If I could like this comment again, I would. There's a lot of products that claim to be designed by "the community" or something nowadays, and maybe it's true but it doesn't really seem to affect what the end product is. Maybe it helped *that* company make the right choices that they wouldn't have otherwise, but it seems there's always a company that's already doing that.

And all those dudes still probably just bought Common Projects anyways.

@@kinguin7 this is the first time i heard a product was designed by the community

@@gcg8187 no, it happens all the time with headphones, keyboards, fountain pens, etc… Pretty much with every niche product

@@qwertpoiuy430 and it always ends up mid

However it can be yelling in a vacuum. Best to check different sources to not confirm bias

Yeah, I'm sure /pol/ and /b/ offer very rational and non-toxic advice

The heck with you, you twit. They should've made these shoes with the clear leather harvested from the aliens captured at Area 51.

@Mars Retti what is 4chan?

It depends. Sometimes they can be all spun up about things by one person with an agenda, and get focused on details that won't matter to the people who will actually be spending the money.

About 30% of it was sizing questions ha ha

Rose Anvil LOL

@Ethan Stam possible, but they'd have to go through more effort and the truth will always come out. People could just buy the actual product from the store and review them too, so it's really hard to say. Plus if you are caught lying as a company it's hard to build that rep back up. So definitely risky to do that, or they shouldn't send one at all and fake the marketing.

The best way to get the respect of the people and potential customers.

Ethan Stam 🤔 damn that is something

@@nouahlevi Makeup community has done this. A company worked with a very prominent KZfaqr and sent her a 'good' product for her to test and promote. The mass produced ones for the public turned out to be of a much lesser quality. There was a time delay but the public eventually caught on, but the company still made bank by that time. Even duped the KZfaqr whose name was attached to it. And it wasn't enough for them to go under. Still think they are around. In this specific case, working with the forum, there is no way they'd get away with this. They'd have to send all the forum people good shoes then cheap ones to normal buyers buying based on that group's review.

Eh? They only told him because he asked........ Pretty sly if you ask me

Candice Cutthroat cause it s easy to wear

It's honestly hard to find basic white shoes that are high quality but not $500+

xerosagas just buy white leather vans old skools

xerosagas ever heard of kswiss? $50

its peak hipster, soon they will all be uniform, red lumberjack shirt, white sneakers , black skinnyjeans, glasses as displayed in the video, full soy beard ,man bun and vw golf are optional.

Idk if it would be interesting but I'd love to have a break down of one of their stilettos. Some of them look really basic and I wonder where the added value on these tiny shoes is.

@Marc Carran very strong disagree.

@Marc Carran well his common projects video is one of his most viewed video

Would love to see him dissect some harness wyatts

expect the saint laurent's to not be impressive at all

My thoughts exactly. Has to be handmade and affordable as well. Fucking people are the worst.

this is a horrible strawman

I have a pair of the crown Harlestone shells, and while they are of course damn good and also comfortable (due to the generously sized last), they definitely do not have a modern silhouette or styling like Archibald/Margom-based sneakers. You definitely sacrifice some 'cool factor' and sleekness in exchange for the higher quality construction and materials.

Oops I must have accidentally cut that out. It is a full grain calf skin. It’s basically the same thickness as all of the rest of the white sneakers. I’m not sure if I’m going to do the V2, it kind of depends on how this video does and if people want to see it.

@@RoseAnvil Maybe you can add that info as a pinned comment or add it to the description with an annotation in the video? People love the leather knowledge.

@@RoseAnvil I would love to see a V2. This video made me very interested in maybe getting a pair but I would like to see if they actually adressed the issues proporly

​@@RoseAnvil So it's the same thickness, has the blue hue. Are we really sure it's veg tan beyond what they have claimed? Why would chromium salts be added if it was regular veg tan? As you say in the video, they should definitely do a proper full veg tan sneaker and I'm glad you haven't just taken their word for it 100%. I don't think anyone is delusional enough to think it would sit at the same price point as chrome tan but it would be interesting to see how much more as it is only then imo that you far exceed the other white sneaker brands (common projects, axel arigato and so on..)

