Goku's BEST Training Camp EVER

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Sensible Saiyan

Sensible Saiyan

Күн бұрын

Breakdown of Goku's best training camps throughout DBZ. Which one is the best and why?
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
0:26 Goku's various training camps
3:31 The verdict
3:54 What I mean by "best"
4:17 Why the time chamber?
8:24 Outro
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@carterminter7814
@carterminter7814 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Been watching DBZ since I was 7 in 1998. Your videos are the best I've seen. Really fun. Very logical. Captures the fighting spirit of the show.
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 10 ай бұрын
Thank YOU my friend! I’m glad you enjoy the content.
@ScoobaSteveNC
@ScoobaSteveNC 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I was 5 when ocean dub was on toonami
@MrJoseph132000
@MrJoseph132000 25 күн бұрын
​@@SensibleSaiyanMake a video on why super saiyan 2 has more potential than super saiyan 3
@hiscik1362
@hiscik1362 10 ай бұрын
Roshi taught Goku the importance of resting. When you see this show as a whole, you can notice how much goku has learned from all his masters and how he is able to apply all this knowledge in every battle or training
@VolticWind
@VolticWind Жыл бұрын
tmw you realize that Goku was Gohan’s most effective teacher. Dude was able to get him from mid-Frieza saga level to basically the strongest person in the verse at the time.
@shlimey04
@shlimey04 9 ай бұрын
From zero to hero
@AdobadoFantastico
@AdobadoFantastico 3 ай бұрын
Imagine if he trained Gohan for more than a year, lol.
@NostalgicOccultist
@NostalgicOccultist Ай бұрын
@@AdobadoFantastico At best he could have prepared him more for the mentality change of SSJ2, with their available training methods and forms their base form and SSJ forms raw power was nearly as high as it could get, more forms and new training was needed to really get past that plateau many many years after the fact
@anse6517
@anse6517 27 күн бұрын
Ya goku is gohan dad he knows gohan better than everyone
@eiric6958
@eiric6958 Жыл бұрын
Great reasoning for your choice, but I would choose the namek arc training. Too iconic.
@ReckWayne
@ReckWayne Жыл бұрын
Iconic and broken. Hacking tf outta tht zenkai boost
@eiric6958
@eiric6958 Жыл бұрын
@@ReckWayne But it did involve going near death, which is painful, the power gain was worth it and broken.
@IIIISai
@IIIISai 10 ай бұрын
@@eiric6958 yes
@SamDizzo-gf7zu
@SamDizzo-gf7zu 9 ай бұрын
This comment aged like fine wine 🍷
@IIIISai
@IIIISai 9 ай бұрын
@@SamDizzo-gf7zu ye
@ertailara
@ertailara 2 ай бұрын
2:20 “Goku didn’t learn any new skill” my dude learned how to Drive
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 2 ай бұрын
Bro did NOT get his license 😂
@funeralgiggle3771
@funeralgiggle3771 13 күн бұрын
@@SensibleSaiyan😂😂😂
@bragnir
@bragnir Жыл бұрын
The difference between how Vegeta and Goku trained in the Time Chamber is something Toriyama and Toey seem to have forgotten nowadays (Goku asking wtf you want to meditate for came out of left field): Vegeta has always had his gains in *power*, not necessarily technique: he pushes himself to the breaking point, then gets the zenkai from it. That's what he knows. Goku, on the other hand, was a master Martial Artist at this point. He trained himself and Gohan in an upscaled version of the exact same training Roshi had given him and Krillin all those years back.
@matthewbreytenbach4483
@matthewbreytenbach4483 11 ай бұрын
Super getting Goku's training philosophy so.. _wrong_ was the first, and second largest, blunder they made with his character.
@bragnir
@bragnir 11 ай бұрын
@@matthewbreytenbach4483 Yeah... For example, why the hell's Goku using a tractor? It wouldn't be surprising that the family had it, for when Chichi's gotta keep the household together, but... Goku? Farming entire fields by hand in seconds was a childhood training session to him.
