you need to rewatch... Vegeta was referencing Goku refining his SSJ power before he hijacked the ship to find him..

And on top of that Vegeta didnt think Trunks was a SSJ because he didn't think any more Sayians were alive. He was shocked because Goku was *stronger than he was on Namek..

Even in Kai and the manga he acknowledged him. The moment Goku set foot on Namek Vegeta knew he truly had the potential to become a super saiyan

Gohan literally only knew what a super saiyan was because of Vegeta and he denied trunks because he was going through denial for one and two no one knew Trunks was from the future as far as Vegeta knew the only living saiyans are him and Goku and all saiyans have black hair

That way in fusion vegito and gogeta are so strong because vegeta keep training 😂

Exactly. It’s even more insane to know that if Vegeta ever applied even just a quarter of that effort into learning from others like GOKU did then Goku wouldn't even be able to compete.

@@kaeledmond3610 Don't give vegeta ideas he needs to stay fodder

@@Kosta991 Hater 😂

@@kaeledmond3610 Here's a full list of all the W's vegeta took in direct fights: Cui Dodoria Zarbon Pui pui And now for Ls: Goku (saiyan saga) Krillin Gohan Yajirobi Zarbon (before the zenkai boost) Recoome Frieza Broly Metal Cooler Android 17 Android 18 Imperfect cell Perfect cell Bojack Spopavich Dabura Babidi Majin Buu Janemba Kid Buu Buuhan Hirudegarn Beerus Whis Hit Golden Frieza Zamasu Goku Nigga Toppo Jiren Moro Granolah Black Frieza

​@@Kosta991Vegeta never lost to Goku once.

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“When we reach our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.”― Avatar Aang

​@@nguyenvohoanggia7873 Korra was a horrible show.

Good point

The Saiyans had Healing Chambers, so Sensu Beans and the Chambers are practically the same

@shadowopsairman1583 not even close. One is instant and one takes a long time as shown in the show

@@shadowopsairman1583 Vegeta had senzus and healing chamber during his space and android training?

@@FirstLast-gk6lg actually they are because they both accelerate healing

Yup. It worked for him in this camp, but it comes back to bite him later on. Like the second time he hopped in the time chamber he got really bad diminishing returns on his gains

An interesting thing is that Whis told him the same thing They're both like Chill bruh

Vegeta goes through intense training, but he never allows his body to rest and adapt so that he can reap the complete benefits of his training. Vegeta trains harder than Goku, but Goku trains smarter.

he don't know about the turtle hermit way , train hard, study well, and eat n sleep plenty

Bulma definitely helped him relax a little bit

I mean in all seriousness if he had put it down to a quarter of that level he might have been ok

@@Skarnex1337g could’ve worked his way up for sure

I’m laughing at 3 am at this comment 😂😂

If Yamcha had slowly built his way up he'd have kept going and gotten to incredible levels

He also has insane weighted gi on

It’s a shame

And base Broly required SSG Vegeta to defeat him.

​@@nickcarroll8565isn't it hikaru or hikari mode for broly

"Back tingles, bruh." (Man, that is such a lame way to invalidate becoming a Super Saiyan.)

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Pui Pui got nothing on them.

It was the first time in his life that he had people who cared about him and provided him a good quality of life with food according to his training.... I think that help him a lot

Trunks too, but made sense because was still young

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In reality he didn't want to anymore, he didn't care

Pushups, situps and plenty of milk.

Thanks bro!

​@@SensibleSaiyanI just wanted to say there is a misconception about what vegeta's training was about. If you watch tge Japanese version of dbz He wasn't training to be a super saiyan he was training to surpass a super saiyan in his base. At the time for some reason he still didn't think he could be a super saiyan. He was frustrated because he reached his li.its in his base and got extremely passed because he plateued and couldn't get any stronger. That let go crap the English version said is bullsht! Just FYI

@@sonnywoods6846 You're 💯% right. The English dubs are garbage. They change up the words giving us FALSE info. I ONLY watch Anime in Japanese with subs, the BEST way to watch them💯

Yeah what belped flesh it iut was when he talked about nothing mattered but blasting that rock to savw his lifw. He wasnt thinking about competition qt that moment.

Senzus Beam spam to get zenkai spam basically.

Let’s also not forget what whis said about recovery and reducing stress. Your body doesn’t get stronger during the training per se, it gets stronger during recovery and rest

@@bobjones5370this is such bullshit and empirically incorrect. Your body goes through neurological adaptation DURING your training and your body is at its peak physical strength around 60-70% of your workout. ATP regenerates a lot faster than most know because most people don’t train. Your body needs to recover from the stress of your training ofc, but it’s either absurd or plain ignorance to assume your strength grows exclusively from rest. If this was the case, most lazy people would be far stronger and more fit. The people who train the hardest and smartest are also the fittest. I’m so over listening to people’s bullshit as an excuse to be lazy. Training is everything. Rest is just something you are forced to do between sessions due to immune, endocrine, and nervous system stress.