Will Sherwood-King the white calf has some chromium salts added to it so it achieves the brilliant white colour. I’ll copy and paste the answer to Rose here. So the white calf is a vegetable tanned leather but some chromium salts are added early (i think i understood this right) in the process. However the process is primarily veg tan as the core (again pardon my ignorance) is tanned by the longer veg tan process so much so the skin is marketed as veg tan. I think the term you used might be right but they explained it as exactly or especially about this colour. It is definitely not a chrome tanned skin. Most of the other colours in calf are full veg tan. We don't use white in our handwelted collection. The Anticato is painted crust aside from anticato tan which is painted tan. We have posted pics of the open shoe in crust on the forum.

Coming soon-ish

Those are my fav!

Northampton is the shoe making capital of England.

I recently bought a pair of Crown Northampton's Overstone Derby. I'm getting anxious in what RA has to say about them.

I do like my Crown Northamptons but if RA criticizes them in any way I will throw them out the window.

Thanks joe!

It is foam with leather but I agree that it is a little bit of a low quality for a "perfect" shoe.

They still had to make it affordable. Otherwise they would have sold ich for 400-500€ and everyone would complain that it's too expensive for a sneaker. At least this one is affordable.

I mean...i don't think adding a layer of cork would be that much of a problem, add $5-10 to it and thats it, unless cork somehow just got very expensive and im not aware

@@radry100 You do realise they still would not be that expensive? They would have to significantly mark up the price to even get to the 500 dollar mark. The cost of materials to make that happen is pretty damn cheap.

Given the construction, why do you think a cork insole would be better?

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@@user-ny3mj4nf3s +50

yessss

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These boots retail from $1000 and upwards. Some say they are cemented, some say they are blake stitched.

Did you like your v2?

@@somerandomperson8282 i did, yeah

Have you seen the crown Northampton videos? Crazy expensive but many leather selections. Thursday makes a brown leather sneaker too.

Exactly.

Half true, you can't say there's a perfect leather. Both can be made into sneakers like the colours other than white in this case. The leather upper is so thin that veg tan or chrome tan will work. The main difference is the cost of time to tan, patina and colouring options. Chrome tan can be vibrantly coloured but veg tan will be more difficult to colour and have a "natural looking" patina. The SF community couldn't care less about the method of tanning, only on how well the shoes are made. EDIT: Puncture resistance has mainly been solved with leather counters and steel toes. Waterproofing has been solved with varieties of hydrophobic compounds. *The method of tanning does not matter apart from the appearance you want in a pair of sneakers. The level of craftsmanship matters more.* The same cannot be said for boots. I have pairs of Vibergs and Edward Greens (chrome and veg) and it really doesn't matter at all if it's chrome, or veg tan but how it's been crafted instead.

I think the main issues with shoe creases is expecting any leather not to crease immediately after wearing them.

Except cordovan 🤤🤤🤤

Rose Anvil the fabric backing on this leather might actually make the problem worse as well.

I have been so busy getting ready to move I haven’t even thought about it ha ha

Yeah, that's logic. But I just wanted to say I love your video's and they got me interested in leatherworking and in the materials and techniques that are used when making shoes, plus you are always really clear, confident and fun in your video's which is great to watch.

Thank you I appreciate it!

I'm all for this one. I have a pair of Thursdays Rouge's.

As far as they knew it was a full veg tan and the tannery still calls it a veg tan so they weren’t purposely misleading people. Also they are a super small team and it can take a few days to get to get a site updated especially on the weekend. Cut them a little slack they are really good dudes.

The guys behind the company aren't that knowledgeable about the technical details of the products and sometimes, things get further lost in translation between them and the makers they engage to make their products.

but you keep coming back just in case :-)

Ha ha awesome

Very curious to see what Greats have inside, although they don’t use Margom soles anymore

Thanks Steve. Please join us on the forum. We think we will hit it perfect with the v2 as long as we remain focussed.

@@Roh2274 I really hope you do. Who doesn't love owning perfection.

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