This Is What Saved Ten Hag's Job! | Laurie Whitwell EXCLUSIVE

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Laurie Whitwell - Manchester United Correspondent for The Athletic - joins us on the Paddock Podcast after his recent ground-breaking article diving into player and staff tensions, football principles and the future. Also join Jay Motty and Joe Smith for this exciting interview!
Laurie's article: www.nytimes.com/athletic/5549...
0:00 - Video Start
1:20 - Player Struggles
8:25 - Transfer Strategy
10:20 - Feel Sorry For Ten Hag?
12:10 - New Assistant Manager?
18:25 - Any Article Push Back?
22:15 - Jacob Steinberg
22:16 - Jadon Sancho
27:00 - Antony
33:30 - Tactics
37:10 - INEOS Patience
46:53 - Branthwaite/Yoro
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@FullTimeDevils 8 күн бұрын

Like this comment if you'd like to see Laurie on the channel more!

@EKensai 8 күн бұрын

Great interview 👍 thanks for getting Laurie and re my super chat incase anyone wondered if I was throwing shade at him not in particular but I do feel like there's been a couple of mentions of ETH and MVDG and no follow up on Steve or Darren being a big part of the setup and also very accessible for the playing squad, I mean Steve gets mentions as interim manager 😂 so obviously the players like him and find him approachable so it's a bit daft really in my opinion.

@nigelnarayan5828 8 күн бұрын

Yes, he should be on more. Amazing person (from what I can tell), an amazing journalist, and a terrible swimmer :D. Read his piece on The Athletic before watching this and thoroughly enjoyed it.

@anirudh_cr 8 күн бұрын

Top content

@Peter-nc3zk 8 күн бұрын

Andy Mitten too!

@billbaggiotmua372 8 күн бұрын

Casemiro & Varane might of felt p!**ed off, but didn't united cushion that by tripling their wages that they were on at Madrid? PLUS Their agents should have done well by them by telling them United have a poor record in recent years with high value players!

@mohammadabdulrahman7594 8 күн бұрын

People, or manutd fans to be specific, should come to terms with how elite your content is. By far the best fan channel, you genuinely care about the club and the fans. Great Job Lads.

@FullTimeDevils 8 күн бұрын

Thank you :)

@jessetaylor4357 8 күн бұрын

100 percent the best in the business 💯💯💯

@theoraexplora 8 күн бұрын

Close second is Sam Peoples

@richardlomax5380 8 күн бұрын

Agreed and I'm a Liverpool fan

@marquesc9505 8 күн бұрын

Anytime I can I recommend Stretford Paddock to anyone I do it! World Class.

@cnvdh3514 8 күн бұрын

Jacob Steinberg deserves all the backlash he has got and is getting. It's not only just the ETH BS story but also having a go at Mainoo for Rice being sh*t is inexcusable. Long may it continue that the fanbase stand up for our players

@d.b.cooper1 8 күн бұрын

Yep, he's clearly been on a power trip of late. He knew exactly what he was doing. Actions have conquences. Doesn't particularly seem like a nice chap either. Part of me wants Mainoo to stay on the bench so he isn't vilified when the inevitable happens.

@chrism6315 8 күн бұрын

Re JS. People make mistakes, it happens. It's how you deal with making the mistake that matters just as, if not more than making the mistake in the first place. He failed on all counts

@dairefinnie1533 8 күн бұрын

Eh? The club have openly admitted they were talking to multiple managers to take over. Steinberg was correct..it was only fan backlash that changed it.

@daydreamer83 8 күн бұрын

Yeah, at the risk of getting too parasocial, slightly disappointing that Laurie is so effusive about his character, calls him a good mate etc instead of just standard professional courtesies. JS has made some incredibly bad faith comments, both football related and otherwise, including smearing people on social media (public and private figures), using lowest forms of identity politics, and showing contempt for Palestinians amongst other things.

@d.b.cooper1 8 күн бұрын

@@daydreamer83 The industry is still very an old school boys club. Albeit it consists of lads with skin fades & lack of socks with trousers above the ankles. JS seems unhinged, sad we now live in a world where people being exposed on social media no longer has any impact. Particularly surprised that he works with the Guardian. Ultimatley there's clear double standards re what constitutes action & what is swept under the rug in the industry. I almost feel like he's deliebrtey sought attention with his wild footballing takes/articles for a guy who was previously just a London reporter known to Chelsea fans. Some folk get off on the victim mentality, just sad he's dragging managers & teenage kids along with him.

