473 17 күн бұрын
Yeah that's really more a Windows XP or a Windows 7 machine. I think Windows 10 is pushing it a little too far.
@muhammad-bin-american
@muhammad-bin-american 17 күн бұрын
I have the T61 4:3 model (Better IMO) with the advanced dock. The dock has Nvidia GT 730 card and it handles YT at 720p with no issue. Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC 2019. 8 GB RAM. Its my main PC. I have more powerful PCs but this is my favorite. Gets the job done even in 2024. My other favorite Thinkpad is the T440s with i5 4210U. Love how efficient it is. Can run for without the fan coming on.
@shirakamishiro
@shirakamishiro 17 күн бұрын
Got pinged without the link
@kutay7243
@kutay7243 17 күн бұрын
you are pushing really hard
@Rivenworld
@Rivenworld 17 күн бұрын
Got a T420 with Win 10/Linux and a T60 running XP with all of my old games, still runs a treat. There is still life in the old laptops even after all these years.
@leonidas14775
@leonidas14775 17 күн бұрын
73 processes and 100% percent CPU usage? try disabling windows defender and windows update. They are resource hogs.
@fnmayo
@fnmayo 13 күн бұрын
WHY UBUNTU?
@aChairLeg
@aChairLeg 13 күн бұрын
The system works
@fnmayo
@fnmayo 13 күн бұрын
@@aChairLeg damn i did not thought that u will respond but i just think that even something like lxqt will just work 3x times or better or fancier ArCh
@user-ut4so1vy3b
@user-ut4so1vy3b 15 күн бұрын
the thinkpad is not that great it's just famous peace of ******
@mabuchild
@mabuchild 4 күн бұрын
没必要啊! T61 是隔了一代人的设计,
@oscarcharliezulu
@oscarcharliezulu 17 күн бұрын
Wrong. T43 was the best. /S
@VenomTNT64
@VenomTNT64 17 күн бұрын
nah mate, the last good thinkpad was the 600X !!!
@midnightmythos
@midnightmythos 17 күн бұрын
First !!
@CarlElsner1998
@CarlElsner1998 17 күн бұрын
First like ❤
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