This is Why Maintaining the Ford 5.4L 3v Triton Engine is so Important!

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6 жыл бұрын

Come along as we show you just how important maintaining the 5.4L 3v engine is.
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@stevexxx6078
@stevexxx6078 6 жыл бұрын
Brian, At 61 years old and working on gasoline engines since I was 12, I guess I would consider myself an O'l school mechanic. I can fix any motor that has a carb and distributor. However the computer cars of today I try to avoid them all together. To me they are WAY over engineered and complicated for me to work on. All I do is get frustrated with how they were made and how hard they are to wrench. I'm puzzled on what these stupid engineers were thinking. Back in 05 I bought a new F150 5.4 Triton. When it started missing and cutting out around 130k miles I bought a new set of spark plugs and started replacing them. It took me an hour just to replace the #4 cylinder up front and as you know that's the easiest one to do. I got so frustrated that I ended up taking it to a local mechanic to finish up on the other 7. So then at 160k the phaser's went out. I said to myself what in the heck am I going to do? I don't have 3 grand to pay someone to do it so I guess I'll have to do it myself. And then I found you on KZfaq. Thanks to you I was able to do it all myself. I took ALL of your recommendations on the upgraded parts and I want to tell you I'm SO HAPPY with the outcome. It drives and sounds like a brand new truck! I'm so grateful to you and that you are so kind to put out there ALL your expertise and knowledge for us. You are a blessing to guys like me! Thank you SO MUCH for helping me thru the process as THERE WAS NO WAY I couldn't have done it without you my friend. God bless you and your family. Your awesome !!!!!
@littlefishbigpond5769
@littlefishbigpond5769 6 жыл бұрын
Ditto for me, mine had 174K and was dead for an entire year. A month ago I stumbled across this channel and last Saturday my '05 is back on the road!
@GeraltOfRivia99
@GeraltOfRivia99 6 жыл бұрын
@steve thats why you avoid the 3 valve engine they are crap because of the cam phasers and varable cam timing they added to it. 2 valve triton is what to pick for reliablity. 97 and 98 had gasket issues but 99-03 tritons are solid.
@MrOtis909
@MrOtis909 6 жыл бұрын
steve xxx I drive a 65 chevy C20 because I CAN fix it.
@MrErikw26
@MrErikw26 6 жыл бұрын
Linuxx 2v engines spat spark plugs out for a few years. The 3v is reliable with proper maintenance
@GeraltOfRivia99
@GeraltOfRivia99 6 жыл бұрын
@MrErik the 2 valve is the better engine you tighten your spark plugs on the 2v a couple pounds more then the stock rating and you wont shoot out a plug. 3 valve is trouble
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 6 жыл бұрын
The proof is in the maintenance. Good comparison.
@tslater1989
@tslater1989 6 жыл бұрын
Not just intervals, quality of oil and filter, replacement of the pcv, engine flushes etc. I have an expedition with 311k miles on it, still runs good. Small oil leaks but you cant be too picky when you have that many miles.
@johnnyllooddte3415
@johnnyllooddte3415 5 жыл бұрын
no its not
@vernonpitts6630
@vernonpitts6630 5 жыл бұрын
BS, He has another video on why you should NOT follow the Ford maintenance guidelines.
@CF-yc2bm
@CF-yc2bm 4 жыл бұрын
WRONG!!! WRONG. WRONG!!!You could do everything right with this piece of shit engine and still find yourself several thousand dollars in debt fixing it.
@MICLANTECUTLI
@MICLANTECUTLI 3 жыл бұрын
@ CFOS sounds like you have a personal problem with this engine.
@DeadofWinter321
@DeadofWinter321 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you roasted The Car Wizard on his video of him trashing the 5.4L motor. That was so awesome!
@cap8e
@cap8e 3 жыл бұрын
its late but he didn't roast car wizard. if you go by the recommended oil change 5k and oil weight you will have engine issue. It shouldn't be like that. both said you need to do changes religiously at 3k to make the engine last. Most people will go by the manual and have engine failure,,, crap
@jayyyceee8403
@jayyyceee8403 2 жыл бұрын
Well compared to the 2v yeah the 3v sucks
@GR-RadioSouthCarolina
@GR-RadioSouthCarolina 6 жыл бұрын
I have 253000 on my 5.4 3v, all original phasers change oil every 3000 miles, I know I'll change those phasers one day but for now they still going strong
@Joemauma_
@Joemauma_ 6 жыл бұрын
Same here. I'm at 265,500, although I do get a little rattle, but it's had the rattle since I got the truck with 74k on it
@69greger
@69greger 6 жыл бұрын
285000km. Only thing done to motor is spark plugs once. Yes time to do them again but been very good so far
@GR-RadioSouthCarolina
@GR-RadioSouthCarolina 6 жыл бұрын
Greg Dixon regular maintenance and oil changes and these engines will live long
@kameron454ci
@kameron454ci 6 жыл бұрын
377.890 mile on my 01 2V
@GR-RadioSouthCarolina
@GR-RadioSouthCarolina 6 жыл бұрын
SaltLife I use valvoline 5w-20 conventional with the ford motorcraft oil filter 820s.
@everettmish9658
@everettmish9658 6 жыл бұрын
Bought my 97 2V 5.4 Expedition new in 96 and now with over 432k miles. Just changed the head gaskets and replaced the timing chain guides for the first time. The thing was clean as a whistle and cylinder cross hatches we're still like new! These things run forever if you take care of them. I use Mobil 1 (synthetic)10-30 and have always changed the oil every 10k religiously. Amazing longevity!
