I'm pretty sure that Hoyte Van Hoytema watched countless movies with subtitles, and I'm not referring to english-language cinema, but to spanish, french, russian, italian, japanese etc. And he didn't mind the subtitles. I'm sure he doesn't think that it detracts from cinematography. He certainly doesn't think it "ruins" his work. As a cinematographer and cinephile who learned English and discovered hundreds of films from around the world thanks to subtitles, your ignorance and american-centricism are simply infuriating. I pity your ignorance and lack of curiosity about global cinema. And it's concerning that you can't maintain attention on both things. 'Once you overcome the one-inch tall barrier of subtitles, you will be introduced to so many more amazing films' - Bong Joon-ho
@ZacJfilm3 ай бұрын
haha I literally say that quote in the video and say that this doesn't apply to watching movies in a foreign language. Did you ever watch the video?
@samuelguce4 ай бұрын
Nice work - thanks for the breakdown - haven’t seen this film but will watch now
@saltykarlos53164 ай бұрын
Greetings from Denmark, really enjoyed an american viewpoint on this great movie :) great vid
@ZacJfilm4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Chriz1324 ай бұрын
I didn't really enjoy this movie, but maybe I just didn't get it. I think there were some avoidable troubles for them, and there was also a very dystopian view of the danish school system that isn't too accurate
@ZacJfilm4 ай бұрын
I mean maybe haha. I didn't walk away from this film judging the Danish School system. I think you're missing the forest for the trees.
@Chriz1324 ай бұрын
Nah I know what you mean. Just as a dane it made the whole movie seem quite dystopian for no reason@@ZacJfilm
@Chriz1324 ай бұрын
Not for no reason, but yeah
@njdarda4 ай бұрын
Mads Mikkelsen is always fantastic. I need to watch this to see him not being a bad guy for once.
@healthyhomespestcontrol4 ай бұрын
Same here.
@Joshcoshbagosh4 ай бұрын
I remember reading this part in the book and immediately thinking how great of a movie scene it could be.
@TheSingularitarian4 ай бұрын
This is absolutely the pivotal moment in the first film. Paul's exposure to spice, Leto's effort to rescue his people at the expense of the spice thereby earning the respect of Kines, first glimpse of Shai-Hulud...
@watchyawant4 ай бұрын
Very good breakdown and it bodes well with what Vileneuve himself says about his work: telling a one thousand word story in a 10 seconds shot. Sorry, but have to say this: you look like the lovechild of John Travolta and Chris Pine 😂
@ZacJfilm4 ай бұрын
don't apologize. I've heard much worse
@adreus47594 ай бұрын
Dennis is just one of the most talented directors of our time. Maybea he‘s the most talented. Going to be a new Kubrick, Coppola, Leone, Scorcee, Scott… you name‘em!
@vedasiva6954 ай бұрын
the end credits
@ZacJfilm4 ай бұрын
I feel like you’re making fun of me but I don’t get it haha
@vedasiva6954 ай бұрын
@@ZacJfilm the best schene in Dune for me is the end credits.
@Bozothcow4 ай бұрын
As a fan of Homeworld, I simply must appreciate the vehicle design in this movie :)
@cassandrahoward464 ай бұрын
This scene was definitely one that stuck with me. The pacing was terrifying, but I hadn't really realized how many other things were at work here.
@andrewcapon42354 ай бұрын
nice vid bro :) I thought your points were really good, thanks for sharing :)
@zacharyjohnson9294 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@okreylos4 ай бұрын
The way how this movie displays scale is next-level. When it shows something big, there is always something else in the shot whose size we already know (people, ...), or whose size has been established previously against something else. Like the progression from people -> Atreides frigate -> Spacing Guild Heighliner, showing how mind-bogglingly enormous those last things are.
@carljoe4 ай бұрын
Totally agree. The shadow of the Atreides ships arriving on Arrakis against the mass of tiny people was awe inspiring.
@aloisflynn20035 ай бұрын
Have a good day ❤
@jennifer32375 ай бұрын
I’ve got the first two movies and have preordered wonka but in my opinion I only like the 1971 version due to the clips that I’ve seen on KZfaq
@machiel58885 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video. Asteroid City is my favorite film ever and I love to hear people talk about it
@H0NJ5 ай бұрын
Could we, then, extrapolate that these characters, in trying to make sense of the play and their respective roles in it, represent each of us trying to make sense of the ambiguities, plot holes and events of our lives?
@ZacJfilm5 ай бұрын
I actually cut a part of the video out where I made that same comparison. Self evaluation and public performance aren’t exclusive to actors.
