This keyboard has the secret to good sounds. (thock)

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In this video I build the Niz Duo 82 which is an electro capacitive keyboard. This is a bit different from your average custom keyboard.
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0:00 Intro
0:41 Unboxing
1:33 Overview/Price
2:20 Bluetooth
2:34 Back
3:00 Mounting System/Build Quality
3:20 Stabilizers
3:50 Switches
4:35 Keycaps
5:21 Internals/Modability
6:35 Software
7:03 Stabilizer Rattle
7:12 Thoughts
7:25 Final Review
9:12 Hit the Join Button Down Below
9:58 Typing Test
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@ALANatWork 3 жыл бұрын

The warp on that spacebar is crazyyyyyyy. Banana spacebar gang!

@kiko1764 3 жыл бұрын

Yesirrrr

@3ildcat 3 жыл бұрын

Whenever I hear EC switch sounds, it feels like an expensive membrane lol Nice review as always, Hipyo! FYI, I've tried Topre and NIZ EC keyboards and they were just not my taste. I don't mean they are bad :3

@HipyoTech 3 жыл бұрын

I definitely didn't like them at first! There's something about them that feels really good on my sore fingers from rock climbing, like a cloud ☁️

@blakesichel8596 3 жыл бұрын

What's your daily driver switches?

@thumbwarriordx 3 жыл бұрын

Your average mediocre rubber dome is punching even with Alps dampened tactiles in raw feel. Snappier rubber domes are just god tier over any dampened tactile. Plus these won't spring ping, THE MOST offensive sound when the rest of your keyboard is quiet.

@toasty6986 3 жыл бұрын

@@HipyoTech bruh rubber domes hurt my hands how.

@RazorIance 3 жыл бұрын

@@thumbwarriordx My Topre Realforce R2 gets spring rattle stock, had to lube them so they stuck to the PCB.

@Lucas-ro6zf 3 жыл бұрын

"I don't like yellow very much" * yellow table in shot *

@HipyoTech 3 жыл бұрын

I really don't, I almost reshot this whole video lmao

@kevin9120 3 жыл бұрын

@@HipyoTech Big late but I'm curious as to why you have a yellow table then

@pudimafterall 3 жыл бұрын

@@HipyoTech can i have your yellow table lol

@swmedianz 3 жыл бұрын

@@pudimafterall it’s just a yellow mousepad or piece of card lol

@hockeyskates2637 3 жыл бұрын

@@HipyoTech can I have you

@serene4566 3 жыл бұрын

The sound on this boards just nuts, i really like the look of this new polycarb one than their previous plastic cased ones as well :D

@Juiceboxdan72 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your open-mindedness! Folks like you are probably why so many of us moved away from Cherry MX switches. I've been looking to try something like this, thanks for the video!

@sviz 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful shots hipyo, this board does certainly intrigue me

@ogznog 3 жыл бұрын

This makes me so happy! I got really into mechanical keyboards but ended up landing on the x87 and loved it. I just got an x108 with the 45g membranes and it's even better. I'd love to see more Niz/Topre content from your channel.

@anthonyapm 2 жыл бұрын

Got my niz atom66 today and I love it. After trying a ton of mechanical keebs for programming this was the first one that immediately felt great to type on straight out the box..

@shmickbs1062 3 жыл бұрын

I always get excited when I see a Hipyo video, but then I realize it’s a premier

@HipyoTech 3 жыл бұрын

@ryanxu9983 3 жыл бұрын

What are wrong with premiers?

@your_average_cultured_dude 2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanxu9983 you have to wait for them and can't watch right away

@Keybored 3 жыл бұрын

Always love your editing skills Hipyo! Motivates me to do a better job lol. Some support your way to please the overlords!

@HipyoTech 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! I love your vids as well!!

@dhoffnun 3 жыл бұрын

I've been curious about Niz for a minute now anyway - and this one looks even more interesting. Thanks for covering it!

@funknugget6334 3 жыл бұрын

been using niz EC keyboards for a year and i love them. will never go back to cherry switches and feel the same way.