@GeraltOfRivia99
@GeraltOfRivia99 6 жыл бұрын
nice mileage you got out of it! BUT thats the 2 valve engine you have. in this video hes talking about the 3 valve engine which is not as durable. 2 valve engines are more simple and deffinitley are my choice i avoid the 3 valve engine like the plague. ive been using full synthetic 5-20 on my 2 valve engine it has 330 000 kms on it still sounds great. im thinking of going to 5-30 but i really dont beat on my truck i just store some tools in it.
@jeremylien605
@jeremylien605 5 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing you live in the Midwest or somewhere with nice environmental temps !!!
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 5 жыл бұрын
Never seen a 2v quit unless the owner never checked the oil
@workhard3994
@workhard3994 5 жыл бұрын
Austin Howze you ain't lying those things just keep on going I had one with 200k and pulled it out just cause I wanted more power and put the 4v in which is just as good as the 2v
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 5 жыл бұрын
That's because it's a 2V which Ford should have kept. The 3V is a POS by comparison.
@greggc8088
@greggc8088 6 жыл бұрын
As a guy that loves Fords-paid for my last house working on them, I've learned on thing to cover my butt before doing any repair to the Ford 3V-check the oil pressure at idle. If it's below 25 there's no reason to repair anything until you fix the oil pressure loss. Most of the time a view in the oil pan with the camera shows timing chain guides blocking the strainer. Sometimes it's sludge from lack of maintenance. Most every time the bearings and crank have too much wear allowing oil pressure loss. Glad to hear someone suggest 5W-30. For most North American climates that's all I will run. More cushion on the bearings and allows for longer life. 5W-20 was just for gas mileage. Of course, much thicker than that and variable valve components malfunction and pistons get hot from lack of oil being squirted on them. Love those broken Fords though.
@glasser2819
@glasser2819 4 жыл бұрын
all manufacturers aim to engineer *reliable* slow failures else customers love 'em too much
@A.C.71
@A.C.71 2 жыл бұрын
I was told by a well trusted mechanic to use a product called ats chemical 505 cro to clean the engine. He said it was far better than seafoam or anything else. Also ats chemical 505crf for the fuel system cleaning. He said it has in his experience stopped oil consumption and helps with the exact same things he mentions can go wrong in this video. Has anyone had any experience with these products or have a reason why to not use them ? Also what oil filter do you guys think is best motorcraft/mobile 1/k&n gold ?
@josephdrummond4376
@josephdrummond4376 6 жыл бұрын
Been running 5/30 full synthetic.Change oil 3 times a year religiously. My 2002 f150 has 268,000. Still strong still fun still working good.
@albduke
@albduke 4 жыл бұрын
What brand oil do you use?
@Mdhneo007
@Mdhneo007 4 жыл бұрын
Damn I feel like driving out to Chicago just to have him work on my truck. Thanks for the videos
@grantwickman1474
@grantwickman1474 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos have been a life saver for us 5.4 3v owners. Keep em coming!
@Elver_Galarga_jugo
@Elver_Galarga_jugo 6 жыл бұрын
Hearing all this makes me love my 2V 5.4 even more. I know the 3Vs can be really good engines but I'd hate to lose an engine because I'm stressed out and forget a few things
@WADEPH33R3
@WADEPH33R3 2 жыл бұрын
so when he said to use 5w30 did he mean only for the 3v or doesn't that also include the 3v
@Elver_Galarga_jugo
@Elver_Galarga_jugo 2 жыл бұрын
@@WADEPH33R3 I use 5w30 on all of my modular engines. It’s what Ford designed them to run on them they went to 5w20 to meet CAFE standards…. I rather have engine protection than gain 2 mpg
@tosterland65
@tosterland65 Жыл бұрын
5w30 is best thing I ever done for my truck 2007 f150 phasers failed at 72k swapped it all out did not do an oil pump tho knock on wood lol…. Here I am today 223k and still thumping along
@watsok
@watsok 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you have jobs backed up, a larger work area, and seem to be 150% recovered from working for the dealer life.
@jackreacher9452
@jackreacher9452 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 97 F-250 HD with 307k on the clock. Runs beautiful. Flawless performance. 5.8 all day.
@lorneschalm5056
@lorneschalm5056 6 жыл бұрын
I always run a higher viscosity oil. My 09 f150 had 275.000 kms on it when I traded it in. That's about 175 000 miles and it still ran great. No cam issues at all.
@miketurner9217
@miketurner9217 6 жыл бұрын
I knew I had heard you say in one of your videos to use 5w30! I finally found it! Thanks so much for your videos. I enjoy them and learn so much.
@ryanwatcher3747
@ryanwatcher3747 5 жыл бұрын
You’re a fantastic technician and I appreciate your passion. Keep making great videos for the rest of us. Thanks
@glasser2819
@glasser2819 4 жыл бұрын
I really like how he explains all the failure Ford builds into his truck 😉
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 6 жыл бұрын
Great examples of both types of ownership. Thanks!
@donnyjackson1908
@donnyjackson1908 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. These engines really needed a full synthetic oil ran at 5k intervals or less. Changing the oil is more important than the viscosity. The difference in operating temp in cst between a 5w20 and a 5w30 is only about 10% so that’s not a huge problem. 5w30 also has a wider viscosity spread and will shear faster than a 5w20. Both work well in this engine...if you actually change it religiously.
@theshield1613
@theshield1613 Жыл бұрын
Is the 5w20 full synthetic oil good for the 5.4l v8 if you change the oil every 3k
@patrickaussieMilartry
@patrickaussieMilartry Жыл бұрын
I agree every 5,000 KMs no iffs or butts. Just do it. Mine has done 130,000 KMs in. Ford Fairlane 2006 model. She truly truly looks and runs like new. Awesome 👍
@Funtimes670
@Funtimes670 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I lived closer to you to have you do this maintenance on my 2013 Expedition! You do good work!