@unclassedmedia5 ай бұрын
this rings true to me, I got the sense that by having levels of alienation occuring in the film it engaged with my own layers of alienation about the film, like in one sense I was enjoying the story of the play and the actors level and the filmakers level but also beyond those intended layers there was my level of 'is wes anderson a good director' level and 'what does this mean for my life' level. now added to this is the level of 'was that youtuber right about the film'. I think by having multiple levels in the movie it acheived a blurring of boundary of wes's story and my own story in a fascinating way.
@ZacJfilm5 ай бұрын
Haha you should make a KZfaq video about that
@theorybox30945 ай бұрын
I really love your interpretation and I think you’re right! I love Wes Anderson, but I found myself seeing a lot of the sets, framing, dialogue, etc in the colored parts of the film as just “ok”. Then I started to view the scenes through the lens of how the same thing would look if it was a play on a stage, like Tilda Swinton stepping forward to give a monologue in a spotlight, and everything suddenly clicked. The sets, framing, dialogue, etc aren’t just stiff or “quirky” because it’s Wes Anderson, it’s a representation of the struggle of an actor fighting to find the realism/truth inside of the odd physical spaces they have to work within , on top of the emotional and character work you discussed. Your point also made me come to realize why the scene with Margot Robbie’s character is included. That scene made me wonder why they had cut a scene in the play that held such an important moment/context for Augie’s character. Now I realize the point of that scene is to highlight exactly that - how important that emotional context is not just to the play but to the actor playing Augie understand his character.
@clairecullen55905 ай бұрын
it's also relavent to mention that we don't actually see the full play. there are lots of scenes that are alluded to but not shown on film, which aids your interpretation - it's not about the play at all, because if it was we wouldn't follow Jones Hall as he leaves the stage, we would stick with the high-action scene. great video!
@ldon12355 ай бұрын
Pretentious and lifeless film
@bell56795 ай бұрын
bad take
@zacharyjohnson9295 ай бұрын
Just curious, do you like any of Wes Anderson’s films?
@ldon12355 ай бұрын
@@zacharyjohnson929 yes, I like every one of them except Asteroid City, and I haven’t seen French Dispatch
@zacharyjohnson9295 ай бұрын
Oh that’s so interesting. You probably won’t like the French dispatch either. It’s funny, they’re my two favorite of his films. I find his older films kinda sloppy.
@ldon12355 ай бұрын
@@zacharyjohnson929 i much prefer his older films. They had a lot more heart and felt a lot more human and I think the characters are more memorable as well. Asteroid City just felt like if you asked an AI to make a Wes Anderson movie and to me it felt like it was geared towards the people on tiktok who only like him for the aesthetic
@helenalund73455 ай бұрын
Ok, thank you for explaining this!! The first time I watched asteroid city the black and white scenes were honestly kind of confusing and mostly went over my head-but since watching it a few more times and watching your video I see how it all works together better! Pretty neat!!
@jaredr.sidwell92365 ай бұрын
“I don’t really care what the director meant” this is super interesting, I’ve heard the same thing about classic literature books! Sometimes in classic literature people will point out that the color red represents some overarching theme that’s brought up throughout the book and that creates a beautiful and brilliant metaphor… what’s crazy is that it’s honestly probably just a coincidence, but it doesn’t matter. What people get out of art goes way beyond what the author meant it to be
@machiel58885 ай бұрын
it's not a coincidence in classic literature though.....
@jaredr.sidwell92365 ай бұрын
@@machiel5888 I'm arguing that it's a coincidence is classic literature! At least a lot of people's take aways are very likely not intended by the author. That's how all professional art is. Make something vague or broad and accessible and people can draw so much meaning out of it that the original artist never intended
@starcraftedward7095 ай бұрын
Nice color coded bookcase
@NightsofShadow5 ай бұрын
I'm not a native English speaker? Does that exclude me? Plus, because Sound mixing is bad, I shouldn't understand the dialogue? As others have pointed out, this is so American aka stupid, dude.
@brentdaelman41535 ай бұрын
lmao you are whining about people not liking the same movies as you, you then proceed to shit on marvel and then say preferences are subjective. wtf are you on about
@Charlie_PercysVersion5 ай бұрын
Ive watched it 3 times, it's AMAZING
@taliagmail.com20055 ай бұрын
its a famiy movie
@helenalund73455 ай бұрын
Like this comment if you’re going to go watch Wonka now
@Starwarsfanboy09285 ай бұрын
No way. I also saw Wonka twice in theaters, truly one of those films that you can catch if you are in need of something to cheer up.
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat5 ай бұрын
I agree, Wonka was quite excellent.