@somethingwitty4237 3 жыл бұрын

My daily has been the Niz 68 for school! Awesome video! The 82 concept is interesting

@i_am_acai 3 жыл бұрын

I naively thought "isn't MECHANICAL" meant cheap

@phionfire 3 жыл бұрын

I really like this board, waiting to see reviews of the final product

@sakuriosky1573 3 жыл бұрын

That moment when I thought i found my ‘endgame’ keeb until this video 🤣😩

@huukhangnguyen4650 3 жыл бұрын

I have one of these (the micro 82 one) and I love it so much more when I changed to a heavier dome and lubed the board. It would be much much better imo when you lube the sliders,rails and the spring underneath the rubber dome with a thin layer of 105.

@BrakkoJanus 3 жыл бұрын

I actually just bought a Niz Plum Micro 82, typing on it right now. I like it A LOT, it's really like typing on a cloud like they say. Now it's not mechanical and it does not have the same feedback, but for a translator like me who literally types all day long for work, this is a very comfortable experience.

@Numquamnonparatus320 3 жыл бұрын

You were the chosen one, you were supposed to help destroy the dome keyboards, not join them

@Incognit05 3 жыл бұрын

Although I live by mechanical, I've sworn by EC/membrane forever. I'm a nurse, and I LOVE when I get to use the keyboards that have membranes. This video is what I've needed for so long.

@hinol6936 3 жыл бұрын

wdym membranes? xD Membrane is a different form of a pcb, did you mean rubber domes?

@Atokinox 3 жыл бұрын

i also think that 75% is the best layout because its compact so you can game with it and it has all the keys that you would need

@gobiku2725 3 жыл бұрын

Yooo i can finally be on a premiere once it comes out!! Btw love u hipyo

@JazzBeDamned 3 жыл бұрын

I need a 10-hour version of voice-over Hipyo

@whosleo4868 3 жыл бұрын

hey hipyo have you tried the akko rose red switches? i would suggest making a video on them

@geoffreyyu5163 3 жыл бұрын

I really hope that it comes with variable weighting domes. Imo that's the best feature of realforce keyboard.

@Deac0n_Blues 3 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this video after I saw you in the niz discord

@refragged 3 жыл бұрын

I recently got the Niz Plum x87. I'll never use anything but EC switches from now on. It's bliss.

@casperguo7177 3 жыл бұрын

Bought a 68, redid the stabs a bit and put on some high quality keycaps. Haven’t been on r/mk for a long time now hahaha

@aidanmclamb3966 3 жыл бұрын

i like the sound of the rubber dome like EC switches. they make squish type noise that is pretty funny btu cool

@ccost 3 жыл бұрын

*board on a yellow surface* "i dont like yellow very much"

@jon1867 3 жыл бұрын

I have a niz, it feels and sounds incredible. I use a split keyboard though as my daily driver, with obnoxiously loud box jades.

@casperguo7177 3 жыл бұрын

Box jades are pretty much a 15-meter radius force shield that blocks out all living things…

@jo1dg201 3 жыл бұрын

Helped u get out of the yellow void!

@unkkit151 3 жыл бұрын

Hipyo, does a 60% (65? - fits an acrylic tofu) pcb exist that has split spacebar support, rgb per key, and rgb underglow? I know the GK64x does, anything with VIA support? Thanks man!

@raydominiqueterre7462 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! That is thocky!

@t3sIa 3 жыл бұрын

how do you do your wpm testers and where do you find them

@braykoski3880 3 жыл бұрын

is it good to use a wooden case when building a keyboard

@shadowcore94 3 жыл бұрын

Fyi the rubber is just for return, the actual actuation is done by the spring, but not via contacts but instead, you guessed it, electrocapacitively, so not full press like on a rubber dome is needed. (Thats also how the new realforce boards allow a variable actuation of 1.5mm - 3mm iirc)

@zewitshe3608 3 жыл бұрын

great video!

@franciscoaliaga9698 3 жыл бұрын

thank you josh

@juliusxli7854 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to put the switches on an other non-EC keyboard like the keychron pro?

@Lord_Mad_Dog 3 жыл бұрын

i love clear tech. prison tech aesthetic is cool to me for whatever reason. not really a topre guy though so probably wont get the board, especially since the monstargear xo has a pc version out, but it does look really nice

@szchietzmane6436 3 жыл бұрын

So it's like a individual Topre switch?

