remember when summoning a single quasar and having just a single omni negate was considered a win condition? neither does konami

does anyone remember when we attacked each other's monsters?

Turn 1: takes 20 years to complete Turn 2: you don’t get to play

If Pegasus used his millenium eye to foresee that play he would have a stroke.

It's amazing how relevant this still is. But to summarize: This guy spent four minutes on an *automated* dueling system to search, draw, shuffle out their whole deck, to set up 5 negates on the very first turn. Now, imagine how this would look in real life. You draw your hand, and lose the coin flip. Your hand has no hand traps (a very possible situation, and more common than one might think), and your opponent does this. So you get to sit there, watching your opponent draw, search, and shuffle their deck for about ten minutes, while you have no out to their play. And you have to keep watching, since you can't take your eyes off the board or off of your opponent, if you're worried they're going to pull something. And after fifteen whole minutes, the turn is passed over to you. So finally, you get to play! Right? Nope. You quickly find out that you bricked, and there's no way you can play through five negates. So you have to concede. The fact that people think that *this* is okay need to get their head examined. This isn't the fault of players using a bad deck or not having the means/money to buy the best and most broken cards of the format, this goes so much deeper. it's just bad card and game design, and it's so deterring to newcomers and people who just came back into the game alike. Like, this shouldn't have to be said, but apparently it has, because over 1500 people seem to think that this is healthy for the game. And to the people who say: "Duuuuuh just play better decks and cards lol u just suck", let me ask this: Are you fine with the game being reduced to "Play X and Y or else you will keep losing and you suck lol." "Just win the coin flip lol." Well, are you? Because if you are, you are the exact reason why people are quitting and possibly even growing to hate the game. Congratulations, hope you're proud of yourself. Edit: Some extra comments. Like, are people fine with decks being reduced to nothing more but generic negation extra deck monsters and how quickly you can spam the board with them? And why are you even playing Yu-Gi-Oh! if you're just going to sit there and play with yourself to set up an entire board of monsters that pretty much don't let your opponent play the game? Both of these points are applicable to both offline, and online. While Master Duel may have solved the lack of accessibility to newcomers, they'll be in for a very rough and perhaps even an awful time if they keep playing against decks that set up nothing but negates while the newcomer probably just wanted to play a deck they like from days of old or aestethic wise. Also could apply to returning players after years of absence. This is not okay. The game is fundamentally broken at its core. Where if your deck can't play certain cards, it's a bad deck. If you can't afford certain cards, you're a bad player. If you can't play through five negates, you're a terrible duelist. These issues have persisted for a very long time. And Konami has done absolutely nothing to address any of these gnawing issues. There needs to be an overhaul. A limit on the amount of special summons. And a hard limit on how much negates you can set up. I, for one, like the diversity in what all the different decks have to offer. Yet we'll never find out, because they either can't spam the generic extra deck big attack omniversal negate monsters, or they set up on the second turn. And if a deck gets disregarded because of the latter, then we especially know it's gone too far. And there's your extra comments. I believe I summed this up quite nicely. Peace.

"this trap card can be activated from my hand" `"my deck can be activated from my deck"`

That Duel would have take a whole season in the anime.

Yugioh 2002: I summon this monster and place one card face down and end my turn Yugioh 2021: I summon twenty monsters, negate all your cards, activate five traps from my hand, deal 8000 points of damage, win the duel and end my turn

Who remembers when you would just… summon a monster. The excitement of summoning a tribute monster. Setting a trap. Simple card descriptions instead of frickin novels. WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED TOO YUGIOH? just reset it send us back to the start.

When trap cards that cannot activate from the hand are considered bad because they are too slow, you know the game is in a bad state.

Imagine paying all that money for a top tier deck when solitaire is free.

I quit yugioh about 5 to 6 years back when I watched my opponent at a local tournament cycle his deck for 15 minutes straight. Just got up and walked out.

Ill be honest this freaking terrifies me as an old yugioh player. The dude went though half his deck and it took like forever! And he summoned several high powered Monsters that kept his opponent from playing. How is that fair. HOW IS THAT FUN!?!

