This Is Why I Love Early-20th-Century Music...

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Frederick Viner

Frederick Viner

Күн бұрын

Join composer Frederick Viner and pianist Denis Zhdanov‪@DenZhdanovPianist‬ as they offer their perspectives on four different early-20th-century works.
Intro - 0:00
1) Scriabin: 'Desir', Op. 57 no. 1 - 0:49
Denis - 1:20
Fred - 3:50
2) Villa-Lobos: 'O Polichinelo' - 5:18
Fred - 5:31
Denis - 6:47
3) Gershwin: Prelude no. 1 - 8:59
Fred - 9:20
Denis - 10:45
4) Ravel: 'Ondine' - 11:54
Fred - 12:39
Denis - 13:46
Outro - 16:25
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Пікірлер: 51
@chainuser1774
@chainuser1774 8 ай бұрын
When I saw the sheet music in the thumbnail I knew it was the cascading section in Ondine right away. That part never fails to blow my mind.
@KobaltBlue680
@KobaltBlue680 7 ай бұрын
Scriabin and ravel will always be my two favorite composers
@FrederickViner
@FrederickViner 7 ай бұрын
Same :)
@terranbricklin
@terranbricklin 8 ай бұрын
Gaspard de la nuit and ravel's sonatine are the most magical things ever, I swear. Debussy was the king of French romance, but ravel just transports you to different worlds.
@dwdei8815
@dwdei8815 7 ай бұрын
I'm currently obsessed with the Valses Nobles et Sentimentales (my favourite piece of music tends to change and it is always the piece I'm working on) - talk about Ravel transporting you to different worlds! The final piece is simply ravishing/haunting/chilling/surprising.... It takes me to a very distant place.
@sebastian-benedictflore
@sebastian-benedictflore 7 ай бұрын
Debussy was a marvellous innovator and composer but Ravel was just one of those elite, master craftsmen of music, like Brahms. Everything is perfect, immaculate, not a thing out of place. I feel like theirs is some of the only "perfect music".
@bethanywakim6175
@bethanywakim6175 8 ай бұрын
The climax of Ondine gives me chills literally every time I hear it (even here when you both were talking over it). Even though by now my brain knows what harmonies are coming next, Ravel somehow manages to take me by surprise with each chord change. Perhaps the most stunning moment in all piano literature. Great selection from probably my favorite era of music. And Denis is right, that leap at the end of the Gershwin prelude is no joke! Congrats to you both on 20k followers, you both deserve it!
@robthequiet
@robthequiet 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering Ondine. It evokes a powerful imagery of rippling water and tentative footsteps for me. The emotionality is so powerful. Now, I am a huge fan of Rachmaninov's Etudes and would love to see some review of some of the passages in these, whichever are your favorites.
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 8 ай бұрын
5:40 Stravinsky also wrote a ballet called Pulcinella!
@JudgeHill
@JudgeHill 8 ай бұрын
One of my favourite eras as well for popular music. The lyrics of the Great American song book are as wonderful, playful and intelligent as the tunes.
@arielwertlen6709
@arielwertlen6709 4 ай бұрын
It’s absolutely apparent that I need to listen to more Ravel, and have done my self a great disservice having not done so yet! There are just so many amazing late romantic Russian composers to discover, it’s hard to ever leave.
@Nycthemeral
@Nycthemeral 8 ай бұрын
Great video, really loved the two perspectives from a pianist and a composer. I sometimes feel like Scriabin's "transition period" is somehow even more interesting than the others, precisely because it showed how his later atonal works were not purely conceptual, but also a very organic development of musical ideas and obsessions that were present in his youth.
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the milestone, to both Denis and Frederick!
@BiggWalrus
@BiggWalrus 8 ай бұрын
Wow, incredible analysis from both perspectives! Very approachable for someone like me with limited knowledge of theory but did not compromise on depth. Just subscribed to Denis, keep up the great work and would love to see more collabs from you guys!
@thenameisgsarci
@thenameisgsarci 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the 20k! 🥳🥳🥳
@thegreenpianist7683
@thegreenpianist7683 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations to both of you! Thoroughly deserved.
@FrederickViner
@FrederickViner 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@margarethansen7480
@margarethansen7480 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic vídeo, both analysis too. Thanks for that, I’ll subscrite 👏👏👏
@niklaslachmann1038
@niklaslachmann1038 8 ай бұрын
The beginning of Desir is giving me Tristan vibes
@FrederickViner
@FrederickViner 8 ай бұрын
Good spot!
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 8 ай бұрын
5:32 gotta come back here all the time
@FrederickViner
@FrederickViner 8 ай бұрын
🤣
@jorgeguimaraes8820
@jorgeguimaraes8820 5 ай бұрын
