This Junkyard 351w Stroker Build Is Coming TOGETHER! BIG UPDATE!

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In this video we update you on the progress on our budget minded 351 Windsor stroker motor build. This is as budget and cheap as we can get! We made some adjustments enjoy!
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@lloydgreen4091 Жыл бұрын

Heck Dan, I'm 67 & You got me all geezed up on this subject. lol Givin' us Ol' Noobs some 351W lessons. Thanks So Much for Making this kind of videos for us.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching man. Got tired of Tripping over these extra parts. Mines well make them work for me!

@jafo4u508 Жыл бұрын

OH, No, you didn't with the Knight Rider music, instantly Subscribed! 😆

@UnityMotorSportsGarage Жыл бұрын

Good stuff.. I would mock up the rotating assembly to see if the stock rods will clear the cam.. top of the rod bolt area will hit the lobes.. before you balance everything... I've been down that road before! Going to have some real compression... Andy

@DWBmotorsports Жыл бұрын

Interesting that I stumbled across this video. I just built a budget 387. Eagle crank, truck rods, icon forged slugs. Comp xfi stroker cam, Victor jr alum. Heads. Ported air gap intake. 1-7/8 headers, 750 dp. Makes about 500/500 runs awesome in my fairmont wagon. I had to run oversized main bearings with that eagle crank to get a clearance that I felt comfortable with. I plan to hit mine with 100-150 shot for street shenanigans.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Nice !

@jaceyrondeau8133 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see how it turns out! Always fun to throw a bunch of stuff together and find out how everything works as an assembly. This type of build is sometimes very surprising

@paulhudgins5120 Жыл бұрын

This is my kind of budget build, can't wait to see what kind of magic can be done to those heads, and to see what you come up with the top of the motor.

@adventureswithsuperdave1290 Жыл бұрын

Let’s go man!!

@shoominati23 Жыл бұрын

I had a friend who had good results doing a turbo roller 351w with the f-303 camshaft and an 80mm precision with everything else factory pretty much. easy 9 second combo in an SN95

@projectsnprogressmike8159 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching and following you for a while I glad you putting theses videos out I’ve been trying to get my 351 up and going I started out wanting to build it my self but I lost motivation I was just about to drop my car off and take the easy way out but watching these , got me ready to tackle it

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Thx man !

@paul44235 Жыл бұрын

I love your style! Do what you can with what you have. Not everyone can afford aftermarket blocks. It does take money to make power, but spend it where it's necessary.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Yep!

@SuperJseaton Жыл бұрын

I like this engine build.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

@ogsuperflygarage Жыл бұрын

Great update Bro! Can't wait to see the finished product...

@floydmarseeii4007 Жыл бұрын

Great video!! 👍🏻😎👊🏻✌🏻 I’m wanting to do this to one of my Windsors.

@adamcartwright6220 Жыл бұрын

Awesome! I’m excited to see this build!

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Hell ya

@elementl1166 Жыл бұрын

It’s gonna be nasty - love it!

@paul44235 Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir, I've been waiting for details on the build. Best Ford, budget, foxbody channel on the Tube.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

@paul44235 Жыл бұрын

It's well deserved.

@angrygaragemechanic Жыл бұрын

Cool 😎 Love budget builds!

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Thx

@mr.yadiggacslatter4842 Жыл бұрын

Following this build!!! About to buy a 351 windsor to put in my sn95. Just need a little guidance.

@robertobetancourt7881 Жыл бұрын

Great video Dan . Thanks for all that , knowledge 🇵🇷

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Yw!

@vernerg436 Жыл бұрын

like xmas as a kid, keep it going man!

@mikeprimo389 Жыл бұрын

Oh I'm hooked.

@paul44235 Жыл бұрын

Bring it bro!

@ferdinandcuevas8457 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update and how You explained what and how You were going to build the engine. 🇺🇲🇵🇷🦊👍

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Thx for watching

@SmackeysGarage Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to seeing this build and how it does!

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Hell ya its gonna rock!