@Rxjones
@Rxjones 5 жыл бұрын
It really is all about the maintenance. I’ve owned two 5.4L 3v’s with both having over 160k with absolutely no issues...just sold an 03 2v 5.4 with 336k on it and I currently have an 05 6.0 psd with 254k(egr deleted) but I am meticulous with all maintenance intervals as I used to turn wrenches for a living. Love your videos bro, keep up the hard work!
@johnaldo8975
@johnaldo8975 6 жыл бұрын
Moving to North Carolina this fall. I think in the spring I'm going to have you go through my 2004 5.4 3V and update the timing system and oil pump. I've been nutty about maintenance and switched to 5w-30 motorcraft 5+ years ago. You are 100% worth the drive man. 12 hours from NC is worth an expert working on your baby.
@Davido50
@Davido50 5 жыл бұрын
Looove the older Ford Triton 5.4L V8s. Basic maintenance & can't kill em! Altho, I am super impressed with my 3.5L V6 Ecoboost equipped F150 Platinum FX4. Best truck ever in my opinion!
@noblefriend8112
@noblefriend8112 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I finally found your video that has oil viscosity recommendation. Thank you so much. We really like our new rig 2014 Ford Expedition el.
@brianrobertson1211
@brianrobertson1211 3 жыл бұрын
Great job. I have two Ford trucks, and F250 with the 2 valve 5.4 Triton and an F150 with the 4.2. I take obsessive care of them, and they run great. Thanks for the videos.
@briansmith6306
@briansmith6306 6 жыл бұрын
Great comparisons!!! Will certainly use 5-30 now in my 05 with 75k on it.
@jrdamanat
@jrdamanat 2 жыл бұрын
Has it ran better/provided better maintenance?
@zakpeterson6713
@zakpeterson6713 5 жыл бұрын
Another good video. All the overhead cam engines I’ve worked on have plastic chain guides. Nothing wrong with them unless you have a tensioner fail. But if that happens nothing holds up. Something to be said about pushrod simplicity and reliability. I work on the new junk to make money and I drive the old junk to save money.
@mailmusic
@mailmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I have an 04 heritage F150 5.4L that i bought with 20 miles on it. I have changed the oil every 3-5 thousand miles and I now have 170,000 miles on it. I still runs and drives great. You have to do regular scheduled maintenance for sufficient high mileage use. I thank you for your channel and all you do to let me know how to keep mine running strong. I also have a 4.6 - 06 mustang GT & a 2018 eco boost explorer so I'm always watching for tidbits of things I need to do in order to keep them maintained. Thanks again!!!
@bdagle
@bdagle 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian! As usual I enjoyed this video! I'm another old school mechanic and started working on cars out of the 50's. Cars and oil technology have certainly changed. Back then it was not unusual to take the rocker covers off a car that had not been maintained and to find that it was so sludged up. That you could read the name stamped in the rocker cover, imprinted in the top of the sludge! It was like black Jello. This would plug up the oil returns so bad, that all the oil would end up on top of the motor in the rocker valleys and it would run out of oil in the sump, killing the engine. Today engines are much more sensitive to clean oil and even an engine engine that hasn't been maintained, looks great compared to what happened to these old engines.
@joeschlotthauer840
@joeschlotthauer840 6 жыл бұрын
As a retired Ford, Lincoln, Mercury technician, I would tell my customers that besides their house, their car or truck was their next biggest investment in life, and changing the oil would help with that investment.
@1manarmyguzman629
@1manarmyguzman629 5 жыл бұрын
U recomnned 5w20 or 5w30 for colder weathers on the 2v 5.4
@Gtbomb1
@Gtbomb1 5 жыл бұрын
And not buying a ford. 😂
@Bailey_54R
@Bailey_54R 5 жыл бұрын
@@1manarmyguzman629 5w30
@gobigrey9352
@gobigrey9352 4 жыл бұрын
Gowing up, my dad always told me cars are the worst investment you can possibly make. I laugh at the thought of people buying $50k trucks.
@kirkcardoso6137
@kirkcardoso6137 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gtbomb1 definitely dont buy a GM
@jrcll7856
@jrcll7856 4 жыл бұрын
installed a melling HV oil pump over a year ago on my 09 5.4.... what a difference , how quiet it is and how smooth it idles now
@1986robwilson
@1986robwilson 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see the new shop is busy. Great info on the importance of timely oil changes. Timely oil changes reduces the need for timing jobs.
@patrickaussieMilartry
@patrickaussieMilartry Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for these tips. I recently purchased in Australia 🦘 a 5.4ltr 3 valve in a 2006 Fairlane. The last Fairlane Ford made in Australia. She has only done 90,000 miles or 130,000 KMs. Serviced and loved every 5,000Kms she is in absolutely amazing running order. Cheers my AMERICAN MATES.
@gerardtrigo380
@gerardtrigo380 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the 60's both of those would be considered very clean. I remember pulling a valve cover off of a car that was so heavy with sludge that we weighed it before and after cleaning and it had 5.2 lbs of sludge removed. On the engine itself we honed the cylinders, new rings, new valve seals and springs bolted it back together and it was fine for another 100,000 miles.
@kirstenspencer3630
@kirstenspencer3630 2 жыл бұрын
Had airport commercial Dodge vans ( 360's ) where the oil has turned to solid and had to remove the pan to trowel out the jello like oil. The new SF rated oil would never do that....