"If your opponent attacks this card, summon blue eyes from your deck or graveyard and destroy all cards on your opponents side of the field, kill his mom and kidnap his brother."

I thought porn websites were the only place to find videos of people playing with themselves. I was wrong.

Personally, I'm never coming back to Yugioh. I tried Master Duel, wasted hours in no-interaction games. There is no excuse for this level of bad game design.

Jesus, I haven't played since 5Ds. I can't imagine playing against shit like this. Dude literally summoned 13,700 worth of attack monsters on his first turn.

I remember a time when Jinzo was my biggest threat

You guys remember having a 3rd turn?

Nowaday, normal summon IS the special summon

"I summon a monster, which let's me draw three cards, and if I send this card to the graveyard, I can summon any monster from my graveyard, and if I draw this monster I can put this on my field, then that allows me to synchro summon this monster who destroys all spells and traps on your field, and now I'm gonna fuse him with this, and this monster I summoned can destroy all the monsters on your field if I discard a spell. Now I have 6500 attack, and I attack you directly! Wasn't that fun?!"

I know I keep saying this, but when the power creep hits the point where Raigeki is not only unbanned but is referred to as a bad card, it's time to call it a day.

Meta Yugi is basically: "Oh, I lost the coinflip and I'm going second?" *Surrenders*

This is what happens when you have no limit on how many cards you can play in a turn. This type of stuff doesn't happen in MTG or other card games with a mana system. Don't get me wrong, stupid shit can happen in any card game when you draw insanely well. But NOTHING to this extent. It's literally turn 1, and he's played half his deck.

When you can do 30 card combos off of 1 card. It takes the fun out of the game. No reason people can make a unbreakable board with 5 negates. You're not even playing the game at that point

GX Era: I love this game Synchro: interesting.. Xyz: cool mechanic, but lets slow down Pendulum: wtf are you doing Now: WHAT DO YOU MEAN

remember when special summon is actually "Special"? Yeah i miss those day

Now that the game is closer to gambling rather than strategy, how could you expect people to stay

For better picture, Konami could print a trap card today that literally said "when your opponent declares an attack: you win the duel", and there would be very real reasons to NOT play it.

Shout out to the 90's kids out there. Who played Yu-Gi-Oh classic.

At this point, reading what every card does on the first turn is the same amount of reading a big ass book. I need glasses and a coffee and a sign that says "quiet im reading."

And this is how these type of players stop anyone new from trying to start playing. As a noob would you wanna play a game where all you do is watch someone spout nonsense and throw cards around for at least 2 or 3 minutes before you even get your first turn and then be told “oh thanks for letting me stroke my own ego, and would you look at that? I win! Wanna play again?” That’s how you kill your own game. Well done Konami. You kill off MGS and now YuGiOh.

remember when you played 1 normal monster and played like 1 trap or magic card and you were done for that turn. Good old days.

Seeing that guy's first turn, I might as well be watching someone play solitaire.

Just to remind everyone, this is a game where you still can only do one normal summon per then.

KONAMI!! Listen to me! Monsters are for BATTLING, Spells are used to facilitate the Monsters, and Traps are for countering the opponent's moves! Not like this where Monsters do all three role at the same freaking time!

"Did you just summon a munch of monsters in one turn?" "Yeah, so?" "That's against the rules isn't it?" "... You've been out of touch with the game for a while now haven't you?"

i can draw all my deck but can't use pot of greeed

I miss it when people actually tried to duel like in the anime...

If a trap card was printed with the effect "You win the game." People wouldn't play it because it was too slow.

"Hello Allure of Darkness my old friend You've gone and discarded my entire hand again"

once upon a time we all saw kaiba play 3 blue eyes in one turn to summon his ultimate dragon and were collectively bummed out when our kid selves actually started playing the game and realized it didnt really work like that nowadays if dropping 3 blue eyes on the field and fusing them was all your turn did it'd be a weak ass turn

5 years later -> it's gotten worse.

