Onyx and surron did this smarter by not adding a VIN . People still get them registered if they want with the frame number, but having a vin like voodoo is going to get you in trouble because it gives the cop something to look up. Therefore negating the fact that it’s not an E bike. Pedals and vins don’t go together in this day and age. So lyric I’m sorry, but this bike should definitely include pegs not have to purchase them. Because it’s more illegal with pedals than pegs. I’m tired of worrying about this bike lol I just want it as an E bike I guess it’s not for me. I already have my motorcycle, car and Van. I guess I will just get a 60 mph push scooter with a removable battery now that they’re making them. Ha no hard feelings. I’ve came to the conclusion that if this bike didn’t have a Vin, I would buy it.

@@MITCH1221 Thanks for your feedback. So you know, the DOT law in both Canada and the United States deems "footrests" as required for mopeds and motorcycles and has approved the use of pedals as these footrests. So it actually isn't "more illegal", it has already been legally approved with pedals. If your concern is being pulled over by a police officer, then that concern still exists on a Sur Ron and Onyx. Technically road rules don't allow any moving two wheeled vehicle with a throttle above 20mph. If you were ever pulled over by a police officer it's not that the VIN is easy to find and can be "looked up", you would be in the same situation as you would be if pulled over on an Onyx, Sur Ron, or any other vehicle traveling at the speed that the police officer was alerted to in the first place. While it's fun to think that the police could think you could pedal your way to 65mph it's not going to be likely, so we would rather that people did the work to register and insure our bikes and we have set them up this way so that it is easier to do. For our upcoming Graffiti X we have tried to satisfy riders like you that want the fastest bike possible in stealth "bike" clothing. So that may be more up your alley.

@@lyriccyclesthank you I didn’t know that I really just want the extra power for hills and if I have to dodge out of a car not planning on using it at high speeds. If, and when I can figure out if I can register it as a moped, and get moped insurance. then I will most certainly buy it. It would be perfect. If you were bike came locked the class 2 at time of purchase, and then people could not have to register it and just get insurance e-bike insurance!

On the Voodoo’s product description it says it comes with a pedal kit that is electronically actuated. Does that mean it has pedal assist?

@@mikes96fs no, not really. The pedals aren’t attached to anything on the rear wheel. If the bike is off the pedals turn but would not move the bike. When the bike is turned on turning the pedals makes the bike move because it signals the motor to turn.

Hey, I was looking at the Ristretto too! Have you ever written a mid-drive and what's the real difference?

​@@tonyholmes9024 instant torque I believe. Faster accelaration

@@luxa_soc Thanks. Do you have to continuously pedal or can you use throttle only if you choose to?

@Tony Holmes you can do either of those two💪

@@tonyholmes9024 What I like is the settings where you can lower output to be legal and change to full power when you are allowed to use it. Amazing powerful bike over any other I've seen.

CRF300l or KLX 300 for that money all day

@@plokmko0 I tell you though if Super 73 drops the cx1 for $5,000 with no dealer fees I would consider it. But they are saying like $10,000 which is insane. Even new gas motorcycles are insane I would just buy one on marketplace with no miles on it for like 2 0r 3k off sticker price

Look up ssb battery. We are making battery upgrades crazy fast in all actuality, we’ve went through about 3 types of recharging batteries in the last ~30ish years if I remember

100 miles of range is possible, but as you said, needs a lot more battery capacity and this comes with cost. Damon Motorycles is building a 200 mile range electric sport bike, but the price is over $30k. You don’t have to worry about the Voodoo on hills. It accelerates faster than you can barely hold on. That motor is crazy.

Sur Ron upgraded seems like a better investment than this. These reviewers seem to ride these bikes a few times and judge it as if it were a daily driver for 1k+ miles. That’s why I’ve been very cautious in spending for a good scooter and stuck to a cheaper one that’s easily replaceable though slower and uncomfortable.

@@nabhanq Agreed. I just don't like the look of a sur ron tbh.

@@notenoughhyo honestly same I know for sure living in a place like London riding one of those id get pulled over lol

@@nabhanq well tbf most of these guys have been riding comparative bikes for a few years, I myself have been riding a emtb conversion for 3 months straight and the only issue I ever had was my rear went flat, replaced it with a new tire and a slime inner tube never had a problem since. So at almost 1000 miles I’d say even bottom of the barrel e-bikes (mine was >$600) are really damn reliable There is also the factor of a upgraded Sur Ron I’ve heard is like 10k after getting the motor, controller and battery upgrade

The Voodoo and Ghost have all of the typical parts of an upgraded Sur Ron but for significantly less money. You’ll be $9-10k into a Sur Ron before it can keep up with the Ghost and Voodoo

The voodoo looks better especially the midnight how can you hate the look 😂 but they could had did better than the ugly green color

I did in march after purchasing they stop answering email I only emailed them after they change the bike.. which I have the risk to ask since I paid in full during the old model… for this I don’t appreciate them .. so I just want my bike this month which I doubt it’ll be ready anyway . Their refund policy sucks too. Saying delivery dates is just an estimate which mean we can be waiting for months and can’t get a refund if wanted

@obeii1 Andrew messaged me on May 9th that deliveries would start going out towards the end of June. In order of purchase date, some people ordered in October 2022, I ordered on March 30 2023.

@@MadMikeBikes we’ll c cus andi Hadnt replied to my messages but I don’t think it’ll be ready cus they changed a lot last month right before delivery. But I still think it’ll b one of the best for the price.. I’m in Philly in I hope I can get a plate , cus I’m not even going to try to e bike this bike n get my shyt pounded lol

@@obeii1805 yeah, that's bullshit that they do that in Philly. I'm in Pittsburgh and they're not that strict. I'll plate it but only if the cops hassle me. Until then I'm gonna chance it.

@@MadMikeBikes lol they see u going 60 miles they’ll soon start paying attention only to see no plates lol they’ll pull u over .. it’s only a matter of time . Like a bomb ticking .. 7k u paid too much 4 that hassle. Plus bro u want insurance if companies will insure it.. I’m sure these bike can’t take a bump 4 shit . Believe me I understand and I was saying the same to myself but once I thought it through it’s best to get it plated

Not if you consider how much it costs to modify a sur ron or an onyx The voodoo is already faster out of the gates with no mods

basically sums it up

Looks better too

I hadn’t came across anyone saying they been scammed and hadn’t received the bike. Where can I find this info at

@@obeii1805 see my comment on this thread about 2 weeks ago, he is 100% right, buy a Lyric at your own risk, I did and feel like a fool for thinking it was a good idea. So many better cheaper options out there if you take the time to look. I will NEVER do business with Lyric again!!!

The X is not going to be that price. It’s basically the 2022 graffiti with suspension and a 60v battery. Trust us, you’re going to love it

​@@lyriccycles So ready for the launch of the Graffiti X!

The eagle looks like a straight up E dirt bike, I don't see that riding in the streets anymore than the lyric.

A lot of ppl have a graffiti so I don’t think the companies a scam

@@obeii1805 that's funny, ask someone who bought one what they went through or better yet look at some of the videos on you tube and read the comments. Not saying you won't get a bike from them, just a warning that it's going to be crap

@@obeii1805 this sums it up pretty well kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jpaSi9SGuNDGe6M.html

@@gordonlardi5194 idk I see good reviews and comments on the graffiti

@@obeii1805 go ahead buy it, tried to save you money but it's a free country

It has motorcycle parts