I think that Tenet’s failure was that: the lack of clarity. It was way too complex.

​@@LautaroTessiactually, that's the beauty of Tenet that it's so complex to understand.

hmm yeah that was kinda intentional

I totally agree. Movies like Tenet and Interstellar have really awesome sequences but they're much sloppier overall.

@@ZacJfilm however those two movies are even intended to be different. And they are exactly what they are meant to be, so they are both not worse than Inception (I'm writing this because some just don't know this)

@@compactreview I know they were meant to be different but I think specifically like he said above Inception is much tighter.

The Prestige?

@@irinale679 Maybe I need to give it a rewatch but the prestige really didn't do it for me.

that sounds awesome, I'll have to find that and give it a read.

@@ZacJfilm yeah, highly recommend! Also that wisecrack video (title something like “philosophy of inception”) is very worth a watch. And I didn’t specify before but great edit, btw!

Do you have a link for that interpretation?

​@@ChristopherCopeland Are you talking about "Brilliant deception of Inception" by Wisecrack?

I'm glad it was insightful!

Thanks man!

@@ZacJfilm No Problem! I made sure to subscribe, hope to see some more interesting movie related videos from you soon!

​@@DeadSpacedOut Me too! I also subscribed.

@@prashantkumar4217 Nice!

I think Interstellar was his most emotional

@@randomguy2926 I agree. THE PRESTIGE and Inception has had also very emotional moments

No

@@jangdi. interesting

I'll be honest, it took me a second to follow this haha. I would put Nolan and Spielberg around the same level but that's just me

Repent! This is a seriously great movie.

@@Bozothcow My kids have been telling me that for years!!

Inception was the first ever movie I saw in a cinema. I went in with no expectations, no previous information about the movie, I don't even remember if any actors were on the poster. Plus the title was translated in my tongue and translated, it sounded something like "Beginnings" (which is I suppose similar to inception?) so I bought a bucket of kfc wings and went in. I think I saw it 3d, as well. That was also my first Cillian Murphy and Tom Hardy movie I remember!

@@Kairac112 Well, what did you think? Did you like it?

@@caroljohnson5724 mind = blown. Never expected that ending, I remember the shock factor but not the ending itself.

I watched The Gray Man and Morbius last year and they both had scenes that were totally incomprehensible.

@@ZacJfilm ah yes Morbius...I think I have blanked that from my mind lol. Grey Man I don't think I got lost with it, but agree wasn't a good film

Dude why the passive aggressiveness. Keep it constructive so the feedback is helpful. No need to attack a person trying to put their opinions out into the world and share it with us.

haha just trying different things out

That’s interesting. Do you have any examples I could go watch?

@@ZacJfilm I didn't want to get even longer and more obsessive than I already am, but since you asked: In Batman Begins, when Gordon enters Arkham Asylum and Batman grabs him and takes him to Rachel, that sequence of events feels like several shots were skipped. It cuts from Batman grabbing Gordon straight to Gordon hovering over Rachel, assessing her situation. In the Dark Knight Rises, the scene where a cop shoots Batman's electric disruptor gun, you never actually see it get shot. It cuts from Batman using it to other characters running around to Batman looking down at the hole in it. It's implied that the young cop shot it, but it's just not clear, certainly not clear enough for the attempt at humor in the moment to land. You hear a gun shot among many other gun shots, and then Batman is looking down at his damaged disruptor. In Tenet, Neil's anonymous death is depicted as a series of random, unclear shots. the reverse sequence of events leading to his death is just unclear, even after several rewatches, where you know who it is and basically what happened. But key pieces of information, like the moment he gets shot, don't come across on film. It's messy. Nolan favors a very naturalistic style of shooting, where the camera seems to find the story almost by accident, rather than feeling like the story is deliberately framed for the camera. But I suspect that kind of naturalism makes clear storytelling even harder than if everything was carefully lit, framed, and documented, Michael Bay style. So perhaps these little moments where the camera has missed the story are occasionally going to happen, especially if going back and reshooting to get them would take the film over-budget. I've seen youtube commentors talk about the evolution of Nolan's camera style, where the early films are shot in a very rough and ready way, and only when he started using IMAX cameras was he forced to compose shots in more traditional ways. I think it was Patrick Willems who pointed out how much better his cinematography got after Dark Knight. Sometimes, the messy camera is a little too conspicuous, a little too self-aware. But I think the messy camera of his earlier films was his attempt to capture his extremely realistic unreality. That's kind of the point of Nolan films. They're supposed to look like the real world, almost like a documentary. It's only after you've absorbed the whole thing that you realize something was strange from the beginning.

@@rottensquid oh dang, I actually do know the moments that you're talking about! The one in batman begins especially did always feel really jarring to me

@@ZacJfilm Yeah, I think it's just a matter of they just didn't nail it on the day, and it would be too expensive to go back and reshoot it. They obviously had something, but I think instead of using any of the messy takes they had, they just lived without it. Batman Begins really struggled trying to make the impossible dynamics of Batman work, especially in such a hyper-real movie. And of course, the immobilizing bat suit they inherited from the Burton era didn't help. So they stuck with those quick, messy cuts so you can't really see how contrived it looks having him hang upside down, stuff like that. I mean, how does Batman hang upside down without his cape just hanging below him, getting in the way? In the comics, it's not a problem, because the cape does whatever the artist wants it to. But in live-action, they have to figure something out for real, that completely take you out of the story.

... idk who that is

@@ZacJfilm I know it’s just funny he’s part of a KZfaq channel and he and some of his other coworkers made a podcast talking about movies so it was just a funny coincidence that you sounded like him and also talked about movies.

Oh I love Paprika

Stolen? Satoshi Kon would chuckle

Have you even seen both movies? Just because they involve dream manipulation doesn't make them the same. With your logic, Kon stole from Leguin, who stole from Zelazny, etc. etc.

I would be really interested to see a movie written by someone else and directed by Nolan. That being said I'd be curious to see the reverse as well.

@@ZacJfilm He really needs help with his writing.

I can see what you're saying but I don't think every movie is trying to be nuanced, sometimes they're just trying to be fun. Yes, Nolan can have a ton of exposition in his films but that's because he wants to cater to a large audience and it's his ability to cater to a large audience that allows him to make super expensive original films. And while they're not perfect I'm glad someone is doing it.

I still like elements of tenet but it definitely less clear.

@@ZacJfilm The core idea is amazing but it was almost impossible to clearly make a film around it. I have the feeling it's one of those moment where Nolan first had the concept in mind and then try to write a story around it and not the opposite.

Hmm yeah that may have been deliberate.

So to be honest I was really just talking about Inception. I do think he's a good director but in hindsight I may have made Nolan sound a little too cool haha.

@@Swolejohll i have. There are greater directors who have played with non linear timelines and great storytelling

Dark knight trilogy, Inception, Interstellar, Dunkirk? that's half his movies and they are all amazing, movies like tenet are also good.

That can only ruin it if you believe that’s what dreaming is

@@LacoSinfonia Oh not just dreaming. Theres healing involved. even some level of sinister manipulation. Which is why cia got a report in hand. it all about astral projections and the espn . But yeah, I see your point.