@niceatrya3477
@niceatrya3477 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 5.4 3v, and a 3.5L eco. The dealer thought I was nuts when I asked them to do a trans flush on the 3.5L after 30K. They said the fluid was good for the life of the vehicle. I had to tell him, absolutely. But if I follow that guidance, the life of that trans will be less than 100K... >=|
@stevensapyak7971
@stevensapyak7971 5 жыл бұрын
Nicea Trya 9.5.18. You are absolutely correct......you can get much more life out of those Transmissions if the fluid is flushed at 30k mile intervals❗️The manufacturer recommended intervals are a marketing strategy to lower the perceived cost of ownership‼️
@jonlucas5521
@jonlucas5521 5 жыл бұрын
I had my transmission oil changed too...twice...no one seems to know how to completely drain it..even the dealer, because they only charged me for 7 quarts, and I think it holds something like 13 quarts. Then I went to a transmission specialty shop, and they did the same thing. I don't know if there is a torque convertor reservoir or what, but they aren't getting it all changed..just diluting it by about half.
@brandonv1727
@brandonv1727 5 жыл бұрын
The drilling company i work for has two 2011 F450 with the 3 valve 6.8 V10 both have over 250,000 miles on them without a transmission flush. They haul 1,100 gallons water with them also, off road and on road. One truck had y-pipe replaced, ball joints, tie rods, front wheel bearings, front axle u-joints, lifter tap fixed, and mass air flow sensor. The MAF sensor was replaced because the air filter was so dirty it got sucked up into the intake. The other truck had exhaust manifolds, ball joints, tie rods, wheel bearings, front axle u-joints, and a transfer case at around 200,000 miles. Transfer case probably went becasue a new guy forced it from 4 low to 2 high while driving. I think the biggest problem with vehicles is letting them sit for long periods of time.
@jacobreza6989
@jacobreza6989 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon V very true
@yahoomotherfkr5020
@yahoomotherfkr5020 5 жыл бұрын
No they are right it will last forever. The transmission would never have failed at 100,000 miles because of trans fluid.
@landlordchannel
@landlordchannel 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very objective and comprehensive comparison! Truly informative.
@LSX-zr8ng
@LSX-zr8ng 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks to you i built a great running F150! Keep up the good work bro.
@uprednecked
@uprednecked 6 жыл бұрын
i use to work on a fleet of vehicles which included super dutys f-250 and f-350 with the 5.4 3v engine along with some f-450s with the 6.8 3v engines and we found a problem using 5w-20 oil lots of noise/slapping since then we changed to 5w-30 oil and our engines had so many less problems
@brycegolding6464
@brycegolding6464 5 жыл бұрын
My 2007 f150 has 700k on it and I'm finally doing the timing on it, they phasers and are mint, I've been doing oil changes every 4000 kms the only major part I've had to do on it is the timing chains and guides
@53Scarz
@53Scarz 6 жыл бұрын
Just had to replace my front hub 2010 F150 4wd . Was simple after watching this guy's video . Thanks
@crisprtalk6963
@crisprtalk6963 Ай бұрын
Brian I changed over to 5W30 from 5W20 on my 2010 F150 Triton 5.L truck with 80K miles when you made this video and I can tell you my truck is incredibly quiet now. Its amazing how well it runs. Thank you.
@Luddy-of1zd
@Luddy-of1zd Ай бұрын
Dude I bought a 2010 yesterday, should I put 5W30 in her next oil change? 128k on the odometer, only went for it because of the perfect maintenance record on the CARFAX
@fastrace011
@fastrace011 6 жыл бұрын
The plastic timing components are ok, but the chain guides should have a metal spine. Now on the factory tensioners the spring in them tends to get weak and allow the chain to be loose on Startup and the chain will sling around and often bust one of the chain guides. I prefer they metal tensioners with the little ratcheting arm that always keeps the chains tight, even in the absence of oil pressure. Great Video. I've seen 4.6 with 350,000 miles and full synthetic oil changes every 5,000 miles and those timing components looked new with maybe 20% grooved down tensioner arms and guides and I've seen a 4.6 with 130,000 miles and the chain ground all the way down into the tensioners and the chain guides completely busted to pieces. Maintenance is key for sure.
@chadharmon5716
@chadharmon5716 6 жыл бұрын
Very true and great wisdom just wish people take it
@danielsobkow483
@danielsobkow483 6 жыл бұрын
I had a 2003 Lincoln Navigator with 85000 miles . Always changed oil every 3000 miles with 5w20 oil big mistake used it to tow a 4200 lbs travel trailer. Engine blew up. If I would have used 5 w30 it may have never have happened. $8500 for a new engine . In my opinion a 20 wight oil is to light for a 6000 lbs suv.
@chadharmon5716
@chadharmon5716 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Sobkow oh I agree even my 99 explorer with a v8 calls for 5w20 oh hell na I use 10w30 no problem at all
@hank1556
@hank1556 6 жыл бұрын
it blows my mind that some people actually think you just have to put has in a vehicle and thats it
@BrentReyno
@BrentReyno 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time and effort to make these videos. I’ve got the 3V fitted in my ‘06 Ford Falcon. Great knowing that my maintenance regime will be worth it in the long run... and if something ever does go wrong, I will know how to fix it!
@ericgrau123
@ericgrau123 6 жыл бұрын
BrentReyno How does that truck motor feel in a car? I bet the torque is nice?
