what options is that they all do the same thing you have to charge them constantly and you paying way more for a toy then a REAL BIKE ITS A NO BRAINER DON'T BUY!

@@ceestone1 ah yes an electric vehicle hater. Anyway I am waiting for eBikes to start getting cheaper so I can get one. I have a Honda 125cc bike and Im starting to avoid using it because i cant stand how loud it is, even after trying to mod it to make it more silent. And its was not loud comparing it to other bikes out there. But I have an EV car and I love how smooth and silent it is, you just hear the wind and your radio and its such a relaxing drive I love it. I am dreaming about having a GOOD eBike someday. Some people really like the smoothness and peacefulness that electric stuff gives while driving, we are not all the same. I also like the ZERO maintenance that EVs have. If it works, it will work for 10 years with zero maintenance

@@azenyr ahh the advocate of you don't know what you talking about the bike you ride a beginner motorcycle and you talk smack Look I owned two ego and yes they are well made if you going to spend that type of cash but what they don't tell you is if something electrical fucks up your screw period on top of that there aren't that many electrical stations either so you can get your bike back running if you go somewhere you better make sure you know wtf you doing and going cuz if not your zero maintenance ebike will cost you have a great day !!

@@ceestone1 Really depends on the country. Mine has almost more electric chargers than gas stations already. And by law every gas station needs to have an electric charger here. But these bikes are not yet good for a road trip. For that I use a car (be it EV or not). These electric bikes are awesome for daily commutes inside the city where you will save a lot in fuel and the end of the year and have a smooth ride even in heavy traffic. And actually the cheaper eBikes cant really be connected to a public charger, only to your home outlet which I think is a HUGE fail, and really limits your capabilities, and thats mostly why they suck for road trips, unless you buy expensive ones

Still waiting to see details for Kawasaki's electric bike coming out this year

He said this is just the start

The even bigger option with Ryvid is that you will have the option of using public charging stations with their J plug interface. This something that most other ev's of this size cannot do. The comparative group includes Monday, Huck, Onyx, and Sondors. The spare battery is a nice idea, but at around $3,000, is an option that few of us would consider. I've sat on the bike and I like the feel, one can sense the low center of gravity right away. Vihn the designer is very actively working on the bolt on accessories. Luckily they are less than 2 hours from me, so I will check up on the progress of development. Just for those commenters out there, none of the bikes in this category are made for longer freeway trips. Depending upon the rider size, the Ryvid will go up to 75-80 mph with the higher geared rear pulley, but the bike is too light for safe sustained travel, plus will eat into battery power right away. I see this good for local city thoroughfares at 45-50 mph. The Nio motorscooter has already implemented swappable batteries in public stations in China where a higher proportion of the city travel is by e-scooters. The detachable battery on the Ryvid is mainly designed for apartment dwellers and theft protection.

@@SilverShadow2LWB the problem with current electrical vehicles is that all the companies are creating it own standard to protect their sale. When you standardize the battery charger port, and the battery can commonly switch between car, the battery price would drop. Personally, I think the concept of charging kios ought to be changed. The battery liability should be borne by the manufacturer or at least whoever that own the kios. The kios should already have pre-charged battery in them and when going to these stations, there is a mechanised loader to remove the drained battery and replace it with a fully charged one. With current unstable lithium technology, the risk should not be transferred to the vehicle owner. This is why, the first step is to have an international consensual on the design of the battery so it can fit into all brands of car. This will drastically reduce the cost of the battery. With such a charging facility, you dont even need to charge at home and be subject to fire risk.

@@SilverShadow2LWB thank you...that's what no one talks about...they just say top speed...the zero fxs can do 85...but trust me...above 65 it doesn't inspire confidence...whether from inconsistencies in surfaces or wind...at 275 lbs it's just too light...but the light weight is what gets the acceleration and range out of the batteries available...and the light weight gives confidence to first time riders with entry level riding dynamics,

It depends.... eMC like these don't. A motorcycle is about experience, not just commuting. This is too limited to give an experience outside of that.

@@IIARROWS the people that are going to be buying these aren't looking for the motorcycle experience. They're looking for a lightweight commuter. If they wanted a motorcycle it would be cheaper to get a used 250-500cc motorcycle than to get something like this.

@@bishop912 Then it doesn't have move value per dollar.

No thanks if I wanted to pay tax insurance and have a mot UK laws I would have a proper motorcycle which I did for 50 years . now I just ride ebikes and save loads of money because these days motorcycles cost to much money

@@keithdainton6043 I hope I never get to where I think Motorcycles cost to much money to be viable transport. Think I'll just end it at that point. Anyone working the McDonalds can buy a new bike.