@hughmcneillie1032 8 күн бұрын

We wanted discipline from our manager and when we get it the players aren't happy. No sympathy for them. They are paid more than most other teams and haven't performed consistently enough. Time they looked in the mirror.

@preetjakhu1752 8 күн бұрын

Absolutely 110% correct

@markbourke3267 8 күн бұрын

The quality of the debate initiated on this channel is second to none. The panel know their footie. They keep the passion to one side and get to the key issues and decisions made by those in power at United. Zero ego's unlike other fan chanels just honesty! Thank you all!👏👏👏👏👏

@davidgriffith1552 8 күн бұрын

Joe is an excellent interviewer. I’m not sure what he sees in his long term future (maybe this is it?), but he could have a career in this kind of content on a broader platform. One of the things that makes this channel mint is the different kinds of presenter expertise. Jay, Joe, Ste, (Ethan), and YES EVEN ADAM (and the others I’m forgetting) all have real talent, just different niches they fill/serve.

@philmccavity3854 8 күн бұрын

@@davidgriffith1552 I don't get the hate for Adam. But also agree re: Joe. Has great comedic timing too. Joe and Jay are brilliant entertainment

@davidgriffith1552 8 күн бұрын

@@philmccavity3854 the hate for Adam almost certainly comes from newer subs to the channel who just don’t know the history or his personality lol

@philmccavity3854 8 күн бұрын

@@davidgriffith1552 100%. Been a fan of Adam's ince FTD. Does be hilarious when all 4 get on the podcast. Jay and Motty for the win though. I find Howson gets a lot of stick but is abaolutely hilarious when he goes off on one. Plus his personal channel is brilliant too. Loads of content for us United fans

@musician4776 8 күн бұрын

I love Adam but can’t watch on that other thing he does with that absolute spanner of a city fan. Maybe people have seen him there first?

@akshaydwarka7 8 күн бұрын

The Athletic are the true Tier 1 reporters!! Top interview with Laurie

@EKensai 8 күн бұрын

I dunno man there's some gash reporting on there too.

@theoraexplora 8 күн бұрын

@@EKensaiI'd love for you to name 1

@EKensai 8 күн бұрын

@theoraexplora name what? I didn't say there's some gash journalists I said there's some gash reporting. Not specifically attached to anyone. The amount of articles about normal buisness operations re INEOS ownership like people being told they need to return to work etc and leaked emails etc it's just poor reporting. Then there's the multiple articles about the same thing I.e. Berrada steal from City is reported for 3 weeks with 80 percent of the article referring to previous articles it's not great. Laurie, David and Carl are fantastic and of course Andy.

@aidanmagill6769 8 күн бұрын

Gone downhill a bit since the NYT buyout tbf.

@canadaengland 8 күн бұрын

No…they aren’t. They utter hacks just like the rest of the UK media

@aaronwilliamgeorgemurphy1063 8 күн бұрын

Hearing this only shows that ETH is the right man. He clearly has come into an impossible positon, pep, ancelloti, klopp, even SAF would have failed in this set up, the fact ETH has still managed to get 2 trophies in the bag shows he deserves the opportunity to work in a proper structre.

@Sanctified57 8 күн бұрын

Absolutely. 100% agree

@refigee8752 8 күн бұрын

Have to say, stretford paddock is quickly becoming my favorite yt fan channel. Great content guys.

@senyongaeric1948 8 күн бұрын

Does anyone remember Mark Ogden reporting that Man Utd had approached Gary O'Neil to be part of the coaching staff... you wouldnt see Laurie coming up with such nonsense. Flowers to Laurie and his mates at the Athletic

@CharlesDarkson 8 күн бұрын

Ogden is a two faced snake.

@crystallopez3188 8 күн бұрын

All I need to know about Mark is he works for ESPN.

@StrettyEndShooter 8 күн бұрын

Oggie is a football dunce. Simple.