@BrentReyno
@BrentReyno 6 жыл бұрын
It’s awesome! You rarely need to take it above 1750rpm. It’s also mated to a ZF 6 speed automatic with sequential shift and a LSD. I’ll have to upload a 0-60
@AmericanMan961
@AmericanMan961 4 жыл бұрын
i love my 5.4l f250, i just rolled 160k on it today, your videos keep popping up on my feed but i switched to synthetic oil id say about at 143k or so and i can say shes running amazingly
@gtlegacy1
@gtlegacy1 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny I was on the fence about oil weight and I was like let me search on KZfaq for that one guy who knows fords inside and out sure enough makuloco shows up nails the answer immediately
@theodorerinehart781
@theodorerinehart781 6 жыл бұрын
I certainly hope KZfaq is paying you well for the information you provide, at the very least you're repair business seems to be thriving. Do you recommend 5-30 on 3.5 Duratech? also is 5-7K change intervals acceptable?
@paulbuzanis9284
@paulbuzanis9284 4 жыл бұрын
just finished new timing set roler followers and lash adjusters. first time tearing into modular engine thanks to yoir videos wasnt baf at all. had slight tick so did it before major problem. hopefully another 175k miles . thanks again
@Wrayacres1987
@Wrayacres1987 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely enjoyed this video man! Bought my 5.4 f150 new in 2006 and getting ready to do the timing set at 180,000 miles. She's been ticking for too long!!!
@abramruelas5176
@abramruelas5176 6 жыл бұрын
I always use 5w 30 when they are about 75k miles and over. Use recommended in new motors. After that get that nice syrup!
@pound4poundbeast
@pound4poundbeast 5 жыл бұрын
What oil did the 5.4 that was maintained well use?
@rhino6285
@rhino6285 5 жыл бұрын
Great video I own since new a 2002 F150 XLT 5.4 Triton 2 valve 4x4 with 4 speed auto 135,000 miles
@michaeltrower6792
@michaeltrower6792 6 жыл бұрын
I have an 06 f150 with 105000 I was getting a rattle on cold starts so I took the front cover off the engine and found both tensioners were blown everything thing else was in great shape replaced both tensioners sounds great now thanks for your videos Brian it really helped me
@dewrus2153
@dewrus2153 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I think this was an awesome opportunity for comparison. I have a question for you...if you were to buy a new F-150 today, which engine would you choose, and why? I'm asking because I'm currently weighing the decision of buying a new F-150 later this year. I do my own routine maintenance and tend to keep vehicles a very long time (bought my current F-150 new in 2004) so longevity and ease of service is important. Any advice you could give would be greatly appreciated!
@Zecrid.
@Zecrid. 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly the 5.4 is a strong engine even if you abuse it. Near 200k on my father's only oil changes and filters. everything else is factory. I think my uncle's 5.4 is the same story but with 240k...
@oso1165
@oso1165 5 жыл бұрын
my 2010 f150 work truck has 350k lol
@apuente15
@apuente15 6 жыл бұрын
I have an 06 f150 5.4 and the motor is as quiet as the day I first got it, I have always used mobil 1 synthetic and kept up with oil changes. I changed the plugs and coils at 100k and this truck runs like a champ.
@antoniamckinley1157
@antoniamckinley1157 3 жыл бұрын
You have a bunch of good videos and share a ton of good information
@RockfordF150Bass
@RockfordF150Bass 6 жыл бұрын
As soon as i heard you say switch to 5w30 on one of your other vids i did. Thank you sir for passing on your knowledge to us.😎👍👍
@TheGoodguy68
@TheGoodguy68 6 жыл бұрын
RockfordT1 Bass 15W-40 is better.
@JTS_RC
@JTS_RC 6 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard this I had to replay that part multiple times. 😳
@lukelacross190
@lukelacross190 6 жыл бұрын
Making the switch this coming oil change on my 2010 because of this.
@kieranwilliams3052
@kieranwilliams3052 6 жыл бұрын
Why stop at 15-40w go to straight 50W like the shady used car lots do to hide rod knocks until the new owner has there oil changed to hear banging going on.. there is a few shady lots by me. The state has tried shutting them down twice!
@RockfordF150Bass
@RockfordF150Bass 6 жыл бұрын
Luca Fuoco i started to run 5w30 and it seems perfectly fine(3 oil changes with 5w30)
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a Honda tech and Honda has had the same issue. Ridiculously long OCI using 0W20/5W20 oils causing chain & VCT sprocket noise. All of Honda’s K24 engines are built here in the states. Engines shipped to European assembly plants are spec’d for either 0W40 or 5W40 European long life oils. These oils are much higher in anti wear additives and detergents than GL-5 USA spec’d oils. Here in the States emissions are required to be warranted for 80k miles so manufacturers have demanded lower anti wear zinc levels in GL5 oils. I highly recommend my customers to run either 0W30 or 0W40 in their Honda & Toyota engines. If they don’t want to spend the extra money for the oil I at least try to run a decent 5W30 oil in. My personal Honda is now 13yrs old and has never had anything engine- wise other than the required tuneup and valve adjustment. Chain, guides, VTC sprocket all factory and the engine is spotless inside.
@Woody-fv7uu
@Woody-fv7uu 5 жыл бұрын
You run 5-30,0-30,0-40?
@joser2011a
@joser2011a 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Brian. I'll switch to 5w-30 on my 2007 expedition.
@KM-kl8xu
@KM-kl8xu 6 жыл бұрын
Very professional! Thanks for the tip.
@dmpsix7417
@dmpsix7417 6 жыл бұрын
I have the 5.4 Triton 2v. It has 220k miles and it's my daily driver.