@matthewbreytenbach4483
@matthewbreytenbach4483 11 ай бұрын
@@bragnir Excellent question! It would have been so cool to see Goku donning an appropriately weighted turtle shell and going back to basics while farming. Maybe initiate Goten into the Turtle School's philosophy while he's at it.
@bragnir
@bragnir 11 ай бұрын
@@matthewbreytenbach4483 THIS, I would have loved to see. Let him be the accomplished martial artist he is. Let him continue bonding with his family the way he bonded with Gohan from the time chamber training montage to the pre-cell games calm.
@jasonhearn5818
@jasonhearn5818 4 ай бұрын
Wasn't just roshi, Korin, Kami and especially King kai
@sdotscheckmeout
@sdotscheckmeout 10 ай бұрын
The driving instructor gave goku the heart virus
@keithsmith5435
@keithsmith5435 Жыл бұрын
At this point, most of us DBZ fans have seen thousands of videos reviewing the series. Thanks for approaching this video with an angle I actually have never heard debated before. That's rare. Keep up the good work.
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it, man
@angrywolfjr7164
@angrywolfjr7164 Жыл бұрын
Def agree, the contrast between how vegeta treated trunks and how goku treated gohan, and the results both got, definitely shows
@obione51499
@obione51499 2 ай бұрын
Never thought of Goku’s preparation for opponents as training camps until now. That’s exactly what they are, and that makes Dragon Ball even cooler to me.
@MeatSnax
@MeatSnax Жыл бұрын
Shame you left out the first half of the series, Kami & PoPo is one of the coolest level ups. Besides growing up, he had an actual spiritual awakening that you associate with martial-arts-as-meditation, and it pays off in the fight with Piccolo again and again. There's only so much mileage you can get out of "Goku got stronger and faster and learned new moves off screen" without some kind of greater narrative arc.
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan Жыл бұрын
You’re right, Dragonball had some amazing training arcs too. I also always loved his very first training with Roshi and Krillin. Something about waking up early, the countryside and the manual labor Roshi had them doing always gave me a peaceful feel.
@vergilmontiero2558
@vergilmontiero2558 Жыл бұрын
@@SensibleSaiyan also the most realistic, no matter how cool I think gravity training would be.
@jashardwallington
@jashardwallington 3 ай бұрын
I was just about to say this
@victordesouzasperduto
@victordesouzasperduto Жыл бұрын
Goku before training: 220 million Power After training: 4 billion power
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 Жыл бұрын
Dude your vibe chill af and your content is pretty fresh. Imma drop a like and a sub
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it my man
@johnyu4436
@johnyu4436 Жыл бұрын
Goku training with King Kai for 1 year got him about 10× stronger + he learned kaioken and spirit bomb. Goku training at 100× gravity for 6 days got him somewhere between 3×-7× stronger depending on how much of a zenkai boost he got from the Vegeta fight. Goku training on Yardrat for 1/2 year barely had any results but he learned instant transmission. Goku training with Gohan and Piccolo for 3 years barely had any results and he didn't learn any new techniques. Goku training with Gohan for 1 year in the ROSAT got him around a 8×-10× boost and mastering the SSJ form. Goku training in otherworld for 7 years got him about a 2× boost and he unlocked SSJ2 and SSJ3 as well as learning the fusion dance. In terms of time invested for power gain, the trip to Namek was the biggest gains goku ever recieved through training.
@gabagool_and_psychiatry4856
@gabagool_and_psychiatry4856 Жыл бұрын
it was all zenkai boost and zenzu beans. he might as well been juicing.
@shadowdragonlord2295
@shadowdragonlord2295 2 ай бұрын
​@DerEinwolfe You mean 90000. 180000 is him using the Kaioken.
@shadowdragonlord2295
@shadowdragonlord2295 2 ай бұрын
@DerEinwolfe I was referring to his fight with Ginyu.