@74Cheshire 8 күн бұрын

Joe on Casemiro - "Ten Hag signed him". More like he desperately needed a proven DM and he didn't get his first choice and was told he could have Casemiro. This culture of calling a player one of a manager's signings just because they come in while they are manager is just nuts. ETH had a threadbare squad with massive gaps in multiple positions - He'll take the best player those who actually make the deals can get him to plug those holes. That doesn't mean ETH ever said "Go get me Casemiro" - If anything, it seemed to be common knowledge he wanted De Jong more than ANYONE, and didn't get him.

@akeemguy7331 7 күн бұрын

I would agree with that if there wasnt reports that ten ahg wanted both... [Fabrizio Romano] Erik ten Hag confirms he wanted Frenkie de Jong to join United in 2022: „Yes, it would have been de Jong and Casemiro playing and complementing each other“. „But in the last decade and in this period, we couldn’t always get the players we wanted. You have to accept that“.

@userguide222 8 күн бұрын

Whitwell deserves immense credit for revealing the truths behind the scenes. More please!!

@raph2295 8 күн бұрын

Laurie is the best journalist. Brings balance and fairness to the equation. Although I may have disagreed with the section of his article suggest Ten hag wants a high line, I can still recognize how great a journalist he is. Very well sourced. Up the Paddock and up the Whitwell

@duffmid 8 күн бұрын

Don't see how Casemiro can stay this summer after this has come out. (Not that he should've stayed anyway after the way he was this season)

@Ace-wp7ld 8 күн бұрын

I agree not listening and following instructions given by the coaching staff is not okay no matter who you are.

@brian8066 8 күн бұрын

sancho tried at Dortmund to have a go at Ten Hag, yet Sancho at United as proved by his performance at Dortmund that he never try's, because he thinks he does not have to try now he is at United.

@Mannyman348 8 күн бұрын

Great videos lads - only slight improvement is the time Joe drifts off into a tangent when asking a question needs reducing by about 90% 😅

@sureshsandhu9563 8 күн бұрын

Brilliant interview ! Kudos to both Laurie and the Paddock for their commitment to non -sensationalism and measured, nuanced and illuminating content!

@notfirstyourlast 8 күн бұрын

The first question should be...."Can you tell me a little bit about your source? Is it secondary or primary information? "

@noblesavvy7803 8 күн бұрын

it's been a recurring thing for United even during Fergusons era. Ruud wanted more quality in the squad - he got shipped out. Rooney voiced it out, I guess that's the same case with Pogba, Casemiro and Varane. When will United ever learn? All the great players in 90s and 00s and United only managed to get a few of them.

@Chighandwide 8 күн бұрын

Fred next to cassy made a diff, legs

@sivakumar-mh6cp 8 күн бұрын

As always, phenomenal video and amazing insights from Laurie. I have been an Athletic subscriber for 4 years now and i have been privy to fantastic content. Only wish Ste was there to make this a 11/10 video. Great job lads!

@bozboz8601 8 күн бұрын

ETH lucky to keep his job as 8th for me is unacceptable but Southgate links made me feel physically sick.

@LawDog88 8 күн бұрын

This is the content we come here for….good job boys, from the USA!!!!

@ahmarbaig 8 күн бұрын

Always great to hear to Laurie! Top content 👌🏻

@Gistreel149 8 күн бұрын

Some times I wonder if this two guys ever get angry in real life… always with a smile on their faces. Big ups guys ❤ Keep giving us the best content

@prestozer 8 күн бұрын

I think Ronaldo's influence, the three would for obvious reasons be on the same wavelength and definitely fuming how ETH treated Ronaldo. If he didn't resonate with the manager's style it is safe to extrapolate the same feelings to the two

@cyeamaculture8486 8 күн бұрын

Brilliant content..so informative 😁

@joakim1600 8 күн бұрын

Great piece by Laurie whitwell and a great interview. Very interesting!

@connylidstrom5427 8 күн бұрын

Very good episode and a fantastic article.

@JK_360_ 8 күн бұрын

Funny how some of the OMG topics people talked about after reading the article, like varane and casemiro talking about what its like under Carlo, the PR situation, wanting a striker a year ago, Laurie actually talks about it now like they're not that big of a deal. That's the problem with taking things as 100% serious from an article. People saw the ETH wanted a striker a year ago comment as him being angry with the club, yet here Laurie talks about it in a joking, off the cuff comment, nothing like how serious people were taking it from the article.