@230arnie
@230arnie 5 жыл бұрын
I loved mine too. The only major thing I had to do was the TimeSert repair on the spark plug holes. Other than that just regular maintenance and when I sold it at 260,000 miles it was still running strong.
@skittykitty1000
@skittykitty1000 5 жыл бұрын
Full synthetic oil, factory filter, 5000 mile intervals in modern engines.
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman 5 жыл бұрын
That first engine looks beautiful!
@davidm664
@davidm664 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, bro awesome information which I appreciate very much. Always up for learning more every day.
@seanmccauley1446
@seanmccauley1446 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think I'll switch right away to 5W-30 oil per the recommendation and reduce the oil interval to 5,000 miles instead of the factory set 7,500.
@vanderhoof5701
@vanderhoof5701 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, I remember pulling intakes off of 70s V8s running Penzoil and they had a half inch of muck in the valley by the time they died at 100k
@truthhurts1754
@truthhurts1754 6 жыл бұрын
Van Der Hoof Pennzoil literally makes the best conventional oil you can get. They also make some of the highest quality synthetic around as well. This isn't the 70's anymore. Shell Oil Petroleum owns them now and then make some of the highest quality products you can buy that are readily available. Just ask Dodge who puts it factory fill in their high performance hemis and used to as well in their Vipers before they halted production. They also factory fill Ferraris with Pennzoil so there's also that
@Nygaard8070
@Nygaard8070 6 жыл бұрын
yup, most that had penz oil clunked out around 70,000, don't care about the penz of today not going to ever use it, use Valvoline , clean engine no issues ever,
@vanderhoof5701
@vanderhoof5701 6 жыл бұрын
Doug Boerger I agree. I use Valvoline or Chevron and have super clean engines. At 130k I start dumping a few oz of sea foam in the oil 150 miles before I change it to remove any varnish. I go 250-300k miles and the body dies before the engine. Trans flush about every 25k and I get 300k trouble free miles from Dodge Caravan transmissions that everybody seems to think are trouble prone. I've never had either an engine or trans failure.
@beezertwelvewashingbeard8703
@beezertwelvewashingbeard8703 6 жыл бұрын
Used conventional Mobil in a 1999 intrepid bought new for the 13 years I owned it, still ran fine when i sold it. Those 2.7 sludge motors almost never made it that long. Now I've had my 1988 pickup for almost 10 years, 333,000 original miles on engine that's never been overhauled, still using conventional Mobil since I've had it and after replacing valve covers, can still see everything under there, no buildup or sludge whatsoever. Edit: valve cover gaskets replaced, not valve covers.
@1984hydro
@1984hydro 6 жыл бұрын
Pensoil is Parifin braised, like candles. That why you get that build up on conventional oil
@AP9311
@AP9311 6 жыл бұрын
Brian, great video!! Awesome explanation in comparison between those two trucks. Now I can see the difference!!! Thanks for the education! :)
@JohnCostlow
@JohnCostlow 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 97 expedition with the 2 valve 5.4 motor I bought used with 171k miles. Change the oil every 3k miles with 5w20 high mileage synthetic blend and it runs great! Now has 215k miles. Just drove it from Alabama to Missouri.
@Ne7naKedah
@Ne7naKedah 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your beneficial videos my friend I have a question: my car is 2007 mercury mountaineer 3v 4.6 I’m using 5w20 as in the manual and I live in Saudi Arabia the temperature is around 40 degrees centigrade should i use 5w30 or deferent oil? Thank you
@lukeperry6903
@lukeperry6903 5 жыл бұрын
Hussain Hejazi i dont think you would have problems finding oil in saudi Arabia😂
@PassiveDestroyer
@PassiveDestroyer 4 жыл бұрын
I'd go to 5w30 if I were you.
@mcleodhomeservices
@mcleodhomeservices 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Do you recommend 5W-30 for the 5.4 2-valve as well?
@centoguzzi
@centoguzzi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the helpful information.
@darwindropmazda
@darwindropmazda 6 жыл бұрын
Great update Brian👍
@RyanEmeryLovesCars
@RyanEmeryLovesCars 4 жыл бұрын
I've wondered about this for a while: is there a specific reason why Ford decided to use 3 valves instead of 4 and SOHC instead of DOHC?
@danb2
@danb2 4 жыл бұрын
They should’ve whent pushrod, and stuck to 2 valves
@MG-og4zp
@MG-og4zp 6 жыл бұрын
What about the 2 valves?? 5-20 or 5-30?
@glasser2819
@glasser2819 4 жыл бұрын
depending on season: 5w30 winter or 10w40 summer The super thin 5w20 delivers low pressure because it leaks out of all dynamic surfaces before the camshaft rear sees any lub. 5w20 is like driving with 1/2 tire pressure: premature wear! 👍
@robertmohs1371
@robertmohs1371 3 жыл бұрын
Have an '05 F150 5.4L 3V with 218K miles. During my annual service had the phazers, timing chains with guides, tensioners, etc. replaced. Also had a Melling HD oil pump installed while it was torn apart. There was only a trace amount of varnish build-up to be seen on any of the exposed areas and parts. It now runs like a top! As a note, I use 5-20W Amsoil and I change it once a year or 15,000, whichever comes first (the secret is in their filter). By the way my truck's normal daily weight 8,500 pounds. When pulling my 28' travel trailer, it's over 9K. All I ever feed my engine is 91 octane, non-ethanol gasoline, that's to my Edge Evolution CTS2 Programmer, S&B cold-air intake, BBK 81mm throttle body, Magnaflow cat-back exhaust, Jet Performance MAF/AIT sensor, 3.73 differentials and other upgrades. Will never own another truck ... too late in life!