Vegeta gets stronger from rage, pride, stupid intense training. Vegeta himself literally says he believed love and having a family would grant him more power and it did not. In fact, he grew weaker because of it. He tries several different methods to grow strong because he doesn’t know what to do. He was a slave for most of his life and he spent years just trying to get his shit together. Vegeta’s singular and greatest strength will ALWAYS be insane training, as demonstrated time and time again in DBZ and Super. This comment is rather insightful but it just doesn’t apply to Vegeta, DBZ or any of the Z fighters for that matter.

@@michaelgresham1980 you need to gain better critical thinking skills and reading comprehension my friend. I never said that rest and recovery are the only things necessary for strength and muscle growth. I am saying that while training is necessary it is not the only factor that is important in gaining strength. Rest and recovery are also equally critical. If you constantly batter your body without active recovery such as walking or just simply sleeping your body WILL NOT be able to repair itself and come back bigger and stronger. It is common sense that you let your body get the proper rest it needs in order to become stronger after training and it is ignorant and overly reductive in thinking to say that training is everything while ignoring recovery, rest, and nutrition. Also rewatch Super. Specifically, when Whis gives a lecture to Vegeta about how he is always so tense, has a ship in his shoulders, and needs enough rest and recovery so that he will finally be able to properly surpass Goku. I suggest you do better

I need to try that myself.

This was motivation in high school sports.💪🦾🦵🦿

Goku achieving Super sayian is trauma for him. Along with mystery boy trunks achieving Super sayian.

The classic “Kakarot you dog, you actually did it!” I love that scene. It’s kind of tricky though, because when Vegeta hears later on earth that Goku became a super Saiyan, he’s shocked. So it’s never really been head canon for me

Vegeta seeing Goku on Namek as a Super Saiyan is mixed filler meaning it's filler, but then he's teleported to earth which happens in the manga🤓

@@SensibleSaiyan It's called mixed filler, combining filler and cannon parts where you can't separate the two in the anime. HATE they did this throughout the DBZ anime👎🏽

The heart hairline is the source of his strength

@@SensibleSaiyan Vegeta has the best hairline

McDonald's hairline

Dam 😂his face is a heart

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He went back to being the strongest after his Spirit and Time room training.....until Goku and Gohan finished their's💯

only cuz goku was heart virus nerfed.....

But Goku trains smater than Vegeta does.

thats for anything in life some people can dedicate themselves more, some people can learn a little bit faster and efficient, some people have better tools to learn comparing yourself to someone like that can be nice sometimes but I find that it often leads to self esteem issues or destructive tendencies the only fair opponent is yourself. you aim to be better than yourself. you do your 100% but you aim for 110% that way you're also always aware of your improvements. your yesterday is always worse than your tomorrow

Thanks man! That means a lot

Thanks man, will do 💪🏻

@@SensibleSaiyan i hope you saw my top comment

I always preferred the Androids half of the Androids/Cell arc over the Cell half. It had some of the best settings, world building and story as far as Dragonball is concerned in the series. But once Cell shows up the momentum and plot starts taking a nosedive.

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Glad you liked it man

Thank you!

No he didn’t actually go into space in the manga, but the anime did a much better job at showing the training than the manga. Manga it was only a few panels.

@@SensibleSaiyan Okay. Then in my head canon he didn't go to space, it was all in his mind, and the English dub thought we'd be too dumb to get that

@SonofTiamat well the Japanese dub still showed his training in space, no? I can’t speak on it much since I’ve only watched the English dub and read the manga.

He was in space

@@SosaDecodes Only in the anime which means that part is mixed filler/mixed cannon🤓

Only in the anime and not the manga🤓

I will in the future. Glad you liked 💪🏻

I did bruh. I went off script 😂

You should give him credit. He real strongest earth fighter.

@@VITAS874credit for what? He’s one of the weakest of his peers, and he never did anything helpful or even significant in Z. I’ll give him his credit for DB though.

What an amazing comment. You got this 💪🏻

@@SensibleSaiyan thanks, big fan of your Naruto video too, Hope to see more in the future

@@HABACHI617 Absolutely. Much more DBZ and Naruto to come

Manga is different from the anime

Shitty, I mean Super is an alternate timeline anyways so you don't have to count it💯

Thanks bro 😎

Thanks man I appreciate it

Thanks for the feedback. My latest vid is the same style but I tried upping the production a bit. New mic, higher quality picture files, and another transition. Gonna keep experimenting and adding.

Yes sir