@notfirstyourlast 8 күн бұрын

Even this content can't be taken as gospel...how on earth would a reporter know so much? He is just making assumptions and guessing on 95% of things.

@JK_360_ 8 күн бұрын

@@notfirstyourlast one person may walk into the dressing room at a certain time of day, hear some convos and think it's toxic, a different person could walk in the next day and think it's a pleasant environment. If people ever listen to Rio or other United legends, they all say there were mad arguments at the training ground, I'm sure if one 'source' walked in on one of those days, that source would say the United dressing room is toxic.

@notfirstyourlast 8 күн бұрын

@JK_360_ This guy said, "I think " 30 times. He's on paternity leave...I rest my case. Maybe 1% truth, the rest guesstimations.

@akeemguy7331 7 күн бұрын

As a fanbase.. We blow EVERYTHING out or proportion.. Could be because of the number of fans and so many people talking it makes it seem bigger than they actually are..

@rascalbootleg 8 күн бұрын

Great podcast! I think Joe needs to shorten his questions and let Laurie speak more though!

@jackdavies1079 8 күн бұрын

Brilliant interview lads!

@mesoanarchy 8 күн бұрын

No one mentioned the time ten Hag gave Sancho off -- and why??? And why Sancho and ten Hag were all smiles and seemed really good with each other when Sancho returned???

@celtshaun1427 8 күн бұрын

Mental Health would be a private issue that would not be divulged, Only Sancho could confirm or deny, It's not someting that ETH or the club could divulge. This is my take on the issue and may not be true as it's never been confirmed categorically but IMO would be the scenario that fits.

@d.b.cooper1 8 күн бұрын

err cause its old old news now, and like the above says, even if journos knew it's a more delicate mental health issue. Had close family members pass away around that time too hence journos avoid it, privacy.

@mesoanarchy 8 күн бұрын

@@d.b.cooper1 - What part of everything discussed re: Sancho at United is old news don’t you get???

@mesoanarchy 8 күн бұрын

@@celtshaun1427 - If true, I get that. But. Journos today rarely mention it as they speculate on why there was a rift... just as they don't mention Sancho was chuffed because he was promised the #7 after CR7 left, only to have Joel Glazer give it to --- Mason Mount so he could sell more merch! Other than a couple of early reports, it's never again been mentioned. Instead we get, well, Sancho wanted to play on the left. Huh?... as if Rashford didn't play there before ten Hag got to United and Sancho was just signed last season. We get, well, Sancho didn't like how ten Hag treated him. But ten Hag DID allow Sancho to take time off for what, around 6 weeks. And... according to "reports" he spent ALL that time in the Netherlands --- training (he was photographed there shortly after he arrived). Now, when was he grieving???

@mesoanarchy 8 күн бұрын

@@d.b.cooper1 - Sooooo, you really did survive the plane jump!!! What about the cash??? 😉

@brianroads3694 8 күн бұрын

This was a really good interview 😊

@kingtchala6832 8 күн бұрын

I know we had injuries this season and I know it was a very brief example in a very complex discussion. However, if Manchester United cannot rest Casimero and Varane against Luton, that shows how far we’ve fallen 😔

@rishirajbose2444 8 күн бұрын

Maybe but it also shows how competitive the league has become. The reason city win every year is not because they have the best 11 but because they have enough replacements when their 11 are out to beat the likes of Luton

@kingtchala6832 8 күн бұрын

@@rishirajbose2444 I’m more than happy to look ahead, draw a line under the 1st two seasons. However, let’s not act that we were exceptional during Ten Hags first season, with his strongest 11 available for most of it. We finished 3rd based on a strong defence. Going forward, our goals for column was low once again and had Rashford not had the season of his life, where would we have been. We struggled against Luton, Sheffield United, heck we struggled against Coventry. Whilst you’re correct about City, for the transfer fees and wages we pay, I think we should expect better.

@akeemguy7331 7 күн бұрын

I 100% agree with you.. I understand the injuries.. but that's when a manager sets up the team dificult to beat.. We were wide open all season until the final games..

