To kill Lux ~6:00 mark he needed to overlap his crowd control better and weave in more auto attacks during the crowd control duration. It doesn't look like he autos in-between his root and his ultimate's stun and the root was only half done when he used his ult. Learning how to overlap crowd control to get the most bang for your buck is an important tool.

I like that this student is a normal dude too. He's not sitting there interrupting you over and over again to give shitty excuses or to argue. Very refreshing, great content Neace!

Thanks for the coaching! I appreciate it so much

Let's talk about the Janna drag steal at 5:16 love to see it.

Damn the first five minutes of farming was really satisfying to watch. He only missed 7 creeps in the first 5 minutes. He hit 85% of his first back CS and had reliable gold to play with. I wish more clients practiced this before they came to coaching.

His camera control seems already way better than most people in silver/gold

17:18 that was super impressive. Probably 95% of players would have left the brush there, but he stays in cover and sure enough, his erstwhile attacker decides he's not there and leaves. Way to stay cool under fire.

5:40 The layering of cc was definitely off as the student R'd before the W root was finished. More importatly, though, if he had led with Q into R after the root instead of ulting first, the Q likely would have been off CD at the very end to snipe the kill post Lux flash. Also the layering of the cc wasted the slow from Q as I'm pretty sure it was cast right after R.

The best thing ever is when neace is genuinely impressed, so awesome to see. And his confidence must be through the roof after this!

Great video! I actually learned a lot of this video. Do not look at enemy items, if your team already have a lot of ad/ap, rush for penetration. And also, depending on the pick, you must either play the game slow or force fights. Thanks for the video, Neace!

love watching Neace every morning! its my new good mythical morning!

1722: The little chuckle xD so relatable. It really did feel like that.

rly good focus on ur end neace, great coaching.

Use Q sooner and hold W till after R ends. This way he could have used 1 more Q and Lux would take much longer to get under her tower

if i had teammates like this the chemistry would be so good. i always think "wat would neace tell me to do right now" and play the macro. still hard stuck because of my tilted mental tho

@5:17 no one noticed the BLIND janna steal on Drake... amazing!!

Walk towards her tower as she's stunned/rooted to prevent her from escaping as easily. Continue auto attacking and weaving in Q's as they go off cooldown

Hey NEACE ! I have a question... in this scenario instead of lux if it was a champ with energy instead of mana how can we manage the "backs" ? Thanks and love ur videos!

Weave more between the sides of minion waves during Q cd to make it easier to dodge poke and if Lux uses E it's only hitting a small amount of minions compared to the entire wave.

"void next" **INCOMING SPIRIT VISAGES RED ALERT**

@neace any chance you could link me full live VOD? I was looking for it on FB, unfortunately in the last 24 weeks, there was just one lissandra live on facebook. Sadge

i was thinking other than the abilities perspective of use combo, more like when he uses liss dash(which is e?) since his dash reaches anyways he couldve waited in the brush for the potential that there wasnt any vision instead of showing and telling self and i think it mightved ended differently cause if i recall correctly it seemed that when liss appeared on mid she walked towards the center of lane and more away from the e? it also could provide a element of surprise vs just tellign on urself and she mightve reacted a bit late with flash barrier?

15:06 should have been an IMMEDIATE Stopwatch use since Summoner Spells were down and the student had a bounty of his own to protect. Would have easily outplayed Aatrox there.

Quick question, A lot of my friends and people tell me if you’re the hard carry you shouldn’t be building things like anti heal. Is this always the case though? Or in situations like this into a Kayn and aatrox you kind of need it yourself anyways? Thanks

Really wish Neace would add a logo in corner of the thumbnail for he role the video is focusing on. Would make it easier to find videos based on learning goals. Still love it all the same

the Zack screen and then the lasandra?! That's exactly when I started playing too!!

This dudes awesome. He actually listens

In a lot of the later team fights I think the student could stand to be more decisive throwing R. He doesn’t recognize when he’s in a position to cc lock the kayn or aatrox out of drain tanking fast enough. Maybe needs a bit stronger understanding of when they’re looking to use big CDs to heal and he’s in a position to preempt it

The way he gets the kill is by not overlapping R stun with W root, instead going for an AA while the W is still in effect. After that you can micro other stuff like walking towards her tower in between spells to maybe squeeze in one more auto even.

Hey neace i am a month late but i have a question regarding the gameplay? Wouldn't it be better if he stacked seeker's armguard before he builds zhonias? Because i always try to fully max it before i build zhonias to get that bonus armor

Its crazy how good someone can be when they listen to the coach they payed for. This is the the reality of neace coaching.

free coaching man.. literally thanks for these videos

5:18 Janna steals drag with q lol, how did they not comment on that 😂😂😂

5:43 either instantly ult into q/w ignite , or ignite after barrier pops. otherwise flash after his play was done for second auto

You can tell Neace was having fun

This game was intense!!