When I was in college a few years ago I learned that my roommate played Yugioh, so just for the fun of it, I challenged him and he agreed to it. So I grabbed my deck that I had in middle school, which was an OG-era deck with my most recent card dating back to maybe 2005 (after that point I stopped playing), while his deck was a recent meta deck. Needless to say I got destroyed in a hilarious manner. I was in shock, and seeing how the game is played nowadays is just brutal. They massacred my boy

Pot of greed is banned but dis dude just ran thru his whole deck tf??

Remember when card texts weren't two paragraphs long

Found this video because I was playing Master Duel and actually had time to go and make some lunch while my opponent finished his first turn.

A player should not be able to make this many plays in one turn. Such a stupid game

Yu-Gi-Oh, the game where you play by yourself while having someone look at you with frustration and anger.

yu gi oh then : i summon Gagagigo and set 2 cards down, your turn ! yu gi oh now : i normal summon then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, and hum.. i think ill end my t-..ho wait.. ill special summon one more thing then now ill end my turn !

His video aged pretty well.

The playing for fun attitude has either been eradicated or discouraged in the yugioh community cause everyone just wants to play to win. Its sucks cause anytime you don't take things seriously like not wanting to read the cards. A bunch of people just get pissed cause how dare you not want to read rather than learning as you duel. Its annoying cause of how elitists have taken over the game completely. If you want to play for fun. You have to play with already existing friends. I feel like the social aspect is gone too cause dueling is also a social experience by engaging with the other person. But engagement has been completely cut off by just 1 turn wins. Maybe im just bitter. But i ask myself whats the point of even starting to learn to play if most games are gonna turn out this way.

Casual yugioh with your buddies is where it's at

spell NO trap NO summon monster(s) NO playing the game NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

If you have to rely on drawing a hand trap before your first turn just to stand a chance, there’s something terribly wrong with your card game.

After 4yrs of this video, YuGiOh still sucks, but the people still there? Why?

This is why i quit Yugioh after playing for over a decade, the game has outdated rules and power creep out the ass. Believe it or not this game use to play out like a game of chess now its more like a expensive game of tic tac toe.

They fucked this game so bad I don't care what anyone says. It's not just the summoning of the new monsters it's the effects of the monsters from the extra deck that ruins in and they just summon 4 or 5 first turn and they just negate everything it's pathetic it's actually so ridiculous how they expect kids ti play this it's so stupid. Honestly I don't know who sat un the meeting room and came up with all that stupid shit

This card game is trash, it is nothing like the good old days. It time to burn it all and start fresh or simply let it die.

Playing uno doesn't sound all that bad honestly.

I quit Yugioh for this reason... If a deck doesn't let me play Yugioh, whats the point in even trying?

5 negates is pure cancer, I left

Modern Yugioh is like playing Street Fighter where if you lose the coin flip you're not allowed to touch the controller for 30 seconds.

My questions is. How do they expect to get new players when the meta is so advanced that you can lose in your first turn?

When I lose, I want to feel like it is because I was outplayed and that my opponent was a better player than me, not because I went second on a board with 4 negates

Who is here 4 years after and saw how worse the game became?

Yugioh Meta 18 years ago: Hand loop your opponent so they start off no cards. Yugioh Meta now: Put up a bunch of negates to stop everything your opponent does. This comment section: "Yugioh was so much more fair and interactive back when I was a kid"

It's discouraging to see players floods the board with powerful effect monsters on their first turn, they then negate everything you do. it's not even a duel anymore they are just preventing you from playing the game..

If I was playing against this irl at a locals or something, I'd scoop on the spot and go home. I paid to play in a Yugioh tournament, not watch a guy play solitaire.

Remember when special summoning was actually special?

Yugioh needs a serious rehaul. It’s too expensive to play and when you to get your $300 deck you can’t even play because anyone who still plays is probably playing the same mindless build as you.

Yes, this is EXACTLY why people quite YGO. Why would I want to invest money into a game where maybe 50% of the matches, I don't even get to play?