@Vapor817
@Vapor817 Ай бұрын
king kai was less than half a year actually since goku spent half a year getting to the planet then the saiyans ended up being like a month early
@gongduh
@gongduh 4 ай бұрын
I liked the hairstyles him and gohan had in the hyperbolic time chamber
@rGGdom
@rGGdom 10 ай бұрын
If we include og DB, I really love the kamisama trainning up to the 3erd tournament. Goku learned higher aspects of combat like ki based presence detection, flying, etc., wich for the time made him look like a true martial arts master even surprising master roshi and beating previous martial arts champions like King Chappa
@LCTesla
@LCTesla 10 ай бұрын
7:32 it's more like: there are times when a "grinding" form of training is in order and other times when it takes a more philosophical, meditative approach... goku always had a great sense for this whereas Vegeta erred too much on the grinding side.
@Impostorzim
@Impostorzim 2 ай бұрын
I love the Cell Saga so much. The relationship between Goku and Gohan up until the final climax is so perfect. I get emotional just thinking about it.
@SuperGGLOL
@SuperGGLOL 18 күн бұрын
It’s almost a perfect arc. A perfect story. Truly the goat
@shakurabdulkadir632
@shakurabdulkadir632 5 ай бұрын
To be fair i would say that Gohan was mostly the One who benefited most out of it, since Goku had to spend the first few Months to turn Gohan into a Super Saiyan and make him learn to control it. After that he was able to make some progress himself.
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 5 ай бұрын
True that, but sometimes being a good teacher helps you perfect your craft even more. Plus he got a killer training partner out of the whole process
@yOOjisinthefrig
@yOOjisinthefrig Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your breakdown of the time chamber training. You did a much better job developing the characters in that point than the show did for me.
@Speed001
@Speed001 10 ай бұрын
Keep it up, great blast from the past.
@bonnie_158
@bonnie_158 Жыл бұрын
Vegeta to me always seemed to have a train harder not smarter mindset in the cell saga even after going back in, now I could be wrong, it seemed like he still could use grade 4
@VGInterviews
@VGInterviews Жыл бұрын
Agreed, Vegeta always had the mindset of "Kakarot trained at 100G then I'll train at 200G" but never realized that Goku chose 100 not becuase he couldn't do 200 but because he had realized 100 would yield the best results in general, it is not just a competition of reaching the highest number you can handle
@IIIISai
@IIIISai 10 ай бұрын
@@VGInterviews I do agree although Goku didn't do 200 g cuz the pod didn't have the option, logically Goku can do 200 g with kaioken same namek strategy
@whydoyoukeeptalking
@whydoyoukeeptalking 10 ай бұрын
​@@VGInterviewsVegeta asked bulmas dad to make a spaceship with more gravity to train in. The capsule ship Goku went in capped at 100x gravity.
@VGInterviews
@VGInterviews 10 ай бұрын
@@whydoyoukeeptalking and?
@whydoyoukeeptalking
@whydoyoukeeptalking 10 ай бұрын
@@VGInterviews so it has nothing to do with "best results" it's just as high as he could train atm
@SizzIsNotAHumanBeing
@SizzIsNotAHumanBeing Жыл бұрын
Idk how I got here, but I loved the video. However, it’s the outro of your videos that made me subscribe. Here for the journey, and Im buckling up now 😁
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan Жыл бұрын
Thank you man, that means a lot
@proimagerah
@proimagerah Жыл бұрын
Love this bro
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan Жыл бұрын
Thanks man I appreciate it!
@Jay-Jones
@Jay-Jones Жыл бұрын
You should make more videos. You're pretty good at this, no BS
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! And I will 💪🏻
@justinatahdiawuoh4878
@justinatahdiawuoh4878 5 ай бұрын
I'm in love with your content and I need more
@jacobpurdy9410
@jacobpurdy9410 9 ай бұрын
Bro just came across this chanel and it’s amazing. Please keep making videos!! :)
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 9 ай бұрын
Will do bro 💪🏻
@tntalchemist
@tntalchemist 16 күн бұрын
Hearing you talk about how they dropped back down to Super Saiyan 1 to perfect it and then start working towards the true ascended super saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, reminded me of just how much I loved how the Transformations were treated in Dragon Ball Z
@fastng
@fastng Жыл бұрын
diminishing returns
@LCTesla
@LCTesla 10 ай бұрын
He didn't just power himself up massively... he got Gohan across the SSJ barrier and prepared him for winning the fight against Cell... thats a double victory.