Really good for a silver! Good camera control and listened well. Zhonya needed work, that comes with using the item more

If he ignites immediately, he gets more ignite ticks before lux can hit barrier

I’m still in silver and it’s weird because I feel like he exhibits what’s typical in a lot of my games. I assume he is NA and like Neace has said NA mechanics are typically good but just not sure what to do in certain situations. I feel like if Neace is able to help him learn the thought processes that need to take place mid and late game he will rise quickly!

If he hold ignite after lux barriers he kills her, also if he q right away he would have second one to finish her - he would walk up behind minion and q instead last auto attack

After he e'd in he needed to q + quto, then ult, which would give his q long enough to come off cd again and extend his combo

Yeah it's a nightmare scenario. It's like having an aggressive dinosaur captured but the jail it's about to be teared apart. Because it's a fucking dinosaur. So you kinda wonder do I sit here and try to capture him again, but how? Or do I try to run away before it shreds me. If it doesn't die, it's literally your turn to move and lose.

hey i saw in one of your videos you using something called macro mentor and i cant find it anywhere. where can i download it?

5:40 If he'd come into lane on her side of the wall instead of through river, he'd have had more time to auto first, w to root, q and more autos, then followed up with the ult. He might have even been able to save the e to chase if he needed to. He layered up the root times of the w and the ult and couldnt hold her as long

To be simplistic auto more during the w root and when it’s over then ult since it’s a point and click

At 5:45 he opens his combo with W>Delay>R>Q>Ignite. He held his Q and R for quite a bit before using it (at least a full second), maybe he was trying to weave in auto attacks. If he had opened the combo with an INSTANT R>Q>Ignite, it would have prevented lux from using her Q and since R stuns instead of roots, he could reposition to W right before/after lux's inevitable flash. By using Q earlier, it would have likely been up for another cast at the end of his combo if he spreads his CC out just a little more efficiently. The only thing that prevented him from getting the kill was that he took lux's Q to the face when he could have started his combo with R and not been rooted. Lux's barrier and flash wouldn't have mattered if he had been able to reposition.

Also ulting yourself into zhonyas can be very powerful in team fights.

Idk if u can barrier if she Rd first then ignite. That and he could of orb walked forward more during his R on the all in .he just left a small gap in his combo on the first possible kill.

that janna steal lmfaooooooooo

u know you swagging when neace dont shout

BIG TIP THIS GAME!!!! IF YOUR WHOLE TEAM IS IN BASE MID-LATE GAME JUST GO BACK AND SYNC UP WITH THE TEAM

5:15 BRO THAT JANNA REALLY STOLE IT WITH TORNADO

Layer the cc. For liss its E in, Q, auto,ignite, R, auto (orb walk), auto, auto, another q if its back in time

there was 1 cs under tower on that first kill attempt so since he didnt have turret agro, he coulve walked in under tower after lux untill the shield dropped and then auto her for the kill with the ignite ticking as the 1 cs couldve tanked 1 more tower hit.

To kill at around 630~ go E R auto q w auto Ignite somewhere, it doesn't have a cast time so it really doesn't matter when. Ideally after her barrier, though. TLDR: Layer cc better and weave autos

her throw shield baton ability

This dude Is Better than the lissandras I usually meet in D2/D1. If you read this, Just onetrick the champ. You'll climb.

Glad to see another lissandra main trying to get out of silver. Good job bro!

You can AA between W and R if timed.

Id invite this guy back for a free coaching oncw in a while. Truly promising

6:00 - after E should start with Q and chain cc her with W and R so our Q is back up. During cc we can even AA her one or two times before our Q is up.

If he just waited half a second to walk in range of his e, that extra damage would’ve been lethal.

5:30 he either could’ve ignited earlier during the great burst, she probably wouldn’t have time to react to all the abilities pressed at the same time and an ignite 0,5 or 1 sec earlier was enough to kill her if she didn’t instant barrier.