@sacred1827 8 күн бұрын

brilliant brilliant video lads

@adamwillms14987 8 күн бұрын

Can someone ask people like this with regards to FFP, owners are allowed to invest so much each season to subsidise the profit / loss, which the Glazers have never done.

@EKensai 8 күн бұрын

What is your question ? Do a super chat when there's next a live show.

@pleopod 8 күн бұрын

My only concern when ETH got the job was personality, especially given the absolute state of United. There was always going to be some clashes. However I’m delighted he’s staying. Next season will be very interesting and hopefully we are moving away from a time where the most appropriate phrase to describe the club is “mistakes were made”.

@amandeepsharma89 8 күн бұрын

its crazy how paddock gets just around 1-2K likes on amazing videos like this and other podcasts which are utter rubbish get 10-20k likes

@itsjawzz 8 күн бұрын

Been waiting for this one, good to see Laurie back on. Looking good mr. Whitwell.

@anthoninginy5741 2 күн бұрын

subbed great work

@ladyinred8190 8 күн бұрын

Top content lads 👍👍

@TiagobritoBrito 8 күн бұрын

If true about the Sancho situation, Sancho must be sold, period , Garnacho proved he follows instructions he’s played LW, RW, yet Jadon played RW at Dortmund. We got played transfer fee wise on Antony due to a player who refused to do his job, embarrassing, thanks for the interesting podcast again.

@secretdanjjak8103 8 күн бұрын

Best talk so far

@leco4639 8 күн бұрын

ETH literally told GNev he wanted Casemiro and FDJ together to compliment each other, rather than Casemiro instead. Was ETH lying in that interview?

@kse7en496 8 күн бұрын

Buddy ETH is a sycho 😂. Don't believe what he says. But there's a meaning to his madness.

@akeemguy7331 7 күн бұрын

All I know is... Somebody lying 😂

@leco4639 7 күн бұрын

@@akeemguy7331 indeed!

@manbearpiglett-4110 8 күн бұрын

Varane is such a bargain and a genuinely good signing in the post-SAF era. Excelled when he played, big character in the dressing room, granted a lot of injuries, but £34million?? 3 years, 68 appearances, top lad. Now Casemiro....Best player last year, WORST player this year. Such a shame he dropped off and has been so gash. 70million is insane money, can only hope some lads in the desert are keen on his wee fancy eyebrows, bit of cash back would be amazing. Otherwise....what a flop. Hope we can actually shift him and the other deadweight this year, disaster if we end up stuck with them!

@mugishaabbey355 8 күн бұрын

Ofcourse Sancho could have just kept quiet and not escalated the situation. But Ten Hag also needs to lighten up a little bit. this habit of not letting little things go needs to stop. that thing of Garnacho liked a post of him not being happy to be subsitituted next thing EtH is the presser talking bout we talked bout it blah blah. Little things that happen in the heat of the moment , you just let them go

@Mandja1989 8 күн бұрын

I'd listen to each and every one of the Talk Of The Devils crew all day long.

@postlex 8 күн бұрын

I remember Ten Hag saying the plan was Casemiro + De Jong, a complementary tandem.

@akeemguy7331 7 күн бұрын

[Fabrizio Romano] Erik ten Hag confirms he wanted Frenkie de Jong to join United in 2022: „Yes, it would have been de Jong and Casemiro playing and complementing each other“. „But in the last decade and in this period, we couldn’t always get the players we wanted. You have to accept that“.

@Rustylad12 8 күн бұрын

I don't see the whole fuss around looking at other managers. They looked around and came to a sensible conclusion to hold which implies they conducted an unbiased review. Like we've been waiting forever for an administration to actually be prepared for a change and yet we complain when they are out there doing their jobs.

@akeemguy7331 7 күн бұрын

Although I am ETH out.. THem looking at other managers gives me hope.. After we sacked Ole.. we had no plan and end up hiring an interim manager to the actual interim.. Iprefer them looking at options before sacking instead of sacking and then going to look..

@web_alchemist_ 8 күн бұрын

Please some needs to clip 33:00 to 37:00

@Boric78 8 күн бұрын

That night out Edwin piss take of Utd's transfer business - LOL, spat my drink everywhere.