@didimunoz246 ай бұрын
I think this movie was an instant Christmas classic, which is crazy if you think about it. It really felt like i was watching a modern Mary Poppins or something like that during the musical scenes and dance numbers. It was old school movie magic in the best of ways. Beautiful film. We all loved it
@taliagmail.com20055 ай бұрын
its not a christmas movie lol it doesnt even focus on christmas one bit its just a movie that was released around christmas time
@didimunoz245 ай бұрын
@taliagmail.com2005 yeah i know that, i mean in the sense that it has all those elements of a Christmas movie that families like to watch during that time of year. It's about hope and giving and a little magic, and it has all those classic movie moments. Those musical numbers had us all singing in the car on the way home and it felt very "Annie" or "Wizard of Oz" in that sense that it felt like an instant classic
@Bozothcow6 ай бұрын
I was just watching another video of yours haha! Good timing.
@dude30996 ай бұрын
I use subtitles,, but with a delay of one and half second.. so if I miss any dialogues, I can read the dialogues
@dude30996 ай бұрын
(That's only possible with downloaded movies)
@daniloalmeidadotcom6 ай бұрын
while I understand your points, the film industry itself simply stopped making movies with clear, theater-like diction as time went on. This progressed to sound design and mixing mudding up dialog and less than stellar actors saying lines as if they're afraid to speak up; directors also being content with such takes is also a thing. So subtitles simply just come with the territory now. While cinema is a visual medium, comprehension of the plot comes through language so while we lose aesthetics for a bit, it's an understandable tradeoff
@BryceEdwardBrown6 ай бұрын
Watching this video on my phone with subtitles... But seriously, I agree with a lot of these points. Ideally, you should be able to watch a movie on mute and still somewhat tell what's going on. If King Lear taught me anything, words means nothing and action is everything.
@caroljohnson57246 ай бұрын
Haha…. I’ve tried that when I’m unable to sleep and too tired to put in my iPods. It’s definitely a different experience. 😂
@1998Cebola6 ай бұрын
If anyone even implies anything other than style BEING substance I instantly disregard eberything they have to say about cinema because they clearly have no clue what cinema even is as an art-form.
@kasurderella_576 ай бұрын
I am the dislike button
@ZacJfilm6 ай бұрын
Haha
@kasurderella_576 ай бұрын
I watch this video with cc on cause english is not my native language
@Gamerboy_Joy6 ай бұрын
The idea that a film's visual style can be ruined by some words on a screen is so incredibly insulting to the style of these films themselves. They're seriously so weak that some words can ruin the whole thing? As if. This isn't a problem with subtitles, it's a problem with you. Most, or many, people don't have trouble maintaining attention on both things.
@bowtiesandbowlerhats6 ай бұрын
quite frankly who gives a shit.
@koekje000056 ай бұрын
Nah, outside of the delivery of punchlines this is more of just a nitpick. The real problem is IMO that sound mixing has gotten worse to the point where people can't hear dialog without blowing out their speakers in the next action scene, there's tons of memes and complaints about it
@isaiah_mdl6 ай бұрын
I understand the point you’re trying to make about how inserting additional visual components into a frame changes film in a way that might compromise a director’s vision. That being said, it’s a little narrow-minded to bash a feature that many people *need* to enjoy film. Watching without subtitles is not an option for some and saying an accessibility feature “ruins the experience” unintentionally plays into both ableist and exclusionary rhetoric. You spoke about “foreign films” as an exception to the rule, but disability wasn’t even given a passing mention. For disabled people (hearing impaired, those with auditory processing issues, etc) to not even be considered in a video discussing a feature standardized for their use is disappointing but not surprising. This is not to mention the various issues others in this comment section brought up nor the fact that subtitles are not the only “visual aspects” that would have the same effect as the one you described. Obviously, you care for film and the film community. Please remember to consider members in this community that might have different needs or experiences before making broad statements such as this.
@yourfavoritebubbe74446 ай бұрын
This is exactly the point I was going to make. I use subtitles because i have audio processing problems. In theaters it’s usually okay because of immersion or whatever but at home it can be really difficult for me to enjoy films or tv without subtitles
@kaydgaming6 ай бұрын
Hearing impaired people need them.
@baconjakin44426 ай бұрын
You’ve done a wonderful job of expressing my somewhat frustrated thoughts on this issue.
@helenalund73456 ай бұрын
Ok also, really good point about all the hard work the movie makers go to just to have it covered up by subtitles! I can imagine that could be rough
@helenalund73456 ай бұрын
This is a neat perspective! (And for those wondering, I’m pretty sure this argument doesn’t apply to people with hearing impairments or who speak another language.) but for those who watch with subtitles in order to make sure they don’t miss anything (myself included) this seems like a really cool way to dive in and engage more with the movies we watch! Excited to try it