@random_birch_forest 3 жыл бұрын

The sound from that is so much better than from any MX-style board tbh

@dv3rsion_495 3 жыл бұрын

I agree spaced 75% is best of tkl and 60/65% cause it’s small and has f row and arrow keys.

@_Murky_ 3 жыл бұрын

So quiet 👌

@sirolt 3 жыл бұрын

9:12 sounds like one of those Rick and morty commericials

@fremplefishy2028 3 жыл бұрын

So is rubber dome membrane?

@flawlessed1564 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like membrane with extra steps

@habibikhader 3 жыл бұрын

Hipyo: I dont like yellow Also Hipyo: has yellow mousepad

@imfromfloridayouwontunders8315 3 жыл бұрын

I want this so bad it looks so clean would like to chuck some 9009 on this thing.

@bonkkerss 3 жыл бұрын

hear me out, how much for a custom board?

@lucasskotiniotis1360 3 жыл бұрын

What do you think would be better: 35g or 45g? I prefer light keyboards in general, is 35g too light?

@HipyoTech 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer 35g

@hammers1594 3 жыл бұрын

niz has some other 75% offerings that are a good deal imo. I used to run a really compact one before I broke it. typing this on one that has 2 fn layers, super handy for productivity

@casperguo7177 3 жыл бұрын

The built in mouse control is godly

@alexjonestheoneandonlybones 3 жыл бұрын

Can we get a hippo rock climbing video?

@benbean977 3 жыл бұрын

Im new to keyboards and wanted to build a 82 or tkl for my first board what is a good kit that is already assembled and doesent need to be saudered that is an 82 or tkl.

@benbean977 3 жыл бұрын

preferebly under 150

@lmbtcs1879 3 жыл бұрын

My abko 55g kn10 feels awsome, its uses niz 55g electro capacitive switch, its full size, macro programmable, has rgb and usb c and also adjustable actuation height. What more could you ask for???

@TheBigJoshi 3 жыл бұрын

Hot swap. Lol

@xenon2561 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBigJoshi how tf do you want hotswap on electro-capacitive switches ? Maybe think before you write your comment

@lmbtcs1879 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBigJoshi dang you right imma throw it out now

@andykxu 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBigJoshi u makin no sense rn bro there are no soldering in electro-capacitive... you can easily pop the switches out....

@TheBigJoshi 3 жыл бұрын

@xenon04 just joking, chill out 🤗 ik that that’s not possible

@DiamondPickCraft 3 жыл бұрын

Keyboard sponsorship starter kit be like, say it’s your daily driver

@HipyoTech 3 жыл бұрын

Not sponsored! Just provided the board for review

@CinceTheDay 3 жыл бұрын

I dunno but if it's rubber, it's gonna deteriorate, right?

@lw8882 3 жыл бұрын

I had a niz EC board back when they first came out and were like $169 USD instead of 250-350. The stabs on it were excellent and extremely well lubed. That's always been a thing niz has done REALLY well. EDIT: Oh ok the bluetooth module and rgb cost 100 usd that's why I thought they were expensive. Cause they are :(

@flowting5163 3 жыл бұрын

When do you think this keyboard will be availiable for the public? I am really excited to get my hands on those

@HipyoTech 3 жыл бұрын

Next few days probably

@flowting5163 3 жыл бұрын

@@HipyoTech thx

@adrianonea8468 2 жыл бұрын

do a review on Geek SK64S

@_indrid_cold_ 3 жыл бұрын

Ever hear the one-liner specialist, Stewart Francis? Well, he wants his voice back.

@Jarx246 3 жыл бұрын

Price is actually $300 for case, additional $135+ for keyboard internals, depending on which version you get

@198Immortal 3 жыл бұрын

3:25 didnt know you could open up the space bar like that :o

@GOTTHEDAWGINME 3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean open up? It's just taking the keycap off, you can do that on any board.