@JakeSmith-mq5dc
@JakeSmith-mq5dc 4 ай бұрын
These training camps are exactly what comes to my mind when I hear the misconceptions that Goku is an absentee Father who is a fighting maniac that cares nothing but getting stronger and the thrill of fights. I am like, that toxicity is literally the workaholic Vegeta they are describing, not the Goku you just described and showed tons of clips to support. Goku is literally living that Turtle School lifestyle play, work and eat plenty.
@shanewright344
@shanewright344 Жыл бұрын
I think a close second would be Goku's training in the Otherworld. He was surrounded by other deceased fighters from across the universe, and some of them were even stronger than he was at the time. I think a great example was Pikkon, who really brought out Goku's competitive nature, and his love of fighting. And, as we all know, Goku loves fighting with opponents stronger than he is in order to improve as a fighter, and get stronger. There's also the many different training methods and equipment he had at his disposal in the Otherworld as well. For example, Goku could simulate gravity training with weighted gear, like when he was shadow boxing with those massive weights strapped to his arms and legs. If you really think about it, the Otherworld is literally the best gym Goku could've asked for at that time. Next, there were also tournaments to compete in, so you can bet Goku would've been preparing to compete in those tournaments as well. It maybe wasn't as effective as using the hyperbolic time chamber, but Goku had nothing but time in the Otherworld to train his body, achieve new and more powerful forms of Super Saiyan, compete in tournaments, and spar with some of the most powerful fighters in the Universe.
@atshabal
@atshabal Жыл бұрын
And he could pushed himself to the maximum since he couldn't die.
@shanewright344
@shanewright344 Жыл бұрын
@@atshabal I think you could be right about that. After Goku was revived in the Buu Saga, I think I remember hearing from some other sources that Goku's living body couldn't maintain the power of SSJ 3 as effectively, and that's why he had trouble trying to maintain the form during the final fight with Kid Buu. However, I don't remember where I heard this, so I don't know if it is actually official.
@IssakPlayz
@IssakPlayz 10 ай бұрын
Awesome videos dude I wish I had a friend who we could analyze their workout routines with a martial artist perspective 🤣💪👊
@FeelnLikeIDoEveryDay
@FeelnLikeIDoEveryDay Жыл бұрын
I base my entire training regiment on this part of the series. It’s all true. I’ve made great progress following the mentality Goku lays down during the training. Especially how he trained after leaving the chamber. Train rest train again. No need to over do it. Sometimes the hardest thing to do when you love to train is not to train, since that too can help with your training. It’s counterintuitive
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more man
@ericcollins6231
@ericcollins6231 10 ай бұрын
That was Goku's first ever lesson in training. "Work hard, study well and eat and sleep plenty. That's the Turtle Hermit way to learn." - Master Roshi
@insanedumpling123
@insanedumpling123 3 ай бұрын
These are so good, and motivation for my training 😂
@ADL21
@ADL21 Жыл бұрын
Fully agree. trained with a specific goal and he succeeded. Efficient training is the best.
@MisterDirge
@MisterDirge Жыл бұрын
@2:40 I never noticed but in this still King Kai in the back looking sad while Goku is happy is just hilarious lol
@bofasofa9399
@bofasofa9399 26 күн бұрын
7:35 the reason they plateau'ed here was because the Cell Games Saga was supposed to be the end of the series with Gohan taking over, as per Toriyama's plans
@JamesBoullion
@JamesBoullion Ай бұрын
Great first video
@Tgoodman23
@Tgoodman23 Жыл бұрын
That was fire!
@tylxrd7
@tylxrd7 9 ай бұрын
Nice explanation this training arc had a little bit of everything
@JC-rg2qp
@JC-rg2qp 3 ай бұрын
That was you 1st video 😳!!!!? Wow, great job!