🤙 thanks dude!

on a global scope 125 class bikes are the broadest market for ev bikes. that top speed seems on par with the market (currently digging around for one, preferably an ybr/cbr/vanvan 125) since the average top speed is between 55-65mph for most, with a few sporty ones pushing 70. at 7.8K it is too steep, indeed. the super soco is sold at what, 4.5k with taxes? Torque is something that needs to be considered a lot on these. i'll pay 7.8K if i get unchanged performance across steep hills on an 1/8th liter bike.

Lifetime biker here and you're right. The Ryvid and Metacycle are promising and I keep hoping they can come up with a 70mph/100mi range, e-anything, that I can match what I get out of a cheap step thru scooter... Nothing electric comes close to my Honda Interstate. I'm sure your bikes smoke the entire electric world as well.

@@johnw65 same here with my Duke 690, and I already have a twin engines electric stand-up scooter for when the focus is the destination and not the trip. But I've yet to see an electric motorcycle that would fill my bill.

Plus no charging and fast fills for more fun.

buy a real scooter instead you might not get the looks but you will get where your going and much cheaper too

@@ceestone1 Maybe. I'm just looking for something electric for the stable. I already have a DRZ and wanted the Zero FX, but i'm not a fan of Zero's business decisions..

I totally agree, the whole deal with Sondors has become interesting. It seems the whole idea the Ryvid dudes have with delivery times is to under promise and over deliver, time shall tell. It also probably helps a lot that they are made in America right here in California so the shipping delays shouldn’t be as much of a concern I would think.

@@JuicedJoyrides California concerns involve taxes, economy, and politics... Def. not the state I knew in the '70's Edit Dec 2022 Occurs to me, where are the motor, batteries, controller, display and other components of this bike made? IS it "Made in America"? Or is it "Assembled" in America... Where's the dealer network?

I canceled my sondors order after failed promises. I also don't expect sondors have good after market support. Deal killer for me.

@@CRPerformance1 The way I see it, They're all made in China and sold by middlemen/distributors who don't even stock spare parts! Lectrics, all made in China! Super 73 same thing! And ONYX, and Ariel, etc... Plan on being a mechanic and doing your own repairs with most of these ebikes.

@@johnw65 I also have an energica, but the dealer is 4 hours from me. So yeah, I do my own work. But they have been great getting parts to me. It's made in Italy.

🙏 noted

hope to have more videos on this bike soon

or blended regen braking on the rear brake. works very well for ev's. It just needs to be seamless especially at low speeds I wouldnt want a motorcycle that would apply too strong regen just when letting go the throttle

I think he said that the production line regen braking will start at 30 % which is still not bad but the owner could go in and reprogram that % higher but I wouldn't !!!

🤙

It really is

@@JuicedJoyrides The whole deal is sweet. That removable battery, the storage options etc. I’ll have to settle for a klx 300sm in the Philippines but dang do I want one of these.

There has been a recent breakthrough which will double the energy density of batteries very soon

Thank you for the detailed comment, I agree with everything you’re saying. Looking forward to seeing the production model, I love how these dudes are straightforward and it just felt like hanging out with friends the whole time.

@@JuicedJoyrides Cancelled my Metabike order as soon as I saw the spec and my pleasure with them increases positively with every interaction and revelation from Ryvid. Compared to the absolute stonewall of customer service Sondors put up, and the wealth of information coming along its development, I'm so freaking excited!

@@gudolph but why you buying the same thing if you go with this bike hell get a scooter lol!

@@ceestone1 they're not the same. Frame design, ergonomic seat adjustment, brakes, motor position, weight, etc. And I want a highway capable bike that I can cruise around arches National Park or the farmlands nearby. An electric motorcycle of this size and power is quite literally something I've wanted since I was 8 years old and read about them in an old popular mechanics. Decades since then it's FINALLY a reality!

@@JuicedJoyrides what’s the price on that thingw

I’ve written and reviewed many eBikes, I agree they’re awesome. You can get some exercise on them and they go pretty quickly to. If you like Ebike’s you’d love something like this.

Your poor wife...XD Just kidding, man. This bike looks awesome and I hope you get your license. Enjoy your ebike in the meantime! Love from the U.S.

I would too, I think Dong will hit me up when they have a production bike ready

yea but you buying a moped lol at 7 grand you got to be crazy!

@@ceestone1 I agree! My motorcycle has done 700 mile days, no problem... I might buy a 750x48v18Ah ebike for $1k as a toy to play around town, commute short distances, etc. These emotorbikes are entertaining conversation until they have a 300 mile range, minimum....