@87mustang347 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video man. Loving this content

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@cesarnavarro8227 Жыл бұрын

Excelente muy bueno, quiero ver ese monstrico 👍👍👍

@kevdaceo Жыл бұрын

Tuned in 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿😬

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Thx

@HicksHouseVideos Жыл бұрын

I can’t wait to see how this turns out, I might have to build one for the Capri

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

That would be cool

@out_foxed_gt Жыл бұрын

Awesome video I am in the middle of building a 351 myself 👊🏻

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Nice 👍

@curtismccombs2212 Жыл бұрын

I hear you can make a set of cheap aluminum china heads flow pretty good 👌

@EPstroker Жыл бұрын

Interesting build. I remember years ago when stroker cranks weren't common place. A 400 clevor was the go to small block stroker of the day........351w block, 400 ford crank machined to fit the windsor journals, and Cleveland heads. I'm sure things are much simpler today. 😄

@albertgaspar627 Жыл бұрын

what he's building is the 393 Windsor Ford offered as a crate engine, but without the .030 overbore. but what you're talking about, yeah, the stroker you made yourself was a tall deck Windsor's truck crank offset ground to a 300 I6 or 318 mopar connecting rod to make 377 cid with 350 turbo pistons. Or the 400 Clevor you mentioned, but many just hopped up the 400M with an Edelbrock intake dual plane. Now we convince folks that a cast stroker crank is stronger than an OEM cast crank. and the Foxbody led to enough good aftermarket heads the Clevor's just a memory.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

CLEVOR is not a memory for me. Its something i would build on the channel one day im sure. See sourcing those parts out is tough vs just doing the formula i am doing here with the other 387. Plus the machine work now a days cost to get that all ground and set right just woudl be mroe than the $300 spent on a cast steel crank 3.85..

@EPstroker Жыл бұрын

@@albertgaspar627 I wasn't familiar with the 300/6 rods. But I remember a Hoge podge of 318 rods, 350 chev pistons, BB chev valves and roller rocker arms etc etc. People would use what was around back in the day to make something exotic. 😂 I always just hopped up a 400. But the performer 400 intakes hit a wall at 5500 rpm.....and are done and out of breath at 6000 rpm. 😂

@EPstroker Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs yes these days it's cheaper to go your route rather than finding a good 400m crank and making it fit the W block.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

@@EPstroker Not forgotten tho. People need to know this was the way when things werent available.

@Mustang_Chris Жыл бұрын

B-31 is a little small for those cubes with Jr's. It'll run good in the midrange and idle nice. A 2.08 valve would help a lot up top. Maybe put the 2.08s in the ported heads.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

We just going with what we got on the shelf atm. See if the thing actually runs! then we will perfect it lol!

@Mustang_Chris Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs ah I see. She's gonna be a ripper.

@paul44235 Жыл бұрын

That's awesome, build what you have available. Not everyone has the budget to mail order the best of the best.

@coryman4245 Жыл бұрын

Unless you got at least a .60 overbore, a 2.08 valve will shroud the cylinder. The Windsor jr's have a 1.94 I think. That's not too shabby honestly. He'll probably make around 400hp and have a nice torque curve. That's perfect in my opinion. Definitely make more power with more camshaft thought. A 3.85 stroke will utilize more duration than 218/228 @ .50 he needs more like a 240/250 @ .50 to really take advantage of the extra stroke but you know it's all what your desired operating ranges are too.. do you really want to be screaming 4k rpm going down the highway at 65/70mph or do you want something street friendly that's going to make as much power as comfortably possible lol

@Mustang_Chris Жыл бұрын

@@coryman4245 the LS3 has a 2.165 on a 4.065 bore. 2.08 will give good velocity at lower engine speeds for cylinder filling and good drivability.

@brokentoolgarage8609 Жыл бұрын

Nice! I like the lists you added. He called those blue rockers ugly 😐

@paulbalzarano Жыл бұрын

Am I crazy or have iron headed motors always had a more evil sound to them? I'm talking like standing in front of a car watching it do a burnout or being next to one that juat won't hook. The sound that comes from the engine, not necessarily the exhaust always seemed just evil compared to aluminum headed cars. Am I just nuts or have you noticed it too?

@alltherpm Жыл бұрын

Ur crazy

@ivanracing27 Жыл бұрын

hello and what is the trick to improve the lubrication of those 351w engine ?

@mac-qg2qz Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see the hp #

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Me too.