@thedeliciousdelightoflivin4636 8 күн бұрын

There’s a lot of sympathetic support for issues faced by Sancho and Rashford. Yet Antony has been facing huge criminal allegations that could result in imprisonment. This would effect mentality and performance. Yet he gets cut less slack

@b.alexanderjohnstone9774 6 күн бұрын

Anyone else notice Jaden Sancho had lost at least 5 kilo in CL? Nice of him to get fit for Dortmund. 350k a week for a lazy so and so.

@g_od2080 8 күн бұрын

Never heard of that pr person before. There's obviously an issue between them and thr club. And anyone who wud advise ronaldo to do what we did on piers morgan. Well i dont think i need to say

@nickcollins5191 8 күн бұрын

From what I remember reading at the time, I believe the only person who knew Ronaldo was going to do the Piers Morgan interview was his girlfriend/wife. His agent at the time (Mendes) MIGHT have known (I can’t remember for definite). If he did then I know he was against him because not long after they parted ways. Ronaldo was apparently unhappy with him by that point because he felt Mendes wasn’t doing enough to find him a new club but I’m certain I remember reading sometime after that Mendes told him he should never have done the interview and it was kind of the thing that broke the relationship

@Parky_1712 8 күн бұрын

Net spend is a terrible metric to use when it comes to transfers

@murraypaul1984 8 күн бұрын

Joe and Jay with someone who actually knows inside the club and no Howson or McKola. Dreamland stuff lads

@alingard1 8 күн бұрын

This is why I need young players hungry to pull in same direction, with a few older reliable experienced players. Far too many players come through united not giving their all. Sanchez, Sancho, pogba.... All huge salaries and gave nothing

@Chighandwide 8 күн бұрын

Ineos cud have said xmas time if we dont get into champ league we look at our options, no issue with that

@danorr83 8 күн бұрын

Just get Rooney or one of our legends to get back in there as a coach/mentor/coach, winning mentality but still can relate to the players. Someone with status surely. Ten Hag has feel like he’s no. 1 and controls everything so will alienate the bigger personalities. Get the feeling he’s been coaching younger non stars his career previous to United

@jumpa654 7 күн бұрын

Not only casemiro, but eriksen went missing as well. Off field issues such the glazers selling up, and antony, sancho and greenwood did not help at all, really unsettled the club. Add injuries to that, you're going to have a very difficult season. Hopefully, Ten Hag stays, we get some good players in, do some good business in the summer, and we go again next season!

@redouanedjerboua8869 6 күн бұрын

You listen to some of these fan channels and EtH is blameless, he is a top top manager who had everything aainst him. it is like he didnt even manage the team in the last two years, or like he didnt bring Antony, Onana, Mount, Hojland...i just wonder what makes people see this in him. is it Ajax ? Eredivise ?

@markgallagher3173 8 күн бұрын

Someone ask Laurie how diplomatic he thinks Pep Guardiola is. We’ve dropped so low in standards that we’ve become apologists for unruly, overpaid, underperforming players.

@mickeytracey2332 8 күн бұрын

Gowan Laurie ❤

@notfirstyourlast 8 күн бұрын

Big Sam was England manager...does that qualify him as United manager?

@Carrera06GT 8 күн бұрын

Need more Andy, Laurie, and Karl. Need more ALK.

@drewdemersyt8153 8 күн бұрын

Jay “Go on” Motty

@carn5haun343 8 күн бұрын

These same reporters cosy up to players and leak when they are unhappy and the training is too hard etc...

@TezTezTezTezTez 8 күн бұрын

Unfair to say casimiro was ten Hag signing.. he wanted de Jong and an united officials went to Spain and signed him.. not ETH first choice at all

@Christian_Bagger 8 күн бұрын

It’s core at the Man Udt fan to spot fundamental good tendencies from a manager and stick by them. It’s the long haul, not the short run. For the 20% ETH outers, there’s never been a real solution beside getting ETH, why the hell did none of you mention Motta?

@MikeJones-yd9kf 8 күн бұрын

Other managers wanted to have a say in the transfer market saved his job.

