Aigid would probably keep repeating the question until the query is filled lol

I mean they already did that was Zato before him lol

@@NeoBoneGirl I think they meant a character who needs to build something to get started rather than "goofy puppet esque character" zato could get going as soon as he got a KD

@@PakuTheMagnificent I mean managing Eddie is a huge part of playing Zato. Funny thing is, all Arakune needs is one hit to get curse started, too, because if you’re playing him there’s no reason not to learn the 100% curse combos since that shit is so good

@@NeoBoneGirl You're comparing a puppet character to a meter resource/momentum one. They're two different archetypes. And yes Zato has a meter, but the meter is literally just Eddie's health that regenerates, hell they did EXACTLY THAT in ultimax with Ken, except Ken just has to actively recover Koromaru's health(not that it mattered cause doing any damage to Koromaru was a nightmare) Zato is already at full power, you just have to reduce it but removing Eddie. Labrys/Arakune need to build up that power, through winning trades and getting that one meter building combo, that's what makes them momentum based. Two archetypes, opposite ends of the spectrum. One wants already has their peak, the other has to reach it.

​@@NeoBoneGirl Zato starts with summon. He doesn't need to earn meter to summon. Completely different than Arakune, Labrys or Junpei who need to build their resource.

arc do love making their MCs insanely good. i get the reason, so new players have someone to gravitate to, but persona 4 arena didn't get updated much, so dealing with yu's oki was pain.

@@AchedSphinx I got so salty about that in Blazblue...Ragna bad for one version? Give him fucking everything! Tsubaki or Bullet underperforming over a whole gen? Better nerf their bloody charge cancels lol.

Soooo, a bunch of gaming nerds are salty because they don't know how to play the character. Good to know that people have too much time on their hands.

@@shirothegamer7574 Your deal is confusing, but I'll try to clarify anyway. People can stick with low tiers for lots of reasons, but usually it comes down to pure playstyle preference and enjoyment. For example, grappler mains will know if their character is shit, but they tend to stick with it anyway because they just like playing grapplers, and that helps offset the shitty feeling of playing a weak character. The Labrys situation is like if the grappler turned out to be a keepaway zoner character at top levels. So not only have you invested all this time into playing a weak character, you are also playing a character that turned out to not even be fun to play for you. It's like a double whammy of disappointment. I would've still enjoyed Labrys if she was at least fun to play at high levels, but she just isn't because she was made for a completely different kind of player that's counterintuitive to her design pitch.

Labrys is my favourite character to play, her normals are amazing. I had to get used to the Okizeme and setplay, but even that I got through. It's really sad how they did her dirty in both P4A and P4AU. It was very clear she was bottom tier, maybe only beat by Elizabeth in the first game, so if they had updated her axe meter to be less lose more she would've been a bit more competent. Her problem isn't only her axe meter though, she has problems with her persona tools too, they're very slow, comboing with them is a pain and they just don't provide Labrys with the protection she needs to get in. It's a similar story with her DP, it's a cool concept but it's just inherently worse than a standard DP, at high levels it just never hits. But she's super fun, if they do a P5Arena I hope she returns upgraded but with her normals intact.

I don't think they fixed her in bbtag. A lot of the problems she has in p4a are in bbtag. She's fun but she still not great in bbtag. She doesn't even get increased hitstun from red axe anymore

@@xavierwashington7848 I feel that increased hitstun by the time you even reach red would be a bit much for a game where a match can last a minute, BBTAG wise.

@@justsomedude7138 you're right. But she still suffers from being a momentum based in bbtag whenever other characters do her job better

@@xavierwashington7848 Very fair. I still wish she was a weird zoner rushdown, like the green haired lady from UNICLR.

Well, the thing about Bullet is that her charge-up is really fast, she can ToD most of the cast, if not then two-touch them, and her pressure isn't as non-existent. She has really good approaching normals and a healthy mix of highs and lows with good reward.

@@samforrt2898 That's true, her ability to just end rounds once she has you in the corner is really potent. Also helps that she has a projectile, along with a couple command-grab options, to use. It's nothing spectacular, but the option is there and it can force reactions sometimes.

Bullet has way higher comeback potential though, Labrys has like anti comeback potential

Tbf at least bullet's damage is unburstable

Bullet fuks u up, she is the QOL version of power up charas

zenkichi was so much fun to have onscreen

To be fair Labrys did have two of the strongest pressure tools of the game. Buuut you can't play a character just pressing two buttons lol. Her j.b meant that she was the only non-Aigis character to be able to control aerial space which was really strong but they limited her ability to do anything else.

See it's worse than "square one". True square one for Labrys to make her comparable to other characters would be green axe and at LEAST 50 meter. But she gets so much worse than that, especially if she cashes out to close a round.

she’s INSANELY better in 2.0 like she rose from low tier to high tier

wait labrys is buffed in 2.0? oh happy day

@@Zadamanim Persona moves sped up a lot, bubbles actually work in neutral, Axe level barely decreases and EX bull super is an instant red axe. She's still on the lower side of the cast but so so much better.

@@HunterSteven1997 Wait ex bull is instant red axe? As in it PUTS you INTO red axe instead of taking you out of it???

@@Zadamanim yeah. It doesnt do much damage to compensate.

@@HunterSteven1997 man thats weird, she doesnt have her cash out super anymore which was the main reason i played her, but the rest of her kit is way better? I'll probably be able to find new things to like about her gameplay then.

Not sure if you heard but it's getting a rerelease next month on PC/PS/Switch

"It needs a re-release" BOY DO I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU

@@daisukenojobito3807 definitely a must buy for me! Thx for the info much love

@@ubermaster1 thx my dude great news to hear!

she got insanely buffed in 2.0 though

Also strive baby. Also agree with this assessment.

Not every video is meant to be for Strive babies.

@@user-fe5bm6ot8o No, but I would hazard a guess that the majority of LK's viewers haven't played P4U seriously. I just think it would make the video better for most people who end up clicking on it.

I mean, P4A/U also contains Aigis, so...

@@unlurkingsentinel6872 Aigis' archetype isn't a strange experimental though. It's just a micro-meter management character that uses mobility instead of something like a puppet. I do like the dynamic of orgia vs bullets, it seems like they want you to use bullets to stall for orgia, but players figured out pretty fast that she does more than fine without having to zone.