@timbowalk Жыл бұрын

I have everything except the pistons I’m trying to stay under 10:1 compression I’m clueless other than oredering custom pistons to keep compression down unless I use different cylinder heads with bigger combustion chambers

@Mr.Safety. Жыл бұрын

I love this man! No boring out?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

No it’s based off a good stock bore and hone

@dwestinghouse Жыл бұрын

Will you need to fly cut the stock fox pistons for the cam/valve sizes?

@jacobchandler2083 Жыл бұрын

If you wanna make another one with like the f4te cam and a good intake and heads i got a truck thatll gladly test it

@W1ck3d86 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the next vid, loving the content! Any idea's on what you're going to put it in?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Yes

@W1ck3d86 Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs nice...liking the suspense, lol

@harrywalker5836 Жыл бұрын

stik clevo heads on it....id buy a cheap 460, alloy heads, inlet,w/pump, mid cam, weighs same as windsor/clevo, bigger stonger,& ford, not chev cranked..

@jaimerodriguez6374 11 ай бұрын

Tight

@lr7993 Жыл бұрын

😎

@jordynndennis4678 Жыл бұрын

what is the part number for the piston rings?

@markmccarty9793 Жыл бұрын

We're did you get you flycutter for the valve reliefs! I got everything but the crank.

@jessiefarough6508 Жыл бұрын

Currently building a 351w 393 stroker exact same way-after watching your channel I’ve learned so much! (Platform= 351w bored .040, 302 forged pistons, stock rods with 3.895 stroker crank, Yates N351 ported n polished heads-70cc, custom headers 1 7/8, 3” collector, single plane intake, 750 cFm brawler carb ) ….was just wondering what CAM you guys would run for 6200-7000 rpm street beast?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Cam I’m not sure. Custom would be nice

@harrywalker5836 Жыл бұрын

383 clevo, uses chev crank, the pistons come badly out the bottom of bore..chev crank,eagle.,smaller than ford. if you have a std crank, you can offset the journals by 2mm ish. im sure windsor was destined to be the next big block. internals are bigger than clevo.. cant kill a clevo.. a 460, with all alloy parts,weighs same as 351..so why stroke an engine.??.. as to cams,, buy a decent brand. irson,crow, .ect.

@6spd85notch Жыл бұрын

What’s up Danny I know I’m a little off subject but have you seen the white 85 gt on street racing channel. Car runs stickshift class goes pretty good. Pretty sure it has a 410 in it.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

No I have not

@TurboRanger351 Жыл бұрын

From experience, I really wish you would put a much larger camshaft in it. Cylinder pressure will be through the roof.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Won’t be bad. This is only the first one. If I build another will be different (aka cam and 72cc heads)

@johnc7431 Жыл бұрын

Hey man I love your videos I have a 302 block and a 351 thinking about doing the same budget build have you ever heard of Oregon cam grinder he ground a can for me on my 302 and it really turned out nice check them out. Like your videos keep them going

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Thx!

@jeffdiehl8394 Жыл бұрын

I just built a 351W for a buddies 83 F-150. H336 pistons, balanced stock crank & some Eagle rods - Had Ken at Oregon cams regrind a stock 5.0 roller cam into something healthy, (218/224 @.050, .530 ish lift. Windsor Sr. heads, performer intake & long tubes. used stock Chevy 7.8" pushrods! 33's/3:55's/NP435 and it runs real strong at 5000ft elevation!

@Shogoat1304 2 ай бұрын

How much did it cost to get the rotating balanced ?

@jdmonly87 Жыл бұрын

Are you planning on high compression? Usually flat top 302 pistons will give you close to 12:1. That block being decked will just make it higher

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

We already figured 11.5 with the deck. On e85 will be fine.

@jdmonly87 Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs didn't know you was using e85, I must've missed that part if it was said. When I built mine I used -3 dish pistons and it made it 11:8:1.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Ya these are -7. Ish ?

@DWBmotorsports Жыл бұрын

@@jdmonly87 how…..I just built the exact same engine and with stock bore and flat tops I’m at 10.5:1….unless you wanted that high of comp.