@grooveyvuitton Күн бұрын

United Missed Fred’s work rate in midfield this season.. and so did Casimiroi believe

@MrZeroFksGiven 8 күн бұрын

Exposed? I just think that Radcliffe and ineos just want to get it right and keep the fans happy it’s like he said in his interview that he’s learnt the mistakes from previous clubs he’s got or once owned

@Burtization 8 күн бұрын

Joe finally looking like he's made it ❤️

@Parky_1712 8 күн бұрын

That 'high line' stat is extremely disingenuous. For one, it's not even true, Varane AND Martinez didn't even play all the game together, plus it was in front of De Gea who gets a nosebleed if he goes past his penalty spot. And two, the position in comparison to the rest of the league is different because all the other teams are playing higher than they were even 2 years ago. If you've EVER actually watched a Ten Hag team, you would know he doesn't want to play as far back as we have been

@WanderingPropeller 8 күн бұрын

Spot on. And bringing up Ole playing a high line when he was the one who brought in the fridge that is Maguire?

@raph2295 8 күн бұрын

It literally is true. Yes Martinez and Varane didn’t play every game in the first season, but they did play a hell of a lot. And with that being said, we played a deeper line than Everton. Yes de gea is obviously incapable of sweeping, but the point stands that Ole was able to play a high line in spite of that to decent effect and consistently got good results in the premier league. We signed Onana, what’s the excuse now? We STILL play a very deep line with a new goalkeeper. You’re talking nonsense

@raph2295 8 күн бұрын

@@WanderingPropellerYeah and what pal? Maguire and Lindelof played in a high line for 2 consecutive seasons under Solskjaer. Ten hag signed Antony and Amrabat. What’s your point?

@Parky_1712 8 күн бұрын

@raph2295 Let me guess, you got your info from the DevilsDNA tweet?

@raph2295 7 күн бұрын

@@Parky_1712 well he’s a great account, but no, I knew Solskjaer played a high line by erm, watching us. Then we saw Ten hags first season with our frontline sitting on the halfway line, and our defense right in front of the box. I let Ten hag off because off De geas incompetence, but even with Onana, we sit very deep. This is his intent.

@Rustylad12 8 күн бұрын

Did Laurie finally get his coveted haircut mentioned in Talk of the devils? It's impeccable as is

@Nayf-E 8 күн бұрын

Red Laurie, Yellow Laurie...

@Edge81 8 күн бұрын

No excuses

@thebiglebrowski3695 7 күн бұрын

So let me get this straight ... Ten Hag got one of the best DMs in world football. A player who has won more champions leagues than our club. A player who would get into pretty much any team in the league. But because he isn't Frenkie De Jong ... that's a problem? If your style needs one specific player then your style is the fucking problem.

@akeemguy7331 7 күн бұрын

100% ... but it's what ETH and the recruitement team has been doing.. Because if De Jong is so important to the style then why none of the midfielders we signed since are similar to de jong playstyle-wise.. Same for the striker.. We wanted Kane.. couldnt get him but then we buy a striker totally different to Kane.. Even Martinez.. Left footed CBs are important to eth but what would have happened if we got Timber?

@thebiglebrowski3695 7 күн бұрын

@akeemguy7331 Ifs, buts and maybes mate. No team gets every player they want and no player plays exactly like Kane or De Jong. It's just an easy excuse like the injuries.

@akeemguy7331 7 күн бұрын

@@thebiglebrowski3695 what do you mean? there are strikers you can get that drop deep and create chances.. The are midfielders that you can get that dribble and collect the ball off the back four.. Btw.. Im not making excuses.. this is common sense.. I literally agreed with you that the system is trash.. but we could easily get similar players..

@raph2295 6 күн бұрын

Absolutely correct.

@thebiglebrowski3695 6 күн бұрын

@akeemguy7331 I understand that there are different types of players, but we are talking about two unicorns of football. There is nobody who has the same array of skills as Kane. He is a 6'2 striker who can lead a line and finish with the best of all time, but who can also drop deep and play passes along with the best of them. Frenkie is also strange in that he has been deployed as both a defensive and attacking midfielder in his career and excelled at both (while strangely not excelling in the other area whenever he switches). You aren't going to get like for like replacements for those players. Who would you even suggest instead of Hojlund and Casemiro who would fit so much better as replacements? I am glad we agree that the system sucks, though.