@squangan
@squangan Жыл бұрын
After 13 years I just had the valve covers off my original owner 2009 5.4 for the first time. It was dealer serviced with Motorcraft oil until 2018 and then I experimented with several different brands before settling on Mobil 1 for it. I could not believe how clean the valve covers, cams, and top of the cylinder heads were as there is no buildup, sludge or discolouration and everything is still shiny silver clean with no signs of wear on the cams,etc. I did not expect to see that level of cleanliness in a 13 year old motor even though it’s had the oil changed religiously since new, I guess proper maintenance does pay off.
@robhoug3724
@robhoug3724 6 жыл бұрын
Ford tech make you loco is the standard for Ford. Ford buy this man a truck so he doesn't turn into ramtruckmakuloco
@stevexxx6078
@stevexxx6078 4 жыл бұрын
ford your too late.... he already bought him a ram
@glasser2819
@glasser2819 4 жыл бұрын
... he works on Fords so he can drive a good RAM! 🤗
@rsattahip
@rsattahip 5 жыл бұрын
That second engine wasn't abused too badly. There's no sludge in there, it's a dark film covering. Too bad Ford can't make them right the first time instead of having to redesign parts.
@Floordford
@Floordford 5 жыл бұрын
CAD and engine room thrashing may not expose the same problems that real world day to day grind and neglect will.
@brookeremler9170
@brookeremler9170 6 жыл бұрын
Have an 05 F250 with the 5.4 on my parents farm, has 400,000km (250,000mi) changed the oil every 10,000km (6500) castrol syntec 5-20w and Fram synthetic oil filters, coolant and transmission flush every 100,000km along with spark plugs and still runs great. Engine is completely original no major mechanical work done to the engine, other than replacing two of ignition coils. Truck was used on the farm and survived my brother and me in our high school days. I'll use Valvoline's old slogan "Change your oil, not your engine"
@rydplrs71
@rydplrs71 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the 5/30 advice. Mine has 186 and is good but I want to give it the best chance.
@TCRSCircuit
@TCRSCircuit 6 жыл бұрын
Quick question. Why does one side have less varnish than the other? My 4.6 with just under 200K had the same thing. One side slight varnish and one side brand new
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 6 жыл бұрын
crankcase vapors being sucked up to the drivers side.
@TCRSCircuit
@TCRSCircuit 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jaybaren4965
@jaybaren4965 6 жыл бұрын
So 5w 30 is what i should start running? I have 2 5.4 tritons and was gonna do oil changes today
@Chrisallengallery
@Chrisallengallery 6 жыл бұрын
It depends on your climate.
@PatChapp
@PatChapp 6 жыл бұрын
It shouldnt matter, as long as its API SN they all meet the same standards. Pick your favorite colour or your brand of choice, Motorcraft is a fine oil at a reasonable price.
@jaybaren4965
@jaybaren4965 6 жыл бұрын
I usually run castrol high mileage and live in ny. But he said start running 5w 30
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 6 жыл бұрын
Whatever is on sale with a filter, and meets the spec.
@michaeltrower6792
@michaeltrower6792 6 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely use 5w30 Motorcraft oil
@vernonpitts6630
@vernonpitts6630 6 жыл бұрын
01' F-250 Super Duty 4x4 Crew Cab with the Triton V-10, same as the 5.4, just two extra cylinders. Only 135k miles, but almost every one of those miles has been towing a trailer, or cab-over camper on with a trailer. Just towed from Seattle to Maine with 11,500 pounds of trailer and truck fully loaded. Total weight of truck and trailer for this trip was 21,000 lbs. Never an issue. I perform an oil change once a year if I don't use the truck much that year, or I change the oil every 3,500 miles. Always have used 5-20 synthetic. It does not even leak or seep oil. Awesome truck so far.
@53Scarz
@53Scarz 6 жыл бұрын
Wish this guy was located in Alabama . I'm Ford guy and watch this guy videos all the time . Top Notch Tech
@cayugabrother1
@cayugabrother1 6 жыл бұрын
I am a tech in a Chevrolet we have had terrible issues in the 2.4 Ecotec and 3.6 vvt engines with timing chain issues. I have personally torn engines down that have so much buildup from lack of service I have had to scrape the sluge off of timing component bolts. Changing your oil is the cheapest insurance you can have. $30 every 3k can save you thousands
@tannerfranklin1713
@tannerfranklin1713 6 жыл бұрын
cayugabrother1 That is no joke, I work at a Chevrolet dealer also and it's not uncommon to have one of those engines every couple weeks come for timing chains or rods and pistons(2.4). Expensive/good oil is still cheaper than an engine.
@foxwithshades7080
@foxwithshades7080 6 жыл бұрын
cayugabrother1 Any tips on maintaince on a 4.3l V6 ecotec3 2016 silverado?
@cayugabrother1
@cayugabrother1 6 жыл бұрын
The 4.3 ecotec is just a 5.3 minus the front cylinders. Changr your oil every 5k and keep good fuel in it. This engine ises high pressure fuel system like a diesel and contaminated fuel can ruin things quick
@foxwithshades7080
@foxwithshades7080 6 жыл бұрын
cayugabrother1 I forgot to mention I have flex fuel. Would i still need high grade fuel?
@cayugabrother1
@cayugabrother1 6 жыл бұрын
When I say high grade fuel I'm referring to fresh fuel. Don't put any old gas in it thats been sitting around the garage for a long time or sometimes junkyards sell fuel they pull from vehicles. Thoes are the things to stay away from
@closertothetruth9209
@closertothetruth9209 6 жыл бұрын
Do you recomend engine oil flush to prolong vvt life
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 6 жыл бұрын
This kit- amzn.to/2rrAvwj
@trplpwr1038
@trplpwr1038 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@ricardoviolanti5780
@ricardoviolanti5780 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information mate .