in the polichinelo, the melody is actually a brazilian children's tune (ciranda cirandinha). Villa liked to do that a lot. Plus I think that he could have drawn inspiration from prokofiev's visions fugitive n14 (feroce), regarding the alternatinc white triads and black clusters. I like this piece, but it doesn't scratch the surface of what villa lobos is capable of btw, polichinelo also means jumping jacks in portuguese, which is suiting giving the "exercise" nature of the piece
@kent.1337
@kent.1337 8 ай бұрын
great vid , i love that piece by villa lobos i always loved rubinsteins version of it he met villa lobos in brazil in the 1920s for a concert
@lelilleolee
@lelilleolee 8 ай бұрын
Could you make a video on florent Schmitt's ombres? He is a lesser known figure in early twentieth century french music which deserves much more attention!
@FrederickViner
@FrederickViner 8 ай бұрын
I don't know Schmitt! Thanks for the recommendation :)
@Klavieralter
@Klavieralter 8 ай бұрын
I would liken early 20th century piano music to the symbolist art movement of the late 19th century. Symbolism can be considered a subcategory to such movements as Jugendstil, Belle Epoque and Fin di Siecle. The symbolist movement was the last gasp in art where representative art was still revered before art started to devolve into exaggerated personalities over actual talent. Early 20th century piano music feels like the last gasp of romanticism before composers strained the ears of listeners with Atonalism and Serialism. The last gasps of beauty...
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 8 ай бұрын
12:06 Ravel's favorite chord
@FrederickViner
@FrederickViner 8 ай бұрын
Well spotted!
@Joseph-mv3rz
@Joseph-mv3rz 8 ай бұрын
Comparing Gaspard de la nuit to Lord of the rings is a great comparison
@bozzigmupp510
@bozzigmupp510 7 ай бұрын
What piece was played in the intro?
@1827641
@1827641 8 ай бұрын
What is the song at the beginning that sounds in 0:30?
@1827641
@1827641 8 ай бұрын
Oh okay, I recognized it, it is Stravinsky's piano version of The firebird
@l.uis162
@l.uis162 8 ай бұрын
stravinsky / agosti: firebird mvmt 1
@SquidKing
@SquidKing 8 ай бұрын
Berg’s Piano Sonata?
@FrederickViner
@FrederickViner 8 ай бұрын
LOVE that piece
@Gravitynaut
@Gravitynaut 8 ай бұрын
no love for Berg's piano sonata op. 1 or Schoenberg's Drei Klavierstucke op. 11?
@FrederickViner
@FrederickViner 8 ай бұрын
Maybe in the next one...I adore Berg's Op 1
@fortunatomartino8549
@fortunatomartino8549 28 күн бұрын
Gershwin is merely popular
@gexahedrop8923
@gexahedrop8923 8 ай бұрын
based Giant steps
@tj3482
@tj3482 8 ай бұрын
"Classical music and jazz are two different islands and rarely intertwine" Aside from the fact that jazz incorporates many harmonic concepts from romanticism and impressionism and were influenced by composers like Chopin, Debussy, Stravinsky and Bartok?
@luciancrosby6331
@luciancrosby6331 7 ай бұрын
where on earth are you getting that from? which of the important early jazz musicians were influenced by any of those composers? they probably had never even listened to their music, let alone be influenced by them. composers like ravel, debussy and stravinsky appropriated harmonic elements from jazz in some of their music, not the other way around
@tj3482
@tj3482 7 ай бұрын
@@luciancrosby6331 Bud Powell, Thelonious Monk, Charlie Parker, Bill Evans, Fats Waller, Art Tatum, Donald Lambert, George Gershwin and Mary Lou Williams were extremely vocal about their classical influences. My question is where are you getting that Debussy appropiated jazz before the genre even existed or was distributed publicly? And Rag time isn't jazz either.
@sebastian-benedictflore
@sebastian-benedictflore 8 ай бұрын
First?
@NotBroihon
@NotBroihon 8 ай бұрын
forsen
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 7 ай бұрын
I thought the Scriabin and the Villa-Lobos awe-inspiring and memorable and the Gershwin and the Ravel only flashy and virtuosic (in different ways), sorry.
@Marklar3
@Marklar3 8 ай бұрын
I disagree with Denis's example of how those tenuto notes could be interpreted (2:22). It seems like he's making decisions about which notes should be longer in a way that would make some of the notes not tenuto. If the notes weren't marked tenuto, his examples of how they might be interpreted would be great. However they are marked tenuto, and I don't feel like either of his examples are tenuto on all 3 notes.
@alphonsokirk8340
@alphonsokirk8340 7 ай бұрын
'Promosm'
@lightningbolt4419
@lightningbolt4419 8 ай бұрын
Terrible video. You never once mentioned Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji
@minsekfau3218
@minsekfau3218 8 ай бұрын
That's great. No need to mention a horrible composer
@dzordzszs
@dzordzszs 8 ай бұрын
There were many great composers he did not mention, otherwise the video would have been hours long
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