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Bro there are so many good unique rings what are you even talking about

​@@NessNT The point is, the raw power, defensively or offensively that you get from these competing amulets or body armours, is more diversified and interesting than what the other gear slots provide. I used rings as an example. Rarely will a unique ring be build defining, like a unique chest or unique amulet will. I didn't say there weren't any good unique rings.

Yeah boths slots, especially amulet are so crazy strong right now that theirs no reason to ever slot a rare amulet, even a mirror tier one. It kinda feels like its against their whole balance philosophy.

There are indeed a lot of interesting body armours and amulets. I really enjoy the defensive nature of these new amulets though like eternal damnation and now defiance of destiny

@@NessNT I mean sure you just have to pray your Ventors gamble perfectly rolls.

Bingo thats the main issue. The amulet is the most competitive slot for DPS other than chest

It does of course depend on damage of hits, but for that example(with a 35% amulet), if the hits always deal 2500 damage, the character would never die if they had 7144 life > even at 1/7144 they would recover 2500 life before taking the hit damage(7143*0.35), so every hit would be survived with 1hp remaining

I didn't say that life was being reserved, I just said with PB active, so that maths is correct

hit by *enemy*

Ah well, cheers

Nice mention! Would be damn interesting to see a build like this

It says enemy so sacrifice wont proc it. However, this works nicely with dissolution of the flesh + eternal youth

@@Tom-zc1ot Oh I know it won't proc it. But it's still an insane amount of life recovery when you bring yourself low from sacrifice.

@@Tom-zc1ot This amulet actually has anti-synergy with Dissolution of the Flesh. The amulet specifies that it heals a percentage of whatever your *unreserved* missing life is, but DotF changes the way you take damage to life by making it reserve life instead. Essentially, because you're taking damage in the form of reserving life, this amulet does nothing because you do not have unreserved life.

even poision from tattoos + corrupted jewel or flask ist easy to get, let's be honest here.

@@gachalifecounts yeah it is not the biggest issue in the world.

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It will only work betwen casts since If you get hit middle cast you Will have like 10 unreserved life and Will die nway

Blood Sacrament runs desolation of flesh. Recovery is useless for them.

Unfortunately not as gaining life doesn't benefit at all when using Dissolution since any damage causes life reservation and you're able to reserve the life that you don't actually have

@@dreamcore_gg makes sense, thanks mate.

blocks count as hits so yes. Glancing blows would be very strong here too.

It would indeed proc on block

This is like recoup but instant. They relate in the same way leech and life gain on hit do

It's instant recovery, so modifiers to increased recovery rate won't apply

This I don't know - I'd assume no with no mention on the modifier but it requires testing

@@dreamcore_gg Imho if it doesn't have a cool down, it's literally 'broken' and it'll be nerfed for sure (if / when it goes core). But I'm sooo looking forward to trying it out, ty for showcasing it! 👍

Unfortunately not, since it's instant recovery

If you reserve life, that life cannot be accounted for as 'missing unreserved life', therefore, if you reserved your top half(50%) of life, you'd have no missing unreserved life while at the maximum recoverable threshold, so it would make a huge difference to the amount of life that the amulet could recover when it procs.

It depends on what you mean by how it stacks? Both modifiers will be applied if they are relevant. Fe. a character has some missing unreserved life > takes a hit > defiance modifier recovers life before the hit deals damage based on missing unreserved life > hit deals damage and stuns the character > bloodnotch recovery takes place after the damage is dealt

@@dreamcore_gg Yes, that is exactly what i meant. Does that mean that 58% bloodnotch and 42% Defiance can kinda minimize chance of dying from hits, except from one-shots?

@@Olden2610 They actually don't really synergize at all together, or rather they don't patch up the weaknesses of either modifier - the bloodnotch jewel is great for recovering from any hits that wouldn't kill you, and presumably if you were using bloodnotch(with PB), unless damage over time has lowered your life so that you have missing unreserved life, any hit would be immediately recovered as long as it stunned you. Whereas defiance of destiny is only useful when you have any missing unreserved life, which is going to be a limited amount of time on a bloodnotch build(as I mentioned above, unless damage over time is a big problem, at which point they may have use together, but still requires being hit)

i heard that if you drink "forbidden taste" by "drink upon taking a savage hit" it can resurrect you from a hit that "killed" you, because it recovers life on the same tick (so it's net positive), wouldn't that mean that doubling down on these two would make you twice as durable (because you are technically always on max life, so even an overkill wouldn't really onetap you)?

If this was coded the same way as Flamewood, the hiltless sword won't work to proc its effect. Other reflect sources I'm unsure about

This amulet alone can never make you reach full life if you're below full life, since it can recover a maximum of 42% of the missing unreserved life before the hit. However, if you found a way to reach full life using this modifier and other recovery sources, modifiers that apply on full life would indeed work after the recovery takes place for the actual damage of the hit

Unfortunately not as it's instant recovery(not affected by recovery rate modifiers)

The belt is good, but unfortunately not additive with phys taken as modifiers, as one converts an enemy damage type and the other makes the character take damage type as another type. However, you are correct that the portion of phys damage converted to fire on the enemy from the belt modifier can then be taken as another type via a modifier on another gear piece.

You could yeah, SoB was changed this patch though - it no longer provides less damage taken, and instead now provides additional physical damage reduction(2% per 3% leech)

No, this is like glancing blows for Evasion

no, the range is 25-35%, which goes up to 42% with life catalysts.

This is just the poe.db render for the item template, the base roll is 25-35%, so with 35% and 20% fertile catalyst quality, it goes up to 42%

It wouldn't interact, as the modifier requires life to be missing(and unreserved) to grant any recovery

@@dreamcore_gg thought so, would have been a way to strong overlap of mechanics if they interacted in the other way

I don't have it :)

@@dreamcore_gg fair point LOL

The numbers used in the video are just an example, it's hard to say what map mods, monster mods etc. any one player has in their speciifc instance, but the fire skeleton mages deal insane base damage before modifiers, which is why people often die to them because they roll global map modifiers/altars and don't realize how much damage a single hit from these skeletons now deal. You can find the skeletons here, there are maybe 5 or 6 different variations: poedb.tw/us/Brittle_Arsonist , poedb.tw/us/Flame_Harbinger , poedb.tw/us/Flame_Bishop , poedb.tw/us/Incinerated_Mage - they all use the same ability and by the looks of it, have the same base scaling, but some also have extra projectiles by default. You can imagine some map modifiers and altars later, and 2-3 of these projectiles will kill the large majority of average builds. About the point of made up numbers, 'real' numbers would be made up numbers because we're talking about maps, not instanced, non-modified content. Maps have way too many variables to account for, that the chance that these monsters deal the same end damage in any two maps are very low.

@@dreamcore_gg Right, it's like when you're in pob and you measure your ehp... and you figure this scenario where map mods never touch any of your defense layers. Like you never run a map with reduced effects of your auras. You'll never run a map mod that remove armor and block. You will make sure to never touch those altars that remove 3000 armor and 3000 evasion. On either side, the damage they deal and your effective HP against this damage is highly variable. It's not that anything is made up. Lately for example, I was asking on reddit how you reach 90% phys damage reduction with zero armor. I was pleasantly surprised at the many ways you can do that. Some things I never did think of doing, like having warcry buff effect scale your phys damage reduction on enduring cry from 2 to 3% per endurance charge (7% total per). This was in the topic regarding trauma support where you'd want 90% phys damage reduction regardless of your armor to push stacking to the max. Every time you think you know how to do something, you find out there are many more ways.