@jasongibbs8151
@jasongibbs8151 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the oil recommendation. I was wondering about that.
@robhoug3724
@robhoug3724 6 жыл бұрын
Get this guy the 2018 f150 Diesel
@1984hydro
@1984hydro 6 жыл бұрын
y the added cost of the motor , + cost of all that EPA BS emissions control shit you will have to constantly have to fix , it's not worth it
@SSG3084
@SSG3084 6 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend switching to 5w30 on the 4.6 3v mustang engine as well?
@peterm3159
@peterm3159 6 жыл бұрын
SSG3084 I would like to know this as well!!
@AH-zw9zx
@AH-zw9zx 6 жыл бұрын
SSG3084 Is 5w30 better for just the phasers or the whole engine? I have an explorer with the 2v 4.6.
@red3874
@red3874 6 жыл бұрын
4.6 are way more reliable and bullet proof then the 5.4
@SSG3084
@SSG3084 6 жыл бұрын
AH404 I don't know that's why I am asking myself
@jrwou1
@jrwou1 6 жыл бұрын
In another video Brian posted about a year ago or so he does recommend 5w-30 for the 4.6L 3v as well. As I recall he says that these Triton engines call for 5w-30 in South America and seem to have less issues as here in States and Canada. BTW 5w-30 was what Ford spec'd for the modular engines until the CAFE standards were changed in the early 2000's.
@RdeckerStynkBait.
@RdeckerStynkBait. 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the view, and videos learning alot
@michaelmurray121
@michaelmurray121 6 жыл бұрын
Yes Brian maintenance is key 💪🏽
@MrErikw26
@MrErikw26 6 жыл бұрын
Good engines, but NOT tolerant of poor maintenance
@StoneysWorkshop
@StoneysWorkshop 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 f150 5.0, 185k miles(mostly hwy) I’m suspecting I should have some heavy maintenance done soon for longevity sake. Ballpark how much a job like this costs? $1-2,000? or $2-3,000?
@tajipressley4705
@tajipressley4705 6 жыл бұрын
StoneysWorkshop Same question.....ballpark price for this job?
@derekisthematrix
@derekisthematrix 6 жыл бұрын
StoneysWorkshop I too would like to know the cost but really the # of hours + parts cost please!
@michaeltrower6792
@michaeltrower6792 6 жыл бұрын
About 2000 for basic timing component replacement at a private shop at a dealer probably 4000
@derekisthematrix
@derekisthematrix 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Trower wow for the dealer cost you could almost get a new engine!
@michaeltrower6792
@michaeltrower6792 6 жыл бұрын
derekisthematrix yes you are correct a reman engine is about 3200 plus labor and parts to install
@josecuervo4423
@josecuervo4423 6 жыл бұрын
My ford 4.6 V8 is one of the biggest reasons I am going electric. As you heard him say, this is what I use to see when doing warranty work.
@yahoomotherfkr5020
@yahoomotherfkr5020 5 жыл бұрын
Gusli Kokle Who cares
@plumbucket65
@plumbucket65 4 жыл бұрын
Man you are good at explaining things
@FloorItDuh
@FloorItDuh 6 жыл бұрын
Also virtually ever manufacture uses plastic guides for timing chains. Virtually the entire industry.
@SangheiliSpecOp
@SangheiliSpecOp 6 жыл бұрын
Josh Leviton I noticed that too. I watched a bently documentary and they were using plastic guides in the engine lol. I have a 4.6 3v on my 08 Mustang GT. 170k miles and runs better now than when it was new lol. I use steel tensioners from the older GTs instead of the plastic pos ones Ford put in the newer mustangs
@motorcityman401
@motorcityman401 6 жыл бұрын
Floor-It-Duh Chrysler doesn't anymore on the 5.7, since the 2008-2012 Challengers and Chargers had timing chain issues.
@FloorItDuh
@FloorItDuh 6 жыл бұрын
There's a good reason to use plastic versus metal in this case. Metal on metal causes wear and the softer metal is going to give. Trust me, you would rather have the guides fail first instead of the chain.
@motorcityman401
@motorcityman401 6 жыл бұрын
Floor-It-Duh Better to make a better quality guide to begin with and not use cheap plastic.....plastic will wear before metal. If the guide fails the chain can fail to.
@FloorItDuh
@FloorItDuh 6 жыл бұрын
That is the point. So that the guide does wear first. It is literally the point. This way if for whatever reason it fails the guide fails first and instead of both chains and guides failing at the same time all at once leading to a catastrophic destruction of your engine you have the chance to limp it off the road and prevent having to buy an entire new engine. There is no "better quality". Have you ever handled them? I have. They are tough as shit for plastic. It's not normal plastic like you think. The people who engineered them and the plastic know full well and far more than either me or you and I say this as a mechanic. It's called built in failure points. It's done to save you money versus having to buy an entire new product.
@FishFind3000
@FishFind3000 6 жыл бұрын
What dis the guides look like in the nasty truck? Was there a difference in those parts?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 6 жыл бұрын
I should have shown those, they were all in pieces both sides. Phaser came apart VCT solenoids cracked off
@johnferguson7235
@johnferguson7235 6 жыл бұрын
OUCH
@scottwebber652
@scottwebber652 4 жыл бұрын
John Ferguson I was wondering too as I didn't know if I missed it.
@smms1276
@smms1276 6 жыл бұрын
Very good thank you. You are d's best ford guy EVER
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