@onelove5130
@onelove5130 Ай бұрын
Thanks for that verse at the end
@AaronBrown2015
@AaronBrown2015 Жыл бұрын
Bro! Love your video man glad I’m here for the first one! Would love to join in on a discussion one day! And you’re a believer! Love that touch at the end and it’s what we’ve been focused on at my church! Not a coincidence!
@zdenshadowdragonbyzideodi8819
@zdenshadowdragonbyzideodi8819 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@donaldharper9223
@donaldharper9223 Жыл бұрын
Hey like pray at the end thx u 4 video 🙏🏾
@donaldharper9223
@donaldharper9223 2 ай бұрын
Everyone them is best
@SpectacularKevin
@SpectacularKevin 10 ай бұрын
I’m loving these videos but what really sold me was the scripture at the end! Amazing work!
@Mr_SAIYAN-6
@Mr_SAIYAN-6 2 ай бұрын
Great video man. Can’t believe this was your first try.
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate it man
@Hossemoney
@Hossemoney 5 ай бұрын
Your videos are dope ! Do one on goku’s gi
@extragirth64
@extragirth64 29 күн бұрын
Goku had to make up for his 3-year training camp preparing for Androids.
@Twomp209
@Twomp209 4 ай бұрын
I've been weight training for almost 2 years now and I go to failure. I pick right back up after I catch my breath. I do multiple different muscles during and I always go to failure safely. Gotta say goku training for namek is a huge inspiration and is always in my mind during my sessions. I'm not super saiyan yet but I'm approaching kaioken.
@6Angello1
@6Angello1 Жыл бұрын
How do u have only 462 subs with this kind of quality content ur vids are so good and entairtaining bro, youtubers with millions of subs dont make vids this good
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! What a compliment
@jasonhearn5818
@jasonhearn5818 4 ай бұрын
Incredible his surge in subs being well over 6k
@6Angello1
@6Angello1 4 ай бұрын
@jasonhearn5818 I hope bro keeps growing , this entairtainment I get from these videos are unreleal
@corruptiongamer4566
@corruptiongamer4566 Жыл бұрын
All im gonna say is that if piccolo and krillin trained in the hyperbolic time chamber and as well as tein and yamncha too. Everyone would have been better off but there always has to be a massive threat for characters in the series to get better and if the characters were all stronger then that would just mean that the threat levels wouldn't be as high. Sensible even says in the vide baisically that when there are high stakes characters grow even more than they would normally because of the sense of a higher danger drives them. Fantastic video sensible : )
@AdventVFX
@AdventVFX 2 ай бұрын
I think it was the 7 years, there's things he learned there that you can't even fathom to know like Ssj3 which is still the hardest form to achieve without resorting to fusion. A divine form that was only achieved in an environment where there was no limitations to your body.
@NotJustSomeGuy-789
@NotJustSomeGuy-789 4 ай бұрын
The IntzTrans result training has got to be the peak - it cemented the capacity for infinite future gains. But 100% the concept of the Time Chamber is max camp, and the arc made what good training is super clear.
@Drizz1717
@Drizz1717 4 ай бұрын
His finger thing with Trunks is a showcase of his ki training on planet Yardrat!
@indradarmawan6541
@indradarmawan6541 3 ай бұрын
completely agree with hyperbolic time chamber camp being goku's best. namek spaceship camp was second best with senzu bean complementing saiyanjin genetic ability to became more powerful than before after near death experience need to add goku's one and only 2 months training camp with krillin wearing weigthed turtle shell just because it is so iconic and being the base of all his training honorable mention : kami's lookout 3 years training camp preparing for piccolo jr strengthening mind & body connection gosh i sound like martial arts enthusiast who watch too much dragon ball anw. enjoyed ur video so much.
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 3 ай бұрын
I only included the dbz training camps for this vid. But I made a video about Goku’s DB training with Krillin. I think it was longer actually, like 8 months. Glad you liked the vid
@indradarmawan6541
@indradarmawan6541 3 ай бұрын
my bad. the manga said it was 7 months. i literally just finished watching that said video great channel bro
@eutidk1145
@eutidk1145 Ай бұрын
That bubble bath scene is my favorite lol
@percivalblack7791
@percivalblack7791 10 ай бұрын
New sub 🤧
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 10 ай бұрын
My man 😎
@Savichii__
@Savichii__ 3 ай бұрын
Fire ass videos bro
@kennethkatekovich9243
@kennethkatekovich9243 9 ай бұрын
good shit
@DaniG._.German
@DaniG._.German 3 ай бұрын
Vegeta's Yardrat training gives a glimpse to what Goku did.