@198Immortal 3 жыл бұрын

@@GOTTHEDAWGINME as in, pulling the keycap off in that fashion. I always did it differently, in an inefficient way. Sorry for bad english

@GOTTHEDAWGINME 3 жыл бұрын

@@198Immortal Oh I do that too so I didn't understand

@smoloms 3 жыл бұрын

I do quite like the Niz EC boards. I know they aren’t gonna be for everyone though

@coffee1080 2 жыл бұрын

i fucking want this one

@ccxu4764 3 жыл бұрын

Big fan of most of the hardware under the epomaker umbrella. The one thing I WISH they would do is to support QMK on their non-bluetooth models. (or ZMK on their bluetooth ones) With VIA, most casual users can map the layout that cover 90% use cases. For enthusiasts, we can use the advance features like mod-tap, tap-dance, one-shot modifier, etc etc. Such a waste since most of their boards have very powerful ARM MCUs, while many $200+ QMK custom boards use low power AVR MCUs. If they support QMK, I would just get their $100 TKL and forget about custom keyboards (for work).

@PinotNoir_ 2 жыл бұрын

my first "Proper" keyboard is msi DS4200 Mecha Feel (Rubber dome) Gaming keyboard, i say proper because i only use my laptop keyboard before and it's trash.. it's definitely a huge improvement from my laptop keyboard, and the stabs is pretty good (no rattle), but i sell it and buy a mechanical keyboard and it's cheaper than those msi ds4200.... the stabs have a lot of rattle, but i fix it with holee mods and band aid mods...

@pand4man742 2 жыл бұрын

“If you don’t know what that is, you’re in the right place!” Me: “yes help”

@amizan8653 3 жыл бұрын

@8:15 is that a wallpaper? I want it

@MrRobbyvent 2 жыл бұрын

thats why I'm only for blue clicky mechanical switches. No compromise!

@Donbros 3 жыл бұрын

Hey that was shameless plug for BUY YOUR FRIENDS XD

@jackplummer161 3 жыл бұрын

We've come full circle...

@Pelle.frederiks 3 жыл бұрын

Vote hipyo tech for best and most calming voice

@tinypickle 3 жыл бұрын

What's the difference between this and the niz plum 84? Is it just the weight?

@kepstin 3 жыл бұрын

The Duo 82 is a group buy version of the NiZ Micro 82 with a special case. The key switches, PCB, etc. are identical. (I think they are also selling the case alone so people who already have a Micro 82 can move it into the new case.) The NiZ Micro 84 has a different layout on the bottom row, with 2 more keys added, including a second Fn key for additional layers. The 82-key version uses a standard size spacebar that's compatible with more third party keycap sets. The 84 key version uses an odd size short spacebar.

@tinypickle 3 жыл бұрын

@@kepstin oh sweet. any ideas when the GB is running or any other details? I always liked how topre felt but was sad that it lacked any of the modern features (programmability, detachable usb-c cable, incompatibility with MX keycaps, etc.) so this is potentially something really cool

@kepstin 3 жыл бұрын

@@tinypickle All the GB details are in the NiZ discord, they have a link to join it on their site www.nizkeyboard.com/ I believe plans are for the GB for the Duo 82 to open fairly soon? They're currently doing fulfillment for their previous GB, the Atom68 v2.

@sleepyartsstudent874 3 жыл бұрын

EC boards are incomplete without the insanely tactile aftermarket domes.

@mochibox1027 3 жыл бұрын

What is the better plate aluminium or stainless steel

@screws9652 3 жыл бұрын

alu

@thejusmar 3 жыл бұрын

Basically it's the Realforce RGB but in a smaller format

@thomaschan3625 2 жыл бұрын

So it’s membrane?

@SofaKingAwesome23 3 жыл бұрын

Did you guys know that Hipyo Tech rock climbs

@YuzukuKudamonoCH 2 жыл бұрын

Hipyo stuck in a yellow room... T H E B A C K R O O M S ? ? ? ?