@orozcoracing.7450 Жыл бұрын

I like that project! a question just out of curiosity, the b-31 cam and the x303 have almost the same lift and are very similar in duration why choose the b-31?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

X cam was junk. Had a bad lobe

@cecilandrews7479 Жыл бұрын

Question with the stock 302 piston what's the compression ratio going to be with that longer stroke. Last I checked with a flat top 302 piston it was like 14 to 1

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

11.5

@robertwest3093 Жыл бұрын

Do the factory 5.0 pistons clear the stroker crank or is some clearancing involved? I love builds like this one.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

I have a playlist about all that with this engine so far.

@Go4BrokeOffroad Жыл бұрын

explorer flat tops would work for this as well, yeah?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

yes

@MyBCAM Жыл бұрын

Do you need to fly cut the factory pistons to fit the larger valves in the other heads that you are using?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Yes I would. Or at least check

@williamrose8944 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes the off the wall build can turn out to be crazy fast.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Well see !

@harrywalker5836 Жыл бұрын

460, alloy heads, flat tops, mid cam, fast,reliable. strokers suck.

@95Sn95 Жыл бұрын

How Balanced would it be if you just tossed it together, would there be noticable and or damaging vibrations?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

I did a video that showed the weights balanced and unbalanced.

@martymcwhirter9864 Жыл бұрын

Even cheaper use a 400m crank in your 351 block.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

It’s not … you have to grind too much to make it work vs $300

@americanmuscle302 Жыл бұрын

b31 may be a little small, but are u putting the windsor in the black foxbody or the silver one? and i got a silver lx just like that one only mines a hatch

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

I don’t have a silver fox. And b31 isn’t big but it’s decent for this

@danwustrack Жыл бұрын

Hell yes! Could you use stock 351W heads?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Yes

@danwustrack Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs thanks

@ernestsmith4725 Жыл бұрын

Have you cc'd the chamber on the heads without rocker studs? I'm assuming the reason you are going to use those, besides them having the larger valves, is that you're wanting it to still be pump gas friendly? I'd run the small chamber heads and cry about having to run race gas. Lol

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Probably

@FREEDOM.13 6 ай бұрын

Did you have to get the bores machine honed to be straight again for the new rings or just re-honed it yourself?

@Neomustangs 6 ай бұрын

We just honed it in my garage

@rosibalisong4403 Жыл бұрын

so, did you have to get longer pushrods since you used the foxbody pistons?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Yes pushrods from 351 and 302 aren’t same at all. Regardless of piston

@mikeclark740 Жыл бұрын

Sweet I want to see how much horsepower it makes on the dyno

@mikeclark740 Жыл бұрын

I'm just curious how much power it'll make sounds like a pretty simple build and I love that blue Ford blue that is

@302hobronco Жыл бұрын

Are you doing link style roller lifters or is that a roller block?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Roller

@willbradley6450 Жыл бұрын

What are you expecting the compression to be?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

11.4

@jamespurvis8880 Жыл бұрын

Dan, The Man with the Plan!! For us broke asses! LOL

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Lol

@mattmartin6805 Жыл бұрын

Im trying to go cheep on my 351w as well was wondering if the gt40 heads can hold up to 700 hp I got 2 sets

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Thats a lot of air to push thru those valves tbh. Maybe 700 crank..

@mattmartin6805 Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs was thinking on porting the heads as well for that more airflow was curious to see if those heads was even worth it or just sell them and buy some heads

@rodneygodin7773 Жыл бұрын

All that money in engine to put junk heads on what a joke

@midnight347 Жыл бұрын

@@rodneygodin7773 the point is he said he's going cheap so he isn't putting "all that money" into it. He said he's trying to go cheap.

@mattmartin6805 Жыл бұрын

@@rodneygodin7773 1st of all haven’t put much money into it I got 2 351w blocks for $200 together and I have already the rotating assembly for it as well going 30 over with a trade for my old 302 so haven’t spent much at all. But if you read I was wondering if it’s been done to see if it’s worth it or to sell both heads with intakes I have.

@autofox5.067 Жыл бұрын

You gonna put that windsor in that little red coupe?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

i dunno lol!

@gofastparts4u Жыл бұрын

I'm curious to see how a nearly 13:1 compression engine will run with a 218/228 camshaft. I'm assuming you're going to run it on E85 or pure alcohol?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

It won’t be 13 lol. It’ll be 11.5. And yes e85 is all I run

@gofastparts4u Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs how do you figure???