Igniting after barrier pops would've been a safer better. If I'm wrong, I believe the answer would be the opposite of igniting early?

missed auto but i dont think it mattered, could start with q and cc layer properly so q is back up or ing when barrier runs out

Dragon steal by Janna lmaooo 5:15

@neace what should i do if i want u to coach me

5:43 "Lissandra" is an anagram of "Sir Sandal"

Neace, 14:09 , "it's pretty easy to get out of this". Me, watching: Uhm.... UHMMM.... 14:21: They actually played it well too Me: Bro my heart can barely withstand this

league plays itself practically

delaying the ult by abit so he gets a longer cc chain, he's not bad definitely for silver just not confident in his play. Just a player who needs time to limit test and figure out stuff

Damn this coaching video is way too good

5:40 no aa's at all, only 1 during combo: he did E+W+AA+R+ignite+Q. Could do E+AA+Q+AA(q aa reset for electro)+W(lux is 100% in range, cause she stops to cast root+slowed)+ingnite+AA+AA+R+AA+AA+Q to the back if she still survives (this is how I would've played it, yes ignite into barrier, most likely like the guy did, but still, I'm pretty sure that would've killed).. Run theory in practice tool- ye should be a kill around 1200-1378 damage max depending on rune choice and execution ofc, higher with "scorch", but "transcendence" is fine too, just need to move a bit in-between "last" 4 aa's and R as u want to hug her after root on you expires. (lux has around 942 hp and 40 mr)

He could have held his ultimate for a bit longer so he could get his q back up when his ultimate finish

Lux doesn’t heal, but the damage from ignite was absorbed by barrier. He could have killer her by holding ignite until barrier came down, or on the tail end of it.

To answer te question on the vid, igniting after barrier time ends.

Ult into auto Q W ignite would've killed. Ignite after she barriers, not before because that extra burn damage would burn off a little of her shield at the end & kept burning her, rather than burning her a little and then the rest of the burn going towards the shield.

this is what happens when students actually listen instead of questioning everything or hesitating! to be fair though, i'd probably hesitate a lot too.

i was screaming XD please USE YOUR ZONYAH XD ahahahha the whole game item never been used xD

If he held ignite and waited for barrier, he could've followed under their turret with the minion aggro for the ignite + auto kill

I figured out why we all move so weird. Lux was and still is a Staple of the Low elo champ pool in 2 of the 3 lanes. Mind Blown

He gets the kill if he holds ignite and plops it on her as she walks away as barrier drops

ignite later ofc, let the barrier tick down a bit

He needed to wait to use his ultimate. He can chain CC his W and ULT to get more damage off.

He cancelled 2 autos, don't think they would matter anyways because barrier would just eat it. He also used w before r+q combo instead of r+q+auto+w+auto, would be mutch smoother and maybe get more damage trough barrier so ignite tick kills her, not sure if it kis but certainly gets you that auto that he cancelled earlier + it makes it so he can walk infront of her between basics while she is cced so he could probably get another auto off without flash. But at that point flash auto would be still good because it gets his lane ahead and he is neutral with her sums.

After W first auto, then Q into R -> auto again then Q + ignite should do the job.

5:40 cc layer was a bit off but also just simply walking a bit closer to tower while combos were layered to get in more autos

ignite before barrier to lower barrier shield?

At 5:50 he should have walked up with the minion instead of autoing, armor creep takes 2 tower shots and since he has boots it allows him to use his Q and walk away

I am not familiar with the details of 50% of the champions' kits in league, but from the 8 years of moba experience i have elsewhere and knowing lux kit quite well, its obvious that she is looking to Q immediately when shes trying to get away. There's no reason to not anticipate that response and side step left or right. That would have made that kill almost trivial getting to auto her even one more time. Probably could get 2 autos on her depending on how long the cc lasts relative to the atk spd on this champ

What's the point of stopwatch if you never gonna use itt

My knowledge of League and rotations have improved so much after I started watching Neace and one other dude. If you wanna learn adc I would suggest playing Aphelios in norms. You are forced to perfect your cs and positioning or you're useless. Best champ to learn the role. Edit: the other guy is coach blaker

He could have kept pushing up with that minion for the last AA needed and ate 1 or 2 tower shots getting out

idk if you check this comment , but when lissandra is bursting lux she obviously will barrier , he either should have ignited FIRST thing , which i dont recommend , or wait untik she uses barrier then ignite cause ignite outlast# barrier or his usage of ignite made her tank 70% of it while it usually wouldve only blocked 40% 50% of it , id say its his ignite usage , shouldve either ignited FIRST or LAST

5:45 couldn't have killed there without flash unless e hit, really impressed with the instant and repeated autos

I don't play Lissandra but if Neace told me to force the fight I would R + Ignite the second I got in range then follow up with the rest of her kit.

this is what i have to deal with every game. Teams just inting over and over, actually uncarryable games

5:45 would kill with Auto Attack cancels

he had the opportunity to auto during the root before using his ult stun and didnt

5:50 I would've start with ult and take a step thourds his tower for the aa range in case I need it , even if I would've taken 2 tower hits.