@AlienEnjoyer 3 жыл бұрын

60% is better than 75. My reasonings: 1. what do you really do anymore with arrow keys where they can't bothered to be bound on a 2nd layer gk61 style? 2. WAY easier to find WAY more variety of keycap sets :) only downside to this is you need to memorize your 2nd layer. 3. less space. even though it's just one row, that'd still cut a lot of mouse room out of really tight setups like mine. 4. you don't have to worry about hitting the wrong keys potentially like with some 75% boards out there. (some have some really confusing layouts, dunno what that's about) this has been my hot take :D

@kira64xyz 3 жыл бұрын

i own multiple custom mechs, yet i still prefer my old thinkpads membrane keyboard over all of them

@fridaynight9405 3 жыл бұрын

Niz masterrace

@RitzyBusiness 3 жыл бұрын

Wish it were easier to these higher end rubber domes like topre, but it's way too expensive. That said a good tactile rubber domes beats mushy ones anyday. Like my 8bitdo controller has some crunchy rubber domes that destroy the dualsense.

@christophergreer6705 3 жыл бұрын

reject clack, return to membrane

@Hionimi 3 жыл бұрын

So... It's Topre, but with a fixed mat instead of individual domes?

@HipyoTech 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah basically

@pilfered1685 3 жыл бұрын

And more expensive.

@Snug_GodLovesYou 2 жыл бұрын

When u accidentally do a perfect Justin Roiland impression...

@coolsurfer4903 3 жыл бұрын

Hipyo you climb what difficulty i climb v8s

@HipyoTech 3 жыл бұрын

@volly910 3 жыл бұрын

I might get it but I’m not used to non tactical switches

@rherbm 3 жыл бұрын

ec / topre are tactile.

@mjghsh 3 жыл бұрын

80% is the best size, it has all the things of a 75% but it doesnt squish everything and require special keycaps for the shift key

@TwskiTV 2 жыл бұрын

I like the keys squished together so I can reach the arrow keys and home/end with my pinkie even leaving the home row. The non standard LShift is true, but most sets are incluiding those because of the recent rise in popularity of 65% and 75%

@colinhendry6116 3 жыл бұрын

chyrosan22 has an awesome video about what is a mechanical keyboard, and honestly elctro-capacitive switches are just as mechanical as mx switches

@hinol6936 3 жыл бұрын

the only non mechanical keyboards are the touchscreens or (weird) laser keyboards - and other similar ones. I dont think anyone will debate on this

@franciscoespi820 3 жыл бұрын

oh f*ck, my keeb just got humiliated

@TheAcesShow 3 жыл бұрын

Having both, Niz EC is a lot nicer than Topre Silent, the sound and the feel are just way better.

@keagan5379 3 жыл бұрын

Lowkey prefer these topre clones over the real thing lol

@AugustBooth 3 жыл бұрын

pun intended?

@keagan5379 3 жыл бұрын

@@AugustBooth lol not at all

@layneramirezz1402 3 жыл бұрын

Question, what is the subscriber goal that you wanna hit in your KZfaq career

@HipyoTech 3 жыл бұрын

1m and I can die happy

@kenonoffee 3 жыл бұрын

the fact this is only a prototype

@crocobye 3 жыл бұрын

Tbh I used a kind of rubber dome keyboard for a year and I still have it but don't use it anymore since it's full sized and don't really like it anymore, I liked the keyboard that you reviewed and I would love to try sometime a high end rubber dome keyboard just to see how it feels compared to a cheap one. Dream Cheated in Minecraft?

@JuniorCasipe2424 3 жыл бұрын

Whos dream?

@crocobye 3 жыл бұрын

@@JuniorCasipe2424 a minecraft youtuber

@JuniorCasipe2424 3 жыл бұрын

@@crocobye that?

@crocobye 3 жыл бұрын

@@JuniorCasipe2424 that people say he cheated in minecraft

@JuniorCasipe2424 3 жыл бұрын

@@crocobye what does he play

@r.5813 2 жыл бұрын

And there we have it, folks: the best sounding keyboards are $20 domes.

@MrTheNickolas 2 жыл бұрын

sorry dude, I just can't do rubber domes/membranes. I'm only commenting because I just got my silver GMMK Pro with AquaKings 68g and the Idobao MA cat keycaps, and I just really wanna hear it. ;alksdjf;alskdjf It sounds amazing btw, but the left shift can stick if bottomed out too hard. (can't figure out why. ideas?)