@gofastparts4u Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs So you've got a 4.00" bore, a 3.85" stroke, 2 or 2.5 cc dished pistons, assumed to be zero decked and Windsor Junior heads that are 58ccs along with a .041" head gasket that's got a 4.100" bore... You know what, you're right, it's not 13:1. It's more like 12.42:1.

@gofastparts4u Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs if you're shooting for 11.5, have someone lay those 58cc chambers out to 64cc's and you'll be golden.

@MP-pz9oe 11 ай бұрын

What to do if the block needs overboring ?

@phide01 Жыл бұрын

Where are you located?

@lamarrichardson1782 Жыл бұрын

Nice man 👍

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Thanks ✌

@jeffjohnon4223 Жыл бұрын

That crank is a straight drop in with no machining needed?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

I mean balance needs to be looked at as it would be with any stroker build.. but ya

@DWBmotorsports Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say straight drop in. I had to search in the midst of Covid for oversized main bearings on this crank in my 387 build. With stock sized bearings on mains the clearance was .0015” which is no bueno to me. It’s a common thing I guess with these Eagle cheapo cranks.

@eppyschopshop Жыл бұрын

Hey man. Seems to be alot of back and forth as far as info goes. Are you able to use factory 302 rods and pistons with a stroker crank?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

No… there’s no confusion. It’s stock 351 Rods. Stock foxbody only pistons. Stroker crank

@eppyschopshop Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs interesting. I plan on rebuilding the 302 in my 78 f100 over the winter. For 300 bucks it's kinda hard to turn down getting a stroker crank. Not necessarily shooting for giant horsepower but the extra cubes would be nice

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

@@eppyschopshop Do It. Remember there willl be money in machine work needed like decking the block maybe fly cut the pistons but its a cheap HP substitute that will make power.

@mikecardenas8328 Жыл бұрын

I go a dumb question, I want to make my 351w to 387, I get everything you show in your video, but my question is, if I want to get pistons 4.030 , this would be ok, or not, I’m not a mechanic just a fan of foxbody and I want to try it on mine, thanks in advance if I get any comments.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

For sure. It would make it a 393. Plus 30 over pistons have more options for valve clearance and dish

@mikecardenas8328 Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs cool, thanks man for the fast response, I’m working on getting pistons, and parts, but before spending money I wanted it to make sure, thank you again.

@RobertSmith-bc6bl Жыл бұрын

Are you gonna post a buildsheet when the build done

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

i am pretty detailed there in the video. Im going to do an assembly video yes.

@DWBmotorsports Жыл бұрын

If you want a build sheet for one of these I’ll send you one. Mine is currently running.

@manuelguisar9254 Жыл бұрын

What year is that 351 block?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

@tomislavzarak5233 Жыл бұрын

internal or external balance?

@DWBmotorsports Жыл бұрын

External balanced 28oz

@vrm86gt Жыл бұрын

is this going to be n/a or boosted setup?

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Both lol

@vrm86gt Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs cool, looking forward to seeing how it does!

@pimpovic2 Жыл бұрын

Would be funny if that guy's name wasn't Scotty B, and you just start pointing at random people and giving them nicknames 😁 Anyway, very curious to see how that B31 cam performs in the larger motor.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

Nah that’s his name

@pimpovic2 Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs that little chuckle after you said it might say otherwise 😂

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

@@pimpovic2 huh?

@pimpovic2 Жыл бұрын

@@Neomustangs the way you laughed sounded devious, just giving you a hard time. It's Friday, maybe I'm a little extra happy today.

@Neomustangs Жыл бұрын

@@pimpovic2 haha nah Scotty B is a cool dude. Was probably being funny during the edit

@paul44235 Жыл бұрын

Please show some carb content lol.

@user-yn1kx2mn9i 2 күн бұрын

Why in the hell are you even setting the cam on the ground let alone dragging it around on the concrete? You should know better than that I was ready to check out this build cause I’ve never heard of a 387 Stroker but seeing how you treat the cam makes me question your knowledge. You hang out around a machine shop and I guarantee someone there said get that cam off the ground now and then inspected it and probably neither of the cams was used if they seen the B cam get drug across the concrete 🤦‍♂️

@Neomustangs 2 күн бұрын

Build went together super well. Runs very well and made great power (400+wheel). Even with my concrete camshaft LOL!! Thanks for trolling and judging a build you have no clue about. You can move along now....