@goncaloferreira6429
@goncaloferreira6429 Жыл бұрын
video makes me think of the way the series could hve gone. Goku would have been a great master to his students, following the way Roshi taught him. On another note, the diferent ways goku and vegita trained in the Chamber kind of mirror the turtle school vs crane school of he original DB, one more balanced and the other more literal, more ruthless and direct. Important in a series that as inpired many to learn to stay fit and to learn how to fight.
@M.J.A.
@M.J.A. Жыл бұрын
soo gooood
@Benji_Jokjo
@Benji_Jokjo 4 ай бұрын
8:15 symboliezed by his gi having no kanji on it, like him being under roshi, kaio sama, and being beyond his own symbol in namek, literally is peak goku lol
@truthhertz10
@truthhertz10 3 ай бұрын
In my headcanon I think Goku realised that even after 3 years training still wasn't enough to catch the androids, he needed to train smarter, not harder. Personally though, I'd say the 7 years was immense. I mean he went from ssj1 to ssj3 where he can literally stop buu by himself if he wanted. It doesn't seem like much because we think "he probs got ssj2 quick" but remember, Vegeta also had 7 years and he only got ssj2.
@johnrichard5374
@johnrichard5374 Ай бұрын
Can't master something yourself unless you can teach it someone else. Goku finally took the time to focus on training Gohan and in the process learned the things he couldn't have learned on his own or even with his prior training with Piccolo.
@MarathonGuy1337
@MarathonGuy1337 Ай бұрын
I think theirs another suitable reason why Goku cuts it short I think he was trying to show Gohan what he'll be fighting for, the peaceful world they enjoyed with friends and family, hoping this would be the final motivator to release Gohan hidden potential against cell
@MrMasenko100
@MrMasenko100 Жыл бұрын
🔥
@justinweber4977
@justinweber4977 10 ай бұрын
Neat video! I wonder, do you plan to analyze the training camps he went through in Dragonball?
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 10 ай бұрын
I do. I’m definitely at least gonna do one on his first training with Master Roshi and Krillin.
@csakegybolond264
@csakegybolond264 3 ай бұрын
I like how it reflects real life. There are going to be periods when you won't really learn anything new and you become comfortable until something make you realize you have to take a new path so you can face your next challenge. It's pretty similar to Rocky. He had to change his ways to have a chance against Drago, Lang and Creed. He hadn't taken boxing seriously enough for years to be able win against Apollo at first. Plus he become comfortable after he won against him so Lang could whoop him.
@Tomatrix
@Tomatrix 3 ай бұрын
The time chamber had to be the number one, not only because in that dimension, the training of one year is done in one day in our reality, but also something im not sure it was explore: bringing training gear, specially with the help of capsules. With capsules, Goku could bring with him gym equipment, some supplies like senzu beans, or even better, bring something he could use in that infinito space like a space ship similar to the one he used to travel to Namek, with the gravity training room.
@moodygaming9559
@moodygaming9559 Ай бұрын
I appreciate the great content and the Bible verses at the end keep em coming. Keep us strong physically mentally and spiritually through the Lords Word
@particalsayian6621
@particalsayian6621 13 күн бұрын
I would say his training with Whis was his best training; because it was the beginning of his unlocking Autonomous Ultra Instinct.
@Lucas-sz9pk
@Lucas-sz9pk 10 ай бұрын
Noice bro
@imjustadog1897
@imjustadog1897 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine if Goku and Gohan didn't leave until they both reached ss2. I think Gohan could've been able to actively ascend without tragedy. He used his experiences from the saiyan and frieza arc, plus a life of death situation to go super saiyan. He pretty much could've used the same thing to reach ss2. The hyperbolic time chamber and the 7 years in otherworld were Goku's best training camps.