@@johnw65 yea funny how all these advertisment for ebikes are mostly false but yea its entertainment hell i bought one so yea no where near what they promise at all

I've got my Metacycle the only problem I'm having is My ebikes I have gotten recently (The Mad Mod and The Rockstar are being severely neglected) and I can not get enough time in the seat. It is the most fun I have ever had on 2 wheels and I've been riding motorcycles my entire life. (Almost 60 Years) I've owned just about every kind of motorcycle, Right now I've settled into my 1999 Yamaha Venture Royal 1300 and now have over 150,000 miles on her. Do yourself a favor and don't buy an electric motorcycle until you've ridded the $6.5K Metacycle. It won't be long till they are all over the place. and you'll be able to ride for yourself. I do not understand all the negative about Metacycle from people who have never even seen one in person much less taken a ride on one of the most adrenaline pumping machines I've ever had between my legs. I'll upload the last couple days videos and you can see what I mean. You'd probably say I'm a little on the aggressive side when riding my motorcycles. Grey Galas on KZfaq.

@@md2apc You can always entertain some of your other sweet rides when Metababy is recharging... When asked why I have 4 motorcycles, I tell em, "Variety is the Spice of Life"....

Good points, as I’ve upgraded mine I’ve become hyper concerned about theft anytime I lock up and leave it out of site. It kinda sucks

I agree

That will be dope

True on all accounts sir. I am in the same boat as you. What rear suspension did you go with by the way? This is one of the last things I need to upgrade on my bike, and yeah basically it’s not even a Sur Ron anymore

me too, I want this to commute to work but I also have a 25-30 min drive to work at 75mph

this bike aint gonna do it...nothing under 20k will...maybe the new livewire at 16K

He totally avoided demonstrating the battery removal!

Thanks for telling me about it, it actually looks awesome, I like that it’s only like 150 lbs. hopefully I can try one!

Specs are bs tho. All the tests I've seen the Sondors is underperforming.

@@zacharyb2723 This will too. All specs are cod. They are made to sell motorcycles not be informative to the consumer.

Same, I hope to get on a production model soon

The Anthem is now cheaper than the District (when spec'd with a similar sized battery option) plus it's got more creature comforts like the seat actuator, wider seat, and storage compartment. Both have optional rear racks, and the District can be spec'd with larger batteries for more range. Anthem is quieter and smoother too (belt drive vs. chain). Me personally, I'd pick the Anthem. I love the look and now it's a better value.

Thanks, I think that this bike would fit you fine, I am 5 foot 17, some people like to say 6’5”

Definitely!

I’d hope so

Yes, their website FAQ explains locking and security for stating bike and locking battery

Yeah my upgraded Sur Ron is less than half the weight with similar power, totally different animals though, both are fun in different ways. The ryvid is much more comfortable and feels stable at higher speeds, would be a better commuter for sure

For the price and what you get. Its not bad tbh. It's a good middle, the livewire one is sitting at 20 k. The third line is gonna be estimated around 16k. The zero bike at 20k ish and has features locked. Cheapest zero is around 13k. Any cafe racer e bike is around 3k-4k and doesn't get you the speed or miles. This is expected to compete vs sondors, super 73, eventually nui's e motorcycle. My choices were either this or the kollter after watching this video I pre-ordered this one.

@@stopdropro for 20k i can get a sur ron and put all the best mods on it, buy another one and still have money left over. for me it doesnt make sense to spend 20k and get maybe 75 miles out of it, hopefully batttery tech will fix that. i guess its two different bikes, sur ron is awesome onroad and offroad, but these are strictly commuters perfect getting coffee at starbucks or going to the mall.

These electric bikes/motos could really benefit from 2 gears, would make all the difference

Gears would reduce range because of friction, it's not that beneficial. It would do more in bigger bikes built for highway, this is not for that.

@@IIARROWS True but it would be nice to have a derailer type of system or equivilent so if you do a lot of highway keep it in the top gear, if you do more city keep it in the lower gear.

Only thing I would say Land Moto has more range with the bigger battery 112 miles .

You should have seen all the ones I edited out 😆

I mean, you definitely get more power for the money going with gas, but you also have a lot more maintenance to take care of. Do you have a garage where you can charge it?

They are really totally different machines. The Sur Ron feels much more like a bicycle as it only weighs 120ish lbs with my mods, and it has 12kw power, and a short wheel base, and bouncy suspension. The Sur Ron feels a lot quicker due to its power to weight ratio, the front end pops off the ground like a feather, but much less stable at high speeds above 30 or so. The Ryvid accelerates less rapidly, but feels way more stable and able to cruise at higher speeds, and much more motorcycle like, as it is. Both are fun but entire different experiences. Hope this helps!

@@JuicedJoyrides I guess I was just thinking of what I call the Sur Ron kids in LA that almost never ride off road. Their bikes are total built for the street and after new controller, battery, wheel and tires, suspension and more they are spending, easily as much as the Ryvid

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