Honestly, Yu-Gi-Oh "died" long before the endless turn era. It started with the arrival of monsters that could negate without a sacrifice of any kind being made. Look at the original "negate" style cards like Magic Jammer. You got one use out of it and you had to discard a card. Now look at all the big "boss monsters" that can negate just because they're on the field. Duel Links is experiencing that now and I genuinely fear for its future. Duels are more about preventing your opponent from playing Yu-Gi-Oh than they are about actually combating their monsters. I get that negation is a part of the game but it got out of hand a looong time ago.

This is the natural evolution of a card game developed without a resource system, Magic doesn't have this problem because mana adds a very real limitation to the amount of crap you can vomit on a board at once.

Reject modernity. Embrace tradition.

Draw 2 is bad. But summon your deck is ok.

It's useless to deny it, all those who defend modern Yu-Gi-Oh! are only those who have spent so much money on the game that they cannot say otherwise. The game itself is indefensible today, and this video proves it.

the worst part is that this isn't just....fixable without overhauling the whole game, if you limit special summons per turn it will break too much, hardcap hand size, breaks most decks, yugioh as is, is either you do nothing and lose or you win first 2 turns. The best idea maybe would be splitting into more formats but then they'd have MULTIPLE metas to manage and they can't even do this one

In my opinion, Yu-Gi-Oh's peak phase was the 5D's era. Both players can get a good start on their first turn, and their good stuff came out mid game. That's fun to me.

Welcome to Yugioh where if you see a 3rd turn you’re really making progress

I summon Celtic Guardian! *sees opponent's field* ......in defense mode?

People like that actually hate the yugioh game, so they make these meta decks to ruin the experience for actual yugioh fans.

This is why I stopped playing Yugioh lmao Even casual friendlies at my local place have become coin flips where whoever goes first wins, unless the guy going second manages to draw their mandatory hand trap, and even then there's no guarantee they'll be able to do anything.

YuGiOh is a very well-balanced game: basically 2 players sit down together and determine the winner by tossing the coin. 50-50, so balanced! Right? XD

Remember when you couldn't get your entire deck out the first turn?

Whats the point of this game? Why not just play solitaire?

This game is not inviting for new player even if konami tries.

I like how Konami bans cards that discard cards from the opponents hand but allow cards which can accomplish the same thing by negating everything you try and do

So this guy’s turn took 4 minutes and that’s with this being an online game where it would be much easier to shuffle, search for cards, and do plenty of other stuff. Just imagine how long you would be sitting there if this was in paper.

I'm currently trying to return to Yu-Gi-Oh after about a ten year hiatus. Playing Master Duel has been quite the experience. I left not too long after Synchros were introduced. The game just seems ridiculous now. I was on the other day and had 4 duels where I either had 1 turn or never got a turn. After the last one I said out loud "How tf do people find this fun? There's no back and forth anymore. It's either you win in the first couple of turns or you don't win!" Which is disappointing tbh.

Yeah the game just isn’t fun It’s full of nothing but assholes who just spew out cards to just stop people playing the game😂 it’s just trash now

Bruh this man is summoning his whole damn deck

Coming back to this video every once in a while reminds me why I’m glad I’ve only ever played Yugioh on a casual level...

I totally agree. Modern ygo is annoying af. If your opponent goes first, he is able to combo 5 negates onto the field, end his turn and that's it. You lose. If you go first, your opponent negates everything, even your own surrender, with some stupid hand traps. I played Master Duel for over a year now and it's SO fucking frustrating. You don't even get enough free gems to compensate for all the hate you feel. Sorry for bad english, I am from Germany. Have a good day.

I'm sticking to old Yu-Gi-Oh!

Remember link were supposed to slow the game down, my ass

I miss the old days of yu gi oh. I feel like synchro was probably as far as it could've gone. Pendulums made me quit.

I legit almost threw hands with my bf when it took him ten minutes to get like 3 (extremely overpowered) monsters on his field and wiped me out on the second turn of the game. Tell me how that’s fun for either party..?

YuGiOh! Is just a glorified single player game.

I quit YGO around the time pendulum monsters were added to the game. I came back late 2018 and quickly got tired of these 10 minute turns of continuous special summons. It's ridiculous!