@matthiasceus
@matthiasceus 10 ай бұрын
I don't think that would have been possible since it would've been a little hard to reuse the same past trauma to achieve a form even greater than the one you achieved using the same trauma. It's kind of like if someone did you wrong in the past and you got your get back after getting extremely angry and then in the future you think back on it and despite already getting your get back, you get even angrier than you were at the time it happened. The difference between Gohan on planet namek and in the chamber was that he was significantly stronger then which allowed him to be able to achieve super saiyan. They definitely could've been slightly stronger but it would have been useless since they were nearing a cap. (at the time at least)
@imjustadog1897
@imjustadog1897 10 ай бұрын
@@matthiasceus Anger, rage, grief or whatever brings out the power. If a warriors mind is honed enough, they can bring out the power without emotion. Gohan first achieved the next level through intense training. It might’ve been brief, but he definitely had it in his back pocket. He was just exhausted. The only reason he didn’t have it on cue was because Goku didn’t tell him about it. He said that he wanted Gohan to be stronger than him. Gohan did become stronger, but he didn’t believe he did until his father told him after his fight with Cell. Later Vegeta, Goku, Gotenks and even future Trunks would achieve the form through training.
@DaniG._.German
@DaniG._.German 3 ай бұрын
Vegeta approaches training as an Ozaru: massive bump of power for a short time. That was his downfall.
@matthewjenkins4559
@matthewjenkins4559 6 күн бұрын
The Time Chamber is perfect for the Saiyans but for normal humans. It still will aged us by the amount of time spent in there and that’s if your body is physically capable enough to handle the pressure in there
@chrislewis8905
@chrislewis8905 11 ай бұрын
Goku didn’t have a heart attack he drank McDonald’s sprite 2:29
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 11 ай бұрын
Lmao
@Gelwain
@Gelwain Ай бұрын
Late to the party, but you also have to remember that Goku got a hell of a lot more out of that training than Vegeta did because Vegeta never had a master to impart their wisdom. Roshi, from day one, always stressed the "Train Well, Eat Well and Rest Well" philosophy; something that was brought up again in Super. Goku fully adopted that mindset from his master, no matter how much stronger he became compared to him. Roshi is a perv, but he's an absolute genius when it comes to life and body wisdom, and instructing pupils. Case-in-point: Toei merch-selling shennanigans aside: look how much more quickly Vegeta realizes his potential while training under an actual master in Whis? Once Goku and Vegeta begin training under the same master, Vegeta never falls that far behind Goku, to the point of effectively being stronger than him in current canon. By this same logic, Gohan will become an incredible teacher to whomever he mentors in the future, as he himself had two amazing teachers in Goku and Piccolo.
@SunnyDEElight
@SunnyDEElight 10 ай бұрын
Personally I’d choose the roshi training in db with krillin, we saw him learn so much, and do so much, from swimming, to racing, to reading and studying and learning. But if this is like strictly just Goku training camps then yea this is right there at the top, showcased everything he’s learned from his masters and he’s utilizing it while also teaching it to Gohan. This is also my theory as to why future Gohan wasnt as strong as even post-namek goku, because he never got fully trained by Goku thus never learning the turtle school, or king kai or kamis training regiment.
@DaniG._.German
@DaniG._.German 3 ай бұрын
The Hyperbolic Time Chamber was the best camp because Goku got to hangout with his son, that's all.
@Canabees1090
@Canabees1090 7 күн бұрын
popo's training was beast
@stevenwolfe591
@stevenwolfe591 20 күн бұрын
I agree with your choice, but would argue that the 3 years of training with Piccolo and Gohan were sort of related. The key to that training isn't Goku, like the time chamber, but Piccolo and Gohan, who likely received major powerups. It was also Goku's first time seeing Gohan's potential first hand as a sparring partner. They effectively had to get on Goku's level, to some extent. Also consider to unlock Super Saiyan, your base power has to be pretty high, as we see with Goku and is implied with Goten and Trunks. Sure, Piccolo and Gohan had some of their own power boosts on Namek, but nothing like Goku. Thus, I suspect in their three year training, Goku helped close the gap.