@tactical_statician 8 күн бұрын

Put Maguire as a 6 and tell me if he’s capable. Put Mount as a centerback and tell me if he’ll do well. People need to appreciate his effort these last few seasons especially playing in a position he’s not an expert in. He has brought more trophies and winning mentally than other player on this team. Put some respect on his name.

@akeemguy7331 7 күн бұрын

that.. and the fact that Eriksen is probably leaving.. not sure about Amrabat.. We need a midfielder if Casemiro stays.. Why are putting ourselves in a position to sign two..

@garethdeere4822 8 күн бұрын

Utd have bought terribly for 10 years . Spent way over the odds on poor players after poor player's.

@adamdowling1700 8 күн бұрын

It cracks me up that you’ve all changed the way you say Jed’s dead baby to make it sound inoffensive.

@JimmingtongRry 8 күн бұрын

Just answer the questions please 🎉

@JungleUTFR 8 күн бұрын

Lucky escape IMO !! Tuchel ? Seriously

@KailamiMwiinga 8 күн бұрын

Sounded like a Chelsea double agent plan to sabotage us

@jessetaylor4357 8 күн бұрын

Stretford paddock is the best fan channel around imo no debate 💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥

@raihansiddique5210 8 күн бұрын

Laurie doing God's work 🫡

@RockomusiK 6 күн бұрын

I guarantee the only players that are speaking negatively about bad cop bad cop are players like Rashford and then others that are not in ETH's plans. There is a reason ETH is being authoritarian to get rid of the weak culture/players. There is still an issue with players that we need gone, Rashford needs to go.

@emmanueljohnny-moore2250 8 күн бұрын

This squad is rubbish we have so many right footed players mou knew this he has a balanced squad this is what Ten hag is doing because we don’t have for fucks a senior left foot that has been fit last year and we are lacking a prolific left footer greenwood would of easily solved that problem but he is not coming back so we just have to look for someone probably kudas for me

@TheGrimmCommoner 8 күн бұрын

I would like to see Keane as Ten Hag's assistant manager. He would be tough with the board, and he was a good man manager with the players at Sunderland. Combine his man management and experience as an assistant manager at Ireland with Martin O'Neill, and he could be a good fit beside Ten Hag.

@EnshroudedLad 8 күн бұрын

Tough and tougher cannot be a good combination 😬

@TheGrimmCommoner 8 күн бұрын

@@EnshroudedLad Keane is a lot like Fergie (probably why they clashed heads). He's tough when he needs to be and softer when that's the best method. Ten Hag could use him.

@Vivian-he7ou 8 күн бұрын

Handsome laurie😍😍

@frankedward4556 8 күн бұрын

ETH is a lucky guy but needs to Get results.

@74castle 8 күн бұрын

Varane preferred a low block defending the box, couldn’t play high line??? My fucking arse. How about challenging this “journalist” about his so called knowledge and explaining that Varane and Martinez EXCELLED at playing a high line the season before last… Martinez is something of a phenom but Varane was arguably our best defender. Stunned by this and any comment to the contrary

@raph2295 6 күн бұрын

Martinez and Varane never played in a high line under Ten hag. We played the 16th deepest line in 22/23

@Wabsy1 8 күн бұрын

Proper utd chanel no mgb for us no more

@mattye88gaming 8 күн бұрын

Rather de ligt then braithwaite over priced and left footed , especially if ETH loves balance . Have Martinez so is braithwaite sitting behind him

@ACEPodcastNation 8 күн бұрын

I agree de light way better and more suited to ETH way of playing. Only worry is his wages AND his injury issues. There's plenty of good to great centre back options across Europe this summer. For me United should probably look away from De Ligt(injuries) AND Branthwaite(cost & attributes). Only IMO others may disagree. Especially with money being tight there's cheaper options who are arguably better options, certainly better options than JB. If De Ligt didn't have the injury issues he'd be a perfect Varane replacement in fairness.

@grahamrichardson7851 8 күн бұрын

Apparently branthwaite is two footed ! .

@CharlesDarkson 8 күн бұрын

Branthwaite coming in would allow Martinez to cover Left-Back as well given how injury prone Shaw & Malacia are.