@kamehamehuyle9108
@kamehamehuyle9108 3 ай бұрын
it was a Strength vs Mastery type of thing. Both valid but using your strength effectively is more important than being physically stronger especially in fighting
@0744401
@0744401 Ай бұрын
Oh shit, it's true. Goku went in having only witnessed Cell's second form and, being already outclassed by his first - trained so hard he got competitive with his third, and had Gohan's 50% injured self surpass even Super Perfect Cell.
@gizaguzi95
@gizaguzi95 10 ай бұрын
Goku also stated those years in the hyperbolic time chamber were the best of his life when he was gonna instant transmission cell away from earth
@NoLimitSquad
@NoLimitSquad 10 ай бұрын
Going from 8000 to 90000 to 3mil in just a few months is insane
@damianodidomenico4756
@damianodidomenico4756 3 ай бұрын
THIS WAS YOUR FIRST VIDEO? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? This was a very interesting video, very well done and all. But I'm not entirely sold. I still think the Namek one was way better, and you kinda sold it like it was. Also, the HTC training was more focused on Gohan than Goku, so it's kinda hard.
@user-ry2vo8le3g
@user-ry2vo8le3g 5 ай бұрын
For this specific training the reason feels more rooted to the partner. Whilst vegeta had acceptsd trunks as his son trunks still did something vastly faster than he himself could do. Add that with the fact that MOST of Vegeta training revolves around his body being physically able to not only withstand huge amounts of power but huge damage as well then it makes sense. Goku and gohan maxed out in their base forms, while vegeta was stronger than Goku his base saiyan form wasn't mastered meaning the same benifits of less ki drain. His body effectively being lighter and more nimble for combat and so on Goku training is more so refinement then growing while most of Z saga Vegeta still revolved around being a warrior not a fighter What i mean is he expects himself to take damage and encounter stronger opponents so as a warrior he's looking to over power his opponent with his body rather than his refined technique
@chozen3769
@chozen3769 10 ай бұрын
can you make a video about all the original dragon ball training arcs?
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 10 ай бұрын
I probably will, but I’m for sure planning on doing a video dedicated to Goku’s training with Roshi and Krillin before the World Tournament.
@MontelWright-zp6hf
@MontelWright-zp6hf 21 күн бұрын
Best training for Goku was in my opinion definitely on his way to namek due to growth levels as far as small spans of time but the hyperbolic Time chamber was a close second in my opinion.
@akeslav
@akeslav 10 ай бұрын
2:23 Heart virus. The heart attack was a DBZA thing 😄
@conradojan6938
@conradojan6938 10 ай бұрын
What if they had gravity machine inside time chaber???
@kalevipoeg6916
@kalevipoeg6916 4 ай бұрын
Question: why in F##K didn't they just have shenron remove the heart virus? They knew about it for THREE YEARS, and had dragonballs
@arathbautista4131
@arathbautista4131 4 ай бұрын
quick correction. the name for the Buff and Bulky grade of ssj is Ultra Saiyan or Super Vegeta/ Super Goku/Super Trunks. an Ascended Saiyan is a SSJ2 as confirmed by el manga legendario and the Daizenshu
@demi-femme4821
@demi-femme4821 Жыл бұрын
The three years before the Androids was basically Goku training Gohan and Piccolo so they could catch up.
@GJR181
@GJR181 Жыл бұрын
it was gravity room, goku had zenkai boosts + training that was 100x gravity
@arclite95
@arclite95 3 ай бұрын
How do you know you have it away in the thumbnail? Are you making thumbnails before you make the video??
@SensibleSaiyan
@SensibleSaiyan 3 ай бұрын
Most of the time yeah, i make the thumbnail before I record the audio
@arclite95
@arclite95 3 ай бұрын
@@SensibleSaiyan ohhhh okay true. I see it’s a 3 piece project all together. I didn’t think about that.
@danfromNY
@danfromNY 10 ай бұрын
if I was a head coach of a football team, I’d make DBZ required viewing during offseason training
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